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first and goal. it's murray, touchdown raiders! a completely different team in the second half. oakland has turned the tanls. >> dan: the athleticism of the offensive line, gabe jackson, the third round pick, getting out in front here. 335 pounds. watch number 66, right side of the screen, going to lead the way as he takes brown out of the picture. >> ian: murray with double-digit touchdowns this season, nird raider to do it. marcus allen also. touchdown number 10 from octavius murray. the raiders go for two trying to make this a 14-point lead.
>> ian: for those of you expecting to see "60ments" you're watching the nfl on cbs, the game between the buffalo bills and oakland raiders. ian eagle, dan fouts, evan washburn. raiders lead 38-24. 60 minutes will be seen in its entirety immediately after this game, except on the west coast. 29 straight points for the oakland raiders. through the back of the end
zone, over the head of tate. and the bills have it at the 25. >> dan: couple of key blocks on the touchdown run. this is the target. takes him out, then from his guard spot, comes dave jackson, right here, 1-2 punch right there. the standup touchdown run for murray. >> ian: del rio and carr sharing a moment. del rio is smart, great decisionmaker, he studies. out there with the ball, natural leader. catch by mccoy. stumbles down at the 30 yard line. in on the stop. >> dan: no choice but to get to the line of scrimmage now. two time-outs remaining.
>> ian: juan miller. carr, seconds to it goodwin, flag thrown at the 25. >> dan: offsides against the raiders lining up in the neutral zone. irvin looked like he got a quick start. >> referee: offsides, defense number 51, five-yard penalty, repeat second down. >> dan: irvin a sack in the first half. quick start here across the line. just enough, the flag. mack doesn't have a sack in the game but he did cause that interception, last possession for buffalo. >> ian: off the offensive line.
second and one, running play, mccoy. muscled down right at the 35. is it good enough for the first down? nfl today update, j.b.? >> back and forth in san diego. >> jameis winston, going to find the back of the end zone, 12 yards, two-point conversion. bucks stored 11 separate points, they lead 28-21 over the chargers. >> a white knuckler. back to ian eagle. >> ian: mccoy out of bounds. former super bowl mvp with the seattle seahawks makes the play along the sideline. six-yard pickup. big reason why smith is in oakland and bruce irvin is in oakland is the relationship they formed with ken norton jr. on the coaching staff in seattle. taylor with the toss to goodwin.
giving up the yardage underneath. >> dan: with ken norton being a former linebacker, with a bunch of super bowl rings, the linebackers speak the same language and the terminology ken norton sr., with irvin and smith. >> ian: three super bowls for norton, three pro bowls in his career as well. 6 1/2 to play, taylor, not going to get far. autry, there to make sure that taylor didn't get extra yards. it's going to be a sack for the oakland d. >> dan: familiar sight, too often for buffalo bill fans, watching taylor go back to pass and not finding anybody initially. relying on the legs to pick up the yardage. >> ian: the last win buffalo had in oakland was 1966.
to the sideline, goodwin with the clean catch on the juggle. he held on to the 40 yard line and the first down for buffalo. 12 yards through the air. 5:52 to play in the fourth. the bills are down two touchdowns. >> dan: right in front of the official, apparently deemed it to be a good catch. >> ian: 11 games in nfl history. off the hands of o'leary. did turn the ball over when kaleel mack got to tyrod taylor. ball got hung up in the air and picked off by nate allen for his first interception of the season. and the raiders turned it into eight points to extend the lead to 14. checked up as a receiver.
second and ten for buffalo. 5:42 remaining in the fourth. taylor, tyrod taylor lost his footing. give him a gain of nine. first down. leading rusher among quarterbacks in the nfl this season. >> dan: he was thinking about going out of bounds, when he cut upfield he lost his footing, came up about a half yard short on first down. >> ian: it was down under five minutes. third and less than a yard. taylor, reggie bush. first down for buffalo, three yards on the carry. under five minutes to play, now. >> dan: a craw play for reggie -- a draw play. veteran that bush is, knows that he needs a yard there.
lowers his helmet and gets it. >> ian: buffalo bills will have cleveland at home, miami. three straight home games for buffalo before they wrap up the season. first down, hits the xwro under, toof for sammy watkins. watt kin separation and frustrated as he makes his way back to the mudd huddle. >> dan: the clock stops with that incomplete pass. the bills taking a lot of time between plays. gets things ironed out. >> ian: taylor is having problems with his accuracy, 16 of 30. 161 yards and the pick. 9 of 10 to open up. second and ten for buffalo. initially, nearly got it.
tough throw by taylor. did not bring it in. special from autry and ward. >> dan: only has one catch today, 22 yards to not hand that will shot down the sidelines. >> ian: the bills have to have seven points here. four-down territory, third and ten. 4:11 to play. from the 28 of oakland. flag down. and they're not going to give him the free play. nick o'leary on the receiving end of this penalty against the bills. penalties today, six -- >> referee: prior to the snap, false start, offense number 15,
five-yard penalty, still third down. >> ian: brandon tate. that will be penalty number seven against buffalo. >> dan: seems like it's three or four times they have had a penalty on third and long to make it third and longer. >> ian: happened to the wide receiver. >> dan: you can't hear the snap count but you look at the ball. when the ball moves, you move. >> ian: third and 15 for buffalo. taylor, steps up. dutchs it off. -- dumps it off. mccoy, brought down inside the 20. >> dan: that looked like it was going in to the buffalo bench. >> ian: 17-yard -- look at this one. one hand. >> dan: that's beckhamesque.
keeps it in his one hand. >> ian: a loaf of bread. mccoy, to the sideline, out of bounds for buffalo. 3:34 to play in the fourth. raiders lead by 14. taylor feeling the pressure, oh, the ball is knocked away, kaleel mack! a one-man wrecking crew on defense. he's everywhere. >> dan: just like last week, he gets a strip sack and a fumble recovery. working against jordan mills, takes the inside route, knocks the ball out of taylor's hands, and falls on the ball. just lands right on top of mack. a football hat trick. one for the sack, one for the fumble force, and one for the recovery. unbelievable.
>> ian: tyrod taylor calls him a game wrecking. the afc defensive player of the month in november, and there could be a larger award on the horizon for young kaleel mack who played his college football at buffalo. university of buffalo, 16 career record. handoff to murray, dropped for lawson, defensively, two-yard pickup for murray. for kaleel mack he's in double digits once again in sacks. 16 last year, he's got ten this year, move him all over the field. rex ryan said it, we asked him how would you describe him. he said he's awesome. >> dan: that word gets tossed around a lot. but he is awesome.
in the fourth quarter, basically ends the game for buffalo. >> ian: brought down shy of the 30 yard line. time-out called with 2:31 to play. and a four-yard pickup. coming up tonight on cbs, it all begins with 60 minutes and the speaker of the house, paul ryan. followed by ncis los angeles, and mcguyver. tonight only on cbs. third and four for the raiders. >> dan: jordan mills the right tackle for the bills, doing a pretty good job throughout the afternoon keeping mack away from taylor. you just got the feeling that at some point he was going to get his fact for the day.
seven straight games with sacks for mack. >> ian: and the xwils were 4-0 -- bills were 4-0 when shady mccoy went for four or more on the ground. he has 130 today, that will be the first blemish when mccoy hits the century mark. bills will drop to 6-6. two give-aways for a team that only handed it over six times in 11 games. 2:31 remaining. murray comes up short of the first down. or did he? time-out, buffalo calls it, preston brown on the stop. and it will be fourth down for oakland.
marquette king comes on. >> dan: and what a weapon king has been. net average is almost 43 yards a punt. >> ian: buffalo bills trying to end the longest postseason drought currently in the nfl. last appearance, you have to go back to 1999. music city miracle. bills remain in the conversation after back-to-back victoryies. buffalo, only had 2:27 left to work with, down by two touchdowns. they'll get the football back. marquette king to punt it. flag down.
into the end zone from king. and marquette king may have gotten a flag for picking up the flag. >> referee: personal foul, roughing the kicker. team number 30. 15-yard penalty, automatic first down. unsportsmanlike conduct, kicking team number 7, that penalty will be enforced after the first down, first and the 2 5. >> ian: you can't use the flag as a crutch. >> dan: it was really -- here's the roughing the punter, it was a good call. you see the extension there. he comes down. corey white and now this action here totally uncalled for. quell really, that's a bush league move by the punter.
>> ian: king has used the celebration over and over again. got his name out there, teammates enjoy it. you can't cross that line. >> dan: he's fortunate that his action came after the play so the raiders will maintain possession. >> ian: so buffalo, they will not have the football, 2:20 left. rex ryan's team is going to take a long flight back home and think about a .500 record. with the pittsburgh steelers coming up in orchard park. raiders have the quick turnaround, they will be in kansas city on thursday night. a win here will be six separate for oakland. >> dan: they have a tough remaining schedule with three of their four on the road.
but the road doesn't seem to bother them. >> ian: right now, the afc west is staring at three teams in the playoffs. the way kansas city chiefs have played and the denver broncos. the oakland raiders, trying to keep pace with the new england patriots. >> dan: how about eric berry of the chiefs and what he did today. >> ian: eight points, personally. >> dan: a pick six and a pick two. >> ian: yeah. don't talk a lot about the pick two, unless you're playing the lottery. >> dan: i know you will be in kansas city on thursday night. >> ian: thanks for the props. >> dan: bring your long johns. >> ian: positive and negative, i guess. >> dan: the negative is nine degrees forecasted for thursday. >> ian: did you just check that forecast? murray angles to the outside, buffalo out of time-outs.
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>> ian: fifth year at the helm as general manager of the raiders, what a turnaround this has been. all of the pieces fitting into place for oakland. two minutes away from a six-game winning streak. tie with new england for the number one seed in the afr. that's all right, if your oh -- afc. you've earned a nap time. this was a tough one. that will be third down for oakland.
going to finish, might get another carry here, 19 carries, 79 yards. two touchdowns for murray. richard was a major factor, nine carries for 53 yards o special teams as well in the return game. carr, 19 of 35, 260 yards. two touchdowns for carr. as he continues to make a case for the mvp award. >> dan: and,en, a strong fourth quarter by carr. especially the raiders bouncing back from the start in the second half. >> ian: murray, gets to pad the numbers, over 80 yards. kick by corey graham, now it's fourth down. buffalo cannot stop the clock, down to one minute left. and 28-second difference between the play clock and the game
clock. >> dan: derek carr talking to bill vinivich, probably call a time-out just before the play clock runs out. they'll bring out marquette king. >> ian: this is a buffalo bills team that was playing a higher level of defense. but when it mattered, oakland turned it up a notch. heading for the oakland sideline. tonight on cbs begins with 60 minutes and the speaker of the house, paul ryan, followed by bull, ncis los angeles and mcguyver, only on cbs. >> dan: derek carr being greeted by the mvp chant of the raider faithful. showed his toughness today. every snap in the shotgun.
>> ian: king, no rush, ball bounces at the 22. rick sheas the other way. will be down just inside the 30, with 18 seconds to play. taylor trots out on to the field. buffalo bills, it's rough. they had an opportunity here. looking for signature win. the bills will fall to 6-6. that's where tennessee stands. pittsburgh is on the verge of knocking off the new york giants who improve to 7-5. >> dan: miami got smoked by baltimore to fall to 7-5. bills not out of it. >> ian: final 18 seconds in oakland.
throw it away. ten seconds remaining. pressure from bruce irvin. carr wraps up the day with 260 yards and two touchdowns through the air. any time he was asked about it, he said thanks for asking. >> dan: offensive line, says we'll take care of you. no sacks on derek carr. >> ian: the carr insurance as they're known. >> dan: really? >> ian: that's the story. >> dan: did you patent that? >> ian: i have no role in that. that's out there. that's a thing. >> dan: you are out there. >> ian: so are you, my friend. throws, incomplete.
now six seconds remain on the clock. justin hunter, the intended receiver. bills still alive but the way things are stacking up, probably going to have to run the table to make it happen. miami and the jets still on the schedule for buffalo. kansas city, san diego, indianapolis, and denver the rest of the way for oakland. final play. taylor, and it's brought down. by any means, the oakland raiders win again, sixth in a row for oakland, 10-2 overall.
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>> pelley: for donald trump's agenda to become reality, it must pass through the office of the speaker of the house, paul ryan. ryan didn't want trump to be president. the men threw ugly names at one another, and ryan refused to campaign for trump. but elections have a way of proving that old adage, that politics makes strange bedfellows. we spoke with ryan on thursday in his capitol office about a partnership that may become the
most scrutinized in washington. how often are you speaking to the president-elect? >> paul ryan: about every day. >> pelley: do you call him, or does he call you? >> ryan: both. >> pelley: when you call over to the-- >> ryan: he answers his cell phone. i sh-- probably shouldn't say that on tv. ( laughs ) he just-- he just answers the phone. >> pelley: you call donald trump on his cell phone? >> ryan: all the time. >> pelley: and how does he answer? what does he say? >> ryan: he says, "hi, hello." >> pelley: he doesn't say, "this is the president-elect?" >> ryan: no. he's a pretty casual guy. he calls me paul. i call him mr. president-elect, because i just-- i have a reverence for the office. but-- yeah, he's very casual about it. >> pelley: "hey, this is paul. and here's-- here's something i'm thinking about." >> ryan: yeah, yeah. all the time. >> pelley: how long do those conversations go on? >> ryan: 20 to 45 minutes. >> pelley: have you told him being president is not being c.e.o. of the united states, that the congress is going to have a say? >> ryan: oh, we've talked about that extensively. we've talked about-- the constitution, article one on the constitution, the separation of powers. he feels very strongly, actually, that-- that, under president obama's watch, he stripped a lot of power away from the constitution, away from the legislative branch of
government. and we want to reset the balance of power, so that people and the constitution are rightfully restored. >> pelley: and that's what donald trump believes? he believes in the separation of power? you don't think he thinks he's going to run this country the way he wants to? >> ryan: no, i think he understands there's a constitution, and that those separate but equal branches of government give us a limited government. and he believes that. >> pelley: you called donald trump a racist. >> ryan: no, i didn't. i said his comment was. >> pelley: uh-huh. well-- i'm not sure there's a great deal of daylight between those two definitions. but he definitely called you ineffective and disloyal. have you patched it up? >> ryan: yeah, we have. we're fine. we're not looking back. that's behind us. we're way beyond that. now we're talking about, how do we fix this country's problems. >> pelley: you know, i'm curious, though. how did you patch it up? who apologized to whom? ( laughs ) how did that conversation go? >> ryan: we went fine. it was-- pretty much the day after the election, or maybe two days after the election, and we basically decided to let bygones be g-- bygones, and let's move
forward and fix this country's problems. and it was over and done with. and ever since then, we've had nothing but extremely productive conversations. >> pelley: paul ryan has led the majority in the house just over a year. he took the job, reluctantly, when his predecessor gave up on trying to pull the fractured party together. ryan is 46, from wisconsin and an expert on the budget. what is the first bill you intend to pass? >> ryan: well, the first bill we're going to be working on is our obamacare legislation. >> pelley: you're going to repeal it first? >> ryan: yes. >> pelley: you're not pulling the rug out from under the 20 million people who already have- - >> ryan: no, no. we-- >> pelley: --obamacare. >> ryan: we want to make sure that we have a good transition period, so that people can get better coverage at a better price. >> pelley: so what are we talking about? months? years? >> ryan: i can't give you an answer to that. we're still working on that. >> pelley: but people talked about three years, in terms of a transition. >> ryan: yeah, i don't know the answer to that right now. what we know is we have to make good on this promise. we have to bring relief as fast as possible to people who are struggling under obamacare. >> pelley: what do republicans intend to put in its place? >> ryan: patient-centered healthcare that gets everybody
access to affordable healthcare coverage. so they can buy what they what they want to buy. >> pelley: so people will still get coverage, regardless of their pre-existing condition. >> ryan: yeah. we think pre-existing conditions is a very important feature of any healthcare system. >> pelley: children will stay on their parents' plans until the age of 26? >> ryan: yeah, that's something that we actually have always had in our plan, as well. >> pelley: and women will pay the same as men? that didn't used to be the case. >> ryan: it depends on the age of a person. so-- w-- we believe that we should-- have support based on age. the sicker and the older you get, the more support you ought to get. if you're a person that has-- low income, you probably should have more assistance than a person with high income, for example. >> pelley: is your plan going to cover everyone in america? >> ryan: we will give everyone access to affordable healthcare coverage. >> pelley: in the first year, what else do you expect to get through the congress? >> ryan: we really want to focus on economic growth and growing the economy. there are a lot of regulations that are really just crushing jobs. look at the coal miners in the rust belt that are getting out of work. look at the-- look at the loggers and the timber workers and-- and the paper mills in-- in the west coast. look at the ranchers or-- or
farmers in the midwest with-- with regulations. >> pelley: are you talking about rolling back environmental regulations, safety regulations? >> ryan: we're talking about smarter regulations that actually help us grow jobs in this country. we want to have good stewardship and conversation of the environment and economic growth. we have a real economic growth problem in america. we are limping along. wages are flat, and jobs aren't being created near to the extent that they could and should be. so we think regulatory relief is very, very important, and that's something we're going to work on day one. >> pelley: ryan told us that he can now support trump's changed positions on immigration-- from deporting all 11 million illegal immigrants, to focusing on only those who've committed crimes-- and from building a 2,000 mile wall to something less. >> ryan: no, we're not working on a d-- deportation force. here's what we're working on with respect to immigration, securing our border, enforcing our current laws. he talked about-- criminal aliens. that's just enforcing laws for people who came here illegally, who came and committed violent crimes. we should enforce those laws.
but really, what we're focused on is securing our border. >> pelley: well, trump said he was going to build a wall. >> ryan: yeah, i think conditions on the ground determine what you need in a particular area. some areas, you might need a wall. some area, you might need double fencing. i-- my own view on this is, whatever kind of-- device or barrier or policy to secure the boarder, that's necessary to secure the border, then do it. >> pelley: how big will the tax cut be for the middle class? >> ryan: well, again, we haven't written this bill. but if you want to get a sense of what we're looking at, it's virtually identical with the one that donald trump rolled out in the campaign. it means everyone gets lower tax rates, but we plug loopholes to pay for it. >> pelley: but give me a number. what is the tax cut for the average middle-class family? >> ryan: when i have a bill, i'll tell you the number. let's do this again-- >> pelley: you've thought this through. you've been thinking it through for years. what would you like to see? >> ryan: yeah, so the tax rates that we talked about, for-- individuals, we would have a 15% bracket, i think a 25% bracket, and a 33% bracket. we have seven brackets. we consolidate down to three.
the other thing that's really important in tax reform is making sure that we don't tax american businesses at much higher tax rates than our foreign competitors tax theirs. it is costing us jobs. it's one of the reasons all these american companies are moving overseas. >> pelley: what should the corporate tax rate be? >> ryan: well, our plan says 20%, and donald trump's plan says 15%. it's now 35%. >> pelley: do you think the rich will benefit the most from your tax reform plan? >> ryan: here's the point of our tax plan: grow jobs. get this economy growing. raise wages. simplify the tax system, so it's easy to comply with. >> pelley: you-- you're a little shy, when i ask you about the rich receiving the greatest part of the-- >> ryan: well, here's the problem when you-- >> pelley: --of the tax cuts. >> ryan: --when you ask these things. most of that income is small- business income. you have to remember, eight out of ten businesses in america, they file their business as individuals, as people, and so we think of that as the rich. but it's that business in the-- in the business park out of
jamesville, wisconsin, that has 50 employees. and do i want to lower their tax rates? you bet i do. >> pelley: mr. trump promised a $1 trillion infrastructure program. what are you going to build, and how are you going to pay for it? >> ryan: well i think, that should be decided by the marketplace. that should be decided by the needs in the particular states and communities as to what is built or rebuilt. and it's going to be one of our high priorities that we are going to be addressing this year. >> pelley: one of your high priorities that we heard almost nothing about during the campaign is poverty. >> ryan: actually, i've talked to him a lot about that. we feel very strongly about making work pay, about getting people transitioned from welfare to work. get people skills they need, help they need, so they can get on the ladder of life. >> pelley: ryan told us he has no plans to change social security, but government health insurance, including medicare, is a fire, he says, burning in the budget. >> ryan: if you want to think of the-- the fire that's burning-- it is the fact that-- the baby boom generation, no offense, and there's a lot of you.
>> pelley: i-- i qualify. >> ryan: yeah, you qualify. and-- and we're just not ready for the retirement of the baby boomers, and we'd better prepare for that. >> pelley: what changes do you plan for medicare? >> ryan: here's the problem. medicare goes bankrupt in about ten years. the trust fund runs out of money. so we have to make sure that we shore this program up, and the reforms that we've been talking about don't change the benefit for anybody who is in or near retirement. my mom's now enjoying medicare. she's already retired. she earned it. but for those of us, you know, the x-gen-- generation on down, it won't be there for us-- on its current path. so we have to bring reform to this program for the younger generation, so that it's there for us when we retire, and so that we can keep cash flowing to current generations' commitments, and the more we kick the can down the road, the more we delay, the worse it gets. >> pelley: but you are going to kick the can down the road for the next year or two. this is not your top priority. >> ryan: it's not our t-- i haven't even discussed this with-- with donald trump yet. but it is a-- it is an issue that we have to tackle.
>> pelley: from his balcony, the speaker is watching the rise of donald trump's inauguration platform. but, for ryan, the best view in washington isn't a pretty sight. you know, one thing i noticed during our interview inside was that every time you talked about the evils of washington, you glanced out the window. >> ryan: i do, because that's where all the bureaucracy's are. yeah. yeah, yeah. that's right. >> pelley: you think of this town as part of the problem, not part of the solution. >> ryan: absolutely i do. if you look down, i can see h.h.s., education, e.p.a. >> pelley: the two most prominent things on the skyline from this vantage point are the washington monument and the new trump hotel. >> ryan: that's right. that's what i knew you were going to say. >> pelley: the new trump hotel. >> ryan: that's the new trump hotel. yeah he notic-- he actually noted that, when i took him up here. >> pelley: i bet he did. he probably told you what a great place it was. >> ryan: he said something like that. >> pelley: is that a reminder of who's boss? >> ryan: the washington monument's the tallest one. and by the way, the dome, it's a little higher. >> pelley: beneath the dome, ryan will have a front row seat
to trump's swearing in. did you believe he could be nominated? really? >> ryan: yeah, no, i-- i didn't see this one comin'. he knows that. i don't think most people in the country saw. if you would've put last year into a movie script and taken it to hollywood two years ago, they would've laughed you out of the room, because it wouldn't have been believable. >> pelley: did you see election night coming? >> ryan: no, not really. i think-- >> pelley: you expected hillary clinton to win. >> ryan: i thought the odds were clearly in her favor. so i was a little surprised, pleasantly so. >> pelley: do you trust him? >> ryan: yeah. >> pelley: here's something many people wonder. does he say the same bizarre things to you in private that he says in public? and it's an important distinction-- >> ryan: you know, i think there is a bit of a difference between the private person and the public person. in the private person, there's a conversation like this, and it's all about how to get things done. so every conversation i have almost always revolves around, you know, personnel and policy
focused on producing results. >> pelley: trump tweeted, in the last week or so, that he had actually won the popular vote, if you deduct the millions who voted illegally. do you believe that? >> ryan: i don't know. i-- i'm not really focused on these things. >> pelley: wait a minute. wait a minute. you-- you have an opinion on whether millions of americans voted illegally? >> ryan: i-- i have no way of backing that up. i have no knowledge of such things. >> pelley: you don't believe that-- >> ryan: but i don't-- it doesn't matter to me. he won the election. >> pelley: but how, we asked, does he negotiate with a man whose word, or tweets, cannot always be believed? >> ryan: look, ( sighs ), like i said, he's going to-- the way i see-- the-- the-- the tweets you're talking about, he's basically giving voice to a lot of people who have felt that they were voiceless. he's s-- communicating with people in this country who've felt like they have not been listened to. he's going to be an unconventional president. i really think we have a great
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jobs have been created since the great recession. about 350,000 are unfilled, because factories can't find properly-trained american workers. it's called advanced manufacturing, and if you want to see what it looks like, you need to go a place off the beaten track: the golden triangle. that's a bit of a misnomer, because it's one of the poorest regions in the poorest state: mississippi. ( cheering ) if you have heard of the golden triangle, it might be because of this: mississippi state football. around here, everybody loves the bulldogs, and bulldog is an apt description of the man who runs economic development for the area: joe max higgins. he considers job creation a full-contact sport. >> joe max higgins: the only way we win any deal is to tear off everybody else's face. we c-- got to kill everybody to
win the deal. >> whitaker: ferocity is a job requirement. during the recession, unemployment in some parts of the triangle got as high as 20%. >> higgins: we're going to come up with a program. >> whitaker: at 6.0%, unemployment is now just above the national average, and a lot of people here credit joe max higgins. he has attracted $6 billion of advanced industry, including this mill run by steel dynamics. it's one of the most hi-tech steel mills in the country. he got this helicopter factory up and running. truck maker paccar used to build engines only in europe-- it opened its first u.s. plant in the triangle. companies were moving around, this off-shoring. they were going to countries where everything's cheaper? >> higgins: for some companies, offshore wasn't as great as they thought it was or as it was portrayed to be. many of the companies said "hey, if it's going to be consumed in the u.s., we can produce it in
the u.s. cheaper and more efficiently than we can elsewhere and bring it in." >> whitaker: they save money by being here in mississippi? >> higgins: uh-huh. >> whitaker: higgins has brought in 6,000 jobs to the tri-county area since 2003. that might not sound like a lot to people in big cities, but to the people here in the small towns of the golden triangle, it amounts to about half the manufacturing jobs lost during the last 25 years. through the 1990s, factories here produced textiles, toys, and tubing. one by one, they shut down, and thousands of low-skilled jobs vanished. so where did all those jobs go? >> higgins: well, a lot of those people just left. they were so devastated by artech's closing, flexible flyer's closing, blazon tube closing, how about that? i mean, just bam, bam, bam, the hits just keep on coming. >> ward: joe max higgins was hired away from his economic development job in arkansas to stop the hemorrhaging here in the triangle.
he makes $250,000 a year, paid by a partnership of the three counties and local businesses. people here will tell you he earns every penny. he's like a very demanding head coach. >> higgins: there's no taking plays off, never, okay? i tell our staff, "if you leave our office and-- and you didn't do something to make our place a better place today, then you need to find another job." >> whitaker: you sound like a coach. >> higgins: well, it's probably what i should be. >> whitaker: right away, he coached his small staff to the triangle's biggest win in fifty years. they beat out louisiana, missouri and arkansas, convincing the steel mill that building here was its smartest and cheapest option. since 2007, 24 hours a day, scrap metal is dumped into giant buckets, lifted into an electric furnace and melted down in a fiery display. in the old days, a mill like this would have needed 4,000
workers; here, it takes only 650 to churn out more than 3 million tons of steel a year. electrician jared glover took us as close to the blazing furnace as you can get. this is all automated? >> jared glover: all the workers, we're just a small force. >> whitaker: this is what advanced manufacturing looks like: a small, highly-trained workforce keeps the automation humming. jared glover used to work at a lumber mill, living paycheck to paycheck. now he earns more than $100,000 a year, about three times his old salary. what has that meant to you and your family? >> glover: had two kids coming here, and now i got four, and we got a bigger house. got a little more land. you know, we're-- they got a good school they go to, and everybody's happy. >> higgins: how ya doin'? >> whitaker: joe max higgins is the very definition of downhome.
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