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annette: i am annette- a young. welcome to this hour. expected to tell them that it is not to define britain relationship with your. >>
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annette: fury as the european parliament holds an extraordinary decision on its pressureu places in order to leave the block. and here in paris, protests for the 11th time against the government pass hotly contested labor reform. annette: all eyes are on brussels this tuesday. david cameron meets with fellow eu leaders. he will only attend the first day of the two-day summit. the soon-to-be former prime formerr will meet with eu prime minister jean-claude
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junker, and donald toss. let's take a listen to what jean-claude juncker had to farage just a half an hour or so into the meeting. youhat is the last time applaud me here. and to some extent, i am surprised that you are here. you were fighting for the exit. the british people voted in favor of the exit. are brussels correspondent has been following all of this for us. we have been seeing some amazing themes here in the european parliament this morning. haven't weight? think this is inevitable, ncker, an-claude ju avid federalist, and nigel
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farage, the 52-year-old from in m.v.p. forbeen 17 years. very clear in all those plenary sessions, that what we saw today, jean-claude juncker saying that he is not a robot, a soloist bureau cat, that he is a human being and is very upset with the outcome of the referendum. but he will respect it and calls on the united kingdom to get this done and get it done without delay or that was the , but with respect to the socialists, the liberals, and to the european people's party, which is the biggest group in the european parliament. the head of that group said the policy of appeasement is over, that the eu will be representing 440 million citizens, so the
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interest of london will not be represented. you can see tough talk coming from the european parliament in brussels today. but the u.k. to trigger -- the u.k. to trigger that article 50. that meeting takes place between david cameron and other eu leaders. >> no mep's will be there. this will be a very tense meeting today, although we will see a lot of smiles and handshakes on camera. lookingmeron might be very isolated. remember, back on the 19th of february, he is a man who stood up audaciously and said i dislike brussels, i do not like brussels, but i love the united kingdom, promising to get a privileged deal from the united kingdom to keep them in the european union.
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months were spent trying to dress up suitable deals for the united kingdom to keep them in because they did not want to see the united kingdom and it 65 million citizens leave the bloc. they are working on the assumption that the u.k. will leave the european union. they are giving it some time for a reflective period so that things can work themselves out in the united kingdom, but as one irish official told me last night, he said a british official does not have the same authority today as he did a week ago in brussels. the feeling is that the u.k. has already left the european union. we have seen the european commissioner already stepped down, resign from his position. annette: are brussels correspondent reporting from there, clearly yet another busy day. thank you. the member ofw by
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international affairs. , whether in fact the brexit will follow through -- will it actually happen? >> there is speculation because in order for brexit to happen, you have to invoke article 50. that essentially starts the divorce proceedings between the u.k. anti-eu. david cameron, the only person who can trigger that article, said he is not going to do it. that is up to his successor. who might his successor be? boris johnson. yesterday boris johnson wrote that there was no rush to leave the eu. current homehe secretary, theresa may. she wants england to remain in the eu. so who will trigger article 50? that remains unclear at best. classf the british once britain to rethink the results of the referendum.
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this is part of the public discourse. the liberal democrat leader, to show you it goes across the british political spectrum, says his party is not going to roll over and give up and he is going to campaign in the next general election to keep britain within the eu or bring it back one way or another within the eu. david lamb says stop this madness through a vote in parliament. parliament is not bound to follow the results of the referendum. there is no legal operation to do it. skepticism as well in the eu, put that up on the screen again. maier says politicians should be given the chance to think through the consequences of an exit. they seem to be leaving the door open to perhaps not going through with the brexit, and an anonymous source was telling "the times," will they ever do it? inthey do not do it today
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terms of invoking article 50, they do not think they will do it. annette: will there be a vote? >> if you look at the petition signed now by 4 million people, the petition had called, been up and running since may, and the petition was that if there is less than the 75% turnout -- which is the case -- and if the hader is remain or leave less than 60% votes, then we need to revote. so 4 million people have now signed this, and that means parliament will be obliged to consider the petition and consider whether to put that to a debate. secondly, if you look in european history at times when there has been a popular vote that has not been followed through, you can find ample evidence that it does indeed happen. 1992, denmark rejects the master treaty, that they revote after a minor modification and accepted. 2000 eight, ireland rejects the treaty of lisbon. the following year they vote on
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the exact same treaty and this time they accept it. 2015, last year alone, the greeks were asked by way of referendum whether they wanted austerity measures, european austerity measures. they said no. tsipras, newly elected prime minister, turned around and accepted the austerity measures. there are examples of the popular vote. annette: there are accidents. precedents. this tornier vote continues with the u.k. labor part faces its own problems following resignations of half of its top team in less than 24 hours. jeremy corbyn has come under a sea of criticism within his hisy to fail to motivate the remain camp. dr. jeremy corbyn addressed a
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crowd of supporters. after mounting pressure for him to step down. jeremy corbyn: let me make it absolutely clear. -- jeremy corbyn is not resigning. if there is another leadership election, jeremy corbyn will be standing again. the contrasts to his own ministerial team. since the weekend, nearly two dozen members of the shadow cabinet have resigned as they for failing corbyn to campaign adequately during the run-up to last week's eu referendum. the internal labor results left the beleaguered conservatives poking fun. david cameron: i would advise her to -- she might be in the shadow cabinet by the end of the day. and i thought i was having a bad day.
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[laughter] >> labor members overwhelmingly elected corbyn to run the party last year. havemainstream labor mps looked to that wing for a central party. our country is divided, and thank neitherll those in front of me nor behind for the maneuvering at this time. the results of a secret ballot by bour mps are coming out on tuesday over corbyn's leadership. to the widerown party membership to decide if he stays or goes. annette: moving on, in other news in paris, unions are holding protests for the 11th time against the government's hotly contested labor reform.
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the senate today will be voting on those measures pick let's cross now to james andre. given that this is the 11th time the unions are holding such a protest, are we likely to see large numbers turning up? well, those numbers are indeed expected. i can tell you for the moment what we are seeing the most is police. on toare 2500 policeman make sure that this protest is not turned sour. most of the previous ones have stopped widespread violence, and we are being told by protesters, you can bestie as you can see behind me there are not that many protesters arriving just yet. unions are turning up but they are being blocked. they are and searched. the police have strict instructions not to let anything that can be used as a weapon enter this protest, but they are
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also not letting any form of masks and -- protective glasses -- we are being told that their own security personnel has been banned of using these types of equipment. we will have to see if this that how this protest goes. it is quite an unusual route that is being used him a 2.5 kilometers of marching, and this itinerary has been chosen. there has been a negotiation between the government who wanted the unions to stay put, and the unions themselves, who insisted on a march. annette: this is coming as the senate in paris is voting on legislation, james. james: absolutely. the senate will be voting at 6:00 paris time. it is widely expected for them to adopt this piece of legislation. there have been modifications to
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make it more liberal. to the senate being dominated by the right-wing. they have not -- dropping the 35 hour work week or recapping the amount of benefits workers can get if they get sacked. so indeed this legislation should be passed in the senate with these liberal modifications made. it will be going back to the lower chamber of parliament, where it is widely expected to be modified back to its initial form. that will take place on july 5. annette: james andre reporting from the center of paris. thank you. in other news, one of the two blackbox fight recorders -- flight recorders from the egyptair plane that plunged into the ocean last month -- the two blackbox recorders were found two weeks ago but were far too
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damaged to extract information from. the plane wasard killed when it plunged into the sea. making news this hour -- david cameron is facing eu leaders for the very first time since the brexit vote and is expected to tell them that it is not for him to redefine britain's relationship with europe. >> that is the last time you are applauding here. annette: much commotion in the european parliament as it holds an extraordinary session. this as eu leaders put pressure on lending to try to trick its negotiations in order to leave the block. and business news now. stephen carroll is joining me. we are seeing signs finally of
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some improvement on the markets as a result of the brexit vote. stephen: after the huge vote we had on friday and monday, we are seeing european shares bouncing back somewhat in trading today. mining and banks are the companies leading the gains today in the european markets. the banking sector had been pummeled over the past two days. rbs up 3% today. .t's share value is down nowhere in any back some of those losses, but no word this but -- but there has been a turn. there is a shift in direction in 1%, tradingp .75 of at $1.33. 31 year lows against the dollar, yesterday just $1.31. the scene at the bank is being described as dead cat banks,
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which means you are getting a smaller boost after large falls. we do not know what the effect is. there are other brexit related news today. recordbusiness world, a $3 trillion was reached. investors voted on a remain -- on a vote to remain. they assess longer-term follow-up from the decision. european markets are some of the biggest plungers, but almost $1 trillion was wiped off the value of the s&p 500 index on wall street. richard branson says his business has lost a third of its value tuesday. he told a british television program he had canceled the deal that would have created 3000 jobs because of brexit. he also has been speaking to chinese businesspeople who were stopping investing in the u.k.
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shifting expansion plans in favor of other eu states. ryanair told "the wall street journal" he was unlikely to place any new aircraft in the u.k. because of the brexit quote. moving to some other business stories -- volkswagen is said to have reached a deal in the united states over the emissions cheating scandal. the settlement is to cost the carmaker almost $15 billion, the automobile sector in the u.s. history. buyncludes $10 million to back volkswagen cars. it will not be the end of volkswagen problems. halflkswagen soared almost a million easy vehicles from 2009 it's a last year and is now preparing to fix them all. under a deal struck between the officecarmaker, american
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to buy that cars, or repair them, so they will comply with clean-air norms. the -- 40%es contain the amount over other vehicles -- the reported $15 billion deal includes buybacks, compensation to owners, investment in green technology research. it is the largest settlement in thecar business, what is first in several deals volkswagen will have. >> it is the tip of the iceberg in terms of what they can expect from other follow-on lawsuits from bases like california, and go for even more action. and they will continue further with impacts to future product development and web volkswagen can achieve with a diminished budget going forward. >> similar lawsuits are expected
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across the world. 11 million vehicles are involved here it since the scandal was revealed last september, volkswagen brand sales have dropped by 13% in the u.s. diesel cars' average value is down 19%. stephen: staying with the automobile sector, the boss of the company behind a global safety airbag company will step down from takata. more than 40 million cars have been recalled throughout the world after faulty airbags were found to cause injury and in some cases death when they inflated. shares in takata are up from 10% in tokyo. one more word on brexit from me and the affected is having a billionaires. the world's richest have lost almost $200 billion because of market turmoil.
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the richest people in the world control $3.2 trillion. they are among those who were hardest hit. even bill gates and mark zuckerberg took a hit. annette: that is stephen carroll with the day's business news. thank you for that. it is time now for the press review. time to take a look at what is making headlines across the world. withoined in the studio florence villeminot. not surprisingly, brexit, brexit, brexit. it is all about brexit, papers looking at the political crisis shaking their country as a result of that vote. flo: that's right, on the left and the right. let's look at what is happening with labor on the front page of "the daily mail." it saves labor
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-- it says labor is tearing itself apart. laboring to the report, has dissented to under chaos. jeremy corbyn, the leader, is expecting an insurrection among mp's the senior labor resigned after his disastrous handling of the referendum. he is facing a vote of no-confidence today, but he has vowed to take a deal. annette: it is a political tsunami on both sides, with the tories looking at a new leader after david cameron announced he will be stepping down. the front page of "the guardian is talking about battle lines that will be drawn out. johnson people expect to throw his name into the hat. he led the leave campaign. but he will say some tough that he will face some tough competition. facing somell be
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tough competition. marissa may -- take a look at the cartoon in "the guardian." you can see several of these candidates, all circled around and you can see people gathered around him there you have michael dell's, and joe osborne, theresa may, and boris johnson. you can see they are shedding tears, but the guiding suggests that the guardian suggests is maybe pocket of tears. a very interesting piece in the scotland herald today says that scotland is in private talks injure valter over a radical plan to keep parts of the u.k. in the european union. you can see first minister nicola sturgeon, going on a diplomatic offensive to lobby rustles and every you member
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states around this planet could include scotland and also northern ireland and also wanted to stay. a radical plan getting a lot of attention. meanwhile, prime minister david cameron is heading to brussels today for a final eu summit following the brexit vote, and you can see here the independent says it will probably be a little awkward. "the wall street journal" is focusing on what is a really opportunity for the european union. this is the spur they need to ceuge themselves as reform before other members start following written possibly. other eu leaders are vowing to speed things up to make sure the u.k. does leave. a remise me of somebody who has found out their partner wants to leave the marriage. ok, out. this paper is focusing on
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this, the french business paper. you can see a photo of francois hollande meeting with german chancellor angela merkel, prime renzi,r of italy, matteo so quite a show of stars there. there is zero problem in europe, and that is the fact that there is not a real project, not a real alternative. it talks about angela merkel -- "they have run out of ideas. they do not have a project or anything to propose in light of crisis.litical anything to fill the vacuum. annette: many papers are saying a second brexit has taken place come this time after the euro cup, after england was shocked to fit by aslan. a lot of people are saying this is sport imitating life.
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of a out the front page french sports daily. they are saying iceland is an amazing team. keep in mind that iceland is going to take on france in the quarterfinal on sunday. you can imagine, the papers in iceland are thrilled about the score. let's take a look at the front page of a local paper. annette: can you just say that again? flo: i do not know if that is actually the way you pronounce it. how far will they go? is a lot of interest on the i-17. if you want to know fun facts, "harold." thist is the first major turn for iceland. iceland is not famous for football, and their players are not all professional football players. the goalkeeper is a film director, and even the manager
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has been working part-time as a dentist or it he said that from now on he will be a full-time coach. another interesting fact is there are 30,000 icelandic fans in france right now. thatdqwueeewep@1@xxxxxx
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announcer: this is a production of china central television america. walter: most people don't remember the day unicef was created. it was 1946, and the united nations general assembly wanted to provide emergency food and health care to children in countries devastatated by worlrld war ii. unicef is still around today. the u.n. program furnisheses long-term humanitarian and developmental assistance to millions of children and mothers in more thanan 190 countries. this week on "full frame," we'll meet 3 of unicef's celebrity ambassadors. they'll tell us how they use their fame and fortune to advocate on behalf of the world's most vulnerable citizens. i'm mike walter coming to you from the heart of new york city's vibrant times square. let's take it "full frame."
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angelique kidjo is a grammy award-winning singer, songwriter, and activist. her creativity and unique musical style has captivated audiences all around thehe world. she combines elements of diverse genres. in fact, this benin-born artist is widely known for pushing her creativity to the next level. [kidjo singing in foreign language]
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universally regagarded as one of the world's most influential african artists, angelique has used her global status as a performer as a platform for change. in 2002, she was named a unicef goodwill ambassador. 5 years later, in 2007, she founded the batonga foundation, that's a non-profit, that aims to provide secondary and higher education for girls in africa. angelique also advocates for a number of other causes, including human rights and women's rights, and has worked in the communities of several countries across africa. along the way, she's captured about every award in existence. recently, the world economic forum handed her the 2015 crystal award. "the guardian" newspaper lists her as one of
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the top 100 most inspiring women in the world. there's a good chance you'll agree once you've had a chance to listen to her. she joins us now to share her story about music and activism. welcome. kidjo: thanks for having me, michael. walter: : 100 most inspiri.. just talalking to yourur husban, probably 1 100 most exhausted,d, too. i'm m just listening to yor schedudule. you'rere talkingng s today, but latater you're going to be going and seeing this little band--some people may have heard of them--anand i thik the singer himself sent a little invitation for you to come out and see. so what are you doing later this evening? kidjo: oh, later, i'm going to see the u2. um, i love the whole band, and bono is a friend of mine, of course, but i like a lot the way the edge play the guitar. i like the combination of their music, actually. you know, it's rock and roll, but you know the root is back in ireland. walter: yeah. well, and the only reason why i bring that up, because it segues nicely into what you just finished. you were with the san francisco symphony. so this, i think, gives the full range in why you
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are so unique. i mean, your music is all over the place, and--and the stylings, it just--it's very, very creative. i mean, what inspires you, and is there anything you won't try, i guess, is the question. kidjo: well, i think that music hahas given me, since e i was a child, you know, in a home of 10 children and everybody having their own agenda, this and that, to--to center myself and to have a window to the world, and my father and mothers have made sure that we all have access to music, to sports, to book, and always urge us to go out there and meet other people. my father--my father--one of the father's phrases, "your brain is not a plate of spaghetti you got to eat. just use it, and use it wise. it's a weapon, your ultimate weapon if it's linked to your heart. whatever you do, then, touch people." so music for me is a language of peace, it's the language of love, and i was gifted with it when i was
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born. i didn't ask for it, and the voice, for me, is the mirror of the soul. if you are able to mirror anyone's souls through your voice, they can see themselves and empower themselves. ♪ oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh ♪ [singing in foreign language] i want people to jump! come on, jump with me!
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♪ oh, oh, oh, oh... walter: are you constantly growing as an artist? because, you know, we talked about how diverse you are, and the fact that you just performed with the symphony, i mean, it--it just seems like it's--it's boundless. kidjo: music is boundless--boundary-less, colorless, language-less. it's universal, and as an artist, i like to challenge myself. i like to, um--to stretch my voice. i like to see how far i'm able to go and the possibilities. i'm a person of opportunities and possibilities. there might be walls around you. you might hit a wall, you might walk to--to difficulties, but as long as you are confident that you have the capacity of solving
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problem, you can make choices and stick to the choices and move forward. it's the key to everything, and music have brought me to that. when you're writing a song, right? you are inspired, and the song is there, the core of it is there in that inspiration. now you have to nourish that inspiration. it comes in with the instrumentation. you have to know when you stop. otherwise, that beauty that comes from your inspiration is diluted, is lost. so, for me, music have taught me how to live with other people, how to do what i do with the symphonic orchestra in--in--in--in s san francisco. those two worlds--world are not against each other. they are one world. there's only one music, and the mumusic of my ancecestors from afafrica have penenetrate and nourish h and nurtrture the musc we listen to today everywhere on the planet. walter: mm-h-hmm. do you feel more of a responsisibility because you have this platform,
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uh, to speak out? i mean, talk to me about your work with unicef and how first got involved in this and how it's grown. i mean, talking to your husband, you've become a voice for the e entire continent.. whether you like it or not, in a sense, you are. i mean... kidjo: i didn't ask for it, but it becomes a fact. um, i think that, um, becoming the person that i've become, i could not become this person because if my father and mom was not the person that they were, and also because my father always used to say it to us, "your skin color don't matter. you're human being. go out there. take the world by storm. don't come back and tell me you failed because you're black. that does not justify anything." and i've been empowerered as a a person o meet people. i don't care about your skin color, basically. it doesn't matter. it's just the envelope outside. as long as we can speak, we can disagree, but never in violence or hate.
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woworking with unicef brought me all the time back to that simple, simple core thing of how people that you e tryingng to help, if you don't bring them in the equation of the solutions and the problems, you're never going to succeed. that's why it has failed in africa for so long, because people come from the western world, they mean well. is it out of meaning well? is it out of guilt? what are these? are you helping the african people really take lead in their own life, or are you doing your own p.r. job or you want to feel good about yourself? because the people that you are helping, if you don't see them as a human being or as human being with equal rights to you that you have, that you don't see them as people. you don't talk to them and say, "this is the problem you have in here. tell us how we start it, how can we help you." and let's hear from them before you
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start bringing your program with all your big money and doing that stuff, and that's the power of unicef. that's why unicef has been around for so long, because we work with local and--local people. i mean, all the offices of unicef in--in africa, you have local people that goes on the--go on the field that the people relate to, they speak the same language. we don't tell people what they have to do. when it comes to vaccination, how do we succeed? we train retire--retired health worker to train other young kids. if they need a motorcycle, they can have the motorcycle. with portable conservation of the vaccination, we provide all the thing that is needed to get the vaccination to the farest people ever and make sure that every child and every mother that is pregnant have their vaccination. that's how we improve the life of the pepeopl. we just don't come and say, "we're going to do this for you." waters: mm-hmm. kidjo: who are you to know what we want? who are people that talk on our behalf? we don't have a voice. we have a brain,
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thank you. don't speak for me, absolutely not. i refuse that. waters: well, that's one thing ththat, obviously, listetening o you and the passion that you bring, irritates you, but--and it's because you kind of--i'm way up here, i'm telling you, instead of this engagement that you're describing, but there's another piece of this that i know frustrates you, as well, which is these people basically identifying and saying, "well, this is what this is all about." i mean, you've seen the continent as described, "oh, poverty and pain and war," and--and you know it so much differently than that, and--and i know that has to get to you. kidjo: oh, it gets to me because it's s just news, and it's just regular business here, and people don't realize how they are killing the voice of the africans and the will to trust us to work together. i mean, it's been going on for a long time. why is the narratives of africa is told by the one that enslave us and colonize us? and we can get--we cannot get out of that narrative, because if we try to
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get out of it, we expose how unfair it has been for so long, and on the other hand, we africans have to tell our story better. we have to come up with a way to tell this story, to tell the world it's not all about misery. it's not all about war. we don't manufacture weapons in africa. hohow come we have so much weapons in africa? did anyone--it occur to anyone to ask the question? how did boko haram have their hand on the--on--on the weapons? they come from libya. who sell those weapons to gaddafi when he was in power? so it's just like the western world is always like, "oh, it's your choice." we n't t have no choice in that. we didn't choose anything. you just give us what you think we need as long as we--we have basically one another, and you can just take whatever you want out of it. it's ok. so for me, it becomes very annoying and disturbing that individuals
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that have no interest, a clinical interest in africa, care more about the african people than the leaders of those rich countries. it's all about business. ok. business is important, but today, what kind of business model we have for the world? that put people at the center of the capitalism, because without consumer, there's no business. i mean, any group, large group, whatever you sell, people don't buy your product, you don't exist, so how do you make sure that the public that you are appealing to, the one you want to make business with, the poorest out of the poorest, how you lift them out of poverty for them to be become your customer f for the genenerationo come? walter: i want to ask you before we goththough, ababout your own foundation and the imimportance of educatation and, uh, your work there. i mean, what--what inspired you to do it? and, um, what--and the payoff, too. i'm sure there is--that it's really gratifying to be doing the type of thing that you're doing.
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kidjo: well, i started this foundatition because when i become a unicef goodwill ambassador in 2002, my first question to unicef was, "what does that mean? what i'm supposed to do? i'm not good at small talk at cocktails. i can't do that." they said, "what you want to do?" i said, "education, girls' education." so i campaigned for the millennium development goal for primary education throughout pretty much tv and radio recording psps, and i remember, i think, in tanzania, a mothther comes to me and said to me, "angelique, we've listened to you. you've put our girls to school." primary school is pretty much going to end pretty soon, but what does the future hold for them? you know that if they finish primary education and they are not in school, they're going to end up in early marriage, early pregnancy, what we've been through. education can prevent that. that's when i come up with the idea to start, to be the first to start in secondary education, pretty much. in 2007, batonga was founded, and we decide that we want to
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target the girls that come from extreme poverty background. all friends of both parents or one, all friends of hiv/aids, give them tuition, uniform, books, one meal a day, tutoring, and mentoring, because the mentoring program is really important. when you're not there, somebody has to be the one that reply and answer for the needs in case of emergency before they email me or call me, and that phase is something that make the parent--put the parent at ease. they know who is who, and it's true that when i go to the country, especially in my country, it struck me that more and more women come than father until last year when father start coming in, and the question was: what? "we want to see if it was legit, if it was you, not somebody using your name and learning our kids something else." and then realizing the father that
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educating the girls brings income not only to the village, to the community, but to the family. educating girls in africa have endless benefits, especially secondary education is a game changer. that's where you start having leadership building up to the kids, how they see themselves, the confidence they get, because every time i go, i see them, they are like, "i'm doing this. i'm doing this." they--they have already lined up what they want to do, and that's what i want. i want those girls to be the best possible for their country, leaders in their business--own business, to take lead in their own life, not just to be at the mercy of decision made by adults that just want to get rid of them, and to change the policies in their cocountry, because a girl, when a girl is born in africa, has no identity. you belong to
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your father. they can marry you off with anyone he wanted to. they can change that. those girls can transform that. africa need the girls secondary education and tertiary education for our economy to boom because the women invest better and differently. walter: well, you are undoubtedly a change agent. you're a delight to talk to. thanks so much for stopping by "full frame." kidjo: thank you. walter: coming up next, i'll be joined by another legendary songstress and unicef ambassador whose work is making a global impact. judy collins is an award-winning singer/songwriter. she's captivated audiences with her signature sublime voice and social activism for more than 4 decades. her 1968 single, "both sides now," won a grammy award
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for best folk performance, and in 2003, she was inducted into the grammy hall of fame. she's been called "the voice of american folk music," and there's no disputing that she's deserving of the title. collins: ♪ hello, my darling what do you know? open the door and come on in i'm so glad to see you my friend you're like a rainbow coming around the benend and when i see you happy well, it sets my heart free i'd like to be as good a friend to you as you are to me e ♪ walter: since 1995, judy collins has served as a unicef goodwill ambassador and has traveled extensively, supporting projects around the world. she continues to raise funds for the unicef national committees. she donates proceeds from her concerts and royalties from guitar sales.
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the author of several books, she recently released her memoir, "sweet judy blue eyes: my life in music." she joins us today to discuss her career, her activism, and her work with unicef. judy collins, welcome to "full frame." collins: thank you so much. thanks for inviting me. walter: i mentioned "both sides now." um, when you first saw those lyrics, heard them, did you just say, "this is gold. this is s going to be there for years and years and years to come?" collins: oh, yes, i did, and in fact it was a funny way that i found the song because i was--it was 1967, and i was sound asleep up here on the upper west side, and my phone rang at 3:00 in the morning, and it was al kooper, who started the blues project and blood, sweat and tears. he and i were very good friends. he had my phone number, and i often wonder what would have happened if he'd called buffy or joan b., you know? but he called me, and he said, "listen, did i wake you?" and i said, "you did, but so what's the big issue here? why are you calling me in the middle of the night?" and he said, "well, i'm sitting here with this singer/songwriter. i followed
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her home because she said she wrote songs, and then he put joni mitchell on, and she--she sang me "both sides now." walter: oh, man. what an incredible moment. collins: and i said, "well, let's see. i'll be over right away." ha ha ha! and that's what happened. of course, i recorded it immediately, and thank you to joni mitchell. ♪ rows and flows of angel hair and ice cream castles in the air feather canyons everywhere i've looked at clouds that wayay and now they only block the sun they rain and snow on everyone so many things i would have done but clouds got in my way i've looked at clouds from both sides now up and down, and still somehow
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it's cloud illusions i recall i really don't know clouds atat all ♪ walter: so, thenen, as we momove along in time, you've had all these hits, and yet, um, you've--you know, when did you get the bubug to be an activist, do you think? what--whatat--because folk music kind of leads to that in a sense, doesn't it? collins: well, yes, but that also came from my father because he was very big on talking about everything. i mean, he was--he was outspoken to the nth degree, and people who spoke out the way he did were often--often lost their jobs. i mean, somebody who talked about the mccarthy hearings in the way that he did on denver radio. john henry faulk was doing the same thing in--in texas, and he got canned. you know, they didn't want to to hear from him, , but people adored my father, and he was--because he was the kind of character he was and because he cared about people and he was very much a part of the
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community, they let him spout off on anything, and he did so at home or on the radio, and he always told us that we had to be part of the solution and if we didn't vote, we had no say in anything, so i was really primed for that, and, of course, the sixties came along, and i always never, nenever thought of--of--of not opposing the war in vietnam. my father used to talk about, you know, dien bien phu and how, you know, what are we doing over there? i mean, the french have just lost this war. where--what are we doing with advisers there? we're on a very bad path. so i was very much, um, a part of my generation and a part of my--my own upbringing and somebody who wanted to make a difference, but there was--there was never--never any question that i would be involved and that i would then take all those things that i'd gathered as a child, t the discipline, the piano playing,
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the practicing, the way that i chose songs, which was the way that my father chose songs, and i had that back--background in my growing up, which was very much about discipline, and i started to perform at a very--about 4 years old, very early age. walter: wow. wow. um, do you think it's kind of a--you k kno, because you have this position, uh, and this voice, is it a duty to call attention to things that you feel passionate about? i mean, you know, especially given the fact that your--your father, uh, kind of raised you the way he did, or is that just kind of the--the making of a good folk singer? collins: well, it's--excuse me for saying "well." i find that i say it more often than i would like to. there are reasons to develop a way of speaking about things. well, if you're a writer and you write your--your pieces for "the new yorker," then you pay attention to what's going on in the world around you, whatever you
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profession is, and as a songwriter and a singer, i pay attention. i wrote a song about 9/11 that i feel very strongly about. i wrote a song, because the first time i went to travel for unicef, i went to o the former yugoslavia, and i was--the--the man who headed up unicef asked me to write a song about the situation with landmines and with children in the former yugoslavia, which i did. so the "song for sarajevo" came out of my visit to--my two visits to sarajevo and to that part of world. walter: well, so sarajevo, do those images linger with you afterwards, the--the children, the landmines, the devastation? collins: after--after--oh, very--very much. my husband and i--we knew nothing about landmines. they're not--somebody might find a mine from the civil war that hasn't gone off, but, of course, they're very ancient, and the chances of their still being active are pretty--pretty slim,
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but we didn't know about landmines here. we went to sarajevo, we went to dubrovnik. outside of dubrovnik, we were taken to a little school where there was electric. the main concern was educating children about landmines, and unicef had just started a program of education for--for children, a kind of a psychological art program in which they had 7 lessons, and they would sit down and they would draw and paint, and the first 3 or 4 sessions would be nothing but fire coming out of the sky and bombs falling on houses and children running in agony from--from harm, and then by the time they got to the last session,n, they would be wririt, they would be painting flowers, putting themselves in the picture. i mean, this is direct action on post-traumatic stress... walter: mm-hmm. collins: disorder. and these were children. these were children, little children, you know, all ages, and the people we were traveling with in
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unicef, members of unicef, took us to a school, and there was a table at the bottom of this--this halay--hall, rather--and across the table were scattered mines, various kinds of mines. the most recent of which were plastic, and we're talking about a world. we don't know it because we don't live there. in the rest of the world of--of martial conflict, ththere are millions of landmines. of course, vietnam is filled with them--300 million, they think, alone in vietnam. and on this table were scattered all these mines, and the most recent t are made of plastic, and they're designed to look like candy wrappers and coke bottles. unicef has tried very hard to educate all over the world, and thehey've done a beautiful job of it, but still, of course things happen, of course people blow up, and if you've got 300 only, that's very conservative. in one country alone you've got
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millions of these things. yes, well, so the vividness of--of the place and the things that people are struggling with, it's very real. walter: and--and what's great about this story, the example you gave, is, um, somebody who's in the arts who performs, to see how art can help these kids to kind of process and to move from the explosions to perhaps getting past the ptsds. collins: yes, exactly. walter: it's pretty incredible. collins: at the time i was there, i was friendly with the woman who was the president of dc comics. she and i and the state department and----and--and hillary clinton conspired to have dc comics put out a comic book starring superman. now, everyone in the world knows superman, even these children in--in dire straits living in close to poverty levels in many parts of the world. they know who superman is, and so the--the design and the production and the distribution
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of this comic book was something that i was very happy to be any part of, and it was distributed to children and--all over the world and helped them to understand that there were things they could do to protect themselves. walter: explain for us the joy of--of being on stage and just knocking one out of the park and--and the adulationon of the fans and walking off the stage. what's--what's that sentiment like? what's the feeling like? collins: well, first of all, every performance is different because it's always new, it's always fresh. yes, there are sometimes repeated parts of your repertoire, things that you might have sung for 50 years if you're lucky, but there are new things going on, but the event itself is always new, it's always fresh, different people, different date, different time, different place. i also truly believe that music, as in the case of art, can heal people, and i--i consider it a service. i consider the--the stress that goes through getting there a
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service, and when you do get there, you always think you're there for one reason, and then you turn out--it turns out that it's a little different. the other night i was with the--with the orchestra, the portland symphony in portland, oregon, conducted by a young--a 24-year-old, wonderful, wonderful conductor. norman huynh is his name. and the--the orchestra is magnificent. one of the songs that i sang is a song that i wrote about my mother called "in the twilight." she died about 4 years ago, and it is a song in which i've kind of put every loaded barrel i can--i could find about who she was and what her life was like. ♪ she's a lady and she barely knows her name now in the twilight t as she sleeps and her memories chase her down the days of childhood there was music, always music
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and her brothers, there was robebert the captain of a freighter that sailed to china ♪ and i played it with the orchestra, and people came up to me afterwards in tears and they said, "my mother just--" things like, "my mother just died last year," "my mother's in hospice right now." i was so close to my mother, and i--i--i don't find a way that i can sort of mourn her, and the song helped me do that. you never know when you're--when that's going to happen and--with a particular song that you're singing, that you've chosen to sing and that you find healing and transformative. walter: and as you heard from the people there that--that night, obviously, it's--it's a gift to all of us, as are you. i can't tell you how many scratches there were on your albums growing up, but thank you so much. fantastic talking to you. collins: thank you. it's a pleasure to be with you.
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walter: when we come back, more star power working for the global good. she's been called the oprah winfrey of china. "forbes" magazine named chinese journalist and media entrepreneur yang lan one of the world's 100 most powerful women. in china, her name is practically synonymous with entertainment. she's the co-founder of one of the country's largest private media companies, and she's committed to creating programming that encourages the continunuing growowth of chinescuculture andd offering an international platform for cultural exchanges. her signature television show, "yang lan one-on-one" has become china's longest running talk show. in addition, she serves as a cross cultural ambassador for china, playing an important part in beijing's successful bid for
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the 2008 olympic games. a dedicated philanthropist, she served as a unicef ambassador for china and has dedicated her own foundation to the growth of civil society. recently, cctv's may lee had a chance to sit down with the legendary yang lan at the 2015 annual meeting of the clinton global initiative. lee: yang lan, thank you so much for your time. lan: thank you, may. lee: of course, i appreciate you being here. for you, i know that some of the most important issues are about women, you knowow, women empowerment and children''s s causes and health--arareas of health, so tell me what i it is that drdris you to care about these causes that are of global importance. lan: well, thank you. i--actually, i started by thinking of my own show. about, um, 8 years ago, i started a new talk show called "her village," and this is a women's show. so we combined storytelling with topic discussion. well, that's kind of in the nature of a media
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person, right? but i--i was so inspired a about these extraordinary women telling their stories and also fascinated by the topics that we are also engaged, uh, in, and also, it's such a great platform to connect chinese women and with the international communities. so, then, it went on very naturally to be built into a cross media community, both online, offline, traditional media, and new media for women's leadership and the empowerment, and at the same time, we figure out that in this whole process of faster transformation of china, women are sometimes stressed out. they try to manage... lee: a lot. lan: their career, uh, and then family and also the different culture expectations of them, and--and they cannot do it as only one individual. they--it takes a village. also, it takes the engagement and partnership with men so that we can support each other at a family level,
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institutional level, and social level, so that's why, um, 3 years ago, i started her village international forum, uh, for which both women leadership and women well-being are very important issues to be covered. we have internatitional speakers to cover those subjects, to give women information, inspiration, and also building up a sharing community, um, so that their self-generated content also become a part of the dialogue. uh, so this is some of the--the things i've been doing for the past few years. lee: and we do know that women love to share, we love to have dialogue, we love to be able too try to come together as a group. lan: mm-hmm. lee: to try to empower each other. lan: yes. lee: so it's great to hear that in china, that's happening more and more. lan: definitely. lee: um, and there's--it's being received really well by women. lan: yeah, and technology and social media has only accelerated the whole process. during our--this year's forum, for example, within a weeks of
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time, our social media site had more t than 190 millllion hits. lee: wow. lan: well, that's how massive the reaction was. so we are also sending out, you know, free videos on the highlights of the speeches of all our speakers and then organize discussions among ouour attendes as well as our audience, and also at the same time, we're teaming up with the top educational institutions like the barnard college at columbia university, beijing normal university, to curate programs for young women leaders, for their leadership training, for the well-being, self-knowledge, relationship kind o of, you know, training, um, so that they can better adapt and lead the changes. lee: mm-hmm. you were appointetd unicef amba--ambassador, u um, the first chinese unicef ambassador, in 2010, right? um, i wonder, you know, in the years that you were appointed, what kinds of changes have you
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seen, uh, in your work? not just with unicef, but obviously you're talking about the work that you're doing now. um, the country is changing it seems by the daday, right? in so many wa. lan: well, yes. well, the economic changes are very visible, but i think what is more fundamental is about the changes of our m mindset, about people, uh, or in the past, the chinese government was kind of ruling all and being responsible for everything, but then it's the upcoming of the market power and then the civic society which h are forming stronger pillars of the society. uh, so in the year of 2010, my foundations and culture foundation co-hosted the giving pledge dinner with bill and melinda gates foundation. both bill and warren buffet were there in beijing, meeting the top chinese leaders in business and philanthropy. at that time, there were only about the dozen, uh, private--i mean,
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family back--family background foundations. now we have more than 2,000. lee: wow. lan: so this is how eveverything is paced up, not just, uh, in the market and the economic side, but also on philanthropy and civic society building. more than 4 million ngos have been grorowing up for the past decade or so, so it's extraordinary change. lee: and i find that fascinating because i covered the un women's conference 20 years ago. lan: [laughs] ok. lee: and so, social change, philanthropy, ngos, those were still very unknown concepts, right? lan: definitely. lee: verery new. and i remember the chinese being a little bit questioning, like, "what is this all about?" so it's great to see that there has been this sea change in the attitude of philanthropy and giving and charity, right? lan: definitely. i--i remember because atat the time, i was studying, uh, in the graduate
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school of international and public affairs at columbia university. so one night, i got this call from beijing saying, "you have to come back, you know, for a short break because we need you to host the opening ceremony of the u.n. conference on women," and this is by far the biggest international conference that beijing has ever hosted--and, no, that was way before the olympics and things like that. lee: right, of course. lan: so i rushed back, and--and it was a great experience. at that time, chinese people were not very much aware of the very concept of ngo, uh, and through some of the news reporting, they thought that ngo people were kind of a little bit extremist... lee: right. lan: and they could do crazy stuff to catch attention. so actually, they prepared hundreds of sheets in case anything like a naked parade took place, so it just shows how, uh, alien, you know, people felt towards ngo, but now the civic society is really growing, uh, the crowd funding
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on the internet, grassroots community level ngos are really growing very fast, so i'm very happy to see the changes. lee: it is wonderful to see, and--and you have to give credit to social media and how that's inspiring and changing behavior in chinina. lan: yes. lee: right? and i know you've talked about micro-blogggging in china and how that creates a different community of voices to be more expressive... lan: that's riright. lee: which, again, in the past, maybe weren't permitted to do... lan: that't's right. lee: so if you could just touch upon that idea. lan: yes, of course. uh, well, by working in media, especially traditional mainstream media like television, we knew that it was quite elilite-orienteted. you know, there are a bunch of editors and journalists deciding which story goeoes first, but with social media and the internet now, everyone has a place to take their message out and--and give the--themselves their voices,
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and, of course, you--you--you will find a little bit disorientation in the middle of this, but overall in speaking, it's such a--a democratic process of the whole society. soso now you see peoplple are talking about things like the environment issues, uh, you know, the women's rights issues, on the internet quite openly, and you see, um, more and more so a positive interaction between public policy and, you know, people's opinions, and you see ngosos are working with the government, forming this public and private partnership in the environmental monitoring, uh, in the advancement of education, poverty relief, and--and many other things going on. lee: and i think with the youth becoming more aware of these issues, that is probably pushing that forward even more. lan: definitely. lee: with your foundation, the sun foundation, that... lan: sun culture foundation. lee: culture foundation. that's
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obviously an area, you know, of development for--for you to also work on, right? to try to push these social issues and these cultural issues that are important for the future--future generations of china. lan: yes. talking about future impact, nothing is more important and effective than education. what i have found, um, there are two issues in terms of education that i feel that i need to address to. one is that, um, there's not equal access to educational resources from the rural areas to the urban areas, and we found that those children who are coming into big cities with their working parents, uh, from the rural areas, they are the most vulnerable community which don't have access to high quality education. the second problem is that our very definition and understanding of education was very much knowledge and skill-based instead of, you know, liberal arts and--and, you know, critical thinking, nurturing.
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uh, so to try to address through those two issues, i, uh, and my colleagues in sun culture foundation, we developed art educational programs for underprivileged children. we have enabled more than 30,000 children of migrant workers in beijing to have regular music and art classes. we also organized more than a dozen performing troupes for those young kids so that they can--they--they--they sang to president carter when he was in beijing. lee: oh, wow. lan: they could, you know, get on the stage of national performing center theater. lee: right. lan: so a lot of things are really giving those children voices and also give thehem opportunities to realize their potentials. lee: right, and be more creative. lan: definititely. lee: right. yang lan, thank you so much for your time. really, it was a pleasure talking to you. lan: thank you, may. walterer: we'll be right back with this week's "full frame" close-up.
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what happepens when you pair one of the most decorated music producers in the world with a traditional mongolian group? well, the hope is the union will put the group hanggai on the international music map. canadian bob ezrin is a musical genius, best known for producing albums with rock legends like alice cooper and kiss. he e even produced pink floyd's ageless mamasterpiece, "thehe wall," but bob's chance meeting in china with the leader of hanggai has led to this unique collaboration. his task: to meld traditional mongngolian instruruments, the ancient art of throat singing, with the driving electric guitars and the heavy metal edge the band loves. it's a unique sound, definitely worth the listen, that may make it onto your playlist. cctv america's sean calallebs got exclusive access as the band
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and producer gathered in the studio. [men s singing] [m[music playsys] callebs: the two-string lute... horse-head fiddldle... and the unique art of throat singing. [men singing in foreign language]
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it's about as far from mainstream rock and roll as you can get... but the memembers of h hanggai e fifinding eir niche anand making an interernational splash with a blend of ancient mongolian music... and, believe it or not, heavy metal. ilchi: we always performing in every different kind of--of music festival. we play in rock festival, heavy metal, world music... so that's nonot easy to sasay wt kind of music for hanggai,
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because we play a lot of--a lot of things. callebs: and lots of different instruments. [man singing in foreign language] yilalata, a left-hander, picked up a guitar and learned to play the only way he could figure out, upside down. [yilalata speaking foreign language] [man speaking foreign language] [laughter] ezrin: he's--he's my--he's my friend. don't hurt him, please. callebs: many of the band members are from inner mongolia, and the band's roots extend to china's hinterland, and while even their clothes
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scream tradition and metal, as much as anything else, they want to stay in tune with their ancestors. [man singing in foreign language] callebs: hurizha is the group's lead singer. [hurizizha singing in foreign language] [hurizha speaking foreignn language]
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their songs are often about the grasslands, the wind, the environment. ilchi: thahat's a veryry, very beautiful placace, but now w whe write songs and sing a lot of songs is about we want people care of the environment. callebs: a magnificent vast expanse. the musicians in hanggai will tell you life in inner mongolia is harsh. warm summer months are short, winrr drags on as punishing winds war in, driving people to seek comfort in their traditional homes called yurts. but there is also thisiside of hananggai. [h[hurizha sininging in foreign language]
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it was this performance that elevated them to win a popular reality tv show contest in china called "sing my song." members say it really put them on the map in their home country. ezririn: ok [indistinct] callebs: the band is back in the studio recording their latest album. ezrin: ok. >> ok, ok. ezrin: let's go. callebs: they've turned to this man... ezrin: chop, chop. callebs: legendary producer... ezrin: what do you need? callebs: bob ezrin. ezrin: shaka, brother. good morning. >> rock and roll. ezrin: [laughs] yeah. pink floyd: ♪ we don't need no
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education ♪ callebs: as a music producer, ezrin's fingerprints are found on some of rock's iconic classics: alice cooper, "welcome to my nightmare"; kiss, "destroyer"; and one of the all-time great rock albums, pink floyd's "thehe wall." ezrin: when i saw them play and--and just the--this sort of, um, breath of the material and the cross-pollination from ancient t mongolian traditions o modern heaeavy metal r rock. [woman singing in foreign language] it was, like, the weirdest thing i'd ever seen, and i thought to myself, "boy, i'd really love to work with those guys." i like this performer. yeah. ok, so it's take one all the way, buddy. man: whoo-hoo! >> oh, yes. man: yeah. callebs: not long thereafter, a chance meeting with ezrin and hanggai's front man, ilchi, at an event in beijing.
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ilchi: i asked him, "do you--do you want to produce our--our band?" ezrin: a and i said, "yeah, i'd loveve to." [indistinct chatter] callebs: that led to this marriage of hahanggai's music. ezrin: cool. you'll slide them a little bit, right? >> yeah. callebs: and ezrin's magic touch. ezrin: i could live with the dis... callebs: at fader studios in vancouver, canada. ezrin: seeee, she overshoots right here. yeah, that thing. so if we can find a replacement for that, i'll be happy. [woman singing in foreign language] callebs:s: many in the band have little grasp of the english language. man: sorry, sir. i--i--i do not understand. second man: oh, ok. um... callebs: and as for ezrin... ezrin: this is the first time i've ever worked on something where i didn't understand one word, not one. [ilchi speaking foreign language] exactly. yeah. ok. let's go!
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you know, i mean, i've been in the--i've--i've worked in croatia. i could pick up a little here and there, in italy, in france, in spain, you know, but, boy, chinese is, like--and--b-because the inflections are different, too, so you can't even pick up the context. dead, dead. [man speaking foreign language] callebs: so it has developed into an exercise in trust. ezrin: that should be long enough. what they do naturally is really fascinating and brilliant and beautiful. [womoman singing i in foreign language] all i'm trying to do is help ththem do it a little bit t bet, a littlele tighter. [woman singiging in foreign language] first thining s, uh, an acoustic guitar, which became en electric guitar, and then bass and thenen drums, and then fifinally they builtlt it back t to where at its core and soul, it was essentitial mongolian music. [yilalata singing in foreign language]
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but being played in a modern rock context, so for us, the big thing here is to not mess that u up. [yilalata singing in fororeign language] lllleb hanggaiai earned s chops as a live band, playing in front of crowds large and small. [men singing in foforeign language] but recording in a studio is a different process altogether. ezrin: excellent. you're fired. get out. >> thank you. ezrin: ok. callebs: it can be slow and tedious. ezrin: from take 3, it will be, uh, wind o one. ok, can we go? b benny? benny: yeah. [woman singing in foreign language] ezrin: no. stop. [woman singing in foreign language] what the [beep] ben? benny: i lost my clicking. >> there's no sound. ezrin: no sound.
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[man speaks foreign language] carl!! the other challenge in the studio with any band, regardless of where they start, is it--it's an artificial envivironment, right? it's a rom with no windows, and there's no audience, and--and it't's very difficult. [hurizha singing in foreign language] so the big thing about the studio is to try to create an atmosphere where there's enough electricity in the air, and they're excited enough, love what they're doing, and they're enjoying it enough that you do get that performance. [hurizha speaking foreign language] ezrin: let's go, let's go, let's go. ok, we have room for how many? [hurizha speaking foreign language]
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callebs: thehey've all lefininnr mongolia and nowow work and lile in beijing. back home, they've lost the beauty of being anonymous that comes with having your face plastered all over national tv. [men singing in foreign language] [yilalata speaking foreign language] callebs: but they are gaining fans. ezrin: so you--you have to stay here forever, ok? all day today and tomorrow? man: ok. ezezrin: ok? callebs: and with the nuance and experience that comes from working with ezrin... [woman singing in foreign language]
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they all hope their newest creaeation will lift them ofoff youtube and help them work theieir way on to o more and moe plplaylists. if not, ththey are proroud of te road that they followed. ezrin: ok. ok [indistinct] walter: that's it for this week. join the conversation wiwith us on social media. we ae cctv america on n twitter, facebook, and youtube, and now you can watctch "full frame" on our new mobile app available worldwide on any smartphone for free. get the latest news headlines and connect to us on facebook, twitter, youtube, and webo. search "cctv america" on your app store to download today. all of our interviews can still also be found online at, and let us know what you'd like us to take "full frame" next. simply email us at until then, i'm mike walter in
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>> w was it a conscious decision or a m momentary lapse of reaso? how did progress take priority over humankind? how could the desire for a modern way of life that threatens our future be considered a way of life? could it be we are connected to all things in the universe, not the center of it? ththat suburbrbs in los angeles affect the melting ice caps of antarctica? deforestation in the congo affects the typhoons of japan? now, we must face tthe insurmountable challenges for what they really are, opportunities to reinvent and redesign. "e2: : the economies of being environmentally conscious."


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