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incumbent is state senator wendy hopper. democratic challenger jess king. with 7% in the republican ahead 54% to 46%. and in district 32 the republican incumbent is dan kapanke. democratic challenger is jennifer schilling. with 24% in kapanke leads -- excuse me, kapanke trails 49% to 51%. we'll be updating the recall election results as they come in throughout the night. but now, live from madison, wisconsin with the latest, it's "the ed show." have a good night. good evening, americans, and welcome to "the ed show," tonight from madison, wisconsin, where the recall elections for the radical republicans under way. the polls have closed. the results at this hour. in the 2nd district, 49% reporting, republican state senator rob cowles 57%, democratic challenger nancy nusbaum in at 43%.
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in the 8th district, 7% reporting, republican state senator alberta darling 71%. democratic state representative sandy pasch in at 29%. in the 10th district, 29% reporting, republican state senator sheila harsdorf 59%. democratic challenger shelly moore 49%. in the 14th district, republican state senator luther olsen, democratic state representative fred clark. no results on that. in the 18th district, 7% reporting, republican state senator randy hopper, 54%. democratic challenger jessica king in at 46%. in the 32nd district, 24% reporting. democratic state representative jennifer schilling in at 51%.
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republican state senator dan kapanke in at 49%. this is "the ed show," live from madison, wisconsin. let's get to work. good evening, americans, and welcome to "the ed show," tonight from madison, wisconsin. if i was in an arena, i would say it's in front of a packed house. we are just across the street from the state capitol, where all the activity has taken place here for the last six months. it has been a long run to tonight's activity and election. it is way too early to call anything. a lot of the votes that are being counted are in the rural areas of the district.
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joining me tonight, we have just about everybody who's a player in this whole issue. especially the best fans in america. [ cheers and applause ] john nichols joins us off the top tonight from "the nation" magazine. john, early returns. it looks like a good start for the republicans. >> i'd be cautious about that, ed. our rural communities turn their votes in early. they count fast because they have fewer votes. when i look at these districts, one of the things that's very striking to me is that some of the bigger cities, places like baribu and portage which are democratic, some of their polling places are just closing right now because they had hour-long waits to vote. so we have a lot of votes to come in. what i'm intrigued by, though, is that fred clark race. fred, who you had on last night. my sense is it looks like he's doing better than we expected and his numbers look pretty good right now. >> john, when you take a look at
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the six race that's are out there, you need three to get the majority in the senate. but if there were any races out there that you would pick the democrats are going to win this one, they're going to win this one, would it be if i'm correct here in the 18th district randy hopper and jessica king? jessica king should have a good chance at winning that tonight. >> yes. and -- and right now she's at about 46% with much of her best areas in the oshkosh area not in. >> okay. but this is a race. >> it's a real race. >> that democrats are counting on the victory tonight. >> got to have it. >> if randy hopper holds on here, it might not be a good night for the recall. the other expects hopeful victory for the democrats would be dan kapanke, the republican, being challenged by jennifer schilling. how important is this one? >> you can't build to your three without starting with jen schilling. she is the beginning point. and right now she's ahead by about 2%.
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but she ought to win that race by a substantial margin. if she doesn't, then you're right, this night could be a disappointing one. >> now, we have to label two hopefuls in this race. it would be the 8th district in suburban milwaukee, alberta darling, who was a close associate of the governor, and sandy pasch. i mean a boatload of money has been spent on this race right here. over $8 million in favor of the incumbent. this is a hopeful tonight. >> what i'm going to tell you is this race could turn out, when all the numbers are added up, as the most expensive legislative race in american history. not wisconsin but the country. and so huge money's gone in there. and that is the most complicated district because it's actually a district where you have billionaires and people who live in public housing. so precinct by precinct we're going to watch that one through the night. >> the other hopeful victory for the democrats to be the swing, the third one, the seat to get that they're counting on, is the
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luther olsen-fred clark race in the 14th district. in portage, you know, we heard reports earlier today of long lin lines, traffic jams, a turnout that was on the levels of presidential. how important is this race? how feasible is it that a democrat would win here? because olsen has been there for 16 years and sometimes unopposed. >> can i just tell you something? in that district the last time a democrat won that district grover cleveland was president. >> that would be 115 years. >> that's a long time. >> that is a long time. all right. now, just calling it like it is before, i mean, if you were in vegas, you would say that there are two republicans out there tonight that are truly expected to win. in the 2nd district, covering the green bay area, robert cowles, who is leading nancy nusbaum. gilbert brown, former defensive tackle for the green bay packers, got into the fray on
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this one. he did some robo-calls for nancy nusbaum. and our condolences go out to nancy. she lost her mother on friday. and it has been obviously that event has tempered the intensity in the race. but that is one that cowles is expected to win. that's one the republicans are counting on. >> absolutely. now, one thing i want to emphasize, ed, is all of these districts are republican districts drawn by the redistricting ten years ago to be won by republicans and that have been consistently won by republicans over the last several decades. so in all of them the republicans should be in good shape. in some, like the cowles district, that really has a lot of republican turf in it. so that's a tall order. others like the jen schilling district over in lacrosse, that's one that has been trending democratic and should go. >> and the other republican that is expected to win tonight by the oddsmakers, so to speak, would be sheila harsdorf in the 10th district in hudson, wisconsin.
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shelly moore the democrat, the challenger there. so you have the expectations of republican wins. you have the expectations of democratic wins. and you have a couple of real hopefuls for the democrats. >> yeah. >> that's really how it's breaking down in the six. how do you feel at this point? i mean, there's really all the polls that came out before tonight's voting were all over the place. you really have nothing to compare it to. when the turnout came out today, the people we were talking to on the ground were very encouraged. both sides were saying, hey, it's good for our side. and i think it's fair to say that there has been a very sophisticated ground game here in wisconsin for the progressives. and it has been a real financial push for the conservatives. is that a fair -- >> it's been money versus people. and the republicans have had immense amounts of money. the progressives have had people -- and i was up in fred clark's district just about an hour and a half ago, and the
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amazing thing to me was that bowser from sha na na, the rock band, who's got wisconsin ties, was there and he was out knocking on doors in some of the working-class neighborhoods at 5:30, 6:00 to get people out for fred clark. that's the kind of wild passion of these races. and i want to tell you, when i was pulling out of portage, it was after 7:00 and there was a line that went out of the portage fire department, up the stairs, out into the yard and into the parking lot. you had people waiting 45 minutes to an hour to vote. so we're going to be here for a little bit tonight. >> we will be devoting our program to this tonight here live in madison, wisconsin. let's talk more about the ground game that has been out there and how intense it has been. jim dean joins us now. he is the chairman of democracy for america. jim, good to have you with us tonight. >> ed, thanks. >> how would you characterize what you have seen on the ground
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here in recent days leading up to the turnout? >> well, i think intense is a very good word for, that ed. the strength that all of the folks that are here tonight as well as all over the state have shown has really been remarkable. you know, as we've said, these are republican districts, and yet we've seen people coming from all over the place out of the woodwork. i've had the pleasure of being on a lot of these canvasses myself. and the kind of intensity that they displayed, the kind of passion that the folks have displayed about getting out to vote has really been remarkable. and again, these are republican districts. this has always been an uphill battle. it's always been the beginning of something much bigger. but it's really been awesome. >> but it should be pointed out that these are districts that were won by president obama in 2008. correct, john? >> that is correct. >> and these are also districts that were won by governor walker when he won the governor's chair. so it's hard to really say where this is going to go. >> it tells you that turnout
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matters. when you get to that maximized turnout of an obama '08 race you get democratic wins. but you start to fall below that, and these are republican districts. >> let's go now to adam green, with us tonight. the co-founder of the pccc, progressive change campaign committee. adam, what did you see leading up to today's vote? >> well, turnout does matter. and what i saw leading up to today's vote is the incredible grassroots energy. i mean, this is what democracy looks like. absolutely. and you know, there's a big lesson to be drawn from this. we saw in 2010, ed, a depressed turnout in wisconsin and across the country when there was a feeling among democrats and independent voters the democrats weren't standing on principle as much as they could have. well, the wisconsin 14 were just the opposite of that. they stood on principle. they were heroes. and what we saw today and just the last couple months is the grassroots will get the back of people who stand on principle for core democratic values.
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>> as i broke it down, two expected for the democrats, a couple swings and a couple expected for the republicans. your comment on that. >> i think that we have probably a ceiling of four democratic pickups and a floor of about two. something outside of that range would be unexpected. and three is the magic number. and again, a couple months ago nobody thought alberta darling would have a race on her hands. fred clark entered this race in the other district against luther olsen as being very much behind. but again, the grassroots turned out. and again, it's very important to point out that there is a national lesson that will be learned if these races turn out closely or if we have victories. >> what's the national lesson? >> that lesson is that republicans who declare war on working families will be punished by voters. >> gentlemen, i would go so far as to say that this is the first
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real true test of the battle against citizens united. adam? >> that's true. this is a rare instance where people power fought back and we might be on the verge of defeating corporate money. but it's still an uphill struggle and we've got to fight even harder. >> adam green, jim dean, and also john nichols. going to be with us throughout the evening. it's "the ed show," live from madison, wisconsin. stay with us. the results are coming in.
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welcome back to madison, wisconsin, where the coverage of the recall elections continue here on "the ed show" on msnbc. just some generic notes to bring to you here early on. the pasch race is tightening. she of course is taking on alberta darling. sandy pasch, that race is
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tightening. clark trails by 10%. that in the 14th district. luther olsen leading that. also, hopper is up by 500 votes with just 15% of the vote counted. randy hopper being challenged by jessica king. and shilling's lead is starting to widen over dan kapanke in the 32nd district. so that's where we are. sandy pasch. we are being told now that sandy pasch just took the lead. that of course in the 8th district suburban milwaukee, where the incumbent alberta darling, a close associate of the governor, had over $8race. but again, as we are seeing the packer fans out here in
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wisconsin, grabbing on to any morsel of information, sitting on the edge of their seats and standing on their toes here in madison because they have waited for the positive results for their side of the ledger since january. bear with me tonight, america. i can't do this story tonight without having fun with these people. they have been -- they have been so wonderful to be around. i mean, this is the heart of america. these are middle-classers who stand up for what they believe in. and you know what? you know what's great about this tonight? when you see our camera shots of the crowd, no matter how this turns out, no matter who wins here tonight, how thankful we
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should be to be in a country where we can come out and speak our piece and speak our mind. and ironically, that's what this has been all about in wisconsin. giving workers an opportunity to do just that in the workplace when it comes to bargaining. john erpenbach, great to have you with us tonight. senator. >> good to see you. >> good to see you. we are being told now that district 2 has been called and senator bob cowles has won that race over nancy nusbaum. so that was, as we said in our first segment tonight, that was one that was expected to be won by the republicans. your response. >> it doesn't surprise me. that was probably one of the tougher districts that we're dealing with here in the recalls. and nancy worked really hard. obviously had some personal tragedy here toward the end of the campaign. but just the fact that she
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decided to do what she did says a lot about nancy nusbaum. and i'm really, really glad she ran. >> okay. we'll have more from madison, wisconsin when we come back here on "the ed show" on msnbc. stay with us. [ male announcer ] this is the network. a network of possibilities. excuse me? my grandfather was born in this village. [ automated voice speaks foreign language ] [ male announcer ] in here, everyone speaks the same language. ♪ in here, forklifts drive themselves. no, he doesn't have it. yeah, we'll look on that. [ male announcer ] in here, friends leave you messages written in the air. that's it right there. [ male announcer ] it's the at&t network. and what's possible in here is almost impossible to say.
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welcome back to madison, wisconsin here on "the ed show." our coverage of the recall elections in the state. we have one result in. robert cowles, who has been in the state senate for 24 years, has defeated the challenger, nancy nusbaum.
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the other piece of information we have in the 8th district, which includes suburban milwaukee, sandy pasch is leading the incumbent with only 18% of the vote. pasch at 57-43 over alberta darling. but i must say, it is still very early. and we also have in the 32nd district, which includes the city of lacrosse, wisconsin jennifer shilling's lead is now at 53% to 47% over senator dan kapanke. joining me now is senator bob chuck. what's your feeling about what you're seeing right now? >> first of all, democracy is alive and well in wisconsin. on august 9th -- on august 9th the citizens of wisconsin have declared democracy as their territory, and they're holding republicans accountable. i think you're finding that you're going to see some ships
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over the night. but we're doing extremely well. we shouldn't even be in this position given that these are republican districts. >> how strong a republican districts are they? how would you characterize them? >> one of them's been a republican district for 100 years. one of them has been a republican district for 36 years. remember that 180,000 citizens of all walks of life, of all parties, signed petitions saying that they had had enough of the radical agenda, they wanted their wisconsin back. if you hear one thing, you hear it 100 times around wisconsin in an hour, and that is they can't recognize wisconsin under governor walker, the republicans. and this election is about taking wisconsin back. >> great to have you with us, senator. senator tim carpenter. senator, your thoughts on what is in so far. >> well, what i'd like to say, we're experiencing the miracle in madison. we're having the opportunity to take back our own government that in february when walker was talking to the koch brothers, the people are talking now, and they're getting the governor's ear.
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and telling him what needs to be done to pick up some of these senate seats. >> and we are being told now that the associated press is calling the 10th district in hudson, wisconsin. sheila harsdorf has defeated shelly moore. that too was an expected victory by the experts, an expected victory for the republicans. so the two expected districts by the republicans have been won tonight. in the 2nd district robert cowles, who's been in the senate for 24 years, has won and fought off the recall. and also sheila harsdorf, the associated press now calling that. she's victorious over shelly moore. your thoughts on that, senator carpenter. >> that's not a surprise. a lot of things are going to change. as senator jauch had said, there will be ebbs and flows, ebbs and flows. we all knew it was going to be difficult. it would be an uphill battle with the money on the other side and the governor's ties to big special interest groups. but i'm still optimistic that
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we're going to pull out three, we're going to do it. >> all right. this is the longest-serving state senator in the united states of america. mr. fred wilson. senator, what do you make of what you're seeing so far? two down, four to go. can you get three out of four? >> well, it's not over yet. it's not over yet. and i think there's a pretty good chance we will. any victory is a real victory because these are all republican areas. so there's a shift from the republicans to the democrats as a result of this recall. and any victory is a victory. and so we're going to win several victories. we're going to win. and quite frankly, it's the first time in the history of the state of wisconsin that we had this kind of a recall and this kind of shift. we're making progress. we may not win all the way now, but we're going to go all the way in the future. >> and i have to ask you, with
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your wealth of experience and political wisdom, if tonight is not successful for the democrats and you don't get the three, in your opinion what does that mean nationally, if anything? >> well, we've made progress. we have improved our situation as a result of the recalls. and it means that we're going to have to keep working harder and victory will eventually come. i am convinced that we're going to go. and tonight we've made some progress. and you can't take that away from us. we're going to continue -- >> do you ever go into the badger locker room and give them a pep talk? >> i'll tell you -- >> what do you think? >> if i were not doing this -- if i weren't optimistic, i wouldn't be in this job. i'll tell you that. >> you're terrific, senator. great to have you with us. your thoughts. now, you have talked -- and you're from a rural area. what's happening here tonight? >> well, we're beginning to see the rural people wake up.
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but just a beginning. what we have to do is begin to build the ward by ward, neighborhood by neighborhood, organization that lasts 365 days a year all across this country. that's what has to happen for people to be able to beat money. it's a tough sell. people have gotten involved that have never gotten involved in republican areas. but we need to continue this. after tonight win or lose we need to keep fighting, keep organizing, and outorganize the republicans because we know they're going to beat us on money. >> and how confident are you you can get three tonight? >> we're cautiously optimistic that it's going to happen. >> senator, thank you so much. we've got more coming up on "the ed show," live from madison, wisconsin. stay with us. it's coverage of the recall elections in the badger state.
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welcome back to "the ed show," in madison, wisconsin. the recall coverage continues here on msnbc. two of the four races have already been decided tonight. in the 2nd district bob cowles has defeated nancy nusbaum, the democrat. and also sheila harsdorf in the 10th district has been declared the winner by the a.p. over shelly moore. so with four races to go here's
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where we stand. we are told now that randy hopper and jessica king are virtually tied in the 18th district. that is one that the democrats are hoping to win big-time. also, jennifer shilling leads dan kapanke in the 32nd district. so as it stands right now, the republicans have won two of the races that they were expected to win and the democrats are either tied or slightly leading in the two races that they are very hopeful to win in this. and of course we are also told sandy pasch is leading alberta darling, but still a lot of votes have not been counted in that district. joining us now is jim palmer, who is the executive director of the wisconsin professional police organization. good to have you with us. and i'm introducing you tonight to three people that have been with us on this wisconsin ride and been through all of this. >> that's exactly right.
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>> what are you going through tonight? >> well, obviously, we're all hopefully optimistic. you know, law enforcement officers, many law enforcement officers tend to be conservative. but they know the difference between right and wrong. and what governor walker and this republican state senate and the legislature have been trying to do, they recognized as wrong. i can't tell you how many members i've had approach me personally and say that they've been lifelong republicans but never again. and so i'm very optimistic that tonight the middle class is going to reclaim our state. >> what do you think this is doing to the entire state? i mean, there's a lot of districts out there tonight that are not engaged. it's down to six districts, and then there's going to be two more next week. what do you think the rest of the state is thinking that's not involved in this vote? >> i think those who aren't involved tonight wish they could be. and their time will come. and tonight is just one step closer to, again, reclaiming our state. so we're very optimistic and i think we're going to have some good results. >> jim, thank you so much. joining us now is mail-in mitchell. he's the state president of the
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wisconsin firefighters. >> hey, ed. how are we doing? >> it's great to see you. >> good to sigh again as well. >> i'd better just realize that i've become pretty good friends with this guy. and some people are calling him senator mitchell. i don't know. >> too much pressure. too much pressure. >> you have done a fabulous job leading your troops. as you went into this vote today, what were your thoughts? >> well, you know, i've been thinking the same thing since day one. one thing is when there's an emergency firefighters, police officers, we respond. and right now the house is on fire and we're here to put that fire out. but we want to know, we want to know, and we're asking governor walker, we're asking administration, at what point did firefighters, nurses, teachers, police officers, snowplow drivers, rock county workers become the problem? >> my colleague chris matthews on msnbc doing "hardball" says how come they always come after you guys?
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>> firefighters? >> i mean the people you that just listed. the professions. the middle-class professions. it seems like all of a sudden you're the problem. >> i believe they thought we were an easy target. but obviously, we proved them wrong. >> how important is it tonight for the democrats to get the seats that they need? >> it's important. we need as we call a firewall in the fire service. we need a firewall there. we need a stopgap to stop what's happening in the state of wisconsin. we need somebody to come and make sure we take care of the middle class. because again, i'll say it again. this is not just about unions. this is about the middle class and this is about our fight. >> you know, i have spoken with firefighters in new jersey, firefighters in ohio. it's like it's a profession that's being attacked by all these republican governors. >> right. they thought we would sit idly by. that's why we're exempt currently. but we're not going to sit idly by while our other brothers and sisters will be treat sod radically different. but as a wise man once said, the cure to the ills of democracy is more democracy. that's what you're seeing right now. >> great to have you right now,
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senator. >> you got me convinced. >> tony schultz is a farmer. tony, where are you from, again? >> from athens, wisconsin, three hours north of here. >> three hours north of here. >> yep. >> what brings you to madison tonight? >> it's a big night for the history of the state and the future of the state. we suffered a big defeat in january when this administration was sworn in. and it was a big hit to rural wisconsin. it sent a signal to agri-business and to factory farms that they're going to take over the agricultural landscape and push aside our awesome history of family farms and sustainable agriculture in this state. but this election tonight, these recalls, are historic. we're going to push back. our rural communities, our small schools there that are the center of our rural communities, took monster cuts. they are the centers of our towns. but we are pushing back. our own town pushed through a referendum that passed 2-1 that gave me a lot of hope that the wind is at our back. >> i have to ask you, tony schultz, you just told our
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audience that education took big cuts. did i hear that correctly? >> yeah. >> alberta darling said that no, there haven't been cuts and things are working. that's what she said today. >> i like cory mason. he's an assemblyman in wisconsin. i like his assessment. he called the cuts inhumane. in athens, a small rural district where we care greatly about the democracy of public education, everyone's involved, the school board is very democratic, we would have lost -- we would have lost 14 of 44 staff members. 14 of 44 staff members. that's what these cuts mean. it's decimating. >> tony, thanks for joining us. our coverage from madison, wisconsin continues here on "the ed show." stay with us. ♪
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welcome back to "the ed show." as our coverage continues of the recall elections here in madison, wisconsin. and in the six districts throughout the state two of the six have been called for the republicans and joining us now is john nichols, washington correspondent of "the nation" magazine. john, great to have you back. you've been giving us some great insight through all of this. what we are seeing right now is sandy pasch in the 8th district, suburban milwaukee, leading alberta darling. this is labeled as a democratic hopeful. how do you read this one? >> well, i'm a little surprised here because sandy pasch started out weak and then as some of these numbers have come in she has opened up and kept that lead going. now, that is a complex district, though, ed, because in that district it's so divided.
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you have very democratic precincts, very republican. so as each new one comes in it's going to bump it one way or the other. but my sense here now is that pasch is doing better than we thought she would be at this point and we've got a possibility there. a real possibility. >> all right. senator randy hopper and jessica king. this one obviously very close. but it is one that the democrats need. >> they definitely need it. jess king lst200 votes the last >> 163, i believe it was. >> i believe you remember it well, my friend. >> yeah. so they've been down this road before. >> yeah. >> and there you see the numbers. it's 50-50. and king is up with 7,464 votes to hopper's 7,368 votes. hopper coming under some tremendous criticism personally. but he has worked very hard. in fact, he made the comment that he has lost ten pounds in the last couple of weeks, he's worked so hard here. but jessica king, what is her
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story there? where is the opening? >> well, look, she is very, very strong in oshkosh. oshkosh is -- it's a union town but not a particularly liberal town. she was the former vice mayor out there and on the city council. as those oshkosh returns come in, that'll decide whether she wins this race. >> the 14th district, portage and baraboo, you've got luther olsen and fred clark. they are locked in a tight one there as well. this is one that is hopeful for the democrats, but certainly it would be making history if he were to win. right now olsen leads with 54% of the vote to 46% of the vote and in the neighborhood of 3,000 votes. 20,632 for olsen. 17,702 for fred clark. what does this mean? >> well, look, there's a city there, baraboo, that the last i checked it still had not got its numbers in. baraboo is a very pro-clark town. that's where he's going to have to get huge numbers out of there.
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uld still close this up and pull ahead. >> john nichols, washington correspondent of "the nation" magazine. our coverage continues here in madison, wisconsin. stay with us. we're right back with more. [ male announcer ] heard this one? listen to this. three out of four americans don't get enough vegetables. so here's five bucks to help you buy v8 juice. five bucks. that's a lot of green. go to for coupons. you can count on us. energy is being produced to power our lives. while energy developement comes with some risk, north america's natural gas producers are committed to safely and responsibly providing decades of cleaner burning energy for our country, drilling thousands of feet below fresh water sources within self contained well systems and using state of the art monitoring technologies, rigorous practices help ensure our operations are safe
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and clean for our communities and the environment we are america's natural gas. two of the four -- two of the six races have been called for the republicans here in wisconsin. the latest news out of the 18th district, jessica king has opened up a 600-vote lead with just over 20% of the votes counted. we still have a long way to go. our coverage continues on "the ed show." stay with us. my doctor told me calcium is best absorbed in small continuous amounts. only one calcium supplement does that in one daily dose. new citracal slow release... continuously releases calcium plus d
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from madison, wisconsin our coverage continues. and this programming note. we will continue with coverage into "the last word" with lawrence o'donnell tonight. let me bring you up to date. two republicans have been declared the winner in six of these races tonight. as expected, sheila harsdorf and also senator robert cowles. but we have more to report. 39% reporting in the 8th district. sandy pasch is leaving -- leading alberta darling 56% to 44% with 39% of the vote reporting. let's go now to senator lina taylor with us tonight here on "the ed show." senator, good to have you with us. >> it's great to be with you, ed. >> what is this -- this would be considered a huge victory for the democrats if sandy pasch were able to pull this out. not even half the vote has been counted yet, but it is a good margin of a lead for her right
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now. your thoughts on that. >> i'm actually rather excited. my last check i had not received a call from the milwaukee election commission. there are ten wards there, about 10,000 votes are there. although we don't expect 10,000 people to turn out. the kind of numbers that we've seen there is really encouraging. in one ward 56 people voted in the last supreme court race, and last i knew 1,002 people voted. >> this, the heavy turnout in this district, you think is favoring the democrats? >> i definitely do. as a matter of fact, the numbers you just reported, on behalf of pasch, when you don't have the milwaukee numbers in on top of that i think it will allow her to do exactly what you started to say. maybe it was a freudian slip. leave alberta darling in the dust. >> lena, what can you tell us about sandy pasch? >> you know, the first thing i'll tell you is that she's a nurse and she's been very passionate. she did a lot of work that helps with mental health parity and so
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on and so forth. but i think the thing that goes to her character, this woman broke her hip when she ran for state rep, and she was out still knocking on doors in wisconsin. i'm like a woman who has that kind of tenacity, who's dedicated to children, who's a nurse, and who's been dedicated to trying to really address the issues that exist with mental health, issues in our state, is really the kind of person that we need in that house that's over there. >> we have been reporting -- >> the people's house. >> we've been reporting today and characterizing this 8th district race as the crown jewel for the democrats. how close is alberta darling to governor walker? how close an associate? >> you didn't know? it's alberta walkers darling. >> that close, huh? >> pretty close. she's rubber-stamped pretty much everything that he's done without closely examining it. as the co-chair of finance she's rubber-stamped his budget. this is really also i would say
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the people speaking out about walker's agenda through this race. >> well, she also -- she also had $8 million, correct? >> she did. she also -- >> back in that election. >> she also raised almost 1.5 million herself. so this has truly been the race that the republicans don't want to lose. >> mr. barker, peter barker, the state representative, great to have you with us tonight. you have been the fire and brimstone representative. your thoughts at this hour. >> well, i'm so thrilled at the numbers of people that have come out and the passion and the enthusiasm. you know, what's -- what's at stake is wisconsin values. you know, ed, collective
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bargaining began here in wisconsin. education has always been a top priority in wisconsin. health care for women, for seniors and children is vital in this state. and all of them have taken a huge hit. but most importantly has been wisconsin democracy. and that's what's at risk here. and that's why it's so exciting to see the interest level, the enthusiasm. and i am still hopeful tonight. >> peter, thank you for joining us. and we want to report now, in the 32nd district, jennifer shilling is leading dan kapanke 55% to 45%. with 54% of the vote reporting. 54% of the vote reporting, shilling up by ten percentage points. 55% to 45%. [ male announcer ] this is the network. a network of possibilities.
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our coverage continues here in madison, wisconsin with some very enthusiastic fans who are awaiting the results here. two republicans have been declared the victors tonight, and four other races are still up. but we want to take you now to the 18th district, the fond du lac, oshkosh area. randy hopper, the incumbent, is leading with 79% of the vote reporting. hopper in at 51%. jessica king at 49%. that of course is one of the races that the democrats have been counting on. it's not over yet. 79% reporting so far. i want to talk to the crowd. what do you make of the results? great to have you here tonight. >> thanks for having us, ed. i know everybody appreciates you being here because it's so important to take back this vote. right now for the democrats. especially also for rural wisconsin. we've got a lot of natural resource issues going on, and we
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need protection for those issues. not big agribusiness. we need to protect small farmers and our public waters. >> what do you make of the results so far tonight? >> well, i'm optimistic because i think we can do it. i think we can bring it back home and get these republican senators out that we don't need anymore that aren't doing anything for the wisconsin middle class. >> thank you. your thoughts on everything tonight. >> it's been wonderful. thank you so much for being here. i'm optimistic. i'm hoping. i'm hoping, everybody. please, let's have the republicans go on down. we need them. >> why are you so enthusiastic about this? and how long has this been burning in your belly? >> we have been burned by governor walker. and -- >> is it walker? or is it the republicans? what -- i mean, it's like a personality fight now. >> it's all of them.
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he's the king. and everybody's just following and rubber-stamping. >> are you confident? >> optimistically confident. yes, we're going to do it. >> all right. and how about you? >> oh, i think that governor walker has just decimated public education. and as a teacher i have just been so down since he's become the governor. and i'm hopeful that this is a start to winning for democrats and winning for -- >> where do you teach and what do you teach? >> i teach fifth grade in northern wisconsin. >> northern wisconsin. how far north -- >> 280 miles. >> 280 miles. >> i think that's your husband back there saying he came 280 -- oh, your friend. good. you're a teacher, and you say you're down. it's had a real emotional effect on you. tell us about that. >> well, it has. in our elementary school we've had to get rid of the art
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program. so the -- one of my friends' daughters, a second grade daughter, is devastated about it. >> have you had cuts beyond the art program? >> yes. we've had cuts. constantly we've had cuts. and then now with this it's just going to be more devastating. we've had cuts every year. and i would say that now it's just going to be worse, much worse if this continues. >> we will continue our coverage here on msnbc with "the last word with lawrence o'donnell." i will continue to report here from madison. just to give you a flavor of the anticipation that is in the crowd tonight, two republicans have won, three democrats are leading. there is still hope. it's in the balance. it's going to be very tight. our coverage continues. that's "the ed show" from madison, wisconsin. now let's go to lawrence o'donnell with "the last word."