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between congressman paul ryan and homeless ohioans in a soup kitchen. they were aloud once he pitched in for dish duty after that exchange. he was not alone. he had his family in tow. >> this is my daughter liza and sam and i've got other ones, charlie. >> like paul ryan, mitt romney also in ohio today. he is holding a pair of rallies, an indication of how critical the buckeye state and its 18 electoral votes are. president obama in virginia where he'll be preparing for the next campaign. the obama campaign has another tv ad out. it's narrated by none other than morgan freeman, the voice of vee a and the voice of god. >> every president inherits challenges. few have faced so many. four years later, our enemies
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have been brought to justice, our heros are coming home. assembly lines are humming again. >> and before you start sending your e-mails, the morgan freeman, of course, played god in "bruce almighty," just so you know. the president landed in virginia a few moments ago. we're told he has no public meeting plans. kristen welker joining us. krist kristen, good saturday to you. >> good saturday to you. >> the president hunkering down for debate prep. what are you hearing about what he plans to do a little bit differently this time? >> reporter: well, craig, after that first debate, top obama campaign advisers said they were going to review and readvise their strategy. they're not giving us a whole
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lot of specifics about what that means but if you look at the first debate which was describedpy many as lackluster, they say they didn't seem to even gauge with mitt romney and wasn't aggressive, it stands to reason that's what they're going to work on, getting the president to come up with shorter, sharper, crisper answers to some of mitt romney's criticisms and be more aggressive in his own right. his greatest challenge is to not come off as being profess sorial. you can imagine over the next few days that's what they're going to be focused on. some things will stay the same. his debate partner will be john kerry and the coaches on the sidelines will include top obama campaign strategist david axelrod as well as consultants
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bob barnett, bob crane and anita walker. >> i can't remember where i read thr or heard this but someone was basically arguing the last time around it was difficult because the president is not one of these guys that takes criticism very well. is he listening to a larger group of folks? is he being more receptive to suggestions? >> well, i think he's going to have to be. if you've talked with people who worked with past sitting presidents they say that is the greatest challenge when you're preparing for something like this because the person is, in fact, president, not used to getting a lot of criticism. in this case we know that president obama watched that videotape of the debate and he wasn't happy with what he saw. so he will certainly need to be open to criticism. also i'm sure a number of people
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who have been working with him on this re-election effort, so i think that's safe to assume. >> really quickly before i let you go. the shot that was fired, the campaign office in colorado, again, folks were inside. fortunately no one was hurt. any reaction from the white house today? >> they are not reacting at this point except to confirm the fact that one shot was fired. no one was injured. that's the good news here. they're referring everyone essentially to the denver police. i can tell you today denver police are saying that shot came from a car. they're also reviewing surveillance video. at this point they don't have any suspects in custody. but here's one important point, police. denver police say they're not aware of any prior threats on the obama campaign office but obviously this is something of great concern. >> kristen welker traveling with
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the president. we're now getting final verdict on who told the truth in the vice-presidential debate and who was not. fa fa writing, quote, the biden/ryan debate was marked by some spirited claims that didn't always match the facts. pushed the factual envelope. good saturday afternoon to both of you. let's talk about benghazi and the debate over security measures taken before the fatal attack there. take a listen. >> shouldn't we have a marine depatchment guarding our ambassador in benghazi? a place where we knew there was an al qaeda cell with arms? >> this lecture on embassy security, the congressman here cut embassy security in his budget by $300 million below what we asked for, number one.
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so much for the embassy security piece. so the vice president accusing them of cut 3g $00 million from the security for the embassy. true? >> they did request nr money for embassy security but it was also going for construction and maintenance, so not security alone. in the end it was $264 million that was passed. that was for fiscal 2012. but, again, not just security. also for construction and maintenance, so we said that biden was exaggerating. >> lori what about biden's claims that he said we weren't told that they wanted more security? >> we don't know if word made it to the top.
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we can't say whether north biden knew. certainly they requested more security and it was denied. libyan officials put the blame on a deputy assistant secretary of state. >> edward isaac, each side said it can be trusted to hold don middle-class taxes. take a listen. >> the middle class will pay less and people making a million or more will begin to contribute slightly more. >> there aren't enough rich people in small businesses to tax them for all their spending. the next time you hear that, watch out, middle class. the tax bill's coming to you. >> edward isaac, how does a voter make sense of this? what's the truth on taxes? >> well, that's one of the essential questions of the cam paint that's what the obama
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campaign is saying about this. but what the romney/ryan campaign says about the obama plan is they have not done anything to say where the spending would be cut, to say where they're going to be doing things to reduce the deficit, and that's going to fall on middle-class families so it's a question of philosophy here, whether you think there is enough and other things he says he'll do to cut spending in the budget to make up the money that would be lost in revenue from that 20% across the board tax cut or whether you believe that the plan that president obama is saying to say that there should be cut for middle-class taxes, extension for bush tax cuts for those making under $250,000 and not for others and that that
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money should be used to make up the revenue there. >> lori, there was also a dispute add to whether ryan would have voted for plan that would have raised out-of-pocket cost. take a listen. >> who do you trust on this? a man who introduce add bill that would raise it $6,400 a year. knowing it, passing it, and romney saying -- >> that stay tiks tick was completely misleading. >> those are the fact, right? >> this is what politicians do when they don't have a record to run on. >> so prp says ryan's plan would have cost $6,400 more. ryan calls that completely misleading as you saw there. who's right? >> well, it is misleading. ryan -- this $6,400 claim that biden makes pertains to an older plan from ryan he had introduced to change medicare to turn it into a program where seniors in the future would pick a plan, a private plan from the -- a new
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plan. they're essentially a subsidy to help provide the plan. ryan has tweaked the plan. his latest plan is a lot more generous in terms of subsidy and how they grow over time. the $6,400 is no longer relevant. that's something the congressional office did find in the analysis of the older plan that seniors would end up paying $6,400 or more. it was an decade or more into the future. but, again, he has now change thad plan. it's a lot more generous. cbo hasn't had enough detail. hasn't been able to do enough analyst on the new plan. >> we could spend 30 minutes on this easily on each debate. >> easily. >> i want to thank both of you for coming on and attempting to
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cyst throu sift through some of. this lori robertson and edward-isaac dovere. coming up, you might not know -- you might not know his views on evolution or rather creationism, and he's not alone. he's not at all alone in the halls of congress. >> here's our framework. lower tax rates 20%. we forgo about 1 preside$1.4 tr >> we're going to hear from team romney next. then a little bit later, how your choice of barbecue sauce says a whole heck of a lot about who you'd pick for president. we travel to the tar hills state for the real horse race poll. you're watching msnbc. ah.
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mitt romney is preparing for his next debate against barack obama by rallying voters in battleground ohio. speak just last hour in portsmouth, romney pushed his amount bishs tax plan in what he says is a progrowth policy. >> he's going to raise taxes on the middle class, he's going to raise taxes on the small business. make this commitment. i will not raise taxes on the middle class of america or on small business. >> with us now from washington rnc surrogate and romney supporter ann marie. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> it's the nonpartisan tax policy center. it says eliminating -- i want to make sure i get this right.
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eliminating all itemized dedekzs. mortgage interest, charity, getting rid of all of them would pay for just a 4% cut in tax rates, far below his 20% target. why should they go for a plan that experts say doesn't add up? >> well, craig, you know, there's that study. you heard what governor romney said. he mean as what he said. he lowered taxes 19 times in massachusetts. look at barack obama's record. he has actually raised taxes. so i think you get back to a very clear choice between who's going to raise taxes and who's not going to raise taxes. >> ann marie, a lot of folks have said when you start talk about cutting tax rates by 250%, a lot of folks would like to
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hear specifics. a lot of folks would like to hear, well, if you're going to make dramatic cuts, how are you going to do it? when you don't hear how you're left to studies by nonpartisan groups i like the joint committee on taxation. >> governor romney has offered specifics. you heard vice-presidential nominee ryan offer specifics. what i want to hear is specifics from actually president obama who has had four years, you know, to improve the state of the economy and we're still at 8.1, 8.2 and he's the one who actually said in the debate he would raise taxes by letting tax cuts on the middle class expire. so i think there's a really clear choice between the two of them. >> itpends on your definition of middle class as well. president obama talked about it in his weekly radio address. take a listen. >> today auto sales are the high
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effort they've been in four years. gm is back. ford and chrysler are growing again. >> one out of every eight jobs in ohio dpeenld on the auto industry. how does romney counter that argument? >> by dining what he did in the debasement they heard unfilter and what he's talking about, his plan to create the economy and improve the economy in ohio. ask coal miners how important this is for him. i think ohio is an interesting place to watch for romney and ryan. they're on the defensivdefensiv. they're listening to what they had to say. they've gotten their attention and you're seeing it in the polls. the polls have really tighten add lot.
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the last debate, the first debate with romney and obama really upended the opportunities for us in ohio. so you're seeing that. they're on the offense and it's interesti interesting. you u saw the obama campaign announce that clinton and springsteen are going to be campaigning for them in ohio. to me that seems they have to pull out the big guns now to not seat any ground. >> i mean governor romney, this is his fourth day in a row in ohio. i think both campaigns have been pretty clear how important the buckeye state is. i'll ask is there a path to 270 for you guys without ohio? >> look. i don't think they've written ohio out or excuse me off. it's still their path to 270. that's why they're there. because there's excitement on the ground there. you're seeing vol -- >> can you win the presidency
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without ohio? >> yes. i believe so. i've not done the private polling. look what they're doing. they wouldn't be there if this wasn't a winnable state for them. one of the things you should look at, take a look at maine. there's a chance you're seeing an erosion of support for obama in a very blue state where one of them is actually pulling higher than ohio. this happened in '08 with nebraska. >> before i let you out of here, we saw them talking about abortion and he knew of no abortion legislation that would be part of his plan and ryan said he wouldn oppose it except in the cases of rape and incest and life or death of a mother. >> as a woman, i saw no daylight from what he has said all along. women have a lot of choices to make in this election.
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i think people are trying to make a bigger deal out of it than this. they've got to make choices on job, on energy, on taxes. and when you look at what romney offers women and obama offers on jobs it's two different choices. >> what does governor romney offer women? i'm just curious. >> look at the jobless rate for women. >> i thought you were talking about women's rights. >> there ooh's a lot of pro-life women out there, craig. >> thank you so much. >> michl's big bird comments in the debate have spawned a movement of sorts. details on that coming up. up next, miley cyrus teaming up with friends to talk politics. we'll tell you what they're after. you're watching msnbc. ♪ [ male announcer ] jill and her mouth have lived a great life. but she has some dental issues she's not happy about.
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as well. check it out if you haven't already. cut it in half or smoke it for hours on end. either way, if you are in north carolina, people love it. south carolina too. it's also a key indicator of how they will vote in the tar hill state. first, though, bhie are some of our leaders in washington still doubting evolution? bill nye the science guy. that's right. you're watching msnbc, the place for politics. ♪ [ female announcer ] pop in a whole new kind of clean. with tide pods. just one removes more stains than the 6 next leading pacs combined pop in. stand out.
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♪ ♪ good saturday. i'm craig melvin. here's a quick like at some of the top stories making news right now. residents in westminster, colorado, are celebrating the life of jessica ridgeway. she's the 10-year-old girl whose dismembered body was identified yesterday. she was last seen eight days ago wha walking to school. her body was found in a park
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wednesday six miles from her home. the party boat started to sink last night after sitting something in the san francisco bay near alcatraz. the impact tore open a hole in the vessel but the coast guard managed to rush in and save the day. they rescued all 22 folks on board. fortunately no one was hurt. and the space shuttle "endeavor," truly a sight to behold there, continuing its slow careful trek through the streets of los angeles. it's headed for its retirement home at the california science center. the political fight over evolution is still evolving. this week two republican congressmen are grabbing headlines for their comments on the subject. both are on the commission kmit tee for science, space, and technology. the latest remark, todd akin. you remember him. he's running for the senate seat in missouri.
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>> i take a look at both sides of the thing, and it seems to me that evolution takes a tremendous amount of faith. i don't see it as even matter of science because i don't know if you can prove one or the other. >> all right. that was todd akin. a tape also surfaced this week of georgia republican paul browne talking about evolution. >> all this stuff i was taught about evolution, embreeology, big bang theory, all that is lice. it's lies to try to keep me and all the folks who were taught that from understanding that they need a savior. >> with me now, bill nye, ceo of the planetary society, and, of course, the science guy. good to have you, bill. >> good to see you, bill. >> good to see you, craig.
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>> todd believes it -- what goes through your mind when you hear things like that? >> well, first of all, i as a science educator have failed. i've failed. >> no. >> evolution was discovered. it's not something people made up. it was discovered and the evidence for it is astonishing. it's overwhelming. charles darwin back in his day took flowers, he took roses. >> they're props. i love it when you bring props. >> he compared different varieties of flowers and he came up with a very reasonable explanation of species and he used the same techniques that flower breersd use today, a little tweezers, magnifiers and he studied the ova, the eggs and pollen of flowers. i mention this only as an example. what do these guys do, i ask myself, when they take their children to a conventional natural history museum and there are natural fossil dinosaur
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bones. one of the problems these guys brought up is the age of the earth. i say that as an age-old question. this is my perception of their words. they each assert that the earth is 6,000, 10,000 years old, something like, that but i'm sure they both, if they don't have smoke detector in their house, they evenly probably been in hotel rooms with smoke detextures and they rely on a tiny piece of am or reese yum. it's one blue on the more than protone yum. you make an or reese yum in a nuclear reactor. and you make an or reese yum because you understand how protons and new trons work and by understanding it you infer that the earth is 4 1/2 billion years old. that's science. that's fact. you can't close your eyes and
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make them not true. >> here's the thing. we were talking about this. this is nothing new. rick perry, michele bachmann, i think we have clips from both of them. they're republicans that both ran for office and talked about it. >> it's a theory. it's got gaps in it. in texas we teach both creation and evolution because i figure you're smart enough to figure out which one is right. >> questioning the idea of evolution there is a controversy among scientists whether evolution is fact or not. >> is that true? is there controversy? >> no, there's no controversy among scientists. there's controversy. >> what do you think the motivation is here? >> this is always a troubling thing. i've got to tell you that our ancestors have made these these
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discoveries. the way we understand it. to set aside those discoveries bee trace the best in us. it bee trace the best use of our brans wherever you might assert those came from. so this is very troubling. furthermore, what are the three worship words this fall? jobs, jobs, jobs. if you want jobs in the united states, you have to have technical innervation. that's what sets us worlds apart. we're no longer the best manufacturer of certain goods. >> right. >> we are the technological leaders. if you want, for example, a smartphone, you inventors from the united states and these people understand science. >> this is what governor romney said about evolution. this was in 2007 and according
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to "the new york times," quote, i believe that god designed the universe and created the june krers and i believe evolution is most likely the process he used to create the human body. there's a view that tries to bridge science and religion. i know you have said in the past you are an obama guy, you're voting for the president. what do you think of governor romney's view? >> it's okay. >> it's okay. >> as i said, i'm not going to address anybody's religion. this is not what i'm talking about. what we do in science and critical thinking, you have a claim, an assertion. in this case, the earth is 6,000 years old or 10,000 years old. i can show any reasonable right that is not right. that's wrong. that's a wrong claim and it's off by a factor of a million. furthermore, evolution is fact. we can prove evolution to you. >> we're going to -- >> if you want to deny that stuff, you're setting aside what
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make hughes mans so good. >> we're going to leave it there. >> thank you. >> bill nye, say this and i mean this from the bottom of my heart. this has been the most educational four minutes in cable news this week. i appreciate that. thank you so much. >> while you're voting, everybody, take into account climate change. >> that's a separate segment. thank you, bill. do appreciate you as always. bill nye, the science giant coming up the romney campaign love this headline from the buckeye state. are we covering it? we'll show you the headline. we'll tell you whether it will translate at the polls there. there's the headline. first, though, from ohio to north carolina where the divisions between politics and barbecue overlap. this is msnbc. i guarantee you that woman did not plan on having that kind of a shot of her eating on national tv. [ male announcer ] feeling like a shadow of your former self? c'mon, michael! get in the game! [ male announcer ] don't have the hops for hoops with your buddies? lost your appetite for romance?
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can't seem to get enough of those photos of a young guns -- young guns. it's time for the "trail mix." the latest issue of "time" shoes paul ryan lifting weights. the pictures released hours before the vice-presidential debates. they were originally taken back in december when ryan was a finalist as person of the year. since then they've inspired a spoofl twitter handle. they've even created their own fake dating profile on cupid. eliza, sam, charlie ryan threw out t-shirts before the start of that event. the comments about big bird have inspired plans for a million muppet march.
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the march planned for november 3rd at the national mall in washington, d.c. it was created by two guys who wanted to show their support for public broadcasting and apparently have a fair amount of time on their hands as well. big bird, of course, has been a star of the campaign trail in the days since that debate, even being featured in the obama campaign ad. here's one you may have never thought of. food. in the swing state of north carolina, the food to watch and if you are lucky taste is barbecue. nbc's kerry sanders explains it all. >> reporter: craig, it's neck and neck in this race. neither can claim a likely victory. it's effective of another debate in this state. which tastes better, the eastern carolina or the lexington-style
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barbecue. in the western part of north carolina there's a barbecue that moefrts of the nation is concerned with. pork shoulder smoked for ten hours over oak and history and smothered in a tomato-based sauce. >> this is our barbecue sauce. but to the east here in the tar heel state, the pig is simply halved and slowly roasted. >> and my job is chop, chop, the meet. >> and the vinegar barbecue, salt, sugar. >> it's tangy. >> like the barbecue when it comes to politics -- >> i love north carolina. i do. >> reporter: this is a state of two minds. >> i think imee going to go out on a limb and predict that we're going to win north carolina. >> reporter: four years ago in the eastern part of the state where vinegar barbecue rules, obama won.
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prior too that it was bush territory. >> we clearly need a new direction. the current administration doesn't have what it takes to get us where we need to get. >> this state is neither blue or red in part because of transplant like doug who moved here from new york. >> you're asking about the analogy with the barbecue whether it's vinegar-based or tomato-based. the thing i notice here is people are kind of steeped in the way they've always done it. very traditional. >> but even tradition can be upended. you're. >> 74. >> caller: you're black. >> yes. >> reporter: you saw the first black president electnd and you're saying i'm not sure. >> reporter: you're not sure. >> no. >> reporter: so there are no stereotypes. >> no. >> reporter: here, the politics are mostly red, just like the
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sauce. >> well, they know the best barbecue and the best politics. this is where you find it right here in lexington, north carolina. >> i think the taxes are going to con usually go higher. and it's going to cost you. >> cost me, yes. >> and make it harder to do what? >> survive. >> last yeerg president obama won by just 14,000 votes. >> who are you going to vote for? >> obama. >> who did you vote for before? >> obama. >> why are you voting for him again? >> because he's doing a good job. >> reporter: come election date i will go well into the evening like a midnight buffet. >> thank you. that light. the man suggest thad the lead over the free world put his man pants on. up next we go back to ohio for team romney is blanketing the buckeye state today. we're going to get perspective from both ends of the bellwether
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now, for a little trail dust on a saturday afternoon where we play you some sound that you might have missed from the campaign time laying out his jobs plan. he also spent a fair amount of time accusing the current administration of not doing enough to get the economy going. all with the help of a power point presentation. take a listen. >> part of the reason we are in the mess we are in is because democrats and republicans messed this up when it comes to fiscal responsibility. the problem is we can't keep kicking this can down the road. but look at where we are now since the president came into office. look at now knowing that this is the problem he inherited, what he has done. your share of the debt has gone up to $51,000 for every man, woman, and child in america. a 45% increase in the individual
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burden of debt to every single american. we're heading in the wrong direction. this is not the path we need to be on. we need to fix this problem before it tackles us. >> we decided not to show you the power point presentation, but that was paul ryan in youngstown, ohio, just a few hours ago. and as the battle over the battleground state of ohio intensifies, the romney campaign is trying to parlay new national poll standings into gains in ohio. as we've been telling you, the republican nominee is in the state for two campaign events today. the question at this point is can the romney campaign erode president obama's lead there? joining me now to talk about it, david skonik. he was at that rally this morning. reporter for the cincinnati enquirer. good afternoon to both of you. >> thank you. >> the romney campaign reportedly shifting campaign resources from another battleground state, pennsylvania to ohio. david, again, you are at that
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rally in youngstown today. do you see anything in the crowds that shows a new wave of support for the republican ticket? >> actually, i do. i think that there is -- ryan has actually been able to really garner a lot of enthusiasm during his events. and this morning i tracked about 14,000 people to a place that is a democratic stronghold right there in downtown youngstown. i do see people paying a lot closer attention to this race. and i'm seeing there is some movement. now obviously northeast ohio is super democratic stronghold. i think -- i mean -- >> and for folks not familiar with the geography of ohio, you're speaking primarily of cleveland? >> cleveland, akron, canton, warren, youngstown, which are all heavy democratic towns. in fact, i think that cuyahoga county, which is what cleveland was back in '08 went 70% for
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obama. and this is his stronghold. we actually had a recent poll that had obama up 16% in northeast ohio while he was up at that point, 5% statewide. >> the romney campaign has released a new tv spot critical of the president's handling of the economy. take a look. i want to talk about it on the other side. here it is. >> the question ohio families are asking is who can bring back the jobs. under president obama, we've lost over a half a million manufacturing jobs. and china has passed us in manufacturing. >> so here is the thing. ohio's economic picture based on my understanding is that it's better than it is in many other states in this country. the unemployment rate in the buckeye state 7.2%. that's lower than the national rate. it's down more than 3% since its recession high of 10.6 in january of 2010. paul, is ohio the right place to hit the president on jobs? >> well, that's been the challenge. craig, that because it runs
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counter to what the republican governor john kasich has been telling ohioans. and of course he is taking credit for the job numbers and the economy in ohio. and yet here comes romney saying things are bad and elect him to president -- as president to get better. and so we've got this -- he's got this problem with the leader of the republican party in ohio. >> paul, something that i found that i have found particularly striking over the last week or so, you guys have started to release some information with regards to early voting in that state. for folks who haven't been following ohio as closely as everyone else, what seems to be the trend with regards to early voting and governor romney and president obama? >> well, the early voting started on october 2nd. and not coincidentally, michelle obama was in cincinnati area that day.
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but there has been a huge turnout. at least in the southwest ohio area. and i think in other parts of the state as well that there has been a higher number than in 2008. >> yeah. >> and i'm not sure what that means in terms of who is turning out the vote. you see both candidates urging their supporters to vote early, and then drag somebody else to the polls as well. >> and craig, that actually also is we had weekend voting back in 2008 as compared to this time. and we're actually seeing larger turnout of early voters this time around than we did four years ago. >> david, my understanding is there was a survey and found that nearly one in five respondents have already voted in ohio, and that president obama is winning them by a 63% to 37% margin. that's according to the nbc journal marist poll. if those numbers are true, and
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we have no reason to believe they're not, what might that tell us what we might see on the first tuesday in november in the buckeye state? >> well, i think that's not to discredit any sort of poll, but i think that is probably a little skewed. >> okay. >> even here in where i am in youngstown, last time around early voting did sway heavily in favor of obama, according to polls. and there were considerably more democrats that were voting early than republicans. but, yeah, i think the key really has become a major focus on early voting. and by doing so, yeah, you -- if those numbers are correct, i think that is an obviously an excellent indicator for a second term for obama. >> david skolnick, and paul kostyu from the cincinnati enquirer. when when we talk about the battleground states, we absolutely love to talk to folks who cover them every day.
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thank you for your time. >> thank you. we're going to talk to an expert on ohio's election about the 11th hour changes that could affect who actually gets to vote this november. that's in our next hour. coming up, mitt romney rolling across, you guessed it, ohio today. we'll get a live report from our correspondent who is on the road with the republican nominee. and president obama is in the commonwealth today. he is in virginia. coming up, why virginia is so important this year, and why it's also so very hard to predict. that make me smile. spending the day with my niece. i don't use super poligrip for hold because my dentures fit well. before those little pieces would get in between my dentures and my gum and it was uncomfortable. even well-fitting dentures let in food particles. super poligrip is zinc free. with just a few dabs, it's clinically proven to seal out more food particles so you're more comfortable and confident while you eat. so it's not about keeping my dentures in, it's about keeping the food particles out. [ charlie ] try zinc free super poligrip.
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