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good morning, digging in for combat, the massive white house pr machine for the fight to put hagel at the top spot. the obama's administration's baitle plan is beginning to take shape. >> chuck hagel is the leader that our troops deserve. he is an american patriot. he enlisted in the army and volunteered for vietnam. to this day chuck bears the scars and shrapnel from battles he fought in our name. >> hagel himself, the former senator defending his own record in a exclusive interview with his hometown newspaper, telling "lincoln general star" the distortions of my record have been astounding. will the white house make the sell on capitol hill? a place where even senators in
the president's own party remain divided on this pick. >> i believe the president should be able to have his team, but the advice and consent of the senate is an important responsibility and we have to do independently and there are questions that need to be answered. >> chuck hagel is his own man. he wears no man's collar. he will continue to be his own man. that is the kind of person you want as secretary of state when you're in the room deciding about war and peace, you want somebody to give their honest opinion. >> then the bigger question, what do president obama's choices for the second term cab nat signal about how he's going to govern over the next four years. >> these are people who have been around washington and comfortable with one another. they are all well within the mainstream essentially within the 40 yard lines. >> we call the top four cabinet posts, state, defense, treasury and justice, the president normally gets members from both parties coming out saying we're behind whoever you pick.
okay? that -- this is not a normal case. >> joining me now is ron fornier, it's great to have you here. here we are less than 24 hours after knowing officially that chuck hagel is going to be appointed and run through the confirmation hearings. the first read from nbc is out, there's no margin of error from this point onward, hague el's support at best in the senate is an inch deep and that inch would get him the votes he needs but it wouldn't take much for the bottom to, well, fall out. in your piece out today, hagel faces rocky nominations because he lacks allies on capitol hill. he wrangled with the demeanor that suggested he was too good for them and their views. is that his biggest achilles' heel, the fact he was his own man and didn't suffer lightly? >> it's why democrats are a
little bit -- although i think they'll eventually get behind the president. i think at the end of the day of the i agree with first read, barring something we don't know of already, he'll be confirmed for several reasons. >> you say the second term question about president obama in your piece, why didn't he do more to build the relationship required to govern in an era of polarization. a lot of people would look at this pick, well-admired vietnam vet to come into the post. and see that as someone who's trying to meld the aisle and blur the lines. why is there such a distinction that's being drawn up by the right over this pick? >> well, the right doesn't like anything the president does. her hoping to damage the president politically. if they can make it tough and stop hagel, it would damage the
president politically. i don't think it's going to work. i think hagel will be confirmed. on the broader personal issue, any -- there's one of the big differences between a good president and great president is his ability to be able to find common ground with enemies and find a way in which making his mark on history, making his mark on the country can be seen as a win also for the other side, to keep enemies close if not closer than your friends. that's something bill clinton was good at and fdr was great at and lincoln was good at. reagan arguably was good at it with tip o'neill. barack obama had a hard time with that. he doesn't like the back slapping that's required in politics. it's something the public admires in him and one reason why he is so popular generally with the public, that he is seen with a man with a lot of self-confidence and comfortable in his own skin. in this town, any political environment, you have to get to know the other side and
empathize with them. it's not one of his greatest ranks so far. >> you point that out today in your piece, learning how to smooz could be a difference between a good and great presidency for president obama. who f how do you think he's doing so far? >> it's a struggle for him. we saw with the negotiations with republicans specifically speaker boehner, granted the republicans aren't giving an inch and they are very hard-headed and aren't willing to accommodate. but past presidents have had just as tough if not tougher rivals to go up against. instead of running towards boehner and running towards his enemies up on the hill getting to know him. the small favors in politics, visits to the white house, sitting down for drinks, invitations on air force one, those are all small things and to the general public seem petty but they mean a lot in relationships. and the president was very good
in springfield illinois, if you talked to people that worked with him as a state senator, he was great with working with lawmakers on both sides of the aisles and had a regular poker game with lobbyists and lawmakers. can't imagine him doing that here in washington. >> it's the little things that go a long way. thank you, sir, i appreciate it. >> i want to bring in the political reporter for the "washington post" and former pennsylvania governor ed rendell and political analyst for nbc news and republican strategist stewart. as we talk about the powers that be, i want to go over exactly who's for and against this. we can go ahead and show the different personalities that are supporting hagel's nomination. jack reed, harry reid, carl levin. as we look at those against it, we've seen lindsay graham, john
cornyn, ted cruz. how are things going to fall out as people come out of the wood work in washington, d.c.? >> i think we first have to wait on confirmation hearings and see where people line up. initially you have had a tepid response from lots of democratic senators and people like chuck schumer and kristen gill brand who are concerned about the things that senator hagel has said about israel. ultimately down the line, democrats will wind up behind this nominee. it wouldn't look good for this president to pull out of this nomination for hagel to go down and democrats are mindful of that. i do think one of the things that's interesting about this pick, it's no one's happy, democrats aren't chairing this and republicans aren't chairing this. but he is certainly stirred the ire of both sides of the aisle and also ignored something that
a lot of progressives and liberals were looking for this president to continue and that is a legacy of diversity with these top four picks, the big four of the cabinet being attorney general treasury secretary of defense, and secretary of state. and so far it looks like there's going to be less diversity, at least in some of the top picks. we'll have to look at how he fills out the rest of the cabinet going forward. >> we'll talk more about that in a second. i want to talk about john mccain. a lot of people were looking forward to exactly how he would come out and post on the issue of chuck hagel go to secretary of defense. i have serious concerns about positions senator hagel has taken on a range of critical national security issues in recent years. that's his most recent statement. however, back when he was running for president, he was quote the as saying that he would make a great secretary of state if john mccain were to pick chuck hagel to appear in his cabinet. is that because now it's a reality that chuck hagel is up for the most aopposed to the
imagery when he was running for president? >> we're getting to the point where it's a possibility and it could happen. they are looking at the toe talty of all of this. mccain has a great deal of respect for hagel and tremendous service in vietnam. that in and of itself doesn't qualify or disqualify him as the position of defense secretary. what people are looking at, particularly republicans, hagel prided himself on speaking outside the mainstream. those are a lot of those comments will be controversial, specifically his opposition to the troop surge and specifically also his inability to stand with our greatest ally israel and support for unconditional talks with terrorist leaders and his refusal to support sanctions with iran. these are positions that do not -- they certainly fly in the face of what's best for america and our foreign policy and doesn't show strength on our foreign policy front.
there's tremendous concerns for potential secretary of defense with those kind of ideas. >> alice, you make a good point about the fact there's been vocal opposition from people asking for specific apologies over statements he made in the past. he did come out to apologize to an insensitive statement he made 14 years ago in regard to an ambassador openly gay and getting the post and what it meant. one thing i want to ask you about is the response to incoming senator tammy baldwin, she appeared on "an drdrea mitcl reports". >> i plan to ask questions and give a thorough review and be fair. i do want to speak with him particularly about his comments 14 years ago to see if his apology is sincere and sufficient. i want to hear how he's evolved on this issue in the last 14 years. >> through this hearing, will he be given the opportunity to put
all of these things to rest? he gave that interview to the lincoln journal star, his hometown newspaper, hit social media at the same time that his nomination went out, that he was upset that his views and record has been distorted at such great length. do you think this will be the time for people on the hill and people around the country to get a real idea of where he stands today? >> sure, i think he's going to do great. he is a terrific human being, first and foremost. that's the criteria we should look for. and that's going to come out in his testimony. and in the meetings he's going to have around. the human rights campaign, the number one gay political fund raising organization in the country has stated publicly just recently that they forgiven chuck hagel and believe he's evolved in his views on gays and lesbians and issues important to the lgtb community. the president of the united states is always had the right
to appoint people that he's comfortable with. he won the election. the test for confirmation should be is there any major disqualification. there isn't any. there's confusion about his record. i heard our previous panelists say he's got a problem on israel. he doesn't have a problem on israel. he's devoted to give israel $38 billion in aid over his career in the senate. he's been a strong supporter of israel. in terms of iran, he was against unilateral sanctions but strongly for and has supported multilateral sanctions, the type that are really starting to have an effect. let's take a deep breath and listen to the secretary hagel as he answers tough questions and he'll do great and he'll be confirmed. >> as we look at the second term of the president, this is the legacy term to cement what he's done already in the next four years. one thing that we have for david brooks, why hagel was picked.
referencing the long game of this. chuck hagel has been nominated to supervise the beginning of this generation long process. he probably wants a decorated war hero to boot. do you think that is the bigger calculation as we look at the long-range plan of why the president would go ahead and pick chuck hagel. >> i do. i think david hit the nail on the head. hagel has said he thinks the military spending is bloated and this is a terrific opportunity for someone to get in and do the military spending cuts that the president wanted all along. that's, i believe, another strong reason why the president supports him and that way he can get in there and get military spending cuts. david brooks also pointed out this is one of many positions that the president is going to have to look at other ways to boost education spending and spending in other areas. but certainly hagel as a
decorated war veteran will be someone who is a great voice and face for the military but at the same time, he has not been quiet about his desires to cut military spending. >> our power panel, thanks, ed rendell and alice stewart. thank you. i'll speak with the former national security advicer brent skocroft. gabby giffords and her husband mark kelly announcing a new plan to fight back. we'll spell to one of the heroes to one of the days in tucson. >> can gun control activists take on powerful nra? tweet or facebook your comments.
tucson preparing to mark the second anniversary of the mass shooting. there are several new developments to talk about in the fight today to curb gun violence. first off, gifford and her husband mark kelly announcing the start of a new args aimed at getting washington to move on gun control. they say they want to promote a national dialogue and raise funds to fight the gun lobby. this comes after the couple visited newtown, connecticut, saying that massacre prompted them to take action. >> when it can happen to children in a classroom, it's time to say -- >> enough. >> i have a gun, gabby and i are both gun owners, we are strong supporters of the second amendment. but we've got to do something to keep the guns from getting into the wrong hands. >> you'll recall that 9-year-old
christina taylor green lost her life in tucson. her mom is featured in a new ad by mayors against illegal guns. >> my 9-year-old daughter was murdered in the tucson shooting. i have one question for political leader, when will you find the courage to stand up to the gun lobby. whose child has to die next? to every mother, we cannot wait. we have to demand a plan. >> michael bloomberg, who is behind the gun control group talked with msnbc's quts morning joe about the honest difficult fight ahead. >> nobody is trying to take away your gun or right to go hunting or target shooting or have protection in your home. simply they are trying to have reasonable things so people aren't killed and you saw this woman talking about her 9-year-old daughter. every parent sits there and thinks, if it was my kid -- >> joining me now from tucson, patricia maisch. we really appreciate you making
time for us this morning. as we talk about the anniversary of what took place there in tucson two years ago, groups like the brady campaign to prevent gun violence are calling for a day of action. this comes two days after sources told the "washington post" that vice president joe biden's task force could propose measures like universal background checks and track the movement of sale of weapons to a national data base as well as strengthen when people have been talking about, the mental health checks and stiffen the penalties for carrying guns near schools and giving them to minors. as someone who lived through tucson, do you think we have moved forward and do you feel confident enough that congress is going to do something to take action now? >> i don't think we've moved forward nationally. we're doing our best to move foertd forward. 20 little martyrs in newtown had the effect that christina green didn't have dying on a sidewalk
and veronica sullivan didn't have dying in a theater. it's a shame that we had to get to 20 little martyrs that anybody started to pay much more than local attention. >> you talk about the country not being able to move forward and a lot of people would say gun right advocates have done a good job of stopping forward motion on this with pressure coming from their side. a coalition of gun advocacy groups are planning a preinauguration gun appreciation day, encouraging gun owners to show up in large numbers. meanwhile, 34 kids, 544 adults have been killed just since the newtown shooting in gun violence across the country. if those numbers, those staggering losses of human life are not enough to work against the gun lobby groups like nra which has a purse of $300 million, what is it going to take? you've referenced the newtown
shooting, 20 little martyrs, is that really the catalyst that we need to see as a country? >> i hope it's the final catalyst of little children being murdered. the gun lobby nra and gun manufacturers in my opinion they are saturated in the blood of those innocent children. and most of our legislators have blood on their hands. and i'm hoping, my gosh, if this doesn't change it, what will? we're going to fight the good fight. if i don't continue to fight for this, then i need to be ashamed of myself. not everybody can take up the fight. some people have been so emotionally wounded that they can't, but i can and i must continue to fight. i hope everybody will go to demand a plan that agrees that we need to have some sensible gun reform and sign up there. let the gun lobby and nra know
what the american population feels instead of the administration of the nra because most of their members, 74% of the nra members feel there should be sensible gun reform. >> we had christina taylor-green's mom in the last hour talking about the efforts. she has mobilized along with her family to make sure christina was not lost in vain two years ago. i want to play what she had to say. take a listen. >> we just want sensible gun control. we want to come up with a plan where everyone is rirped to have a background check, that military style weapons do not have to be owned by the average person, and that we come up with a mental health care plan. >> as we talk about patricia what needs to be done on a federal level nationally. what has been done in your community of arizona in the last two years that makes you feel that not only that community has
done something to move forward but that can be used as an example for elsewhere? >> well, unfortunately i don't think much has been done at all. our state legislator during the -- right after the shootings decided that it was appropriate to name a state gun. that seemed like a slap in the face. we have a buy back -- gun buy back today by one of the city councilman and he's gotten so much resistance that the nra says he can't destroy those guns that the state of arizona that's a law that he has to resell them to an authorized dealer. you know, it is absolutely crazy. i used to think of arizona as the mild, mild west. but you know, it's just a shame that even our local legislators, state legislators can't find the moral turp tud to do something important for the children and
the population in arizona. >> tucson shooting survivor patricia maisch, thanks for making time for me, i appreciate it. >> thank you, thomas. >> coming up, the hell no caucus, no on immigration reform, no on new spending. republican congressman weighing in on the divisions in his own party. and a lottery winner poisoned to death with cyanide just before he was set to cash in his million dollar picture. and the wedding crashers, a bride and groom and hot air balloon. wait until you see this, the fairytale ending taking everybody by surprise. did you know that as we age our need for protein increases, yet many of us don't meet our daily protein needs? that's why there's boost® high protein nutritional drink. each delicious serving provides fifteen grams of protein to help maintain muscle and help meet expert recommended daily protein needs.
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>> bob kerrey saying chuck hagel will confirm himself an ally to israel if confirmed. iran's foreign ministry says it will improve relations. the biggest critic saying he's hostile to israel but soft on iran. national security advicers are fighting back, called him quote, a man of unshakeable integrity and wisdom who has served his country in the most distinguished manner in peace and war. joining me now is one of them, former security adviser brent skowcroft. there's an effort to show the real chuck hagel. you are a long-time friend and say he is very sound and thoughtful mind about him. but what do you think will be the toughest uphill battle for him to get through the
confirmation that makes him u likely suited to have this job? >> i think the toughest part of the battle is that he is clearly a republican and fairly conservative republican, nominated by a democratic president to serve in a democratic administration. so that will will disquiet republican senators and democratic senators, i think it's an outstanding choice and it demonstrates great courage on the part of the president. i think he'll do an outstanding job. >> the republican brand has been certainly a little bit damaged in recent weeks but chuck hagel is saying he's eager to take on critics, especially those on the right telling those in his home state and paper there, "the lincoln journal star", he was happenty to sets the record state and as tounded by the
distortions of his record. those that have come out to say he is not a friend to israel how do you think the hearings will eliminate any of the m misperceptions that have been played out so far? >> you can't eliminate all of the miss per inspections, but i think he is a an outstanding record in two terms as senator. he knows the department of defense in a way that no other secretary ever has. i believe he is the first one ever to serve as secretary who will have been an enlisted man. >> that's correct. >> he's been in combat. he understands that aspect of war fair in a way that no other secretary has. he has -- he has served in the
veterans administration so he understands how to deal with former soldiers. he has run the uso so he understands how you help soldiers in -- i mean, he's just immensely qualified for the job. >> sir, does chuck hagel's appointment to this ultimately mean a break from the neocons that may have been left over from george w. bush and his administrations? >> well, i don't -- i wouldn't put that in those kinds of terms. chuck hagel is a thoughtful person. he comes to his conclusions by analysis, not by knee jerk reaction or saluting any particular color. and i think that's why the president selected him. i think he'll work very, very closely with john kerry, who is a man of a similar thoughtful
nature. and i think it's a powerful team. >> former national security adviser brent skowcroft, thanks, we appreciate it. >> february 15th is the x date as one bipartisan group when the government will hit its borrowing limit and when we'll see the next big government showdown over the deficit itself. the republicans have been saying they have leverage in the upcoming debt ceiling debate. but a growing body of evidence hidden in plain sooigt suggesting republican leaders are coming to -- may not be able to execute it. sir, it's great to have you with me this morning. what happens to the leverage that republicans said they had coming up in the next fight? is perception really not reality? >> no, i actually think they have a great deal of leverage. it's not just the debt ceiling but the sequester and the
continuing resolution that funds all of the government, all of which hit within basically 60 to 90 days. i think that does give that and plus, i think the public knows there needs to be serious spending cuts and entitlement reform. we're on much firmer footing than before and much more united as a party. it's up to the president to make pretty serious concessions. >> is the boehner rule going to be in place here, the boehner rule being every dollar raising the debt ceiling will require one dollar of spending cuts over the next ten years. do you think john boehner can deliver on that to his party? >> i think he absolutely can deliver. he delivered on it last time. i think he'll be able to do it again. this is actually a fight with republicans not only anxious for but needs to happen. the president has presided over four $1 trillion deficits in a row. never presented a budget that any member of his own party was willing to vote for. the democratic senate hasn't produced a budget at all in three years. come on, it's time -- revenue
portion of this has been settled in the fiscal cliff deal. i cooperated with the administration on that, a lot of my colleagues did as well. i think we've shown a great deal of good faith. it's time for the president to come across and get serious about the spending cuts and reform he said is necessary. >> does that mean if the boehner rule goes into in effect that this deal would mean some type of review monthly? every month at raising the debt limit? >> no, i actually think that's a very short sided way to do it. i would hope the president presents some sort of solution that's much longer term than that. but we managed to do both budget and debt ceiling deals before. we've done a fiscal cliff deal. we need to give ourselves breathing space but that's going to take really serious spending cuts from the administration. those things are on the table, not just through the debt ceiling and through sequester and continuing resolution, i would hope the president put things on the table that he put on there in the summer of 2011
and more recently things like to change like looking at raising gradually rates of eligibility and means testing. there's really important structural changes that need to happen to give the country fiscal stability. but the aadministration will have to stand up to its own party and produce bold ideas and frankly be willing to work with republicans to get the job done. >> one thing i want to show everybody is politico having this front page profile, the hell no caucus, backed up by the conservative group the club for growth. congressman from arkansas cotton saying, that he would have voted both speaker boehner plan b on millionaires in the final tax hike and vowed to vote against raising debt limit in two months, absent the massive cuts the president opposes. he voted against gun control, immigration reform.
how can they govern with so many members that are determined to show up with concrete -- to say no? >> i haven't read the piece and i have a lot of respect for tom cotton. he served in america combat, an awfully good american. to the point, i personally think it was a mistake not to have supported john boehner's plan b. would have given us the leverage we needed and would have walked off with a better deal than we got. going forward on the spending fights, republicans are united. honestly the president has said himself these things need to be done. he just never has been willing to specify it. on debt ceiling, the president is asking for us what he wouldn't give george bush. he voted against raising the debt ceiling himself when he was in the senate and talked about it being a moral imperative to deal with debt. now it's time to live up to the words and standards he laid down as a united states senator. let's see what he's going to put on the table to deal with the
debt. otherwise he's not going to get republican votes. >> congressman tom cole, we appreciate your time this morning. >> thank you, thomas. >> women rule, new hampshire's governor, maggie hassan talks about the all female delegation in her state. first a small ohio town in the spotlight and not for anything they are too proud of, after an alleged rape making headlines there and a scare for the school district. we'll bring you up to speed. . and cut! very good. people are always asking me how we make these geico adverts. so we're taking you behind the scenes. this coffee cup, for example, is computer animated. it's not real. geico's customer satisfaction is quite real though. this computer-animated coffee tastes dreadful. geico. 15 minutes could save you 15 % or more on car insurance. someone get me a latte will ya, please? ♪ many hot dogs are within you.
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>> we're here as individuals, we've had malik since he was 8. he's always been a part of our family, always. even to this day and the problems that you have in society today, too many people want to share the good times and when individuals and family members run across difficult times, right or wrong, they want to bail. >> joining me on the phone is nbc's ron allen, who is in the area at the school. bring us up to speed. the classes are back in session. but what do we know about the threat going out? >> reporter: it was something the student saw on social media that referred to shooting and school and the rape case in steubenville and called his parents who called police and called the school. they put things on lockdown because everybody there is on edge and jittery and tense because of this whole case that's been since august although it caught the national attention the last couple of
weeks or so since more videotape and pictures and other things have appeared on social media about the case, causing people to pick sides. there have been threats directed by activists at town officials and police saying if they don't arrest more people than the two young man who are now defendants in the aeld case, that they will hack into private accounts and expose personal information. there's a real climate that some feel the town is under siege. when the school incident happened today, people didn't really want to think twice. they just locked things down and parents lined up to take kids home. as for the case itself, the trial is scheduled to happen february 13th or so next month. but the defense attorneys are giving every indication they want to move things out of steubenville and let the emotion get out of the area. the two teenagers are accused of sexually assaulting this girl
during a series of parties in late august, a lot of students were around and pictures were taken. only two have been charged. authorities have confiscated ipads and phone and looked at a lot of video. they concluded only two people actually committed the crime although there are certainly other kids there who did things and didn't stop it. but a lot -- in the community and until this trial happens and gets resolved, it's a small town and everybody knows everyone else and this very sensational case is hanging very heavy on it. >> nbc's ron allen reporting for us. thanks so much. coming up we shift gears and take you to the granite state where we talk about women ruling in new hampshire, from the head of the state to the d.c. delegation, much more after this. with the spark cash card from capital one, sven gets great rewards for his small business! how does this thing work? oh, i like it! [ garth ] sven's small business earns 2% cash back on every purchase, every day! woo-hoo!!! so that's ten security gators, right?
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as you see there. this is the first picture of her emerging. she returned after this month-long absence due to the stomach flu, a concussion, and then a diagnosed blood clot. she was greeted with a standing ovation, a football jersey with the number 112, the number of countries she visited as well as a football helmet because washington is often "a contact sport." states are often called red or blue. new hampshire has become the first pink state. new hampshire has the first only all female delegation. two in the senate, two in the house, and a female governor. joining me now is new hampshire governor maggie hassen. it's great to have you on with me today. as we talk about this, four women in congress, you as the governor, not to mention a female statehouse speaker and a state chief justice. explain to all of us what's in the water in there in the granite state that's getting so many women clekd elected. >> well, first of all, thanks for having me on today, thomas. it's great to be with you. i think it's a mix of things in new hampshire. we are a very inclusive and
welcoming place because we are also what i like to call an all hands on deck kind of state. we value volunteerism and citizen participation, and we're a small rural cold place where a lot of granite so if you are willing to work hard, we're willing to take you, and so we have a long history of people working together regardless of gender and we also have a very large statehouse, as you may know. 400 members for our small state. there are lots of opportunities for women and men to get involved, and prove their competence and learn about the political system and move from there. >> as we look at politics on a national level, we have this record number of women in the new congress. when we look at this dichotomy, there are 16 states that have no women in congress at all. from your vantage point as a female governor, state of new hampshire there and what's taking place, what advice would you have to encourage more women to join public service?
>> well, i think it's really important that women understand that there is a place for them in public service. you know, all the research shows that when you have men and women at the table whether it's a corporate boardroom or in government you make better decision because you're bringing a variety of perspectives and experiences to the table, and that's really, really important. of course, you can't get involved in elected office, though, if you don't run, so one of the things i really encourage women throughout the country to do is find out how they can get involved and how they can run for office, and i think it's more accessible than most women think it is, and i would really encourage them to do it because we need, again, you know, we need all hands on deck in the country and in every state right now. >> all right. that's a great segue to this because there has been a lot of talk about whether hillary clinton would run for president in 2016. a report in politico this week said the democrats are in search of a woman in 2016 to run for president regardless of this.
is it time for a woman to run for the oval office, and if not hillary, do you think it might be someone like you? i have a long friendship with her and president clinton, and i'm a big fan. i'm delight she's back at work, and i know the rest of the country and new hampshire is too. i think it's really important that as we all focus on moving forward as a country and in the state of new hampshire i'm obviously focused on our particular challenges that we just make sure that as many people as possible get involved in the political process and run for office. i think we'll see the next couple of years people at the national level, people who are interested in national office getting a sense of, you know, their own sense of timing and what the issues are that are before the country and how they can contribute. >> so does that mean that you -- does that mean you would or wopt
consider raising your exposure to run for federal position? >> i am very focused on the state of new hampshire right now. we have a lot of challenges. we have a lot of goodwill, and we're really focussing on making a stronger, more ininnovative state in new hampshire. that's where my focus is. >> it's great to have you on today. we really appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you. >> that's going to wrap things up for me. see you back here tomorrow at 11:00 a.m. eastern time. now with alex wagner comes your way next. advisor should focus on your long-term goals, not their short-term agenda. [ woman ] if you have the nerve to believe that cookie cutters should be for cookies, not your investment strategy. if you believe in the sheer brilliance of a simple explanation. [ male announcer ] join the nearly 7 million investors who think like you do: face time and think time make a difference. join us. [ male announcer ] at edward jones, it's how we make sense of investing. i'd like to thank eating right,
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