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assassination of mike mclelland, shows 20 times inside hi home. 3,293 people killed by guns since the massacre at sandy hook elementary school. yesterday, they released the recommendations of the $1 million on school safety. among the many recommendations, arming teachers and erecting fence around entire school property. the study recommends bulletproof windows, because doors and windows are easily exploitable, and warns against exposed hinges, which school should consider welding to prevent tampers. it goes on to lament such inthinkable tragedies. even as the nra spent a million on its, quote, national school shield study, the organization has simultaneously flexed its
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considerable muscle to ensure that no meaningful gun safety reform comes out of congress. they have largely been abandoned, the once bipartisan and broad support for background checks seems to be withering. they're even trying to neutralize a gun trafficking bill. with the nra using all of its available resources to stop safety reform at the national level, president obama is making a last-ditch effort by going to the places where change is actually happening, the state level. today he'll be in colorado where a new state law bans magazines over 15 rounds and institutes university background checks. on monday the president will stop in connecticut where the stay law is expected to pass a stricter ban joining mess is
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ryan grim, nbc policy analyst ezra klein of "thes "the washington post." and former national press secretary for the obama campaign, ben la bolt. thank you for joining me. ryan, if colorado and connecticut can do it, why can't congress do it? >> congress has more republicans. >> and some red-state people. >> now, if both chambers were controlled by democrats, it doesn't mean they would be able to move this through. even if something is 9 to 1, the 1 often votes on that issue, whereas the nine don't. of that -- very few of them are actually going to go to the polls and make their decision.
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they're going to go out and vote, so even on an issue that's 90/10, you can actually lose votes by taking the popular position. >> why is that, ezra? there's not 90% in this country for anything, right? what has happened that the nra is proposes an apocalyptic vision, and people are sort of laying down and taking it? >> first i'm happy we got into the political science so quickly. you have a very, very intense minority against gun control, and you have a regtively blase, that answers the question. in connecticut, for reasons that i don't think we need to repeat here, the 90% was very intense. gun control was a voting issue. it was very literally a life or
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death issue. the same in colorado after aurora. that is not true in every district in the country. you don't see that movement. but that said, i think there is more movement that people are giving credit for. it looks to me like there will be a deal on background checks. it's whether or not we will keep records of them, which is -- >> which is a huge part of it. >> it doesn't undercut the entire thing. i've talked to a lot of gun control people, and the arguments you get on whether or not that invalid yates a background check is pretty mixed. people say it makes it worse, but doesn't go all the way in the other direction. straw purchasing, a lot of the other trace dat that, if we could get crime down, if we don't do the bigger stuff, if we could get the ability to enforce these crimes effectively, that would be a huge deal. i think we'll get more than people quite realize right now. >> katty, what has surprised me
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is the conspiracy theories and how they have taken root, really in a substantive way. jeff duncan, and mike all mccall are asking the gao to review ammunition purchases by the homeland security department, because they think, as does sarah palin, that the u.s. government is trying to stockpile ammunition. these are elected members of congress. you combine that with this resistance to a gun registry or any kind of database, this notion of the government grabbing guns is really a legitimate theory in the has of congress. >> if you look at that 90/10 split, you have to ask yourself, what are the 10% that don't want universal background checks? what's motivating them? there has to be an element of survivalism, the real black helicopter syndrome, the government is trying to take away our guns, and with you need our guns, as the original
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constitution was, to protect ourselves against an overbearing government. that can be the only reason you can think of the motivation of the 10% that don't support -- >> but that's actually not what the constitution says. it says to protect the government. the militias were intended to protect the government. the idea that the founders who wrote in a bunch of checks and balances and voting for, you know, members of congress and built a democracy also wanted to empower people to overthrow that very democracy, you know, doesn't pass the smell test. >> ben, let's talk about the president. a, i think it's laudable and admirable and very good that he continue toss use the bully pulpit to push this issue photographed. he's using political capital on it. but if whatever comes out of the congress is not meaning telephone gun reform, what does it do to the president and, a, the public's united states of his efficacy as commander in chief and b, personally, this is
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something that i think was almost a line in the sand as far as his presidency. >> absolutely, personally seeing the massacre of children and seeing what's going on in his hometown of chicago. look, i'm less pessimistic than many on the panel. i agree with ezra. i think that background checks in particular have a good chance of passage. we see republicans engaging in the issue, red state democrats like senator manchin engaging on the issue. i really think that the lobbyists and thank you for smoking are working for the in. ra at this point, because they've made it -- it's no act the political courage to vote for background check when 90% votes for it. it should be a political no-brainer. the nra used to be the only game in town, but they are not anymore. mayor bloomberg is spending 12
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million, did 100 events across the country, so the cavalry has arrived. i think it's very important to see they'll have in their districts on election day. >> but ben, it should be a political no-brainer, because the number of people who support, so why are we even in the position of the prospect of this withering. we're in the position of what could come out of the newtown is more guns, because we'll have armed guards in schools. >> we are not in that way a democracy. we are not a direct democracy. we don't put a poll into the field and have people vote that way. there are a republicans and number of red-state democrats who are saying speaking for their constituents, the right thing to do is not allow there to be a record kept of a background check, if you goo i a gun in a rural transaction in oklahoma. the question will be in the long run whether their constituents either, a know they did this,
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and b, if they care. >> sometimes the majority support background checks, so the nra is actually representing the fire arms industry? >> as we had, a lot of the gun shops would like to have a quality and background checks, because then there would be more reason to buy for them than going to a gun show i want let's keep in mind that the report that the in. ra released was the folks sitting on that committee are in large part security folks who stand to benefit from -- as lawrence o'donnell pointed out, speaking with asa hutchinson. to some degree i feel ike it's, which is to say you can't get it done, we'll get it done here. to what degree is that muted or does that get watered down by the passage of something, which is to say anything, on the hill? >> i don't think it does. places like colorado,
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connecticut, other states will always want to go further than congress is able to. el ra is right, congress does not democratically represent the country as a whole. that's why people who suggest that roe v. wade came too early are probably wrong. congress was not going to move. the idea that congress actually represents the will of the american people is a myth that people keep buying into, the same with gale marriay marriage >> what does it say that the supreme court is ahead of congress in terms of responding to the will of the american people? isn't that a complete failure of one of the branches of our government? >> if i'm here to saying that one of our branches of government is -- then you've put the wrong person on the show. one fundamental way is it represents rural areas. in rural areas there's much more keep your hands off my guns sentiment than there are in
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urban areas or even suburban area. you'll hear from the white house that people miss the intensity and the fear about given control. so there is -- that is one way this is a particular issue which the lines up very, very poorly with the way congress is designed. >> i accept that to some degree, but katty, and i don't mean to get emotional about this, but as a mother can you envision dropping your child on where there are patrol men armed with weaponry, bulletproof guess, hinges to the door welded shut. do you feel like you're sending your child to a war zone? >> my concern as a mother with kids in public school, you always worry about -- it wouldn't take that much of an accident for the guns to fall into the wrong hands action or you think -- the idea of guns in schools for me is like guns in bars, they're in the wrong place. you know, you don't know what
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somebody will do with something if they get ahold of it. you never do. we have to take a break, but when we come back, one and possibly future candidate rick perry often takes the don't mess with texas logo too literally, but he may just be messing with the people of texas. we'll explain what that means, next on "now."
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to some republican governor like texas governor rick perry, the most outrageous thing in the
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world is not 639 p 3 million texans don't have health insurance or that hospital emergency rooms are being swamped by people seeking basic medical care or his state is dead last when it comes to health insurance coverage. no, for governor perry, the most outrageous thing in the world is that the federal government wants to help him do something about it. now more than three years after president obama's health care plan was signed into law and nine months after it was upheld by the supreme court, governor perry is still fighting to make sure that texas holds onto its last place ranking. on monday, perry and the state's two republican senators teamed up as a press conference to double down on the decision to reject under the affordable care acts. it seems to me april fool 'day is the perfect day to discuss something as foolish as medicaid expansion, he said. into the fool's errand of adding
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more than a million texans to a broken system. the problem for governor perry is that it's precisely this decision that make him the april fool, and not coincidentally the may fool and the june fool and july fool, and well really a follow for all seasons, because if texas were to op into the medicaid expansion, it would bring coverage to 1.5 million low-income texans and 90 billion in federal funding to the state over the next decade. for most states, even red states, declining the federally funded medicaid expansion is indeed a fool's errand. so far 25 governors have already supported it, including eight states with republican governors. memo to governor perry -- when even standout, hard-core obama care haters like jan brewers and rick scott have tuned into the news that it's a good idea to get health care insurance for peer people, maybe perhaps it is time to join the club.
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for some republicans, the fight against reason is not yet over. ezra klein writes in "the washington post" -- the republican slogan repeal and replace has given way to resist and annoy. the question, though, is whether governors who purposefully do a very bad job implementing obamacare will hurt the law or just themselves and their states. some republican governors may continue to follow the tao of perry, continuing to believe it's -- but it is probably best not to take advice on the size and scope of government from a man who cannot even remember which three federal agencies he wants to abolish. >> it's three agencies of government that i get there that are gone -- commerce, education and the -- what's the third one there? let's see. i would do away with education, the -- commerce -- i can't.
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the third one i can't. sorry. oops. >> it never gets old. sdproo we'll talk about the fool for all seasons, governor req perry and the latest news out of the texas with democratic congressman joaquin castro. that's next. [ male announcer ] in blind taste tests, even ragu users chose prego. prego?! but i've been buying ragu for years. [ thinking ] i wonder what other questionable choices i've made? [ club scene music ] [ sigh of relief ] [ male announcer ] choose taste. choose prego. we don't let frequent heartburn come between us and what we love. so if you're one of them people who gets heartburn and then treats day after day... block the acid with prilosec otc and don't get heartburn in the first place! [ male announcer ] one pill each morning. 24 hours. zero heartburn.
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welcome back. in true texas fashion, on monday when governor rick perry made his crusade against medicaid official, his announcement turned into manage of a show june. just two hours later, joaquin castro gathered with a large group of texans to protest, and to urge the extension of health care coverage to the working poor. in a state with the most uninsured people in the nation, one man stands between millions of texas families and health care compage, governor rick perry. it makes moral hand economic
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sense to expand medicaid as the health of millions hangs in the balance. it is my sincere hope that the governor of texas shows leadership by expanding health care access in our state, governor perry, do the right thing. joining us, i think for capital 4 of the castro chronicles. >> thank you for having me, alex. >> it's always great to talk to someone in texas about rick perry. >> i hope so. there's great -- to expand medicaid. you know, the governor has talked about trying to figure out a way to get texas some flexibility on the program. there's no question that the obama administration has been able to work with states like
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arkansas and other states, to tailor a solution to that particular state part of the problem is that at every opportunity to politicize this issue so much that, you know, he's putting himself into a corner now. i think even he realizes that ultimately the state of texas has got to accept this federal money, money that texans have already paid over to washington, d.c. and do the right thing, take the 90 or $100 billion and insure 1.5 million more texans. >> congressman, how will this play in texas? 1.5 million texans will be denied -- not denied, but they would be able to have access to health care coverage if governor perry expanded the roles. if you look at how that affects certain sectors, 38% of the nonelderly latino population in
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texas is uninsured, compared to 17% of whites. this is coming at a time when rick perry is polls at 26%, which is to say 26% of texans would vote for him if he ran against in 2014. politically this doesn't seem to make much sense for him. >> he turned down race to the top money in education. 550 million of unemployment money, when we were in the middle of the economic crisis. he has a track record of doing this, but on this particular issue, people from all over the political spectrum, from the chambers of congress on the right, to the hospital association, doctors' groups, groups not especially liberal groups that can more conservative. and also catholic charities, religious groups, human rights groups have said this is what texas should do. so he'll really feeling the heat from all over the place. >> ezra, the congressman points on the the questionable
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political decisions. i also think it's worth talking about the threshold for medicaid in texas. under medicaid expansion, if you are a family of three or four, the floor is $25,000 a year. in texas right now, the only way you qualify for medicaid is if you are earning $5,000 a year or less for a family of three. which is abject poverty. i mean, $5,000 for a family of three -- >> and if you're a single adult, nothing for you. there's something else here, and why the doctors' groups are coming in. something gets taken away, and i think people don't recognize this, if you don't sign up for the medicaid expansion. right now, those who treat uninsured, the way they stay afloat, is they get something called disproportionate share payments, d.i.s.h. payments. >> i love this part of the show, go for it. >> those keep the hospitals
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going. it's what the texas medical industry relies on, because the obama administration was expecting all this money through medicaid, because there wouldn't be they very poor uninsured, these payments gets ratcheted way, way back, what happens to texas and their medical system is on the one hand they will not go ahead the money, and on the other hand lose the d.i.s.h. payments, and they will crush their hospitals and their charity hospitals. it isn't like what will happen is the status quo. they will alsoly begin to eros the current health care system. when people wonder why their hospitals are closing, even when they do have insurance and realize it's governor perry and the republicans who refuse to take free money to keep them open, that would not be a political winner for them. >> some part of me is concerned that the people of texas or people in states where governors or legislator ares trying to unwind it, don't realize it's their governor or representative, and they blame the president. there is this unwinding, this
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sort of death by a thousand cuts that is happening by congress, vis-a-vis, and i do worry that then sort of sends the wrong message about the principles the president has laid out and also what he wants to do. >> i think governor perry is about to create a class of millions of people who don't have health insurance because of governor perry. i think at that point they're going to see the impact, that it will have political consequences. there's a lot of buzz in democratic political circles, about the tipping point in texas. but participation in election by latinos and others has been very low. i'd like to ask the congressman what he thinks the tipping point will be. i notice battleground texas and other organizations are working to register more latino voters and others in the state. do you think that will help move us to the tipping point? >> there's no question. there's two things going on. first there's a lot of infrastructure over the next several years that will be laid
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to allow democrats to be competitive statewide, but the other thing is the republican leadership in texas, whether it's senator ted cruz, john cornyn, or rick perry, have moved so far to the right, that now you have a lot of center rice republicans, pro-business folks shaking their heads wondering, you know, why are these guys so far out there? they're helping our cause and we're helping our cause. >> ryan, what is the calculus there? why do they feel the need to do that? given that jan brewer has given rick perry a cover, rick scott? he could have expanded the med -- >> i think it's because perry boxed himself in. he essentially delegitimatized the federal government. he said the federal government is run by somebody who is a -- questionable origin, and is not somebody we can even associate ourselves with. so, therefore we can't take this on employment money, we can't take this medicaid money,
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because it's dirty money. now, it's texas money that went to the federal government, dirty texas money going to california. >> very strange reasoning. yes, you know, keep our tax money, you know, keep it in washington, d.c., or give it to california, right. so i think it flows just from delegitimizing the federal government in general. it will be difficult to sit down with hhs and craft a medicaid policy that works for texas. if the 23er8 government is evil, how do you negotiate with them? >> don't you have the same issue being played out being played out right now in texas? republican members of the statehouse in texas, urging rick perry to take this money, who see the demographic writing on the wall, who know the directions is moving, and then you have the outliers. i would ask the congressman, do you think the republicans is a listen, take this money, are
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they actually going to prevail in the end? texas? it seems crazy that rick perry could possibly get away with doing this, when so many republicans are telling him, please, can you just take the cash? >> i think at the end of the day, it's a matter of when texas ends up accepting the money. hopefully it will be under this governor. if not, it will be under the next governor, but there is a lot of pressure, both from within some members of the republican party, certainly from pro-business groups, from human rights groups, social service groups, for him to do the right thing. i would add this. it is unconscionable for one person to make the decision that, although this health care is paid for 100% through 2016, that he's not going to allow 1.5 million people to have health care coverage. that is unconscionable. >> i think it's so right for you to point out the sort of moral
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ram i have be ramifications. perhaps they could be expanded ungovernor castro. >> i'm going to stick to congress for now. >> that's what you say now. thank you for joining us, for the latest and greatest installment of the castro chronicles. >> good to be with you, alex. north korea's drumbeat for nuclear war has perked the ears of the white house. should the administration also be listening to atomic pleas from south korea? we'll have former assistant secretary of state p.j. crowley when he joins us just ahead. [ male announcer ] let's say you pay your guy around 2% to manage your money. that's not much, you think. except it's 2% every year. go to e-trade and find out how much our advice and guidance costs. spoiler alert: it's low. it's guidance on your terms, not ours. e-trade. less for us. more for you.
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workers from entering the industrial park. the spike in bellicose behavior from the new leader comes as joint exercising continue on the peninsula and as the u.s. makes a point flying b-2 stealth bombers over the south. today the top general in the region addressed fear that the brinksmanship could escalate into all-outwar. >> what's your greatest fear with kim jong-un. >> a miscalculation and impulsive decision that causes a kinetic provocation. >> standing alongside his counterpart, john kerrly, who will travel to seoul next week, said the u.s. would stand firm with its allies. >> the united states will do what is necessary to defendant ourselves, our allies korea and japan. last night peter king and no stranger to tough talk himself
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matched the heated rhetoric coming from the north. >> if we have good reason to believe there's going to be an attack, i believe we have the right to take preemptive action. i'm not saying we're rushing into war, don't get me wrong, but if we have solid evidence that north korea will take action, i believe we have the moral obligation and absolute right to defend ourselves. >> with daily threat from north korea and south korea, pressing the u.s. to allow production of its own nuclear fuel, what is the next move for the white house? joining us is former assistant secretary of state p.j. crowley. great to see you. >> hello, alex. >> what is the next move for the white house? there are a lot of conflicting pieces of -- conflicting strategy coming from all corners. "the financial times" a quick op-ed -- north korea seems to many people to be behaving strangely. the big question is should the response of the world be equally predictable. the u.s. refuses to directly talk toots pyongyang.
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this is the wrong approach. the "wall street journal" editorial board basically says the opposite, which is call kim jong-un's bluff. what do you say? >> i think keep taking deep breaths. i mean, if we're patient, this is going to work itself out. the two unknowns here are the two differences from previous cycle of provocation, one an untested leader in the north, one a new president in the south. as general thurman said, you know, if north korea takes a particular action, as they have in the past, in the last three, four week they've sunk a ship, shelled a south korean island. this time around if north korea fires at the south, the south is going to fire back, and then you're into a dynamic where there is some considerable uncertainty. >> considerable uncertainly to say the least, katty. it seems that kim jong-un is making the pivot for him. it's a delicate sort of dance, if you will. there was a lot of talk about
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engagement. that's shifted to a much more hard-line stance. we have what p.j. said, but also john kerry is now secretary of state, seems very intent on having robust diplomacy. what is your read of this situation? >> engagement with north korea hasn't goat us very far. it didn't get far during the bush administration. you had a sort of period of detente, and then we had the nuclear tests, north korea saying it's in a state of war with the south, reneging on the armistice. what they have done just today with the industrial zone is alarming. that is the one area of cooperation with north and south korea, and people in south korea are looking at that as a predictor. we have a new leader in both the north and south korea. i think everybody is trying to take deep breaths, but there is more alarm among is the foreign policy people that i speak to in washington than i have ever heard on north korea, just
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because of the level of unpredictability. we had hope when kim jong-un came into power this could be somebody we could perhaps talk to and perhaps have negotiations with. that doesn't seem to be the case at the moment. >> let's not forget that three years ago, north korea sank a south korean ship, which left 46 people dead. so the idea this is all bluster, there is actually action. he has sort of put his money where his mouth is, if you will, or at least his father did. and to what degree does he feel like he needs to follow in those footsteps? there are huge questions just how serious the north is. >> there are questions, too about whether kim jong-un is doing this to shore up domestic support. this is familiar behavior, but that's certainly one of the questions. one of the things the administration is trying to do as well, to eliminate the variables, is reduce the need, therefore pressure, for south korea to take unilateral action.
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>> let's talk about the south korea piece. if you're on the border of north korea, with the sevening of the warship, there's a real desire for the south koreans to protect themselves. that question about them enriching nuclear fuel, how does the u.s. -- how does the state department deal with that question. it could also lead to an arms race. >> well, sure. and that's why the united states is doing what it's doing, moving ships into the region to reassure that not only south korea, but also japan, that if something happens, we have your back, as the president likes to say. one point about the industrial part, though, is i mean, the north koreans are crazy, they're not suicidal. the north korea -- or the industrial park is actually a revenue enhancer for north korea. one can consume the kim family gets a pretty high percentage of the take on that economic
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activity. so i think they're ratcheting up the pressure, trying to create pressure points, increase costs to south korea, the united states and others, in the hopes that, as has happened in the past, you know, will come to the pyongyang doorstep and offer them something of meaning, you know, ultimately they want three things the international community will not give them -- normal relations, international assistance and sneak lnuclear w. i think we do have to be patient, that more than likely, particularly when john kerry goes to the region, he talks to the chinese, they don't have a trump card to play with north korea, but they have the most influence, say, get off this treadmill and get back to a more stable situation. >> p.j., it's katty, sometimes it reminds me of mu youngest child, drawinging me for attention, you know, please listen to me, listen to me. the temptation is to say, yeah,
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they'll get over it and just pacify them a bit, but we don't know, really what his intentions are, what his intentions are with the military, and the fact that they have effective live admitted they're a nuclear state and ratcheting up plutonium production. it won't be immediate, but this is certainly a more alarming spike in tension than anything we have seen in recent years. >> sure, children, if you want to call them that, with nuclear weapons is -- >> my daughter is always sort of a nuclear weapon. >> ezra i thought made a very good point, you have an uncertainly leadership, they're nervous. they've seen all the color of revolution in other parts of the world. if you're a dictator, what have you normally done in the past? work up a crisis? and that, you know, strengthens the bond between you and your population. that works for a period of time, but not over time. i think also the north koreans are used to challenging new
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south koreans presidents, so i think this is as much politics, you know, because ultimately the north koreans want to keep the status quo, they just want to keep the regime intact, keep making money through both licit and illicit activities. they're not going to go to the brink with the risk of fall over it. >> p.j., a man of much wit dom. i think it's not frequently that you urge us to all take deep breaths. we will continue to do so. thank you as always for your advice, p.j. crowley. >> a pleasure, alex. just getting official world that jay leno is leaving "the tonight show" and jimmy fallon will be taking over the coveted time slot. details after the break.
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♪ tonight tonight ♪ who's gonna host tonight ♪ will it be jimmy or jay there will be a changing of the guard at "the tonight show." jay leno announced he'll hand over the reins after 20 years, beginning in the spring of 2014. jimmy fallon will transition into the role. as part of the change it will be returning to the original home -- what -- at 30 rock here in new york city. speaking of old blood verse new blood, that's my shift to tack about mark sanford. he is back, won the primary. what is up? how did that happen? i took a flight from los angeles to new york yesterday. when i got on the plane i was like mark sanford's career is over. when i got off the plane, the
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dude is back. >> still hiking the campaign trail. it's a win/in, you either get him back in congress or colbert in contingenciegress. in politico today, ezra, the gop is fretting. mark san -- but national republicans aren't celebrating. imprivately concede the former governor could hand a seat to elizabeth colbert bush. mitt romney won this district by 18 points, but sbeshl polls have them up how does the republican party keep doing it to themselves? >> they've done it a lot. >> it makes you wonder, it seems the real thing that decides whether or not you survive a sex scandal in a big way is you resign. you can be david vitter, and a
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patron of prostitutes and you're fine if you don't resign or spitzer resigned and now is out of office. i think sanford tried to do both things. he's now in the middle. he can kind of win, but not as well as he did. >> well, he's going to marry the woman we had the affair to, which makes it more wholesome? >> i think doing well is a relative term here. he's 20 points under water. his favorability rating is in the tank. >> it's a seat the democrat hasn't had for 40 years. >> 119 seats that are more democratic than this one right now. if they -- this race should have never been competitive. the fact that it is competitive, that they have to spend resources there is already a loss for the republican party. >> yeah, i think for sanford, is a vindication he went for authenticity. there are some things that are raw, human and frail about the way he came out and put his heart on his sleeve and said, you know what? i felt in love. for a lot of people around the
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country, and clearly in that district, they could forgive that. >> the polling among women is on the appalachian trail heading down. i would also say the lying about being on the trail when in fact -- >> the low point was about the questions about the campaign funding, all this will come up during the course of the race. >> the press conference was an absolute masterpiece when he confessed, like a robin william speech. >> with a tear in his eye, you know, it was hard not to feel sorry for the guy. >> i look forward to the fact that stephen colbert will be on the campaign trail. we have much comedy to look forward to, including as i mentioned before, jimmy fallon installed at "the tonight show." >> you are good at this. nice segue. >> if there's a vacancy to be filled, i am available. i'll leave it there. that's all for now. see you back here tomorrow, when i'm jersey by kurt anderson,
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