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from houston to kansas city, from chicago to indianapolis, memphis to charlotte, pittsburgh to boston and on over to new york city. fast-food workers in 100 cities across the country are walking off the job today to demand higher wages. right now the median hourly wage for fast-food workers nationwide is $8.94 an hour. that is about $18,000 a year, which is just above the federal poverty level for a family of three. the goal of today's strike is simple. workers want to earn a living wage of $15 an hour, a wage that would allow them to raise their families without having to live in poverty. their employers, mcdonald's, burger king, taco bell and wendy's have seen soaring profits while workers have seen little to no gain in years. last year mcdonald's brought in $5.5 billion in profits, a 27% increase over five years.
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its ceo makes $13.8 million a year, a 234% pay increase from the previous year. comparatively over a period of nearly 15 years, fast-food workers only saw their wages increase by $0.10 an hour. today the disparity between worker and ceo is so high it would take 930 years for a mcdonald's crew member to earn what the company ceo took home hass year. fast-food job wages are so low that over half of frontline fast-food workers, 52% of them, rely on some form of publicist answer including food stamps and medicaid. in response to today's strike the industry said higher wages would lead to steeper prices for consumers. the executive vice president of the national restaurant association told "new york times" when you start by insisting on $15 an hour, that's not conducive to substantive dialogue. perhaps before dismissing a
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fight for a livable wage fast-food companies ought to engage with their employees. workers like benjamin hunter, a married 43-year-old father who works at a burger king in wilmington delaware. his wife also works there and his family gets medicaid and food stamps. what we're paid is not enough, he told "the washington post." who can actually live on what they are paying. hunter asks a fair question, one that fast-food companies should be forced to answer. joining me editor for the wire eric snider and jamal simmons policy analyst for national employment law project jack temple and senior writer for "politico" magazine glen thrush. joining us democratic congressman from minnesota's fifth district keith eleison. congressman, always great to have you on the program. >> thank you, alex. >> no better day from today. you just came from a protest what group of fast-food workers making the case for an increase
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in the minimum wage. tell us what these workers want and why. >> these workers want better pay. many of the workers i was with worked for contractors who held federal contracts. so in fact the united states government funds more low wage workers than mcdonald's or walmart combined. so we're asking for something specific from the president, the president we may not get much through congress with the republican majority but can he sign an executive order which would order these folks who have federal contracts pay a livable wage. we think that's reasonable to do. i delivered a letter to him to that effect yesterday. his speech was awesome but now we can really do something about it. >> his speech yesterday was awesome. the minimum wage was a huge part of it. given his comments yesterday, do you think it is now incumbent on him to do what he can to ensure those making the minimum wage
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make a livable wage? >> yes. i think it is incumbent upon him. i think the president has a right heart, his heart is in the right place but we've got to get his sit in the right place on an executive order that would raise the pave these workers who work for federal contractors. >> congressman, one more question before we open this up to our folks in new york. that is, when people think about who is working minimum wage jobs, they imagine their teenager neighbors or young people, when in reality the fact is 67% of front-line fast-food workers are 20 and older. 68% of them are the main earners in their families. as you have taken on this issue. can you give us a little bit of a sense of the kinds of men and women you've been talking to? >> absolutely. so i always whenever i'm at these low wage worker strikes and go to as many as i can, i stop and talk to people. they are out raising families, putting food on the table. these people have adult responsibilities. they are not teenagers living with mom and dad.
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the overwhelming majority are dealing with issues from illness. they are a transmission or some sort of illness away from real devastation because almost none of them have any savings. they are living check to check. about three-fourths of americans are living check to check. this is a real deal. this is a serious problem. >> i'm going to bring our folks from new york in. jack, the federal question is one thing. if these workers don't get what they are asking for, what is the recourse here? how much leeway to pressure state and municipal governments. >> there's two things to pay attention to. workers are asking for a $15 wage. they are asking to bargain collectively with employers and be able to form a union. that's something that doesn't require john boehner, the house of representatives to approve. this is something mcdonald's could do tomorrow. they could sit down with their workers, participate in what's really been an american tradition of workers an businesses bargains together to restore higher wages for the jobs that are really forming the
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core of the economy today. that's what we did in the manufacturing sector the beginning of this economy and it really built the american middle class. it's what we need to do now. manufacturing jobs have gone away. it's fast-food jobs, retail jobs, service sector forming the core of the u.s. economy. those are the jobs we need to raise wages for. >> jack brings up an important point, seven out of ten growth occupyings through 2020 are low-wage jobs. this the american job market. the president has supported this, we have a lot of democrats who have come out and supported thchl i think it is much harder, actually, for conservatives to dismiss the minimum wage in the way they dismiss other parts of the social safety net. this is not an entitlement program. there's economic stimulus. i think this puts conservatives in a tough position. >> it does put republicans in a tough position. majority of republicans think this is a good idea. the president talked beauty this yesterday. he's been talking about this for as long as he's been in public
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life. how is it we get more hone into the hands of working americans so we can grow the economy with people actually going out and working every day and building the economy with their hands and their brains. the next challenge for the democrats, how do we broaden that out. how do we aspire to minimum wage job in most people don't. we need more ladders to rise up beyond minimum wage into the middle class. >> glen, as someone who spent a lot of time and probably continues to in the white house, what did you make of -- we'll talk more about where the president is at and gored forward, specifically the minimum wage piece, as jamal said, it's something he talked about thematically. i felt like yesterday it was the president planting a flag in the issue. now i think actually to congressman eleison's point, beholden to do something about it in a way he was not necessarily before. >> at the risk of being cynical and that's a risk i take every
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day of my life. >> that's true, my friend. >> look at the timing of this. truly is economic equality, fairness, resonates very much with obama care argument. this was not something you heard the president talk about in a folsom way during the campaign. >> is that true? i felt like this was one of the themes of the campaign. >> he gave that speech in kansas, in late 2011 he struck these themes. a lot of the conversation that took place in the campaign wasn't necessarily around this and certainly not around this issue with any great specificity. i think there's a lot of political upside with the president on this. he was at an event with administration officials and they think this is a winning issue. >> congressman, i want to talk to you about the political calculus here. as this conversation has become less a grassroots dialogue and more a mainstream conversation, which is to say we are talking about the minimum wage in a way that i am very happy to announce
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is not the way we've been talking about it, which is substantively and a belief change may happen in the coming months. what has the reaction been with republican colleagues in congress as this conversation has gone off the ground. >> i think if john boehner would put an increase in the minimum wage bill on the floor, it would pass. i'm confident we could get enough republicans who would peel off and vote with us. their constituents are demanding this. i'm sure every democrat would. maybe we'd lose one or two, maybe none at all. i think there's good politics. policy and politics converge on this thing. we need to do something now. the real issue is will one man stand in the way. >> that is always the question with john boehner. gabriel, i think the other thing with the minimum wayne is you really have a coalition of people who understand what the minimum wage -- i worked minimum wage jobs. everybody has a very tangible, personal understanding of what
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it is like to get a check for $7.15 and compare that to anecdotal evidence how much ceos are being paid. i think we have a chart somewhere in there ceo versus worker pay. the numbers, disparity between the top and the bottom. a fact a mcdonald's fry cook has to work 930 years to make what the ceo makes. there is no spinning you can really do to make up for that. >> right. there's so many compelling figures coming out of the discussion. the economic policy institute has amazing chart showing minimum wage against poverty line. it has not been above the poverty line for a family of two for most of the last 50 years. i think those kinds of understanding. there's another thing at play with the fast-food strikes. fast-food now is a mass culture. we see people twoont want to -- get excited about new
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promotions. >> the coca-cola polar bars have their own movie. not to say they aren't cute but go ahead. >> there is a lot of potential not just for politic and labor situation but consumer awareness here of what the people that serve them their burgers are making. >> i think that's an important point toemp size. that's a moment of leverage in this campaign. there's a question about what are these companies going to do. i think what we've seen these strikes began last year in one city with new york, with 200 workers walking out, thousands of workers in hundreds of cities. that means these brands are associated not just with big mack but low wages, the company telling workers to go on food stamps. >> or eat in smaller bites. >> exactly. with these countries they are very protective of their brand particularly with fast-food that's heavily franchised. they need to make sure the identity of their brand remains popular and that's where the momentum will be. >> the conservative distaste for social safety net, the fablt you
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have private enterprise effectively shifting the burden back on the government. hey, mcdonald's workers, make sure to sign up for food stamps seems behind callous. go ahead, glen. >> you can't get republicans to vote for an extension of unemployment benefits. congressman nelson knows this well. have you a culture in the house -- i'm not sure this would pass the house. maybe he's privy to figures i'm not. have you a culture and we're talking about it before the show where americans are aspirational and you really have to make a sale to them a political culture, so much about food stamps, some realistic, some wildly unrealistic in terms of the way the real economy works. i think you have a sales job that needs to be done nationally to get people who might be part of this. >> if you're pro business conservative i don't understand why you're not from supports. when workers move between companies over the course of
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years, benefits should move with them. whether unemployment, health care, pensions, we've got to fix out a way to let workers go where their best use is and companies ought to appreciate that also. >> congressman, the republican party has been spinning its wheels on a number of issues. on the question of poverty and mobility, they have offered no practical solutions to the question the president posed yesterday. given that and given minimum wage is something red state governors raised in some states, it would seem there's support on the right-hand side of the aisle. i'm not quite as cynical as glen thrush. >> i'm confident it would pass. i'll tell you why. first of all, i talked to certain members. but also, you know, when chris christie won also in new jersey, the minimum wage passed as chris christie won. so here you have people voting for a republican governor and an increase in minimum wage. so it tells me there might be
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negotiating as to the exact dollar amount but there is an increase in minimum wage that could pass the house. i think you'd have probably overwhelming majority of dems passing it, minority of republicans. but if boehner would put it up, i'm confident it would pass. at least i'd like to see. i think it would. they would get to identify and brand themselves. i think it's an important question whose side are you on? low wage workers, people trying to come up or the guys who make exorbitant amounts and huge bonuses. >> congressman before i let you go, we did a little digging into your own biography. at one point, is it true you were a fast-food worker at one point? >> yes. i worked at mcdonald's. i cooked. it was one of the toughest jobs i ever had. it's hot. you're on your feet. you're moving around. have you to lift heavy frozen hamburgers and clean up constantly. these people earn every single penny they get. in fact, they earn way more than they get and they need a change
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and they need a better reality. >> a really fair and important point. this is tough work. congressman keith eleison, thank you as always and good luck. >> thank you. and thank you to jack from the national employment law project. great to see you. >> after the break hoops enthusiast president obama, president obama hoops enthusiast moves from playing defense to full-court press. we'll discuss the white house's new policy initiative and the o-genda next on "now." ♪ you know, ronny... folks who save hundreds of dollars by switching to geico sure are happy. and how happy are they jimmy? i'd say happier than a bodybuilder directing traffic. he does look happy. get happy. get geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance.
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after two months of muddled messaging, wildly bad vibes in and around the rollout of the
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nation's health care law president obama stood tall and set to reclaim his second term by returning to the themes on which he staked his re-election. >> i believe this the defining challenge of our time, making sure our economy works for every working american. that's why i ran for president. if republicans have concrete plans that will reduce inequality, build middle class, provide more ladders of opportunity to the poor, lets hear them. >> "washington post" ezra klein called the president's 48 minute speech perhaps the single best economic speech of his presidency. that's in part because it exists to lay out obama's view of the economy. his other views have been about passing legislation, defining campaign themes or positioning himself against republicans. president obama is done running for office. though the president is indeed finished campaigning for office, his remarks did reflect a political calculus. to underscore differences
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between two parties and show voters once again the choice that lies ahead of them next year. as e.j. dion writes, republicans are betting that obama care and travails will be the deciding issue in the next year's election. obama thinks heg and minimum wage can be linked to other proposals in a larger battle for economic fairness. in another speech doubled down in their agreed upon strategy, repeal obama care. case in point, before the president concluded his remarks house speaker john boehner on the floor of the lower chamber railing against the nation's health care law mostly because that's the only thing he's allowed to talk about these days. >> delay the individual mandate, allow the american people to keep the health care plans that they would like. or scrap the health care law wreaking havoc on our economy. >> while jop seems content to bang the gong on obama care without any concern about the rest of the economy, the add manage is busy with the rest of the orchestra.
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if, as "the wall street journal" posits the president is winning hearts and minds doing his best elizabeth warren interpretation then he's not done yet. this morning president obama announce add new plan to triple the federal government's use of renewable energy by 20% by the year 2020. as one anonymous official told "new york times" every day there will be something coming out of the white house. that sounds so sort of pllike foreboding. we hope it's something good. you see in the script i said this was return to the themes that got him elected. you sound like you would beg to differ in the first earlier discussion we had. i agree with e.j. dionne. he's making a big bet. it is still the economy, stupid. if you look at the gallop poll, 46% of the country see the economy as the most important issue, 96% say health care.
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>> look at the economic numbers out today. the first unemployment claims in a very long time, under 300,000. you had currently quarterly gdp far exceeding analyst expectations. you have a very good story to tell comparatively right now on the economy. the one thing that's been a drag on that is the obama care debate of the president clearly has to put a line, a straight line between where he is right now and the positive news on the economy. so yes, does he really believe in this? yes. does it resonate with themes in 2008 and to some degree 2012? i view this principally as a way to get out of the funk. >> a problem. sequester has been a problem, government shutdown is a problem. the problem is the republican house that will not allow some sort of middle ground that democrats and republicans agree upon to move the economy forward. so you've got president now deciding he's going to rhetorically beat the economy forward along with these
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numbers. they just have to keep this drum beat going longer than two weeks. >> 2016 until someone can do something about it. >> it's going to be a problem sometime. maybe they should not have something new every day but talk about something every week. >> please not something knew every day. gabriel, we play that clip of john boehner. it's amazing he's reading from the script, we must repeal -- that's the only thing they have been saying. you'd think he would have it memorized now. i'm in danger getting a case of whiplash going from this thing is going to screw up 2014 to maybe this thing won't be so bad. i'm not harry reid, that's his position. i just think when the smoke clears in a couple months, the republicans are left hiding behind what used to be a giant mountain and is now perhaps a mo hill with no policy to propose. >> the baseline here is most of
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these republicans in the house know they are going to get reelected in 2014. the historical average is somewhere around 90% of incumbents get elected. there's no real pressure on them to change that strategy. they are going to stick with it as far as they can. this probably helps them get re-elected in some of these districts. i don't see that dynamic that's coming in. a month ago or so we were talking about how the republican party was in tatters after the shutdown. i think that was probably hyperbole in the same way was going to end the obama presidency. >> i don't know if this is devil's advocate or heavy-handed liberalism. the notion that people now have a personal tangible experience with the health care law, which is to say their children are 26 and kept in the law, lifetime limits, cheaper premiums. in some cases they don't have cheaper premiums. being a woman, you don't have to be punished for it under the health care law. there are many ways women are repressed by republican all over
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the country. the point is karl rove was on fox saying the president repeated the things we've heard for months as to the benefits of the system. you get to keep your child on your insurance until age 26 and so on and so forth. it hasn't helped to a great degree. it's as if he's clearly trying to diminish the returns, if you will, of the affordable care act. they aren't easily dismissed. >> they aren't easily dismissed. they know the longer they kick in, the more people will get attached, the tougher it will be to repeal it. some are starting to talk about what do we have to do to fix it or work around the edges, how do we make that play. the problem is for rpgs, i don't know why they don't figure this out, lima, ohio, or suburban atlanta, there are republican voters who are benefiting from these programs. they ought to find a way to help them. because they are getting their hats handed to them economically. what is the republican plan to help middle class and working class americans do better in this economy in they don't have one. >> glen, i want to talk a little
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about the current negotiations happening in congress, the budget agreement. we're getting early wood paul ryan putting together a package that would carry the budget for the next two years, which is astounding to most of us. my question is, i applaud bipartisanship. if they can work mng out, fantastic. at the same time i'm incredibly skeptical even paul ryan can sell thing to the conference. >> i did a piece talking about chuck hagel, chuck hagel, the defense secretary is getting impressive internally because there's a sense you're looking at potential $100 billion a year sequester cuts in the defense department. that is the one issue in the fight that can motivate them. two-thirds have skin in the game in terms of military installations, significant contractor employees in their
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district. so i think that ultimately is the end game. i think the biggest thing to happen in this entire debate in the past six months without question is harry reid and the nuclear option. jamal talking about the white house needing to take more direct action, be more muscular. talking about a new thing every day. the only way to do that is control your own executive. that is why obama and reid together in a coordinated way decided to flout the senate rules. without getting those people in place, they can't do that. >> it's interesting. the talk after reid used the so-called nuclear option is you will never see republican cooperation ever again. here we may have a potential budget deal. glen, you talked about the defense cuts. there's one wing of the republican party that tends to be most reactionary and shut down the government in the first place that doesn't really care. >> that is where the rubber meets the road. that is where you start to see economic self-interest argument
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really taking place. i think it's one thing to sort of go off on the tea party tangent but that's where the contradiction in the republican message starts to take hold in those districts. when you start talking about cutting military installations and get rid of defense contractors you're talking about a real issue. >> that's when you really see contraics dids as opposed to every other day. we have to leave it there. in a very, very important programming note, president obama plays "hardball" tonight. the president is sitting down with a one-on-one with chris matthews at 7:00 eastern. you're a fool if you miss that. coming up new indications in a shift of the balance of power between financial institutions and regulators. we will discuss the latest crackdowns and incredible shrinking number of american banks when new york attorney general eric schneiderman joins us just ahead. if i can impart one lesson to a
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>> even in the 21st century, 2013, $13 bill is a great deal of money. not simply something jpmorgan signed a check and smilingly said this is a good deal for us. this inflicts pain on that institution. >> the government's mega settlement with jpmorgan chase last month, the largest in u.s. history could be just the beginning of a new crackdown on banks that profited from selling highly dubious mortgage-backed securities. the financial times reports nine other banks are under investigation for their mortgage lending practices. >> today is the first of what we
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think will be settlement with other banks. i think other banks will follow. >> not only jpmorgan but other banks doing similar kinds of things that led directly to the collapse of our economy in 2008 and 2009. even if the cases aren't as large, they aren't less significant. we will make sure they are held accountable. >> secretary jack lew hailed reforms to rein in excess and abuse. >> we've made choices and progress for reforming our financial system. as we move forward and new higher standards phased in, the changes will be more apparent and our financial system will be even more secure. >> next week regulators are expected to approve a tougher than expected version of the so-called volcker rule which would impose tighter restrictions. the goal is to reduce the chances of mega losses like
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jpmorgan's $6.2 billion london fiasco. the question is after years of complaints banks spared for their prosecution in the role of the financial crisis, have we turned a corner? joining us now new york attorney general eric schneiderman. mr. attorney general, always an honor to have you on the show. congratulations on the work thus far. >> thank you. good to be here. >> a big, big deal. i wanted to ask that question. have we turned the corner? from your experience, do you sense a change between the dynamic between the banks and financial services industry and regulators? >> i think it does reflect a change. we're coming up in january on the second anniversary of president obama's state of the union address when he announced the creation of the working group which i co-chair along with my colleagues in the justice department. this is less than two years old. we've been pooling our resources, huge meetings, people from all over the country, prosecutors, state, federal, other regulators.
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the case against jpmorgan -- cases against jpmorgan chase and its two subsidiaries were part of the collective effort the president launched. really it takes a little time to make cases but this the first big win, and i do expect more to follow. i do think as far as the accountability side of this, i'm a prosecutor, as far as going after people who committed misconduct, that is definitely pursued more aggressively than before. going to secretary lew, regulatory side, have to have a sound system where people make money and capital markets make money but don't put people at risk. we have to send a message there is accountability no matter how big you are if you break the rules. >> what's the attitude. is it grudging accept arranges anger. jonathan bloomberg said it's not
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as punishing on the surface. there's nothing in jpmorgan's admissions that would be damaging to the company. they can be proud. your reaction to that. >> there's a statement of facts they admit people put bad mortgages into mortgage backed securities. i'm not sure if he read the statement of facts or not. toif say i think jpmorgan was smart. i think history will look well on this as a decision because there is what i've always believed is a a peace premium. the first bank saying we will put this behind us. not just a settlement with my office. this is claims of freddie and fannie, fdic, national strategy from day one. i'm proud of the work i've done together with my colleagues and i think you will see in the next few months other banks coming to the table. i think their reaction is -- the jpmorgan fox figured this out. they understood it's better to bite the bullet and put it bin us. they can go forward. they are a well-run bank and i
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look for them to get a bump out of this. some of the other banks are more afraid. some have more exposure and less cash. each institution is different. we're going to continue to move forward as we have. there are more investigations under way, more complaints being drafted. this all -- this is not in any way, shape, or form an anti-wall street agenda. this is a pro accountability agenda. >> i think some people will say it's high time this agenda be enacted. i wonder moving forward, the regulatory infrastructure is being built as we speak. are you quichbsconvinced the cuf risk taking is better than before. i'll point to "the wall street journal" reporting the number of banks in total in the country is at a record low except that means the six biggest banks that are much bigger. the notion of too big to fail very much exists. my question is are these
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punitive measures have effect going forward. >> two things. after the crash there was a period of massive consolidation. it's true. the big institutions are bigger than ever. we had a delay, i would say, in pursuing aggressively the accountability because the concern at the beginning, when the president took over, is how do we keep the economy moving. now we're pursuing that and it's very important to do. i do not think -- i think it's a mistake to suggest there's a culture of risk taking, people's desire to take risk goes up or down. if i buy stock, make an investment, i want people handling my money to be as aggressive as possible, make me money within set rules. i don't expect them to self-police. this is why government regulation is essential. you can't expect traders to, you know, follow rules. >> do you think we're building enough infrastructure to rein in that kind of behavior. >> that is the goal. that's what the secretary was talking about and it's still a work in process. i think the dodd/frank process has been bogged down in a lot of
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ways -- i spent 16 years in private practice representing merrill lynch and financial firms. i have a lot of friends on the street. everyone wants certainty. if they know the rules, they will make money. they need rules by the government. no one will hold back, i'm letting them do trades and i'm not because it's immoral. that's not the way it works. >> no good deed goes unpunished of i have to have you in a recent issue of "vanity fair," donald trump, someone we do not get give a loot of air time to but i would love to get your thoughts called you disgusting human being, crook, sleaze bag, driving business out of new york city. nothing in this interview shoes you have antagonistic relationship with the street. >> i think you're giving too much credit to mr. trump. i'm not sure he's making
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intelligence commentary on regulatory systems. i sued him for fraud. he had a phony trump university. it's laid out in the k his prosecutors are used to people who are in trouble when we catch them hurling insults, trying to distract from the merits of the claim. he's got a big mega phone. other than that he's committed fraud and he's going to be held account able like everyone else. >> police commissioner, thumbs-up? way up? >> great pick. i've worked with him for years. he's a national leader using data driven resources to control crime. crime has gone down everywhere he's worked. he's a smart, savvy guy. great pick by mayor de blasio. >> all the ducks lining up. thank you four time and congrats on the work thus far. >> thank you, alex. >> coming up new york city is about to have a new sheriff in time. not quite new. we will review the record of the once and future nypd commish bill bratton.
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this is nature valley. nature at its most delicious. photography a changing of the guard at nypd or return of old guard. this morning mayor elect bill de blasio named bill bratton next new york city police commissioner, a post he held nearly two decades ago under mayor rudy giuliani. under de blasio one of the top duties will be to repeal the controversial stop and terrific policy. >> bill bratton knows when it comes to stop and frisk it has to be used with respect and used properly. >> in this city i want every new yorker to talk about their police, my police with respect.
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>> that, glen thrush, is a child's book about community policing that is very influential. you'll find more in coming weeks. after the break while regime change comes to the big apple, status quo reigns in toronto. recreational crack smoker and sports radio wannabe rob ford is still mayor. we'll explain why next. life with crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis is a daily game of "what if's". what if my abdominal pain and cramps end our night before it even starts? what if i eat the wrong thing? what if? what if i suddenly have to go? what if? but what if the most important question is the one you're not asking? what if the underlying cause of your symptoms is damaging inflammation? for help getting the answers you need, talk to your doctor and visit to connect with a patient advocate from abbvie for one-to-one support and education. i've got a nice long life ahead.
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rob ford is still mayor. new court papers show toronto's crack smoking mayor, rob ford, allegedly offered to pay up to $5,000 and throw in a car for good measure, why not, to try and get his hands on a video of him smoking crack. ford denied it on an appearance of d.c. radio's sports junkies
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program. >> number one, that's an outright lie. and number two, you can talk to my lawyers about it, but i'm going to talk football, guys. >> ford gave his picks for this week's nfl games and his uniquely ironic take on politics south of the border. >> as a person, i like president obama. i don't like his politics. i'm a conservative. i would be a republican if i was down in the states. so i don't believe in all this public funded health care. we've got to pay for it. we can't afford it. what you guys are doing down there, i can't get my head around it. >> gabriel, rob ford cannot get his head around what we're doing down here. regular irony doesn't cut it. you need a 17 tier wedding cake of irony. rob ford is mayor. we took a look at the mayoral
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map which i put up. rob ford's base was in the suburbs. if you how he won, his support is among poor -- it's across racial lines but suburban toronto voters. they are the ones keeping in office. that blue is rob ford. >> looks like a crack crystal. >> a them act candidacy and administration. >> as far as i understand it, he basically -- the election was one of how bad could he be. i think he'll keep the taxes down. he wasn't really interrogated as a person. there was no one asking, does he smoke crack. that was not a campaign issue. >> apparently it now needs to be one. what i also loved, jamal, he said he would be a republican to which i would say, gop, here is your man north of the border. here is a guy who looks down and says that's who i identify in. >> absolutely. i hope he shoes up with campaign
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ads. when i wamp this i can't help but think we know we're at a sign of apocalypse when ron ford is interviewed by ron burgundy. >> the apocalypse right on my doorstep but may not be too far away with anchorman a few weeks a away. >> not a bad dude, that is the cynicism, reverse cynicism we love and know from you. >> i don't want to talk about it. >> i want to say this. this factors into we will laugh about him, continue to laugh about him. i think it's seriously bad for civil service to have people like rob ford in office. i want to read this excerpt from atlantic, important to bear this in mind. downtowners see him up close and personal. not slash and burn repugnant all of it. out in the suburbs city center a
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million miles away. people of color experience differently than affluent and white residents downtown. for these voters problems of the downtown core seem frivolous. who cares about opera houses and bicycle lanes and too many condos when it takes three bloody hours to commute by transit to low paying downtown job that is disenfranchisement and what is splitting the parties in america. >> the other thing, it's so easy to laugh about this story. we have to remember, there is a murder in the middle of this story. part of those papers that came out saying the cops, one of ford's aides thinks the person who took the video of him smoking crack was killed for it. didn't elaborate on exactly rye why but they want thad. everything that's happened in toronto is very easy to laugh at but it's really a dark, dark story. i think whatever rob ford, i think we're going to learn more as this investigation continues,
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it's a sick story. >> it is a sick story. i would say strategic advice. if you've been caught smoking crack, do not go on a radio program with the word junkie on it. helpful hint from down south. thanks to my panel. i'll see you tomorrow at noon eastern. "andrea mitchell reports" is coming up next. do not forget tonight a special edition of "hardball" when our very own chris matthews goes mano y mano with a man named president obama. i'm meteorologist bill karins. this arctic invasion moving south. soon we'll be dealing with icy mess in areas that had record heat temperatures will drop from dallas to oklahoma city, little
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>> right now on "andrea mitchell reports," living wage. fast-food workers in 100 cities protest poverty wages as new numbers paint a broader economic outlook or does it. now many americans -- >> combines trends in equality pose a fundamental threat to the american dream, our way of life and what we stand for around the globe. >> globetrotters. vice president biden and secretary of state john kerry are making diplomatic tracks in asia and middle east. in china no sign of progress intentions over disputed airspace. kerry and netanyahu agreed to disagree about interim iran nuclear deal. >> we believe that in a final deal unlike the interim deal, it's crucial to bring about a final agreement about the termination of