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and idiotic episode. >> that's really been the administrations line. these were rogue people. >> like remembering where you were when the space shuttle blew up. >> some type of inappropriate motivation. >> the e-mails and conduct that became public between david wildstein and bridgette kelly. >> throwing bridgette kelly under the bus, in addition to david wildstein. >> this strange, unnecessary and idiotic episode, reckless and perplexing episode. >> when you accept a position of leadership, it doesn't come with a guarantee of sunshine and rainbows. >> how many adjectives does it take to describe a bridge scandal? today, governor chris christie's press secretary went before the new jersey legislative panel
investigating the traffic problems in ft. lee. in short, the answer to that question is, a lot of adjecti s adjectives. >> strange, unnecessary and idiotic, abuse, shocking and disorienting. cavalier, reckless and perplexing episode. >> that was just in his opening statement. he asserts he nor the governor had any involvement what so ever in this whole, strange, idiotic perplexing episode. he got the first press inquiry on bridgegate on september 17th of last year, days after the lane closures ended. he detailed the response when he went to the key players in the saga starting the deputy chief of staff, bridgette kelly. >> she was kind of just back of the hand, dismissive, oh, it's nothing, you know, it's port authority stuff. >> it's, you know, ahh, port
authority stuff. and what port authority point man, david wildstein? >> he was very matter of fact, this is about traffic study. we have conducted a traffic study, no big deal. it's going to be short lived. >> if there is anything this has proved not to be, it is short lived. new information may give it more life yet. he told governor christy's chief council, charlie mckenna about david wildstein's assertion that bridgette kelly and bill step yen, both of them knew about the lane closures as they happened. in response, mckenna said -- >> he said, we are looking into this, you know, words to that effect. >> we are looking into this. governor christie's chief
council was looking into whether the senior aids knew about questionable lane closures. the governor's council was looking into the lane closures weeks, weeks, before governor christie made light of the whole thing at a press conference on december 2nd when he joked about realigning the traffic cones himself. why, at the very least, didn't more people in the governor's office take this mor seriously more quickly? druniak says it was colored by politics. >> there was a belief that this is being ginned up by two of the most, and again, no offense, please -- >> i understand. i won't hold you responsible for it. >> two of the parties of the legislature on the other side of the aisle. so, that had a role in the coloring and thinking of numerous people. >> you handled that quite well, by the way.
>> joining me now is editor-in-chief of maine justice and manning editor of the washington post politics section and author of the fix, chris cillizza. you have been doing exhaustive reporting on this scandal. i guess knowing what you know about the christie administration, does it sort of stretch the imagination that the governor's chief council was looking into his senior most aide, whether or not his senior most aides knew about a traffic scandal, i'll call it. the governor wouldn't know, nobody in that chain of command would have mentioned something to the governor. >> no, it doesn't seem credible. i mean, the interesting thing, i caught a bit of the testimony today and state nor was pressing on the fact he had this conversation with mckenna. mckenna was a prosecutor. he was a high ranking prosecutor
and kevin o'dowd as well, who is also in the office came from the office. they know what it means when someone talks about potentially illegal activities. the question is, you know, of course, the bridge closed in a way that abused power. a prosecutor who knows what is supposed to happen in a case like this would make a comment like that and christie wouldn't know. they are all sitting close together. they are very close. it's still completely unanswered questions. >> what do you make of this drip of information? some people say it's helpful to christie this is taking so long, a witness here, a witness there and it could go on for an untold or unspecified amount of time. is that a constant reminder of the scandal surrounding the new jersey state legislature helmed by chris christie. >> i don't know who the people are that say this is a good thing politically for him.
i don't think they are right. what chris christie needs politically speaking is come out of this investigation as well as the parallel investigation tla is happening outside the state legislature. with it clear whether or not people think this -- this -- how could he not know, those sorts of thoughts, there is no direct link that he knew about this concurrently. remember in that famous and long press conference he gave, the key take away was, i did not know about it. i found out about it from the press reports. i had no knowledge of it previously. if that is undermined and whether it's undermined in a short period of time or a long period of time, that fundamentally ends his future prospects. if it is not, then he can go forward. i think he would rather have it end sooner rather than later. this constant, a witness here and a witness there keeps the story in the news and keeps us talking about it. i think he would be rather
moving on. >> mary, the other figure who is at this point, we have not heard much from him, but he is, in many ways the keeper of the keys, is david wildstein. to hear michael drewniak, he was credible when he explained the bridge lane closures as a traffic study, then it wasn't creditable when he said kelly knew about it. he told governor christie about the lane closures on the 11th. he's the missing link here, is he not? >> yes. we don't know his status with the u.s. attorney's office where he's been in talks about granting testimony and immunity. you know, obviously, the whole thing is so cartoonist, where do you begin. they were friends and he confided in him, according to the gibson-dunn report.
he cold christie on september 11th ceremonies about this. on one hand, he says i had no reason to suspect that the traffic study wasn't happening, but then he also called the lane closures essentially a bone headed move. so, the fact they did something so bone headed would suggest there is reason to doubt there was a traffic study. nobody's story hangs together. we haven't heard anything more from wildstein other than the initial release of the e-mails because he is still in legal jeopar jeopardy. >> chris, the other piece of this is the new york/new jersey rivalry. according to drewniak, he says it didn't garner much attention because of well-known bad blood between pat foye and david wildstein. now, at some point, governor cuomo, you know, has to worry about his folks being implicated
in this and the po littizization of this. i wonder how much you think this becomes an issue for the new york side of affairs. >> look, for a lot of people who not like me, didn't grow up in the northeast and grow up close to this, the idea there's a shared agency between new york and new jersey is in and of its amazing. you know, i think in general, anytime i feel like in aq political order, when there's a deep dive in a state legislative committee, it's a reason to be on guard, if you are a politician or someone who has ties to that. >> especially given fact andrew cuomo and chris christie mentioned a few months ago, 2016 contenders. >> and look, chris christie seems, if it is not shown, alex,
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execution of mentally disabled americans was unconstitutional. executing the mentally retarded -- despite this decision, tonight at 6:00 p.m. central time, the state of texas is planning to execute a plan that meets it criteria of the state classification of mental retardation. the man about to be executed is a convicted murderer and rapist. weeks ago, the lawyers discovered state prosecutors and other officials withheld evidence of his mental capacity. is state of texas failed to disclose two prior i.q. tests, one shoring a score of 68 and the other a score of 71. on average, 2% of americans like campbell, have an i.q. score below 70. earlier today, campbell's lawyers lost their appeal to
stay his execution over the state's secretcy. the new evidence on hand, the defense is arguing that campbell's i.q. is too low for execution, it does not comport with the 2002 supreme court ruling and is, therefore, a violation of the eighth amendment of the u.s. constitution. if texas goes through with this tonight. robert campbell would be the eighth inmate executed in texas this year and he would be the state's 516th execution from lethal injection, from lethal injection alone, since 1982. the most to take place in any state in the country. it is about 20 minutes after 4:00 p.m. on the east coast right now. unless the supreme court, the fifth circuit court or governor rick perry decide to stay the execution within the next 2:40, robert campable, a man with an
i.q. of 69 will be put to death. joining me is joy reed. thank you for joining me. >> anytime. >> so, i feel like we have been talking about death row inmates in a way we haven't for years, possibly, forever. i don't tend to hold out a lot of hope about rick perry doing the right thing, i tend to think as the writers at mother jones thinks, the tide is changing about, not just whether or not capital punishment is something we want to do, but the circumstances are flawed. this man, robert campbell has had a series of mishaps of justice that has befallen him that should give the governor pause, but the question is, will it? >> yeah. the thing is, there has been overall support for the death penalty. it's going down in popularity, but there's capital for
politicians. you saw some double and triple down even with the horrifically botched one, 43 minutes. there's a difficulty in galvanizing simp think for the defendants unless there's a suggestion they might be innocent like in georgia where you saw massive protests because of the question of innocence. when that's not on the table, i think the tide of political capital waves for the politicians. remember the execution years and years ago with bill clinton. in a red state, politics favor going through with it. >> it's amazing. i want to talk about our hunger for execution. advocates will say who cares about cruel and unusual. we are executing them and we should. that is on one hand. at the other, on the other hand rksz we know that there are advocates of justice. we know texas, alone, accounted for 40% of the nation's
executions. that is a strange badge to wear given how flawed the process in and around capital punishment is. i guess i wonder, when you look at the question of mental illness and how texas, for example, treats those with mental illness, they rank 46 out of 50 in terms of u.s. state that is spend money on mental illness. clearly, something is going wrong there. beyond that, prisons hold ten times more mental health patients than state hospitals. >> sort of cold efficiency texas carries out with the criminal justice system. juvenile justice to the death penalty is chilling. this is a state in 2000, executed seven people in 15 days. other states go to and consult or carry out executions. i think there's a blitheness with which texas has become the execution capital of the country. there isn't questioning of it
inside of texas. i think the larger country can look at texas, but not really question. it's amazing to me we have never had a big, national conversation, do we want to be in this business. we look at the incompetence of oklahoma and say look at that or texas and the efficiency. we haven't had a national conversation of this isn't a business we want to be in with iran. >> that's executing broadly. when it comes to lethal injection, which is very much being litigated. judges in oklahoma tried to stay that execution and because of partisan pressure and political pressure, it overturned their own stay effectively. european drug makers and certain drug makers in the u.s. don't want to be in this business of lethal injections. on some level, i do not support capital punishment and applaud their decision for a more humane world. it's had unwitting side effect of making executions less humane
and more cruel and more unusual to the degree we are talking about firing squads. >> absolutely. we are having a situation where they are making the drugs unavailable and driving executions under ground. we have secret drug cocktails or the one drug they have used for a long time. it's a secret where they got it. the moral question, i think, is still on the table about whether to do it aall. to your point, the american people don't want to see it. they don't want to be a part of the cruelty of it, they just want it done. >> the vast majority of the people affected are poor and people of color. >> indeed. that's a whole other conversation. >> yes, it is. host of "the reid report," joy reid. you can catch "the rooet report" at 2:00 p.m. on msnbc. just ahead, president obama had kind words for speaker john
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unsurprisingly, in his remarks to the hispanic chamber of commerce in san antonio, he has an optimistic outlook of where things stand on reform. i do believe the vast majority of our members do want to deal with it openly, honestly and fairly. they do? a vast majority of his members want to deal with this? this is news to most people, but especially anyone who heard the speaker's assessment of his own members a few weeks ago. >> the appetite amongst my colleagues for doing this is not real good. this guy is back here with a camera. here is the attitude, oh, don't make me do this. oh, this is too hard. you should hear them. >> joining me now is washington bureau chief for buzz feed, john stanton. which is the more honest john as it were? the ohio john boehner or the san
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65 is not that old. in terms of speakership, there's been a lot of prognosticating of whether or not giving up the gavel or the prospect of giving up the gavel might actually be, you know, gas in the tank as far as immigration reform. >> what you are seeing is john boehner, right now, is probably running for speaker and expecting to be speaker. you know, he's sort of leaving it open, as he does. he hasn't made up his mind, depends on how things go the next few months, if they win seats more than they have in the election, he stays. if they lose a few or stay put, he will probably stay. if they lose a lot of seats and get close to losing the majority, maybe you might see him retire, but, you know, it's clear to me he's got to the point where he's no longer going to back away now. like, things are not going so badly for republicans in the election cycle and on the hill that he's going to make the decision that i don't want to be around next year and deal with
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the president is embracing them a little bit and making them run away and gives democrats cover. they are coming under a lot of pressure from immigration organizations and members of the latino organization to try to get something done this year. it sort of helps them in the long term, if you are looking at 2016 to not have something get done and have it be blamed on the republicans. the further he can push them away, the better it is for democrats politically. >> right. there is the ultimate question, what would democrats accept if republicans wanted to play ball. buzz feed's john stanton, thank you as always, my friend. coming up, so much for rand paul's big, fat departure on voter id laws. did you think the gop was ready to come clean on voter suppression. rand's rewind is just ahead. we asked people a question,
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screeching halt. >> that was senate minority leader, harry reid delivering a speech yesterday. what got harry reid so angry? the answer involves the other usually functional house of representatives. in march, the house did something it almost never does, passed a piece of bipartisan legislation almost unanimously. it's designed to cut homeowner use, energy bills and carbon footprints. eric cantor had this to say at the time. >> we, in congress, can't do much about the cold weather, but we can enact sensible policy that is expand energy supplies and reduce costs. that's exactly what we are doing in the house this week. >> so far, so good. if eric cantor can put a gold star on a bill, then surely the
bill would have to pass through the upper chamber where reason and logic have not evaporated into thin air, right? wrong. as soon as it was kicked over, they buried it. including one that would have authorized the controversial and fill think keystone pipeline. why else? because it's an election year. a co-sponsor, gene shaheen is currently in a tight re-election bid against scott brown. and, even if, according to the authors, the bill might have helped 200,000 americans get a job, why do anything that might give a democrat a leg up? so, last night, after republicans refused to budge on their demands, they threatened to filibuster the bill that guaranteed the failure in a vote of 55-36. all but three republicans voted against it. joining me now from washington is vermont's independent senator, bernie sanders.
thank you for joining me. i feel like last night was a line in the sand in terms of the naked political calculation that eric cantor and the house republicans could pass an energy bill that could not make it through the senate for purely political gain. what did you make of the event that is unfolded last night? >> you are right. i think it's pathetic. this was a modest bill. this was supported by the chamber of commerce and other business groups. most of the provisions were voluntary. i had a stronger amendment that was not in the bill. this was a fairly modest amendment to do something everybody understands is a win/win situation. we waste enormous amounts of energy because we are not strong on energy efficiency and weatherization. that is the cheapest way to cut energy costs. but what happened here in the
senate, as you indicated, republicans filibuster and we got all of three republican votes. that tells me that politics are obviously trumps everything. the republicans are absolutely obstructionists and not concerned about passing serious legislation but only political advantage. >> let's talk about the keystone provision that was batted around. keystone has been a political football and continues to be. the senate republicans were asking for, you know, independent votes on it. that's fallen by the wayside. i wonder if you think the white house's decision to delay the ultimate decision, the ultimate approval of keystone until after the midterms exasperates the situation, whether it continues to create a football that can be tossed from side-to-side. >> look, i don't know the answer to that. this is what i do know, front
page new york times, signists warn of polar melt. a study came out about dire consequences for the united states and the world unless we cut greenhouse gas emissions and address the crisis of climate change. the keystone pipeline, if we pass that, this will be a signal to the entire world that we are not serious about moving away from fossil fuel and transforming our energy system into energy efficiency and sustainable energy. i have to say something else, alex, it is no great secret the koch brothers who make their money in fossil fuels and other energy companies spend huge amounts of money in elections. i think it is really, really sad that many of my republican colleagues are willing to sacrifice the future of the planet for their own kids and their grandchildren because big energy companies and the koch brothers are saying that they do
not want action on climate change, they are suggesting that climate change may not be the result of human activity. you had a smart guy, marco rubio, he's nobody's fool, getting up saying, i may be running for president. i do not believe that climate change is attached or caused by human activity, despite what the entire scientific community is saying. it is campaign contributions overriding the science on this. this is really a sad, sad situation. >> the ice sheets are falling apart and melting and congress is unable to pass the most benign of energy bills. thank you for your time and thoughts. >> thank you. joining me now is daryl hannah. thanks so much for joining me. you heard senator sanders there. here is -- >> the voice of clarity. >> exactly.
from your perspective, you know, i feel like we are talking more about climate change than we have in several election cycles. >> i think we have moved beyond the flat earth society phase. there's not many people who don't recognize this is something we are experiencing the ramifications of. >> do you think we are closer to actual action? there are people on capitol hill that seem unwilling to -- there are climate change deniers out there. we have literally the visuals of ice sheets in antarctica melting. >> the majority of the climate deniers out there and the majority of the inaction is directly related to the fact that there's vested interest, the wealthiest industry in the history of mankind, the oil industry does not want to change its practices. they don't want to be taxed for pollution. they don't want a price on carbon. they don't want to inhibit further expansion, extreme
extraction practices like mountain top removals, deep water drilling and things we actually, if we want to save ourselves and save this planet for future generations or do the best we can towards trying to do that, then we really have to move towards building the infrastructure for renewable energy, self-sufficient, domestic energy that really will offer jobs and security here at home. >> i feel like that context is right, if we want to save ourselves. it's actually up to ourselves if we want to save ourselves. there's an announcement today, the administration, this government is considering lifting the crude oil export ban in the u.s. which would make it easier to export oil in the keystone pipeline. >> this is where a lot of confusion is. i believe there's more people really do their research and understand what keystone is, it is an export pipeline.
that oil from the sands is intended for transport. the ceo inform canada admitted it himself. if we allow that pipeline to pass through our heartland which is suffering severe draught for a third of the nation's ranch and farmlands rk it's going to be a con due it of the dirtiest, dirtiest form of oil extraction on the planet. it puts out tons of methane and more co2, is incredibly water intentionive and they are planning on multiplying the mines times five. they don't have an avenue to get the oil out to export. >> there's a lot of talk about this administration sort of splits it baby, if you will on a lot of issues. so, they may approve keystone and release in june strict e.p.a. guidelines relating to existing coal plants. from your perspective, does that make it better? >> no, one does not offset the
other. you know, it's like, the whole notion of sort of offsets, i'm just going to pollute and make as big of a mess as i want then plant some trees. basically, let's not pollute. we can, we have the technology, we have the know how, we have the will of people that want to go to work to create the infrastructure to power us. keystone has nothing to do with that. keystone will raise our gas prices because the oil we are processing in oklahoma will be bypassed by keystone to go to the coast to be exported. so, you know, this whole thing has brought like the senator said, a big boom. it's a mess. you cannot do both things. that's one thing we have learned from the obama administration. you can't try to make everybody happy. if you want to be a leader, if
you really want to be a leader, you have to make decisions that may not be popular with some people. you can't make everyone happy. you have to make bold choices. i believe president obama, this is his decision, still. he needs to be a bold leader and say we are going to move into the future in the healthiest way possible to protect citizens. the federal government is not doing that. they are listening to the money that puts them in office, unfortunately. >> you have been at the front lines of this. you have been at the protests. >> to farmers and ranchers homes that have their land taken through eminent domain. >> are they the people that are going to convince the administration? >> they are trying. i was in washington, d.c., a week and a half ago with farmers, ranchers and alliance of first nations communities and native americans from canada down through texas through all the state that is the keystone is going to pass through. this was a group of
conservatives, liberals. >> bipartisan. >> totally bipartisan. water is not red or blue. the things we need to sustain ourselves is not republican or democrat. these people were solemnly and seriously and in a committed way saying no, we will not allow this to pass through our land. over 80,000 people signed a pledge of resistist ens if it gets approved. >> the delay, i don't think it was politically motivated to push it past the midterm elections. there was an actual inappropriate law that allowed it to pass through nebraska and allowed people's land to be taken through imminent domain. the delay was because -- >> well, it is an ongoing question. thank you so much for your thoughts.
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i will see you back here tomorrow at 4:00 p.m. eastern. "the ed show" is coming up next. good evening, americans and wol come to theed show in new york. i'm ready to go. let's get to work. >> we have a good, bipartisan bill. let's pass it. >> we know the shift to clean energy won't happen over night. >> i do not believe human activity is causing these dramatic changes to the climate. >> they are wasting everybody's time on a settled debate. >> the cleanest barrel of oil produced in north america. >> oil is oil. >> our future, i believe, is very much tied to energy. >> i do not believe the laws they propose we pass will do anything about it. >> the tar sands should not be
brought into this country. >> splitting at toms between oil that is almost identical is not producti productive. >> we have to make tough choices. >> pull out his pen and sign that. it's time to build it. >> it will destroy our economy. >> good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. what is your definition of a trap? now, up north, there are people that make a living by trapping and a lot of folks are against that. they just don't think it's fair to the animals. but a trap, when you trap a bear there's no exit. when you trap that animal, there's no exit. so, a trap is pretty conclusive. a trap is there's no other way out. what is your definition of a political trap? would that be
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