tv The Cycle MSNBC March 20, 2015 12:00pm-1:01pm PDT
caliphate. i'm ari melber. death is rising on the largest attack outside of iraq or syria. we can tell you at least 137 worshippers are dead and hundreds more injured after suicide bombers struck three mosques and a government building in yemen during friday prayers. the most crowded time of the week. children and elderly are among the dead. witnesses say the blood was, quote, running like a river there. the rebel group inside yemen pledged allegiance to isis this fall and that makes this the first high-caliber isis attack in region and a trend that could expand. isis has received vows of allegiance across several continents and announcing this is just the tip of the iceberg. >> we deplor the brutality of
the terrorists who provoked attacks on those peacefully engaging on friday prayers. the united states and the coalition partners are very aware of just how dangerous the ideology and tactics of isil are. >> nbc alistair jamison is following the attacks from london and we saw attacks in tunis. what is the latest? >> absolutely. horrific scenes coming from yemen. this attack took place shortly after midday as hundreds of thousands of worshipers arrived for friday prayers an the international red cross said many were children boips that came to pray with their fathers and within a couple of hours, a group affiliated to isis has claimed responsibility. hasn't provided any evidence so far that it is responsible, but what we do know is that isis has
threatened to take its message to other countries, including yemen. and this is a huge grim turning point, not just a terrible humage tragedy but a grim turning point for yemen. for many months now it has been fighting between two rival groups for control. the shiite has surround the presidential palace and the president hadi has had to move his seat and these two rebel groups could be fighting isis and that means yemen could descend into a complex and bloody civil war. and of course that echoes the kind of chaos we've been seeing across the border in libya which still has two rival governments. this is a big problem for yemen and the united states. yemen is a huge ally of the u.s. and conducted most of the war on terror operations in the region
particularly the drone strikes that take out militants, those have been launched from u.s. bases inside of yemen. and without the level of stability and a stable government it hampers the u.s. war on terror in the region. the u.s. has had to close the embassy in yemen and this has serious implications for the pentagon. in the meantime doctors at various hospitals treating it injured tell us the death toll could rise further beyond 137. they are treating more than 300 injured at the moment but many of those are suffering serious injuryies indeed. abby. >> alistair jame is in london. thank you. with us is laith alkhouri and lara yaks from news at foreign policy. and laith, these attacks in yemen, are these lone wolf attacks that isis claimed responsibility for because they
want to prove relevance or is this something isis has been behind helping plan before now and is there a significant difference between the two? >> isis has been trying to find relevance within a number of countries around the world whether they have operational territory there or not. in the case of yemen, the leader of isis,al bagdadi and the spokesperson both vowed in recordings previously they will take the fight to the houthis in yemen and this appears to be directly the work of isis. they have received a pledge after leithance from yemen and others that are disenfranchised from al qaeda's practice or ideology and so it appears this is carrying out the vow that al baghdadi said would take place. >> and speak to this goal a terror group that wants to attack targets all over the
place and results. so the question to you, are we seeing results and is isis getting to a place where it is able to project for us beyond the battlefield in iraq and syria and attack elsewhere. >> we are seeing isis metastasize where we thought the strong point was in iraq and syria. we are seeing it in yemen obviously and in tunisia. in afghanistan there have been some reports, in nigeria there have been reports. broek boko haram is now associating itself with isis. and what we're hearing from experts is this is isis trying to prove it is in fact a harder and harsher force against shia islam than even al qaeda is. and what we saw a little while ago is al qaeda in yemen disassociating itself from these attacks and disavowing actually any attacks in -- on mosques. so that is haram in islam by
almost all standards -- >> what does that mean? >> i'm sorry, haram is for forbidden. and this is such a forbidden thing to target people in mosques, women and children and that even al qaeda has disassociated itself from it. >> and you mentioned at tack in tunisia, there are lessons we can learn about the way isis strategically thinks. and laith, today it was written, on the screen had the planners of this week's attack quite wanted to they could have decapitated more than half of the country's government in an hour or so after all, the museum lies less than 100 meters from the obscenely ill defended parliament building where the bulk of the country's elected leadership was in house.
how far could they go and could this have been succeeded. >> they give directions and some take weeks or months in planning. in the case of the museum attack we cannot know if these individuals traveled overseas or just received instructions online and pledged allegiance in a lone wolf style in adherence to the ideology of isis. but it appears in either case isis is trying to act as an octopus, the tentacles trying to reach around the region and we are not ready to seen every single soft target like inattack. it is a difficult, difficult road ahead. >> lara what we've heard from experts is that the day of isis holding on to the territory in syria and iraq and having this caliphate and semi functioning government have to be remembering that that is not sustainable and do you agree with that and as we see them
under more threat in terms of holding that territory are we going to see more attacks like this outside of what they view as the caliphate? >> i would go back to the fact that a couple of months ago, or a few months ago in the summer that the united states was launching this attack against isis, and there is evidence of isis in afghanistan, in nigeria, in yemen, in tunisia. isis had not been present in yemen and tunisia in terms of attacks and operations prior to this week. and then i would just take you back and point you to the battle of tikrit. as recently as a few days ago people were saying that iraqi forces an the shia militias and some iraqi commanders on the ground in tikrit which is saddam hussein's home town they were going to retake this town and that has not happened and it has
stalled and it is unknown whether isis will be pushed back even from that place in iraq. >> lara jakes and laith alkhouri thank you so much. >> thank you. next up it may be the first day of spring but nobody told mother nature. the northeast being pelted with a snowstorm. we'll go to the ground and maps and tell you what you need to know. and boehner heading to israel, yes, off the wake of netanyahu election. and the investigation into robert durst is going national. is he linked to other crimes across the country? we'll tell you. "the cycle" rolls on for friday, march 20th. it was hard to know why... the move...her food...? so we tried purina cat chow gentle... ...because it's specially formulated for easy digestion. she's loved it ever since.
and as for her and ben... ...she's coming around. purina cat chow gentle. one hundred percent complete and balanced for everyday feeding of adult cats. [ female announcer ] we help make secure financial tomorrows a reality for over 19 million people. [ susan ] my promotion allowed me to start investing for my retirement. transamerica made it easy. [ female announcer ] everyone has a moment when tomorrow becomes real. transamerica. transform tomorrow. curling up in bed with a ... ...favorite book is nice. but i think women would rather curl up with their favorite man. but here's the thing: about half of men over 40 have some degree of erectile dysfunction. well, viagra helps guys with ed get and keep an erection. and remember, you only take it when you need it. ask your doctor if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take viagra if you take nitrates for chest pain; it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure side effects include headache, flushing, upset stomach and abnormal vision. to avoid long-term injury, seek immediate medical help
for an erection lasting more than four hours. stop taking viagra and call your doctor right away if you experience a sudden decrease or loss in vision or hearing. ask your doctor about viagra. constipated? .yea dulcolax tablets can cause cramps but not phillips. it has magnesium and works more naturally than stimulant laxatives. for gentle cramp free relief of occasional constipation that works! mmm mmm live the regular life.
female announcer: you're on the right track to save big during sleep train's triple choice sale. for a limited time you can choose up to 48 months interest-free financing on a huge selection of tempur-pedic models. or choose to save hundreds on simmons beautyrest mattress sets. you can even choose $300 in free gifts with sleep train's most popular stearns & foster mattresses. the triple choice sale ends soon at sleep train. ♪ sleep train ♪ your ticket to a better night's sleep ♪
32 million americans are under winter weather advisories and it is the first day of spring. the weather channel's rick adams is driving around new york city right now in what is supposed to be springtime weather. rick, what is going on? >> krystal, you really can't blame me for the fact this weather is happening it. has absolutely nothing to do with me and i know i work for the weather channel and we don't. we don't control it. and my cameraman is driving us through the meat packing district. i think he's trying to take me clubbing. i'm not sure. but if you look out the front of the car, you see we have thick snow coming in right now. and it is around 33 degrees. and you can see ahead of us the visibility is going down if you
saw us within the last hour or so. and that means precipitation is high as well. and that means it will be coming in still thick and hard for a good many hours yet. that means that new yorkers will experience a good 3-4 inches on the ground here. although not accumulating quite as quickly as we anticipated in central park from the readings there because basically it is so wet and that will change later on for drivers and people generally driving around new york it will be treacherous as things freed up later on. but tomorrow is the day we're hoping spring will start again because today was a bit of a snow-out or a wash-out or whatever you want to call it. it has affected people's travels, locally arriving and effecting delays by 3 1/2 hours. so if you were going to meet
someone, check that because you may be waiting 3 1/2 hours and we don't want that to have you. we are on -- washington street. we are all trapped in the car and we are becoming fast friends. and spring is going to happen tomorrow. around 50 degrees plus and nice in new york and i'll be here for five minutes to experience it thank you very much. back to you guys. >> i'm going to hold you to that. rick adams, thank you so much. and nbc's ron allen is traveling on i-95 in d.c. what does it look like there in d.c.? >> we've made our way north and we're in new jersey. we're at exit 7-a. trenton and lawrenceville. my family lives around here. maybe i'll stop off and say hello and see how they are doing. this is about as bad as it's been. it is snowing hard and there is accumulation on the road. we've seen plows come along and
removing snow off the road. this has started in the last hour across the new jersey line. this is heading your way. if not already, i don't know what is happening in new york. very treacherous conditions which is why i'm not driving. you can see on the camera i think you can see out in front of us. the temperature is around 32 degrees so it is now freezing and i can imagine the teams will -- the temperatures will go down before they go back up tomorrow. this is a storm we've been chasing it from maryland all the way up. we've caught it despite our best efforts not to. and this is it and it is spring and got news is it won't be around for a long time but we'll deal with it for a long time. >> it looks messy out there. thanks, ron for the report. and let's bring in msnbc meteorologist domenica davis.
>> we have the equinox and the new moon tonight. and where we just saw ron, that is the heaviest snow bands. so along the coast, south of atlantic city we're seeing it push into the northwestern part of the philadelphia suburbs, sleet coming in and on the grassy surfaces through new york as well and the leading edge is pushing into new england. this will get out of here by tonight. we'll see some lingering snow tomorrow up through massachusetts and parts of upstate new york. and here is a look at future-cast. because the evening commute is still a tricky one. so you have to be careful. this is heavy, wet snow. and much of the accumulation is on grassy surfaces but we'll see the roads become slick by tonight. so 8:00 on the back eighth of this. but the heaviest snow bands are still over the eastern shores of new jersey and then long island. and that is where we're expecting the most snow.
by 11:00 tonight we could see a few light isolated snow showers. but then moving out of here. we're looking at a swath of about 3-6 and an additional inch in philadelphia and an additional inch in new york and 4 inches in the hampton because it is around long island where the snow will linger the longest as it clears out. here is the good thing. on saturday, eastern massachusetts, upstate new york we'll start with snow showers and teams really rebound. so we're in the 30s today. we'll jump by about 15-20 degrees. 15 for new york tomorrow. d.c. will make it to 63. out to the west they are in on the spring weather. highs and temperatures better. beautiful out to the west for this weekend. down to the south, it is going to be a rainy start to the spring season with thunderstorms right through the central plains and down through the south, not only saturday but sunday as well. so happy spring, guys.
>> domenica davis, we appreciate it. and more fallout from the israel election. why six more years for netanyahu could be a challenge for hillary clinton in 2016 or maybe for everyone else for that matter. there were people who listened along the way. people who gave me options. kept me on track. and through it all my retirement never got left behind. so today, i'm prepared for anything we may want tomorrow to be. every someday needs a plan. let's talk about your old 401(k) today. [ male announcer ] at northrop grumman, we know in the cyber world, threats are always evolving. at first we were protecting networks. then, we were protecting the transfer of data. and today it's evolved to infrastructure... ♪ ♪ ...finance... and military missions. we're constantly
innovating to advance the front line in the cyber battle, wherever it takes us. that's the value of performance. northrop grumman. ♪ edith piaf "no regrets" ♪ plays throughout ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [ aniston ] when people ask me what i'm wearing, i tell them aveeno®. [ female announcer ] aveeno® daily moisturizing lotion has active naturals® oat with five vital nutrients.
and developing now, new details about millionaire real estate heir robert durst. the fbi wants to know if he is linked to other cold cases. sarah dallof has more on that case. >> reporter: the investigation is going national. authorities in places he's been linked to, taking a look with fresh eyes at old cold cases to see if patterns emerges. the fbi assisting them in this effort. durtsz has lived in -- durst has lived in vermont, new york texas and cal-- california. he was arrested here in new orleans on a warrant out of california and today his legal
team has filed paperwork asking the judge to schedule a preliminary hearing so they can argue -- his arrest was illegal and there is no probable cause to keep him in jail. the judge will schedule that hearing on monday when durst is in court for a bond hearing on weapons charges. his legal team also filed another motion asking for surveillance video from the hotel at the time of the arrest as well as phone records and key card records shaping up to a very interesting week in court and trial. >> sounds fascinating. a case with no end in site. and persians are preparing for a new year and nar ooze translates to new day and as sect of kerry wraps up this week's nuclear talks. >> this year we have the best opportunity to decades to pursue a different year between our countries.
now our diplomats and scientists are engaged in negotiations in the hopes of finding a comprehensive negotiation that follows our concerns with iran's nuclear programs. my message to you, the people of iran, is that together we have to speak up for future we seek. this is what is at stake today and this moment might not come too soon. >> and secretary kerry said the negotiations will continue soonly and he'll do that tomorrow before flying home to washington. but first republicans are throwing another potential curveball into the nuclear talks. speaker boehner and others are heading to israel for the deadline on the iran deal and meeting with benjamin netanyahu on the 31st, after hosting him on the hill this month. daniel knowles, thank you so much for being here. let's start with the boehner trip. we know what he gets from this politically back home and we imagine he can get some points
as he is locked in an intense relationship with netanyahu. but is there anything boehner can hope to gain from this trip? >> there is genuine relief on the republican side that a deal with iran is something that you can't trust, that the iranians will go back on it. there is some sort of solution which involves being tougher that the president is planning something that will be too weak on them and not prevent a deal. i think there is a genuine belief in that and they want the actual proposal that they would offer is a lot less clear. >> daniel i want to get your thoughts on something that robert freedman is writing about, that bibi moves on the lukeid party and he writes when the official government of israel is a far-right party that rejects a two-state solution and
employees anti arab dog whistles to get elected, it will split the basic unit of the mesh jewish community on israel. do you think that is correct? and on the feeling of democrats and republicans, do you think the way he got elected will change that dynamic? >> i think with netanyahu coming to congress and john boehner visiting him, it is a more partisan support for netanyahu. israeli relations have been up and down. and there were arguments over loan guarantees and bill clinton had resignations and most over all jews in america vote democrat. and there is a generational split, younger american jews
polling suggests they may have affection for israel but it is less clear-cut. for america's long-term relations with israel, it can become a more bipartisan thing. >> the cover of the new york times has a cover the impact on 2016 especially on hillary clinton, because we like to talk about the future and 2016 and the title is israel election results complicated life for clinton and she moves closer to making her campaign for 2016 official and now she faces jewish democrats and how the united states should deal with his government. i would broaden this out to all of the candidates running in 2016. what impact will this have on them, will they have to pick a side and if that is the case is that problematic for someone like hillary clinton? >> i think for hillary it is problematic because she has made
a case of being more forceful of pro-israel and she's made several comments in the last few years about the peace process and more particularly during the last gaza war. so it is difficult for hillary because ultimately she wants to be seen as a pragmatist someone who will keep pushing for a peace deal with israel and the palestinians and at the same time she doesn't want to divide the israeli base. for her it is more difficult than it is for republicans who have no particular interest in pushing a palestinian peace deal and don't seem so pragmatic. >> i hear what you are saying. i think we should be careful not to suppress the votes of american jews which is a small population that doesn't swing anywhere other than maybe florida, and the larger question of where israel as an ally and sometimes a competitor in middle
east priorities fits into american voters' sense of what we want to do. and so i wonder if you could speak to the fact that in the long-term, if there is a deal with iran that americans are open to the question isn't whether that is good for israel but to americans whether it is good for us? because israel simply has, because it is closer in the neighborhood and has other reasons, has different strategic interests in containing iran than we do. >> yes. that is absolutely true. america and iran have some quite similar interests in what is happening in iraq and afghanistan and have for some time. and people on the republican side you hope this will be a national security election in 2016. that the images of isis terrorist beheadings will motivate americans to take a hardline view of foreign policy
that it doesn't fit into and whether that hardline will hold as we get into the election is quite an interesting question. i think most americans are probably skeptical of iran. i don't know how much policy influences elections that directly, the details and nuances of dealing with iran i think could get lost in a lot of shouting essentially. >> and i want to get your thoughts, blake mentioned at the top the president put out that was directed at young people in iran urging them to put pressure on the political leadership to go through with the deal. what do you make of that video? do you think that it will have an impact there? >> well i don't know particularly about the video. i don't know how much iranians will see this. but iran is not sort of a single-power state in the way that north korea is. there is internal division. for a long time western european
and american pressure has been put on trying to help the reformist sides within the iranian administration. they come up and they go down. there is a essential population in iran who are quite well educated who are more outward looking and worried about the country's isolation and they do have influence. and yeah we mustn't think of iran of being a single regime with straightforward aims. it can change as it hasn't but it can. so i think the president is trying to achieve something there. but it is -- this all adds up. iranians need to think they are not being treated as enemies if the reform is going to have any success i think. >> just days after an election a lot going on there in the region. daniel knowles thank you for your insights. and chuck todd will have much more on the relationship this sunday on "meet the press." straight ahead, what the
next generation wants from their news, and you may be surprised. it's a significant improvement over the infiniti we had... i've had a lot of hondas... we went around the country talking to people who made the switch to ford. the brand more people buy. and buy again. all-wheel drive is amazing... i felt so secure. i really enjoy the pep in its step... that's the ecoboost... the new image of ford now looks really refined. i drove the fusion... and i never went back. escape was just right. just announced, make the switch to ford and get $750 competitive owner cash on top of other offers at your local ford dealer.
sunday dinners at my house... it's a full day for me, and i love it. but when i started having back pain my sister had to come help. i don't like asking for help. i took tylenol but i had to take six pills to get through the day. so my daughter brought over some aleve. it's just two pills, all day! and now, i'm back! aleve. two pills. all day strong, all day long. and now introducing aleve pm for a better am. you get sick you can't breathe through your nose suddenly, you're a mouth breather. a mouth breather! well, put on a breathe right strip and shut your mouth. cold medicines open your nose over time, but add a breathe right strip and pow, it opens your nose up to 38% more. so you can breathe and do the one thing you want to do sleep. add breathe right to your cold medicine shut your mouth and sleep right. breathe right. and look for the calming scent of new breathe right lavender in the sleep aisle.
welcome back. in a new study by the american press institute proves what seemed obvious for years, the future of news is online. that is good for abby's adventurous and the web show and ari. and most go to the web for news and millennials are still getting news accidentally. 90% were exposed to news on facebook and even if most didn't go to the website to get the news. the journalism in the anyone of the accidental news junky and joining us to discuss it is derek thompson senior editor at the atlantic. interesting study. what stood out were two takeaways, people aren't uninterested in news we crave news but we don't get it from
regular sources. only 3% get it from national tv. 4% from local tv and 2% from newspapers. more feel go to wikipedia than national tv and the number one source for people is google. 51% get their news from google. did any of this surprise you? >> didn't surprise me by kind but degree. what surprised me was there is an accidental news junky. somebody who isn't interested in the hard news of the day but by fact of the way they are spending so much time on facebook, there is this expertise without opening up the news. >> because there senl 140 characters. >> if you want "the new york times," go to the new york times
times. but if you are on facebook everybody is trying to find you. you don't have to take the extra step of figuring out more. >> so let's talk about what kind of quote, unquote news is being consumed. you have the top 15 most engaging articles according to huff post on facebook and it is things like 109-year-old women gives a remarkable reason for her long life. the likely cause after digs is discovered and it is not -- of addiction is discovered and it is not what you think. i was pleasantly surprised they weren't celebrities, here is what kim kardashian or kanye west said and uplifting stories but not hard news. >> you will not find an a-1 at the new york times. but one of the principals on facebook which is the home for news for today and for the foreseeable future is 30 ways to
know you are 30 years old. and this woman that could be my neighbor and the stories do sound like the back of a community newspaper, like the fun stories that aren't at all international or -- >> like what you see on buzzfeed. >> it very much is. and i think buzzfeed has been a leader in figuring out exactly what sort of principals people like in news that succeed on facebook. >> it is sort of the thing you could find on msnbc.com. >> or on krystal clear, wednesday at 11:00 a.m. >> and you talk about relate ability, isn't that the formula that local tv news has been. you talk about the accidental news junky and i think there is something to that but we've had that accidental news junky if you look at tv and i want to watch something, flip around the channels and i accidentally come around something on a local newscast or national or network and we're getting things accidentally that way. isn't this a similar concept, just a simple form? >> i totally agree.
i don't think this is a huge break. technology changes but human psychology doesn't. the same things we are interested in are the same things we've been interested in for 100 years. with facebook it has shown that the sort of things we want to read about aren't necessarily the things that the -- that news organizations think we want to know about. one of my favorite stories is that in 1920 george gallop for goal on polling when he was a student at the university of iowa, what stories do you want to read they said local news international news and serious international news and he went this their houses and said what have you read and it turned out the cartoons was the most read. it is not a problem, but it is how we relate to things around us. >> what makes you feel good. >> and you mentioned "the new york times" and this is not where people are getting their
news. what does this mean for the new york times and how do they get people to attract them. >> i use it as a standard bear for newspapers but you are seeing every news organization realize that because young people aren't paying that much for news and because they are going to seeshl media streams to find it you have to make some part of your news product free and designed explicitly -- >> because only 40% of young people are cool for paying for news. we're not sure if that is high or a low number. >> i think there is what is called moderator bias. i think you have some young people on the phone with some nice sur with this organization and lying because they don't want to disappoint them or necessarily be seen as people who aren't seeking news. so whenever i'm looking at surveys like this i always slightly discount any number
that seems to make young people or any survey group look good. >> do you think the news that is sort of randomly gathered from the facebook or twitter feed could it be a gateway drug to a bigger interest in harder news? >> yes. i think the harder question to answer and perhaps the most important question is this good or bad? and more specifically, is this better or worse than the status quo of the 1990s? i don't have the answer to that question. i don't think that we do. it is hard to measure awareness of news that matters so that it makes you a better engager in your democracy. this is an impossible metric to pin down on. so i don't know that we have an answer there. i think it is more important like an anthropologist what are people doing to get their news and after that we can think about value judgment. >> and josh barrow is a friend of the show he doesn't read any
[ hoof beats ] i wish... please, please, please, please, please. [ male announcer ] the wish we wish above all...is health. so we quit selling cigarettes in our cvs pharmacies. expanded minuteclinic for walk-in medical care. and created programs that encourage people to take their medications regularly. introducing cvs health. a new purpose. a new promise... to help all those wishes come true. cvs health. because health is everything. there's nothing more romantic than a spontaneous moment. so why pause to take a pill? and why stop what you're doing to find a bathroom? with cialis for daily use, you don't have to plan around either. it's the only daily tablet approved to treat erectile dysfunction so you can be ready anytime the moment is right. plus cialis treats the frustrating urinary symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently, day or night. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain
as it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess. side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache or muscle ache. to avoid long-term injury, get medical help right away for an erection lasting more than four hours. if you have any sudden decrease or loss in hearing or vision or any symptoms of an allergic reaction stop taking cialis and get medical help right away. why pause the moment? ask your doctor about cialis for daily use. for a free 30-tablet trial go to cialis.com jack's heart attack didn't come with a warning. today, his doctor has him on a bayer aspirin regimen to help reduce the risk of another one. if you've had a heart attack be sure to talk to your doctor before your begin an aspirin regimen.
i want my foyer to smell more like a foyer. i want his bedroom to smell like he's away at boarding school. surround yourself with up to 6 hours of luxurious, long-lasting scents... ...introducing new unstopables air refresher. [ female announcer ] we help make secure financial tomorrows a reality for over 19 million people. [ alex ] transamerica helped provide a lifetime of retirement income. so i can focus on what matters most. [ female announcer ] everyone has a moment when tomorrow becomes real. transamerica. that is all your house is a place to keep your stuff while gow out and get more stuff. now, sometimes -- sometimes you
have to move. you have to get a bigger house. why? too much stuff. >> sadly so true. the late great george carlin of course. and gentlemen, spring cleaning is in the air, even if the snow is on the ground. for many of us getting rid of stuff isn't all that easy. after all, there are memories attached to many of our things. but our next guest's new book stuff-ocation, it is making us less happy and innovative ways to live more with less and here is the book's author james wallman spent years spotting trends for bmw and nicki and -- nike and ikea. and this is how our country is going through a culture. >> thanks for having me on. >> i'm been an evangelist for
your book all week and i hope it is changing my life. and in the introduction you say until recently the capitalist system we have been living in was largely based on a consumer who was materialistic, in that world, greed was good more was better and material goods were the best way to keep up with the joanes. they aren't any more. what has changed? >> the success of the system. materialistic consumerism has transformed in the 21st century and we believe in it more and more and the more we spent money on buying things the more that created more wealth because it gave somebody a job to sell the stuff to us and somebody distributed it and it created advertising and this wonderful virtuous circle where the world got better and better but we've gotten to the point -- similar to the obesity problem. if you go back 1 huchb years -- 100 years to 1915 people had
problem finding enough food to feed the family but in 2015 we have the obesity epidemic because the magic of the consumer and industrial evolution has completely changed the way the world is. we have abundance, not scarity and it is exactly the same with stuff. we've gone from a situation where we didn't have much scarcity, to so much abundance that i can write a book on stuff and people feel the problem of having too much stuff in their homes and lives. >> and people are feeling the problem and doing something about it and moving to an experiential economy. >> this is the shift. it will be the most exciting change of our generation and our lives. as we move from thinking to the best place to find happiness, identity and status and meaning is in material stuff, that is materialism, so actually changing our ways realizing that material goods, more and more stuff is not making us
happy, it is making people stressed and depressed in record enoughs and we realize the best place to find happiness is in experiences instead. >> this is such a great book to read as we're approaching spring cleaning. and krystal was curled up on our couch knee deep in this book and it is really good advice. and sometimes you don't realize how much stuff you have build up over time until you move and you realize, i haven't touched any of this for years. and a big part of that is you get emotionally connected with the things you have and you think i might use this another time, maybe in a few months or something and then you never do. how do you change the way you think about this so you are not connected to the things you have? >> that is a really great question because it is a problem that all of us have. we watch these hoarding shows. i think there is a secret hoard in every one of us.
too much stuff coming in and too little stuff going out and the sense that they can't get rid of things because they think that it might come in handy one day or they think or they think it is particularly useful and they feel guilty getting rid of it because they were given it for their birthday or wedding gift. we struggle to get rid of things particularly those things that have emotional connections for us. the starting place is definitely by tidying up but getting rid of the stuff. the way to do that in a way that is less painful and a way that won't upset you -- there's obviously stuff in the book about this -- is to have a keep a throw, and a maybe pile when you go through your closet or your room whatever you start with. the magic of the maybe pile is it softens the blow. i get another chance to make the decision. you can put it in a box or a bag
or put it away somewhere you don't see it. have a look at it in a month's time. have i missed that thing or was it just taking up space in my house that's causing my hassle? >> you have wrote some things that have made krystal and abby happy, but you wrote something that made me a little scared. the accumulation of material objects could lead to anxiety, depression, or people dying before they time. please explain that. >> it is based on some fascinating research conducted by two psychologists at ucla in los angeles. the reason they went looking for that kind of research was they came across -- there are loads, tens of thousands of examples of people, who have gotten rid of their stuff and they are enjoying life more but there's very little scientific proof to
show this. there's this one study that's been conducted that shows for women in particular -- it is strange that it is women only. the psychologists seem to think it is because women have been culturely culturally -- they have this signature pattern of chronic fatigue, post-traumatic stress disorder. the short version of that is too much stuff can lead to an earlier grave and the short-term answer is you should get rid of your stuff. you should forget the idea of finding happiness and status in stuff and find it in experiences instead. >> you realize when you get out of the united states people don't collect as much stuff as we do here in america. >> we're not the only abusers here. james, i'm going home and
destuffing tonight. thank you so much. not needing stuff is good news for blake because he says he can't get anymore stuff anyway. thanks a lot, obama. that's next. it's time for the "your business entrepreneur of the week." the business was doing well until last year when construction made it hard for customers to reach it so the "your business" makeover team came in and helped her get back on her feed. watch it sunday mornsings at 7:30 on msnbc. it's a marvelous thing! oh! haha! so you can replace plane tickets, traveler's cheques, a lost card. really? that worked?
american express' timeless safety and security are now available on apple pay. the next evolution of membership is here. ♪ ah, push it. ♪ ♪ ♪ push it. ♪ ♪ p...push it real good! ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ow! ♪ ♪ oooh baby baby...baby baby. ♪ if you're salt-n-pepa, you tell people to push it. ♪ push it real good. ♪ it's what you do. ♪ ah. push it. ♪ if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance you switch to geico. it's what you do. ♪ ah. push it. ♪ i'm pushing. i'm pushing it real good! alright, so this tylenol arthritis lasts 8 hours, but aleve can last 12 hours... and aleve is proven to work better on pain than tylenol arthritis. so why am i still thinking about this? how are you? aleve, proven better on pain.
well friday is here and there's lots to celebrate this week. the stock market is healthy. job numbers look solid and finally someone was arrested for inappropriate public burping. but while economists and politicians pat themselves on the back over the good economic news, they seem confused as to why millions of americans are not feeling the so-called prosperity. if you want to understand why i and so many others are not popping open the champagne to celebrate the economic recovery here's my story. my wife and i are lucky.
really lucky. we have two kids. by any definition you would like at our situation and call us really fortunate. that far worse is the dream of owning a home is quietly off limits for many in this country. the other challenge is a gigantic plague bankrupting an entire generation but so often overlooked by those in power. my wife has to go through five years of grad school. between loans, the family is in debt $170,000. she got into the mental health field not to get rich but to help people with needs. long story short, the public sector salary she's getting after taxes is almost going exclusively toward her loans and will for many years because as she pays it down little by little interest is still
accruing and the debt continues to hang around. we're effectively relying on one salary. we're lucky each month if we break even which means no saving for a home no saving for retirement, and no splurging on special purchases, even if this week's "playboy" features my favorite celebrity. we're so much more luckier than others. if a lucky idiot who gets to be on tv that's yours truly, is dealing with this problem, how bad is it for the rest of americans in their 20s, 30s, and 40s? there are around 40 million people with student loan debt in this country. the average debt is almost $30,000. our story is not unique. it's a story of america right now and like i said, most have it much worse than we do. it used to be you could declare
bankruptcy on student loans. then that policy changed. think how many lives could be transformed if we could discharge this debt and let families pursue the so-called american dream again. run maybe we can have the fed finance money for the banks. that does it for "the cycle." "now" starts right now. hello, i'm ari melber in for alex wagner. a press conference from the local fbi officials in mississippi. this is expected to start any minute and it is on the investigation into that body of an african-american man that was found hanging in a tree thursday. the fbi and the justice department have been looking into the circumstances of this individual's death.
authorities believe the man is 54-year-old otis byrd but they have not officially confirmed his identity. at this hour law enforcement is saying investigators haven't reached any final conclusions about the hanging, but we do expect to hear more in this press conference of course. joining me now to explain is trumaine lee. what is the latest on this and a little background on the case for those who don't know it? >> the department of justice, the fbi, as well as the u.s. attorney's office in the southern district of mississippi, are trying to figure out if there is anything here to this case whether it is a homicide or suicide. otis byrd went missing two days ago after a visit to a local
IN COLLECTIONSMSNBC West Television Archive The Chin Grimes TV News Archive Television Archive News Search Service
Uploaded by TV Archive on