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i find it very troubling and especially as jennifer points out, we're about to have a very critical election for state supreme court. >> sure. >> and the notion we would alter the voting rules weeks before the election is something that we should all be concerned about. >> all right. great to have both of you with us tonight. i appreciate your time. that's "the ed show." i'm ed schultz. "politicsflags "politicsnation" with reverend al sharpton begins now. >> thanks to you for tuning in. we start with developing news. the fight over president obama's historic health care law. today senator ted cruz launched his 2016 run by launching a new attack on obamacare. >> imagine in 2017 a new president signing legislation repealing every word of obamacare. >> we'll have more on senator cruz's presidential bid coming up. but his announcement today shows
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republicans are still totally in denial about the historic power of the affordable care act. exactly five years ago today, president obama signed the bill into law. >> today, after all the votes have been tallied, health insurance preform becomes law in the united states of america. >> the law's significance was clear from the start. vice president biden summed it up as only he can. >> [ bleep ]. >> five years later, the law is still a big deal. 16.4 million americans have been added to the health care rolls. the uninsured rate has dropped by 35%. and costs are falling. last year health care spending rose at the slowest pace in a
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half a century. it's a mementos shift, giving millions of families a basic security they never had before. and five years later, the gop hasn't repealed it and they have no serious plan to replace it. >> committees are continuing to work on that, and i'm sure we're going to see one soon. >> how soon? >> we'll see one soon. >> will it cover 16 million people? >> mr. speaker, in your comment, you side that -- >> and if you're a republican hoping to run for president, how do you celebrate the five-year anniversary? if you're marco rubio, you write an article on promising to provide an off-ramp from the affordable care act. replacing it with conservative solutions. yeah, well good luck with that one. in the meantime 16 million americans enjoy health care
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coverage that they didn't have before. joining me now is congressman john yarmuth, democrat from kentucky and democratic strategist margie o'mara. thank you both for being here. >> good evening, reverend. >> congressman, the uninsured rate in your state fell by over 10% after the health care law was implemented. what have you heard from voters? >> well actually, al, it's more than that. the uninsured rate actually dropped by 50%. in my district in louisville we actually reduced the uninsured rate by 81%. >> wow. >> we have 520,000 people in the commonwealth of kentucky previously uninsured, who are now insured. >> let me stop you there. 50% statewide and 81% in your district? >> 81% in my district. we had the deloit firm come in,
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the beshear administration, and project what the affordable care act would mean over the next six years. 40,000 new jobs they said. $30 million impact on the economy. and a positive $800 million impact on the state budget. this has actually exceeded what the governor projected when he decided to expand medicaid and form our own exchange, the kenect exchange. it's been an enormous success in kentucky. those who want to repeal obamacare basically are saying they want to add $800 million to the kentucky deficit to take insurance away from 500,000 people in a state of 4.4 million, and you basically forego $30 billion worth of economic impact. >> now, congressman, just so we're clear, and our viewers are clear, you represent louisville.
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the state of mitch mcconnell. the majority leader. >> yes. >> 50% drop in the uninsured. 81% in your district. 40,000 jobs. in mitch mcconnell's state, and he's still fighting and talking about trying to repeal this law. >> it's pretty bizarre. i know. and, you know, unfortunately, i think a lot of this has to be because this is president obama's plan and president obama is particularly unpopular in my state outside of my district. but the reality on the ground again, a half million people who now have insurance who didn't people who are feeling much more secure about their families. even people who had insurance, they now don't face lifetime or annual caps so that a single accident or a serious disease won't bankrupt their families. i mean this is an enormous benefit for the people of the commonwealth of kentucky, and it's crazy that mitch mcconnell was able to get re-elected after wanting to take all these benefits away from our citizens.
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>> margie marco rubio is out today with a, quote, off-ramp from the affordable care act. when will the gop realize they hit a dead end with this stuff? >> well it's hard to see how a lot of candidates are learning the lesson. i mean if you look at ted cruise, for example, he has been out there. he's been one of the most focal opponents of obamacare from the beginning. and probably as a result he's been net unfavorable since he's been in the public eye, essentially, since he's been a national figure he's been net unpopular. in poll after poll. and i'm not sure that really shows that obamacare opposition is a mandate to then run for the presidency. now, in the case of marco rubio, i think he's at least trying to take into account public sentiment. i mean, he does acknowledge, look, we have to accept the reality that if health care changes as a result of king
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versus burwell, we need to provide an option for the people who may lose care and that does reflect public sentiment. we may disagree with the specifics but it reflects public sentiment. the kaiser foundation polling shows even a majority of republicans want to see congress take action if people in states around the country, i think it's about 9 million people lose care even republicans want to see that happen. so i think you'll see more candidates, if they're really taking the temperature properly of the entire electorate are really going to be able to you know, try and think that people want to see care continue not decrease. >> well congressman, despite the fact that you and others have given some concrete examples of the progress and of how this has benefited people let's remember on this anniversary that it has had no shortage of attacks and distortions. let me show you the attacks from the right that has ran together.
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>> this law that is so massive, burdensome, bureaucratic and confusing that it's collapsing under its own weight. >> let's repeal this failure before it literally kills women kills children kills senior citizens. >> making our health care premiums enormously unsustainably more expensive with death panels to boot. >> obamacare is the biggest job killer in this country. >> now, obviously we know it didn't collapse and there aren't any death panels and it's also not a job killer. in fact -- >> definitely not a job killer. >> -- since affordable care act was signed into law, the economy has added over 12 million jobs. has the success of the law drained the power out of these republican attacks, congressman? >> well, a little bit, but unfortunately we still spr so many people out there who, again, associate the affordable care act with an unpopular president in many places and they refuse to look at the facts.
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what's happened in my state, for instance is across the river in indiana, governor mike pence who refused to expand medicaid has citizens who've seen what's going on across the river with their neighbors and friends, and so he's had to basically kind of circumvent the politician and say we want to expand medicaid without saying we're expanding medicaid so he got a waiver from the federal rules so he could accept the money and cover several hundred thousand indiana citizens. so again, when people are aware of what positive benefits there are in areas that have embraced the affordable care act, they're putting pressure on their governors and their legislators to do something about it. in many states unfortunately, like texas and some others that pressure isn't there. >> now, you are, margie the political
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consultant/operatist/strategist here on the open segment. explain to me this. every republican mentioned as a potential 2016 candidate wants to repeal the affordable care act. every one of them. it was a losing strategy for the gop in 2012. how do they feel it's going to be a winning strategy in 2016? >> well it may be a winning strategy in republican primary environments, and i think that's what a lot of candidates are thinking about. once you start moving to -- once you start showing some support for obamacare in any form or even just a less fervent on opposition to obamacare, then you paint yourself as a moderate and in the current client being a moderate in a republican primary is not a path for success. candidates who are seen as being moderate are not doing as well in the republican primary. so i think that's where this is coming from. obviously the president is very unpopular with republican primary voters. that's just the nature of our
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political environment right now. and obviously they're primary voters. so i think it's just a reflection of that. when people are going to start listening -- when people start listening to stories of their voters, of their constituents saying, hey, i need help, that's a different kind of story than a republican primary voter who say, look, i just want someone who's going to rail against the president. i hope that we're going to see some candidates try to have as jeb bush has called it adult conversations about some of these. but even he is also in opposition to obamacare just like the rest of the field. so i think we need to see more republican candidates really taking a cue from where the voters overall are, which is what polls show rather than just what they're hearing at you know, conservative conferences. >> and show concern for the american people. i mean we're talking about over 16 million people and still counting that really need this. but congressman john yarmuth and margie o'mara thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> thank you, rev.
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coming up senator shutdown announces he's running for president. what it means for republicans. and what it means for democrats. also it made national headlines. accusations of gang rape at a uva frat. today the police revealed their findings. plus a new push for elizabeth warren to run for president. and a pitch perfect response from mo'ne davis to a cyber bully on twitter. "conversation nation" is ahead. it's more than a network and the cloud. it's reliable uptime. and multi-layered security. it's how you stay connected to each other and to your customers. with centurylink you get advanced
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oh canada. a tribute to our favorite canadian-born presidential candidate, ted cruz. legal experts say cruz is legible to run as a natural-born citizen, so what will his campaign look like? we are -- well we might see some more dr. seuss. >> do you like green eggs and ham? i do not like them sam, i am. i do not like green eggs and ham. >> and while most politicians go around hugging babies ted cruz scares babies. >> the obama/clinton foreign policy of leading from behind. the whole world's on fire. >> the world's on fire? >> the world is on fire, yes. >> now we're having some fun
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the first candidate to announce a run for president, and wasting no time revealing an agenda aimed at the base. >> i want to ask each of you to imagine, imagine millions of courageous conservatives all across america rising up together to say in unison "we demand our liberty." imagine abolishing the irs. imagine in 2017 a new president signing legislation repealing every word of obamacare. >> but it isn't just what he said. it's where he said it. senator cruz spoke at liberty university, which was founded in 1971 by televangelist jerry
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fallwell. it remains the center of the evangelical political world. and in critical ways, his public actions track with senator cruz's vision. the school's founder was called the leader of america's anti-gay industry. senator cruz said this month while other republicans are backing off the issue, he'll make fighting same-sex marriage a priority. liberty filed a lawsuit against the affordable care act the day it passed five years ago today. senator cruz shut down the government over the law. liberty has a center for creation studies. and senator cruz is one of the gop's leading climate change deniers. but even with that record senator cruz isn't winning over every republican, even at liberty. see the kids in the red shirts? those shirts say "i stand with rand." ted cruz is the first out the
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gate, but he's still got a long way to go to win the base. joining me now is victoria de francesco soto. thanks for being here. >> thank you, reverend. >> victoria you're in texas. what do you make of senator cruz making his announcement to run for president at liberty university in virginia instead of in his home state? >> well, there's a lot of symbolism. the first big symbol reverend, he's reaching out to the youth, to college students. he went to the university. i think here we're seeing him take a page out of president obama's playbook. he knows that young people when they're mobilized, it can be hard to mobilize them, but when they are can really be a force to be reckoned with. second, obviously the evangel evangelical movement. we wants to stake claim to the evangelical movement here in the united states, trying to get huckabee out of the water, santorum and make his space here. he didn't announce in texas, but reverend, there are a ton of
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texans at liberty university so it was almost like he was doing it in texas. he had one foot in texas. but what i think is so interesting is with ted cruz announcing, all of the focus when it comes to texas is going to be on him. rick perry's going to announce pretty soon i would bet, but he is going to be in the shadow of ted cruz because he's really going to embody that texas tea party mentality in the republican party. >> let me go back to something you said about the evangelical vote, because senator cruz made a serious pitch for the evangelical vote. watch this. >> today, roughly half of born-again christians aren't voting. they're staying home. imagine, instead, millions of people of faith all across america coming out to the polls and voting our values. >> now, "bloomberg" reports,
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"the implicit promise to evangelicals was that he'd give them something to vote for. in a way that no gop nominee had since george w. bush and none truly had since ronald reagan." victoria, can ted cruz mobilize evangelical voters? >> i think he has as good a shot as anyone else in his party right now. not necessarily because of the substance of his ideology because both mike huckabee and santorum and rand paul does share some of that ideology. but i say it's more of that bluster, that dynamism. he is super charismatic. love ted cruz or hate him, he is so passionate. if you see him in person he's really capturing the audience's attention. so i think in that regard, we are going to see ted cruz take a stand, but, you know we also know that moderate chamber of commerce republicans are getting frustrated with that tea party movement that took over in 2010.
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we saw in the 2014 midterm election the chamber of commerce republicans during the primaries that said hey, hold on a minute, we are not going to let you steer the ship tea party, we're going to take charge again. so i think that battle between the chamber of commerce republicans and the evangelicals is going to be a hard fought one. >> now, the polls right now show ted cruz way behind other potential candidates. like jeb bush and scott walker. so will his earlier announcement give him a boost in the polls? a boost in fund-raising? and even if he doesn't make it does he end up dragging the party to the far right? >> you know, ref rapidverendreverend i think of ted cruz as a pace car in racing. the pace car that all the other cars follow. so ted cruz has a very slim chance of making it out of the primary, but his role in this is going to be that standard bearer of the right ideological
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platform and going to pull jeb bush, scott walker rand paul and anybody else further and further to the right which ultimately when we get to the general election is going to be very difficult for them to take a winning position. >> all right. victoria de francesco soto thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you, reverend. coming up breaking news. it set off a national uproar. an alleged gang rape at the university of virginia. today, police announce what they found. plus could elizabeth warren be persuaded to run for president? there's a new push. stay with us. ♪ ♪ ♪ first impressions are important. you've got to make every second count. banking designed for the way you live your life.
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police in charlottesville, virginia, say there is no evidence to back up a "rolling stones" story about an alleged gang rape that rocked the university of virginia. in that "rolling stone" article a freshman student called jackie claims she was brutally raped at a frat house. the story made national headlines and put a new focus on sexual assault on campus. but almost immediately, questions were raised about the accuracy of the article, and late today, the police chief went through jackie's claims one by one. >> it was during the course of another meeting that she discloses the phi kappa psi house as location of the september 28th, 2012, sexual assault. we were unable to find any basis of fact to conclude that there was even an event on september the 28th 2012 at that particular fraternity house. she said that when she went home that night, her roommate who was
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a nursing student actually had to help pick the glass particles from her face. i will tell you that that roommate was subsequently interviewed and she denies doing that. they were aware that jackie was to be going on a date that particular night with a person identified as haven monaghan. they had never met haven monaghan. we made numerous attempts to identify who haven monaghan is to the extent that haven monaghan even exists. >> today's report came after a five-month investigation by police, but the student from the story, jackie told the "washington post" that she stands by the account that she gave "rolling stone." joining me now are legal analysts, ariba martin and lawrence ross author of "the divine nine: a history of african-american fraternities." thank you, both for being here. >> thank you rev. >> thank you, reverend.
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>> what's your take on the police investigation? >> well, i think we have to accept the investigation. one of the promising things about it was, though the police said they were not closing their investigation. they're just suspending it for now. obviously if this young woman has not come forth and told the truth about this this is a bad day for all rape victims because that means it will be harder for those victims to be believed when they actually are raped. but i think the importance of this story is it's raised and continues to raise the issue of sexual assaults on campus and causes us to have those much-needed discussions about how men and women need to protect themselves. >> i want to get to that because there's a bigger issue regardless of what the final outcome of this case is. but as you said the police chief made sure to say the work on this case is not done yet. listen to the chief as he said this. >> this case is not closed. it's not closed by any stretch of the imagination. it's suspended until such time
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as we are able to gather more information or such time until someone comes forward and provides us with more information. i'm not in a position where i can say based on all the evidence we've developed that something terrible didn't happen to that young lady that night. all i can tell you is there is no substantive basis to conclude what is described in that article happened that night. >> now, what would need to happen, areva, for the police to pursue this case again? >> i think they need to have more witnesses come forward, rev. i think what the police are telling us is they haven't been able to identify some of the actual people that were identified by jackie in the article. and they need to be able to interview those witnesses to judge their credibility and to be able to substantiate her story. we heard that the roommate has denied picking glass out of her face. we also know that the fraternity apparently did not have a party on the night that she alleges that the rape occurred.
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again, the police chief was there are clear in saying he cannot conclude that something really bad did not happen to her on that evening. >> lawrence the fraternity in question just put out a statement saying "these false accusations have been extremely damaging to our entire organization but we can only begin to imagine the setback this must have dealt to survivors of sexual assault. we hope that "rolling stone's" actions do not discourage any survivors from coming forward to seek the justice they deserve." what do you think of their response, lawrence? >> i think the response is pretty much on par. i mean this is a complicated issue because we have two different things. one, we have the macroissue of talking about sexual assault within the fraternal system fraternity system in particular. we do as fraternity members do know that we actually do have a problem. i mean the facts are quantifiable in terms of the number of sexual assaults that actually occur within the
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fraternities. however, on a micro level, we don't want to have a situation to where sexual assault victims don't come forward because they actually have had a bad experience. >> right. >> but we're also mixing it up into the, other large areas that we don't want to condemn every fraternity member. and so this is a terrible mix of we don't know because the police continue to say that they're still keeping it open so we don't have all the information, but at the same time for those fraternity members on this particular campus for these particular men, they've been slurred and we don't know whether or not the slur has been true or whether or not it's been false. but, again -- >> there's a serious problem here. one in five women experience rape during college according to the national institute of justice. one in five. not necessarily at frat houses i might say, but one in five.
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this is a serious problem. are fraternities and colleges in general doing enough to address this issue, lawrence? >> not at all. not at all. i think every one of the entities are dropping the ball. universities don't want to look at the fraternities or handle the fraternities in such a way that actually allows them to be liable. title 9 is actually bringing them closer to having responsibility for things like this. those of us in fraternities and in the fraternal system have to do a better job of teaching about sexual assault. for example, at san diego state, they have a program called frat manners, fraternity men against negative environments and rape situations. we have to get away from fraternity members, away from the old-fashioned chivalrous notion of just protection of womanhood and the like and start teaching our men who come on campus with the ideas of women,
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ideas of sexual assault that may not actually be well informed and start training them directly about what sexual assault is what are the conditions that come from sexual assault, and then being brave enough to actually speak about it when it's one of the fraternity members who are actually perpetuateing such an assault. >> areva, let me ask you this quickly. the fraternities also said -- this is a quote, "phi kappa psi is now exploring its legal options to address the extensive damage caused by "rolling stone." what are the legal options they're talking about? >> well, they're talking about defamation. we've heard "rolling stone" actually admit that they did not try to contact the alleged perpetrator when they wrote the story because jackie asked them not to. so i'm not surprised to hear that the fraternity is actually looking at some kind of legal action. i also just want to say, rev, states like california have gone further and instead of relying on no means no there's a law now that says yes means yes which means you have to have
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affirmative consent. i think that's an important big step for college students to start looking at because so many of them seem confused about what it means when a woman says no to any kind of sexual encounter. so i think this case again, has such big implications. >> well, we'll see where it goes. it has huge implication for a lot of different factions that are connected and brought into this as both of you have said. areva martin and lawrence ross thank you both for your time tonight. >> thank you very much rev. >> thanks rev. still ahead, "conversation nation." new calls for elizabeth warren to run for president. rush limbaugh gets some folks hopping mad with his new comments about president obama. and pitching superstar mo'ne davis throws a curve ball with her response to a cyber bully. stay with us. need to look for a used car. but i just keep putting it off. it's daunting. what if i make the wrong choice? it's like, if i buy
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time for "conversation nation." joining me tonight, msnbc's krystal ball. sirius xm radio host john fugelsane. and zerlena maxwell from "essence." thank you for being here this evening. >> thanks, rev. >> thanks rev. >> first up should elizabeth warren run for the presidency in 2016? she's repeatedly said she's not. but now the editorial board of her hometown paper "the boston
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globe" is calling on her to get into the race. they write, "she should not shrink from the chance to set the course for the democratic party or cede that task to hillary clinton without a fight. warren could enrich the political process for years to come." just a few weeks ago i asked warren if she thought hillary clinton could fight for progressive causes the way she has. a lot of progressives have questions about whether she'll be a progressive warrior. what would you say to them? >> you know, i think that's what we got to see. i want to hear what she wants to run on and what she says she wants to do. that's what campaigns are supposed to be about. >> krystal, why is there still all this 2016 buzz about elizabeth warren? >> i think it's because she is the rarest of rare political talents who actually passionately believes in what
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she is doing and is coming with the courage of her convictions. and you know when she wakes up in the morning and when she goes to bed at night, she is thinking about how we can help restore the middle class in this country, and that's the central issue for 2016. there is this desire even as we see the economy doing better on many metrics, people are still not feeling like the american dream is where it should be and that our middle class is thriving in the way that it should be. so they look at elizabeth warren and see someone who has something to say on the issue. even if they may not end up wanting her to be president, they want to hear what she can contribute to that debate. >> john? >> i agree with krystal. i think elizabeth -- in a culture where the media goes by personalities instead of issues she's -- >> you don't consider hillary a rock star? >> no, i don't. i think the election is hillary's to blow and that could easily happen. i think mrs. warren is the one person of stature who stood up
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and said the game is rigged. she's not selling the american dream, not selling opportunities. she's stating the facts and someone has to get to work on it. i do think that her worst-case scenario rev, would be she loses, she gives a great convention speech for hillary, still a rock star in the senate and maybe doesn't get invited to the clinton mafia barbecues in chappaqua. worst case. >> i agree with him in terms of the personality. actually on the issues i would say hillary clinton actually does have strong positions in terms of economic justice that she doesn't necessarily get the same amount of credit for. and so in terms of sort of the head-to-head matchup, i don't know that there's a huge net gain to include elizabeth warren in the debates unless it's simply to push hillyary to the left. >> i'm not saying i don't think she should run, i don't know that there's a huge upswing. >> i think the unknown -- i'm going by when i ran in'04. the unknown is on other issues where people stand because i'm not too sure that i agree with
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john that on many issues mrs. clinton is centrist some she's more progressive, some she's more right. there are a lot of issues i don't know where elizabeth warren is. >> well, there's a lot of question marks still for hillary clinton as well. where will she stand on trade? will she follow in her husband's foot footsteps with nafta? >> will she at least acknowledge nafta didn't work? >> exactly. who is she going to appoint? >> where is elizabeth warren on police reform on ferguson? there are a lot of issues here which we don't know. >> which is why it's great to have a primary debate and find out where the candidates stand on the issue and have the opportunity to push and pressure people to be -- >> they call it primary. >> that's why we have them. next cyber bullying. 13-year-old baseball star mo'ne davis, is the latest victim of an online attack. on friday a college baseball player tweeted a sexual slur
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about mo'ne writing "disney is making a movie about mo'ne davis. what a joke. that blank got rocked by nevada." the public outrage over the tweet was overwhelming and even though the player apologized, he was still kicked off his college team. but today, mo'ne asked his school to put him back on the team. >> everyone makes mistakes and everyone deserves a second chance, and, i mean it's not -- i mean i know he didn't mean it in that type of way, and i know a lot of people get tired of me like seeing me on tv. i know right now he's really hurt and i know how hard he worked just to get to where he is right now. and so i mean it's -- i mean it's really hurt on my part but i know he's hurt even more. >> zerilanna, what's your reaction? >> i don't think he's hurt more. i don't think he should be
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reinstated. there have to be consequences for sexualizing someone this young. women, and women of color in particular are forced to be the bigger person and push theturn the other cheek as we were talking about earlier when they're sexualized in this way. her talent is undeniable and should not be objectified and sexualized in this manner. it's completely inappropriate. >> john, i think at one level, you know and i've seen situations where you take a bigger step because of you. i mean i've done things because i wanted to test myself could i be big? but at another level, you also know it's not going to matter to your critics, and mo'ne is doing what i think is honorable. whether it means anything or not. i hope it does. >> it does. she's turning the other cheek. we do have free speech. for grown-ups free speech comes with consequences. they may not be able to reinstate him. if you're in college, it depends donor funds to help your college. having this guy on your team isn't going to help. it's a business. i'm more concerned about the non
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celebrity girls harassed on social media every day and don't have a media forum to talk about it. >> and don't have anyone to salute -- >> she's a celebrity. first time. >> she set the example of how people should treat one another with forgiveness. i don't think he should be reinstated but this is the model for how we do treat one another, how we should be treating one another. online, it is vicious for girls like mo'ne women like ashley judd. >> we should give her lot of credit for setting that standard. everybody, stay with me. we'll be right back with the right's new dog whistle attacks on the president. ♪ ♪ ♪ (under loud music) this is the place. ♪ ♪ ♪ their beard salve is made from ♪ ♪ ♪ sustainable tea tree oil and kale... you, my friend, recognize when a trend has reached critical mass. yes, when others focus on one thing you see what's coming next. you see opportunity. that's what a type e does.
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we're back with our panel, krystal, john, and zerlina. our final story tonight, obama derangement gone wild. with the iran nuclear negotiations still under way, the far right is trotting out some old ugly attacks against president obama. >> obama is getting close to issuing his own fatwahs such as executive amnesty. >> we are aligning ourselves more with the iranians than with the israelis in the middle east. >> he has such an extraordinary sense of identity with sympathy for, many of the other middle eastern nations. >> john is this more of the same dog whistle politics we've been hearing for six years? >> reverend al, how many muslims
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does a brother have to drone kill before these guys let up on the muslim talk? of course it's all code language, it's all to assign him the other status. it's pretty disgusting. in the case of mike huckabee whose philosophy seems to be forgive us our trespasses as we preemptively invade those who trespass against us. one, yes -- >> you referred -- >> obama is a muslim we have to get that across though he doesn't pray to mecca, supports gay marriage. secondly, war with iran is about to become a campaign theme for these guys emboldened by met yaw netanyahu did. >> it's easier to criticize than come up with a plan of your own. that's been the strategy from day one. i don't know how they're going to make the transition now that he's in the latter years of his presidency. they'll have to figure out new lines of attack and come up with plans of their own. >> zerlina? >> i'm sick of calling it dog whistles. call it people whistles.
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people can hear them. when they talk about how obama identifies with middle eastern countries, i think that that is a -- >> goes beyond the dog whistle. >> this is mike huckabee who said he was anti-colonial. it's like so were the founding fathers, dude. >> i think that we had a revolution about that. krystal, john, zerlina, thanks for your time. watch krystal on "the cycle" weekdays at 3:00 p.m. right here on msnbc. we'll be right back with an apology three decades in the making. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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rhetoric. these comments do not represent the belief of my heart or the content of my preaching. i apologize." jones says he's changed. millions of other americans have changed, too. right now, same-sex marriage is legal in 37 states and support for gay rights is higher than ever. more and more people realize you can't support equal rights for some but not for others. actress kerry washington talked about that at this weekend's g.l.a.d. awards. >> we can't say that we believe in each other's fundamental humanity and then turn a blind eye to the reality of each other's existence. and the truth of each other's hearts. we must be allies and as long as anyone, anywhere is being made to feel less human, our very definition of humanity is at stake and we are all vulnerable. >> i'm glad to hear bob jones' apology. i remember years ago when i came out in support of gay rights.
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i got a lot of flak from other members of the clergy. i told them no one is asking you to change your belief you just don't have the right to rob others of theirs. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. cruising for a bruising. let's play "hardball." i believe in you. i believe in the power of millions of courageous conservatives rising up to reignite the promise of america. and that is why, today, i am announcing that i'm running for president of the united states.