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due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. ♪ give me the respect and courtesy of a human being and not an animal and you will receive the same. >> the killer of a corrections officer fights to be freed from 16 years of solitary confinement. >> robbie! >> boyhood friends struggle to father their kids from behind prison walls. but one, cut off from visits with his son, is on a razor's edge. >> i've been hurt a lot, and i
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mean, i seek revenge for that. >> hail all yee, holy god. greater than the sons -- >> a convicted murderer, seeks legitimacy for a religion that prison officials suspect is a front for white supremacist gangs. and we turned our cameras over to the inmates to share personal thoughts in the privacy of their cells. >> wabash, locked up - extended stay. welcome to the belly of the beast. i hate wabash. you know what i mean? they make sure you know you're in prison everyday. >> who wants to be locked in a room with another man for 19 hours a day? then three of the half hours that we come out is to go get
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the worst food you've ever ate in your life. i don't even know how they call it food. >> everyday, seeing people take for granted, we cherish right now. >> wabash valley correctional facility -- a maximum security prison on the western edge of indiana. the center piece of the rural town of carlisle. the inmate population of nearly 2,200 out numbers local residents 4-1. many of indiana's most violent offenders are sent here. >> the approximate breakdown for offenders that have committed serious offenses against a person -- which may be murder, voluntary manslaughter, battery, assault -- is approximately 35% to 40% of our offender population. >> the most violent of these offenders are housed in single person cells, 23 hours a day in the secured confinement unit. >> 1205. >> few however are more
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notorious than lenard mcquay who has spent 16 years here. >> he still is escorted anywhere he goes by staff. a two-man escort. he'll be cuffed behind the back. his recreation is in solitary, by himself. he doesn't get rec with the other people. his activities are kind of limited. it's all by himself. that unit is designed for people like mcquay. everyone knows his history. >> the most infamous occurred when he was serving his time at indiana state prison seven years earlier, that's when he stabbed a corrections officer to death. >> we approached him from the front according to reports, stabbed him one time in the front chest area, which actually broke a rib. he stabbed him with such force, the sound of it targeted another staff member that was one range over to respond. when he responded he observed the second stab to the back, according to the reports, before the officer actually died, they said he told them he didn't know if he was going to make it or not.
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and mcquay was the one who stabbed him. >> at the time he was serving 20 years for sexual battery, he was sentenced to an additional 60 years after being found guilty of murdering the officer. despite the eyewitness accounts, mcquay still proclaims his innocence. >> it's been a long road. i need to maintain my balance and my mental health. >> mcquay will soon reach a milestone. his time in confinement is about to surpass the time he spent free in the outside world. >> sometimes you can be in an environment like this, and a person begins to see you as a mad dog, like every chance you get, you're going to lose control or you're going to snap on somebody.
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and that's not me. >> periodically, mcquay files requests to be moved back to general population, where he would have considerably more privileges. >> i still believe that leonard mcquay has an ulterior motive. >> the first person he needs to win over is the administrative segregation case manager. >> we all get along with leonard, he is very, very likeable. very caring, so friendly, but he's so overly friendly. it's so vague. it's not for real. >> since coming to wabash, mcquay has been involved in several incidents that have enforced his violent reputation. >> a few years ago, mcquay was in the rec pad, he asked for a basketball. when they handed him a basketball, he came through the door and pushed his way through, and began assaulting a couple staff members.
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several staff repsonded, including myself, about six of us responded to restrain him and get him on the ground and get him in cuffs. >> sometime emotions can push you over the edge. sometimes you can regret after becoming so emotional the things that you do. especially when you know that one action can result in a lifetime of misery. >> but mcquay says he's had a spiritual awakening since converting to islam. >> it's the reflection of a new person, a new man, a changed man. >> mcquay is not the only inmate at wabash valley who says he's gone through a spiritual transformation since coming to prison. [ speaking foreign language ] >> marcus murray is a self-proclaimed priest of a
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pagan religion. >> asatru is the pre-christian religion of northern europeans. >> here me now your son -- >> it's popular among predominantly white inmates in prisons nationwise. he discovered it shortly after coming to wabash 11 years earlier. he's serving a sentence for beating another man to death. his thor's hammer pendant and many prison tattoos are symbols of his faith. they are norse oriented.
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they're viking age is a large portion of asatru. >> the prison officials have begun to see asatru as something else, a front for white supremacist gangs. members have been allowed to hold services at some prisons. wabash has banned such gatherings. >> the gang members are using their meetings to have their gang meetings within the service itself. it's been quite disruptive at these other facilities. >> murray has decided to file a grievance to appeal the ban. >> it is not a gang, it does not promote gang mentality or any criminal elements at all. it's a religion based on the virtue and knowledge. >> the ban hasn't stopped murray from recruiting other members. >> marcus has been teaching us about what the hammer means, what the different gods and goddesses are.
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>> jones who also denies being a white supremacist came to wabash three years ago at the age of 18. he was sentenced to six years for burglary. >> i was strung out on drugs and broke into a house, and took the tv and a bunch of other little items like a tattoo gun and took them and sold them for drugs. >> the house he robbed was his fathers. >> my dad called the police, he said, i strongly believe it was my son junior. it killed him to do it. >> jones says he would like to rebuild a relationship with his father, and will soon have a chance. he leaves prison on parole in one week. >> you're not enjoying the weather, are you? >> why would you enjoy the weather, man? you get to enjoy all that when you go home next week. next thursday.
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>> he wants to be influenced, because he's still being molded as a man. he's still a kid, and he's turning into somebody. >> delivering papers, no, that's just temporary. long enough for me to find a real job. >> i'm glad you have aspirations. >> what does that mean? coming up. >> i have a $100 bill tattooed on my penis. two boyhood friends now cell mates find themselves at a crossroads. and later -- >> i'm asking you to open your heart. >> leonard mcquay tries to rehab his image. >> i treat him with respect but i do not trust him. ♪ and i'll never desert you ♪ ♪ i'll stand by you yeaaaah! yeah. so that's our loyalty program. you're automatically enrolled, and the longer you stay, the more rewards you get. great! oh!
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i recognize i got a family out there that really needs me. and spent a lot of time away
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from me. can't say i've always been the best for them. as a matter of fact, their lives probably would have been a lot better without me in it. >> the wabash valley correctional facility is isolated among miles of corn and soybean fields in southwestern indiana. >> come on. >> some of the states most violent inmates are housed here and they've been known to hurt each other. james stone has been in prison for the past 25 years for attempted murder. he's had more than a few scrapes in that time. some inmates have been known to create knives out of toothbrushes or anything else. several years ago, when stone was at another prison, he devised a more unique weapon. >> cheese graters, i had leather work gloves.
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i took the pads off the inside of welding gloves. dipped them in varnish, put the pads on top of the varnish, until it got good and tacky. dripped back down in the varnish, went over to a drill press where the curly cues are, i dipped down in a bunch of them, so it looked like a metal bush on top of the gloves. then let them dry for a minute. then i ran through the top layer of the varnish in the can to keep them from breaking off. and let them dry on your hands while your hands stay balled up. once they dried, they last forever. every time you hit someone, it's like taking cheese through a cheese greater, it's not pretty. it's like making slaw. >> among this population of seasoned inmates, like stone, are two young cellies.
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once boyhood friends on the outside, they now rely on each other for survival on the inside. >> we met at different places we hung out when we were what? >> 13, 14. maybe even 12. >> robbie is serving six years for armed robbery. and is no stranger to prison. >> i'll be 23 in a couple days, and with parole violations all together, i came to prison five times, and the none of them been for a long time, but if i keep coming, eventually it's going to be, and i don't want that. i really don't have nobody out there, i wish i had some place to go. i wish i could get on my feet, get a job, and live life productively. i don't want to keep coming here, this ain't for me. >> you hear me? >> unlike his boyhood friend who's been in and out of prison five times, this is bradley's first time behind the walls. but as a juvenile, he was twice
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placed on house arrest. now he's serving 16 years for burglary and criminal gang activity. >> i heard my sentence, i was crying. >> at 18 getting 16 years it seemed like forever. it was like, oh, man, i ain't never getting out. we have a good relationship, talk to each other like crazy. smack each other around when nobody's looking. >> it doesn't matter. it is always all good afterwards. >> yeah. >> even though they're from the same hometown, their lives in prison would make it seem like they're from different sides of the tracks. >> his tv is just a little older model and my tv is one of the flat screens they just started selling, it's expensive, but it's just a bigger picture. everything in here is ours, you
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know what i mean? it's not -- whatever's mine is his, whatever's his is mine, that's the way we live. >> thanks to support from his family, napier has money to spend in the commissary. once a week, he loads up on snacks for him and his cell mate. >> he eats half of everything. he needs to carry half of everything. >> robbie. >> all the commissary goes in one box. we both eat out of it. he doesn't have a lot of the things going for him that i have. it's hard for him to stay on the right path. >> one thing mcanally does have is an abundance of tattoos. >> i got these praying hands for
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my dad, my mom in the heart. honor thy mother. honor thy father. over here is money bags, naked girls, everyone likes naked girls -- everybody likes naked girl and money. those are clowns up there, there isn't too much meaning behind those. >> don't you have a $100 bill? >> i do. >> where is that at? >> it's crazy, bro. [ laughter ] i got a $100 bill tattooed on my penis. >> what do you tell the girls about that? >> it's money to blow. [ laughter ] >> the imagery on his body tells part of the story. it's the pictures tucked away in a photo album that tell the rest. >> how often do you look at that? >> every night. >> he hasn't seen his son, 3-year-old robbie iii in more than two years, he's had a contentious relationship with
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his son's mother. >> since i came back to prison, me and her got into it, i haven't seen him at all. it's been 26 months ago. >> napier is the father of a young boy, 2-year-old bradley jr. >> this is what he sent me for my birthday. this is another thing he colored for me, and put stickers on. it's my world, my life. >> like other aspects of their friendship, their relationships to their sons are also marked by a have and have not quality. unlike mcanally, napier enjoys regular visits with his children. >> i wouldn't be able to go through what he's going through, not seeing my son. >> there ain't no reason behind 26 months. >> that's how it is, we're in two different places. >> mcanally longs for a visit with his son. marcus murray has been teaching
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his religious beliefs to jones. he hopes asatru will help keep him from returning to prison. >> when you are hanging out at the house and you realize you have bills to pay or something like that and somebody comes over and they offer you the opportunity for you to make a little bit of easy cash, go rob something, things go bad. things break bad. people get involved. people that weren't supposed to be there come out with shotguns and you get killed. you end up being another justin. another heart break i have to deal. >> not going to die. >> i have been through this before. i have had friends of mine that i have taken under my wing, youngsters that get out before i do any way and they get out there and they mess up. in fact, i lost a friend about six years ago, justin. he got shot by a police officer in indianapolis. so i feel like i failed him.
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>> i promise you, i will send you a card for every month you are out. there but if you come back, i will send a blanket party your way. >> i'm not coming back. >> all right. thank you. >> coming up, len yard mcquaid gets a job and a chance to prove himself. >> that was to the dislike of some of my supervisors. they thought i had lost my mind. >> reporter: later, marcus murray lashes out when an asatru member said the wrong thing. >> you made us look like a bunch of [ bleep ].
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>> five times a day. it's mandatory for muslims all over the world, five times a day. >> he's been in administrative segregation at wabash's secured confinement unit. >> hold the koran up, read this every day. mcquay says his koran has helped him grow spiritually, the other books in his cell have helped him grow physically. >> every day i do me some curls. i do these. i do shrugs. what they call slug shrugs. back arms like this. like this. probably about 55 or 60 pounds. >> mcquay has spent years trying to earn his way back into general population. but his history as a violent offender continues to haunt him.
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>> i engaged in an emotional response to be an offense. >> i was warned when i came into this job about leonard mcquay. he is very smart, very very clever. he can talk a great talk. >> caseworker beverly gilmore has serious questions about mcquay's trustworthiness. her goal is to give inmates an opportunity to prove themselves she made a controversial decision. after mcquay completely a successful life stills program, she gave him a job in the housing unit. >> i did make him a sanitation worker. that was to the dislike of some of my supervisors. they thought i had lost my mind i would never let him get out of his cell. i said, let's give him a chance. i talked to leonard.
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i said, one time, buddy and you pass a scrap of paper to another offender you will be without your job. and we are watching him probably more closely than we are any -- at least this where he is because i have something to prove. because i think he can do it. >> change is gauged by behavior. if you are actually changing, your behavior must change. i believe my behavior has changed. >> mcquay hopes a positive job performance will help him to win his transfer and his fate will be determined at his next review, which is less than a week away. >> the bottom line is, i'm still somebody who deserves respect, to be treated like a human being and if it is given to me, i'll give it. treat me like a human being. give me the respect and courtesy of human being and not an animal and you will receive the same. >> coming up, a follower speaks
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hello, everybody. the hour's top stories. the nsa is pulling the plug on some intelligence gathering since the senate missed a midnight deadline to extend key provisions of the patriot act. it maybe tuesday before senators reach a deal and the nsa has permission to continue some intelligence gathering. texas finally drying out clear weather in the forecast for the week and that help to find ten people who went missing during those floods. now it is back to "lock up." due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. ♪ >> isolated in rural southwestern indiana, the wa
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bash valley correctional facility is more than 100 miles from a major urban correctional center but has plenty of reminders of urban problems behind its walls. >> wabash valley has 43 different gangs, approximately 400 different gang members. that doesn't reflect all of our suspected members. those are all confirmed members, and we have approximately somewhere between 200 to 300 suspected gang members at this facility. >> reporter: most of the gangs are divided among racial lines but the majority of gang members here belong to white supremacist gangs like the aryan brotherhood and the saxton knights. prison officials suspect a growing religious group might be a front for white supremacist gangs. marcus murray, one of the leaders at wabash denieses that. >> there's never been anything in my studies that says one race
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is more dominant over another, one culture more than another nor one religious dominant over another. asatru believe that our religion is fine. your religion is fine. >> reporter: guy radcliffe, who's been practicing asatru for several years here says there is one group who's not welcome. >> if we find out that someone in the community was a child molester he would be banned from the community. he cannot participate. it's a bylaw. you cannot be a sex offender. >> reporter: radcliffe, who uses another accepted pronunciation of the group's name defended the fact that some members have swastikas tattooed on their bodies. >> the swastika was around long before adolf hitler come along. okay? i don't have nothing against uncle adolf but he took something from my religion which
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was a sun wheel. and made it part of his party. it goes back to ancient civilizations. they had a swastika in perz ya, way before national socialism came along. >> reporter: while radcliffe defended asatru, his comments disturbed murray who let him know how much when he returned to his cell in you made us look like a bunch of [ bleep ], [ bleep ]. >> i tried to talk about this with you. i swear i did. sorry, marcus. i [ bleep ] up, bud. i'm sorry. i apologize. try not to get mad at me, man. >> hard not to, man. you just sank my boat. >> later we told murray we recorded his exchange with radcliffe and asked him to explain it. >> i was a little mad at him. i mean he didn't mean any harm. he just -- you know, ignorant of
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the conduction of leadership roles and i think now that he has seen, you know, that it upset me and knows it's not really how we do business, i think he's changed his point of view. >> reporter: he hopes to change the point of view of prison officials also. he will soon have a hearing with administrators to appeal their ban on group worship services from asatru members and have it removed from a list of security threat groups. robbie mcanally -- >> my celly is a great dude. i have known him for years. even before we came to prison. i mean i got my problems that i haven't seen my son in two years
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and, [ bleep ] and he gets to act like i know how i feel or not. he ain't seen his son for a week. he gets visits every week. everything to get in here he's got it and i'm in here [ bleep ] up. >> reporter: mcanally serving six years for armed robbery wears his frustration in prison ink. >> that says vengeance. because i'm -- i have had a lot of wrong done to me. i have been hurt a lot. i seek revenge for that. i have a lot of animosity build up when i got it. i'm hoping i can let things go for my an my son's sake. ain't worth it to come back to prison over. he points to another tattoo at the source for his frustration. >> the mother of my child. kind of mad she is holding my son from me. >> reporter: but that could be changesing. a recent letter and her submission of a visitation request are indications she is
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planning to bring his son to see him. >> this isn't the first time she said she will come visit and let me be in his life and all of a sudden shen falls off again. i'm not going to get my hopes up. last time i saw him he couldn't walk or talk. nothing. i can't wait to see him. >> reporter: while he clings to the hope that the visit will take place, his cell mate, napier, is enjoying one of his regular visits with his 2-year-old son and his son's mother jessica. >> touchdown. >> say touchdown. >> bradley talks about his dad all the time. when we pull up and he sees that guard tower. that's daddy's house. inside you are like great, he sees guard tower and razor wire and thinks of his dad. but in another sense that is his dad's house and he's excited to see him. >> reporter: this type of one on one between an inmate and child is rare in maximum security
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prisons where visits typically take place in a large common area choked with noise and distractions. but napier's session is in a private play room. it is part of the prison's fatherhood program. >> the fatherhood program is great because i can spend more time with my son. i come to this visiting room and in this room everything is great. it's one on one. me and him running around playing ball. >> reporter: the monthly visits are carefully monitored by the program's coordinator, joshua collins. they have a responsibility. even though they are in prison it doesn't give them a cop out not to be a dad. >> you are okay. get up. >> come on. be a man. let me kiss it. let's let daddy kiss it. >> no. >> you will be all right, boy. >> beast mode. say i'm beast mode.
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>> mr. napier, go ahead and have a seat. >> reporter: following each visit, napier undergoes a review. >> let's talk about bradley. >> i think when he starts crying i tell him get up, you are fine. because he's raised by a bunch of women. you know, little boys raised bay bunch of women get babied and i don't want my son to grow up getting babied all the time temperature i want him to have a little toughness about him because the world's tough. get up. you have to go on any way. >> i understand where you are coming from. i want to give you a suggestion. it's okay for him to cry. it's okay for you to say that he's okay. and then address the situation and move on. it kind of seems that some of your patterns came from just, okay, quick fix, get him on to something else so he stops what he is doing. it is okay to acknowledge why he is crying and move on from that. understand what i am saying.
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appreciate you coming in. >> thank you. >> i like to hear insight on what people think of how i am as a father. i'm going to give it some thought. but i know how to be a father. i have done good wit, you know? coming up -- william jones says good-bye to his mentor and hello to life on the outside. >> don't come back. >> and leonard mcquay argues for a transfer out of confinement. >> a chair is all they need. house! car! oh, raise the roof! no one? remember when we used to raise the roof, diane? oh, quiet, richard, i'm trying to make sense of flo's terrible drawing. i'll draw the pants off that thing. oh, oh, hats on hamburgers! dancing! drive-in movie theater! home and auto. lamp! squares. stupid, dumb. lines. [ alarm rings ] no! home and auto bundle from progressive. saves you money. yay, game night, so much fun.
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you know. >> as the pre-dawn darkness hangs over indiana's wabash correctional facility, most of the 2200 convicted felons housed here were treated as one more routine day of incarceration. but not william jones jr. today, after three years, he's going home. >> how are you feeling today? >> nervous. i'm happy to leave but it sucks to have to leave people in here. >> reporter: the one inmate he most hates to leave behind is his close friend and spiritual mentor marcus murray who's serving 60 years for murder. >> man. >> yep. >> going to be hard, dude. gonna miss me. you know it. i'm going to miss you. >> oh, man. >> be cool, man. >> all right. >> while jones spends his final
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moments in prison, just outside of the walls his older brother casey and casey's family arrive to pick him up. >> me and my brother are pretty close. i'm just glad i get to pick him up and not have to leave him in here. i have been up here eight different times and had to leave him here. that was hard. >> have a good one. >> appreciate it. good luck and stay out of here. >> good luck, man. ♪ >> feels different. i guess there's nothing like walking out of prison i guess. >> all right. >> being in jail is not real cool. i don't like it >> what's your maname? >> jones. >> get your property and let's walk you out of here.
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>> let's go. >> be right with you, ma'am. >> don't come back. i don't want to see you anymore. >> i ain't coming back. >> one step at a time. ♪ little bit normal. glad you are home. >> do the honors. >> cigarettes in the car. >> can't have it right now. >> take a picture. >> oh, man. finally. all right. >> all right, everybody in.
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>> while jones savors his first moments of freedom, back inside of wabash, convicted murderer leonard mcquay fights for a different kind of freedom. he has a review hearing with his case manager to determine if he's ready to be released back in to general population from administrative segregation. the only world he's known for the past 16 years. >> you are going all the way out with it, aren't you? dog leash and all. >> the prospect of mcquay, the killer of a corrections officer being released in to general population naturally has some staff on edge. >> offender mcquay, he comes off as a well-spoken, polite individual. that being said, he does have a conduct history with the murder charge of a staff member from a previous facility. so even though he comes across as a polite individual, you have to keep that in mind when you
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are dealing with him. >> they are so evil. they are so barbaric. putting all the chains on a guy like that. >> i do not trust him. i treat him with respect, but i do not trust him. >> reporter: the last time mcquay had a review with his case manager, she approved his request for a job and she hopes to persuade her he is ready for general population. >> how are you? >> i'm all right, miss g. how are you? >> i got my presentation for my review. >> mr. mcquay, what makes you a good candidate for release from administrative segregation in to the offender general population? >> i've engaged in rehabilitation that has allowed me to take a retrospective look, not only at my past, violent
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behavior, and my new more humbled progressive behavior. i believe i've made significant strides in my social relationship with staff. >> all right. leonard, you talk a mighty fine talk. however, how are we to be assured that you actually have soaked this in and believe it done in to the bone marrow? >> i'm asking you, you miss gilmore and the administration here to open your hearts and look at me as a human being who's made some terrible mistakes. who has come back from the grave. i'm a new man. a enthe only way that this new man can shine is that you give me the opportunity. please, give mae chance. that's all i need. i won't let them down, miss gilmore. >> i will summarize that in a statement. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> all right.
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>> they got reason to be concerned because of, you know, prior incidents, associated with me. the only way they can see that i'm not only a changed man but i'm ready to do something different with my life is to let me have an opportunity. i haven't had a chance and that's what i'm hoping for. >> coming up, marcus murray defends asatru. sgluf a salute. like a lot of white supremacists do. >> no, sir. >> and a decision is handed down on leonard mcquay. first the cookie at check-in
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i don't know. [ bleep ]. >> robbie mcanally has been in prison a little more than two years. in all that time, he hasn't had a single visit with his 3-year-old son. recent contact with the child's mother had given him hope that a visit might be imminent but now the child's mother represented in a tattoo on his arm has changed her plans. >> she's been talking about for the past two and a half months now, i'm going to bring trey down there. i'm going to bring trey down here. and now all of a sudden you are too busy. i think i'm going to turn her in to a clown. >> don't do that. >> i will turn her in to a clown. >> he just talks. he loves that girl with everything. >> she ain't worth it. >> she ain't worth a -- [ bleep ]. >> later, mcanally revealed one possible reason why the mother of his child has not followed through on visits. he said it was an incident that
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happened before he returned to prison. something he rarely talks about. >> it was a domestic matter. and i havent seen him since then which was, yeah, that's the last time that i seen him was the night that happened. >> reporter: mcanally can only accept the consequences of his actions and do little to control developments with those he has left behind on the outside, but today marcus murray is hoping to make a big change on the inside. >> how are you doing? >> hi. >> he filed a grievance to have asatru moved from the list of gangs. robbie marshall and assistant superintendent jack hendrixs have granted murray a hear ing on the matter. >> if you were in a leadership position and you saw someone come in to your community or in to your services with ill will or intent to participate in a security group or activity what
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would be your take? >> i would say go back from where they came. there's no reason to bring ill will to the hall. it is a sacred place and if one person is sick in the group than we're all sick. if you are in the community you have a say so. if it's anything that's kind of, you know, controversial it does get voted on. >> can you elaborate on that a little bit? >> let's say somebody had a new idea for how we salute each oh or something. >> you talk about greeting someone. >> particular hand shakes or something. as a fraternity people like to set themselves apart. >> you stated that, or your community, have a greeting that you refer to as a salute. can you show me what that refers to? >> no, i never said that. oh, you mean we say something. we say hail sa which means hello and good health.
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>> so you weren't referring to a gesture or body language or anything like that. >> no. >> like a lot of white supremacists d. they do the hitler salute. >> no, sir. >> i have one major question here. what is your input on other races joining your community? >> we will discriminate against no one regardless of race, gender, sex, creed, nationality, origin or religion. we won't discriminate from that. >> if you had a minority in a leadership role? >> we haven't. >> if that opportunity arose would that be allowed? >> yes, it would. >> mr. hendrix any other questions? >> not today. >> marcus, do you have any questions for us? >> no, i don't. >> thank you very much. >> the final decision could still be weeks off but the wait is over for leonard mcquay. prison officials have denied his request to be moved back to general population. >> it seems like he has everything in the world going for him, but when you really sit
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down and you really listen, off the unit, when he thinks you can't hear him talking, some of the things he talks about, negative toward staff, when a staff person was assaulted by another offender he was applauding. that's a telltale sign he's not ready to go in to the general population. >> i don't want to lose my mind on a unit like this. i don't want to physically begin to deteriorate where i can't get no help. so i'm saying, i want to actually be given an opportunity to do something progressive with my life back here at solitaire confinement i can't do that.
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due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. i don't beat around the bush when it comes to the racist term. i'm absolutely a racist. >> inmates find themselves in racial conflict. >> he and two white offenders were involved with assaulting a black offender. >> anything can pop off from this situation, you know? you've got haters everywhere you go. >> but some seek conflict elsewhere. >> child molesters are the crap on the bottom of my boot if i were out tending stalls. >> all of a sudden, they were ki


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