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at senator rand paul. and announcing breaking news from the supreme court. the justices have just issued a ruling in an important free speech case. nbc news justice correspondent pete williams joins us live from the court with this decision. >> reporter: right, this has to do with messages posted on facebook by a pennsylvania amusement park worker after he and his wife separated. and the messages were at least to her pretty scary after she got a restraining order against him, he wrote, put it in your pocket is it thick enough to stop a bullet. two years before the mass killing at sandy hook he wrote, enough elementary schools in a ten-mile radius to issue the most heinous school shooting ever imagined. the jury told him the test here isn't what the sender meant, it's what the receiver perceived, and if the perceiver, receiver of the message thought they were a threat that was
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enough for a conviction. the supreme court said, nope that cannot be the standard. what the person the defendant has in mind is an important element, so the supreme court said it's not enough just to say the message was perceived it's scary, you have to at least prove the sender meant it to be scary or had some reason to believe that it would be perceived as scary by the person receiving it. so it's not technically a free speech case but it is a major blow for freedom of expression on the internet. on the other hand, there were women's groups here that argued that a ruling like this would make it much easier for estranged husbands to stalk and intimidate the people they were married to. so it's 8-1 decision surprisingly. >> wow, that is interesting. a lot of people will continue to discuss that but you are looking at law and so many believe our laws are behind as far as timing what's happening online particularly social
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media. but i want to move on though pete, another decision this one regarding a case that we talked a lot about here a muslim woman taking on her employer at the time, a huge retailer, abercrombie & fitch. >> right, she wore a head scarf when she applied for the job and abercrombie had a rule employees could not wear anything on their heads because that would be against the image they wanted to project in their stores. and the supreme court ruled in a case in which abercrombie said look we can't be expected to read in the minds of these applicants. they have to tell us what their religious accommodation needs are and the supreme court said no that's not quite right. if the store has some idea that a religious accommodation might be necessary, it can't ignore it, so it makes it easier for people to pursue these claims and puts retailers on notice they have to be more sensitive to be noticed, that abercrombie long since changed their policy
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in this manner. >> all right, thank you very much, pete williams discussing two cases that certainly will send shock waves as far as discussions anyway. now to another developing story we are following today involving our nation's security. it is the ongoing fight on capitol hill over government surveillance under the patriot act. parts of which were allowed to expire at midnight last night after the senate failed to reach a last minute deal. in an extraordinary sunday session, kentucky senator rand paul blocked what would have been a temporary extension of several key provisions of the patriot act. >> we are not collecting the information as spies. we are not collecting the information of terrorists we are collecting all american citizens' records all of the time. are we going to so blindly give up our freedom, are we going to so blithely go along and say, take it? well, i'm not going to take it anymore. >> senator paul also struck back
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at the fierce and vocal opposition from many members within his own party. >> that would mean disarming completely and arbitrarily based on a campaign of disinformation in the face of growing, aggressive, and sophisticated threats. growing, aggressive and sophisticated threats. that's a totally unacceptable outcome. >> are we so frightened we are willing to give up our freedoms? are we willing to trade liberty for security? people here in town think i'm making a huge mistake. some of them i think, secretly want there to be an attack on the united states so they can blame it on me. >> senator paul's move means that intelligence agencies like the fbi and cia no longer have access to several surveillance tools available to them since after 9/11 attacks, that includes the nsa's bulk
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collection of phone data also as well as the lone wolf and roving wiretap provisions. the senate however, was able to move ahead on the u.s. freedom act, which contains many of the same provisions and passed the house last week. the senate is expected to vote on that bill by wednesday. let me bring in nbc's luke russert with more details from capitol hill. first, the politics of this. we know senator lindsey graham announcing he's running for president, taking on rand paul but to hear rand paul say there are some people secretly wishing for an attack so they could blame him, it's stunning rhetoric. >> it's quite stunning and it shows you just how heated the senate floor got yesterday. you also had senator from arizona, john mccain, who is extremely vocal and vehemently saying the fact that these provisions are allowed to expire made the united states less safe. and you saw a few dust ups he had with rand paul. you're also hearing criticism
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privately from people who have been understanding of rand paul that said look he's doing way too much for his presidential campaign regarding this issue and using that on the senate floor, which is a misuse of senate business. that's the criticism on him. in terms of where we go from here tamron we expect the senate tomorrow to go through a few amendments by mitch mcconnell and others which some say could strengthen it or change it, but it that happens, i was told by kevin mccarthy, i asked him, would you, in fact take up a revamped version of the usa freedom act, which passed last month in the house with 338 volts? he said no sent over a large bipartisan majority so remains unclear, so that becomes the question, how quickly can it get through the senate, tomorrow, early wednesday, and how fast will the house react to them. it's not unforeseeable to see some sort of standoff between the house and the senate if
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house leaders feel the 338 vote margin they had was worth it and they don't want to have to go back to relitigate the issue again. something to keep an eye on here, the house feels like it's a slam dunk. >> thank you, luke. in the washington post friday republican senator mike lee of utah, one of the original cosponsors wrote, "vital national security programs that touch on our fundamental civil liberties deserve a full open honest, and unrushed debate. they should not be subject to cynical government-by-cliff brinksmanship. if congress particularly republicans in congress ever want to improve its standing among the american people it must abandon this habit of political gamesmanship." senator mike lee joins me now from capitol hill. senator, thank you so much for your time. >> thank you, good to be with you. >> let's talk about what you said about the political gamesmanship. here you have senator rand paul
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running for president saying there are people wishing for something to happen in this country so that he can be blamed for this. what's your reaction to what he said? >> you know i'm not sure i share that view. i don't think i know any red-bloodied american or any member of congress who wants an act of terror to be carried out and succeed on american soil but what i do know is this is a debate that should have happened previously. it should have happened at some point over the last four years. we knew this date was coming. we knew the patriot act provisions were going to expire. i've been working for a couple of years on legislation to deal with this and i've been trying to bring it up on the senate floor, tried to bring it up the week before we recessed. we should have stayed here we shouldn't have recessed we should have passed it before we left. our bill would actually take care of the national security concerns while also accommodating the fourth amendment and privacy interests of the american people. >> you have said there's a balanced attendant that should be had here.
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i want to read something slate wrote about the u.s. freedom act. it says while the usa freedom act includes worthwhile elements, it doesn't go nearly far enough. we can't help but worry that the vague language in the bill's key provisions will provide a new lease on life to surveillance programs that haven't yet been and may never be disclosed to the public. so let's talk on the side as you said a balanced debate here for those concerned about their privacy after what was revealed from edward snowden's leaks. >> look i think it is a balanced approach to say we want to be able to protect american national security and we understand that the american people aren't comfortable with the nsa going out and telling telephone service providers, send us all your records, records on every call made in america. and we don't care whether you're sending us records that are of telephone calls made by people who have no connection whatsoever to any terrorism ring. we want all of them.
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they are not comfortable with that but they are comfortable of the idea the nsa saying okay, we want to be able to get those records that are just one or two degrees removed from a phone number that's been identified with a terrorism ring. that's a reasonable accommodation, what this bill would allow the nsa to go after. >> what about those including your colleague republican senator john mccain who says on the other side of this debate i believe his words were the most middle east is literally on fire. we're watching inging isis take on a more powerful role throughout now syria and iraq as well and never before. since 9/11 we needed all of the tools necessary to prevent an attack here in the united states. >> yeah i understand the argument. my response is look these provisions would not have expired. section 215 would have been modified so as to eliminate bulk data collection but i don't think the absence of bulk
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data collection and having bulk data collection replaced with a more targeted investigative tool is going to leave us vulnerable and got a lot of support on this including the director of the nsa, admirable rojgers, who agrees this would protect us. what we need to do is pass the house-passed bill which was passed with an overwhelming bipartisan majority of 338 votes to 88 votes a couple weeks ago. >> senator mike lee, thank you so much for your time. we greatly appreciate it. >> thank you. we are still waiting to hear a date and location for beau biden's funeral as condolences from the white house to the capitol and, quite honestly all across the country are pouring in. the son of vice president joe biden, as you probably know now, passed away saturday night after losing his nearly two-year battle with brain cancer. he's being remembered as a dedicated public servant, soldier, husband, father and
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son. nbc's white house correspondent kristen welker has the very latest. kristen, you can look again, we talk about the famous names in washington who reached out and said their thoughts and prayers are with the biden family but social media over the weekend, people from all over reaching out. >> it really is. this is something that's tragic for people all across the country. we know vice president biden is at his home in delaware with his family today, as the political world and people all across the country are mourning beau biden, who was taken far too soon. a grieving vice president biden called his son beau the finest man any of us have ever known. a special father-son bond that was clear to everyone. >> my friend my father my hero. >> born in 1969 beau was often by his father's side growing up but he became a politician in his own right, a decorated iraq war veteran, who was twice elected as delaware's attorney general, but family came first.
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>> this is an incredible loss. beau was an extraordinary person. >> the grief gripped washington where lawmakers offered emotional tributes sunday. >> i'd just like to express my sincere condolences to the entire biden family. >> i think about life cut too short. >> the obamas also paid their respects traveling to biden's home in a smaller than usual all-black motorcade. the president said beau was just like his dad and made a difference in the lives of all he touched and he lives on in their hearts. this is not the first time tragedy hit the biden family. beau was barely 4 when he was in a car accident that killed his mother and sister. joe biden just elected to the u.s. senate was sworn in by beau's hospital bedside. >> one of my earliest memories was being in that hospital. my dad always at our side. >> beau was diagnosed with brain cancer two years ago and after treatment was given a clean bill of health but this spring he relapsed, the vice president keeping his pain private, but became deeply personal at a
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graduation speech just days before beau checked into the hospital for the last time. >> my dad's definition of success is when you look at your son and daughter and realize they've turned out better than you, and they did. >> the biden family is working on the details of beau biden's funeral services. we could learn those details as early as today. tamron? >> kristen, thank you. his death is raising more questions about brain cancer and who's at risk. the chairman of the department of neurological surgery at cleveland, thank you so much for joining us. i heard a lot of people ask this question, is there a way to tell if you are at risk for brain cancer, if there is a test what is the answer to that? >> well unfortunately, there's really no clear answer to that. unfortunately, as i said symptoms can occur in almost anyone and i think the important thing is when something does occur, when you do have a new neurological deficit, that's the time to get it checked out.
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>> dying at the age of 46 of brain cancer with any disease, 46 seems so young, but when you look at the survival rate combined with his age, what does that tell us? >> well we know that unfortunately, brain tumors can present with a very aggressive type of growth and it is very difficult to treat some of these types of tumors. and so i think, again, this was someone taken at the prime of life and certainly our thoughts and prayers go out to the family. >> as i understand, there are no stages with brain cancer. explain that to us. >> well, again, it's not exactly correct, there are two different types. some of these can be lower forms of types of aggressiveness in the tumors and they can then progress to the more malignant types. other types can be a grade four sigh and that's the type that too often takes people early in life. >> indeed this is the case. thank you so much for joining us
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with some insight. as you pointed out, the most important thing, a family that's grieving and children who are now without their father. we greatly appreciate you joining us. >> thank you. developing now, senator lindsey graham just announced his run for presidency in front of a huge crowd in south carolina. much more on his announcement and how he's taking on rand paul perhaps to pick up some heat and get attention and traction. also ahead, suspected nazi war criminals being paid tens of millions of dollars in u.s. social security benefits. this according to an explosive new report from the associated press. i'll talk with one of the reporters who helped blow the lid off that story. also ahead, former house speaker denny hastert is expected in court within days accused of breaking federal laws to cover up an alleged sexual misconduct act with a male student. a live report next. >> when i first came out of the coma, i was a mess.
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i was cursing out every day, throw things at her, only thing she would say to me everything's going to be all right. >> emotional tracy morgan speaking out for the first time since the crash that severely injured him and killed one of his best friends. he talked about his painful recovery, even revealing how his wife and their little baby narrowly escaped being on that bus. we'll have the full exclusive interview coming up. [ male announcer ] ours was the first modern airliner, revolutionary by every standard. and that became our passion. to always build something better airplanes that fly cleaner and farther on less fuel. that redefine comfort and connect the world like never before. after all, you can't turn dreams into airplanes unless your passion for innovation is nonstop. ♪ ♪ you total your brand new car. nobody's hurt,but there will still be pain. it comes when your insurance company
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developing now, senator lindsey graham just announced he's running for president. let's take a listen. >> it is time for america to come back, and come back we will.
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and the way you come back is make sure the next president is an informed and decisive commander in chief, ready to deal with the threats i just described. we've learned over the past six year s years speeches don't make us safe. if they did, we would be safe. superior power and resolve is the only way to be safe. i'm running for president of the united states because i am ready to be commander in chief on day one. i am ready on day one to defend our nation with sound strategy a strong military stable alliances, and a steady
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determination. i've been in the middle east more times than i can count. as a united states senator and a reserve officer in the united states air force, to all who have served our country, raise your hand. god bless every one of you. i have more experience with national security than any other candidate in this race. that includes you, hillary. we will have a reset with russia that sticks.
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i know our friends, enemies alike, but most importantly, they know me. i have listened learned, prepared myself for job of commander in chief. i've served in the air force for 33 years. it's been a true pleasure and honor. i've spent much of my adult life as part of the team committed to defending america, protecting our way of life. making sure that we're safe. politicians focus on elections, the military focuses on the mission. if given the privilege to serve as your president, i'll focus on the mission to defend america, to protect our way of life and to lead the next generation a
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stronger safer, better generation than we inherited. that will not be easy. it never has. there are dangers that must be faced and as usual, the best of us will have to face the worst of them. the best of us are the 1% of americans who are the men and women of the united states armed forces. i cannot promise as commander in chief that their dangers that they confront will be less. the risk they run, the sacrifices they make will be fewer or easier. but i can assure them they will
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have the leadership to defeat our enemies. i can promise them their sacrifices won't be wasted. and they won't fight with their hands tied behind their backs. we will end this conflict on our terms, we will win. those who believe we can disengage from the world at large and be safe from leading by behind vote for someone else, i am not your man. those who believe the best way to defend ourself is to lead the world, make history rather than be overwhelmed by it i ask for your support. join me if you want to tackle the problems at home that have been kicked down the road
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because they are too hard to fix or too easy to demagogue. watch them do the hard but right thing has put social security and medicare in serious jeopardy. anybody own social security and medicare? anybody want to be on social security and medicare one day? all of us. as my generation retires, both programs are growing bust. we have to fix entitlement programs to make sure people who need the benefits the most receive them. that's going to require determined presidential leadership.
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i know from personal experience how important these programs are. to the lives of millions of americans. as darlene mentioned, we lost our parents when i was a young man, and she was in middle school. we depended on social security benefits to survive. i've been fortunate, i've done better than i ever dreamed. if i and others like me had to take a little bit less and pay a little more to help those who need it most, so be it. and younger people you may just have to work a little bit longer. as president, i'll gladly do what it takes to save the programs that once saved my family.
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now to those of you who yearn for a healthy and safe environment, i would join your cause. to those who seek energy independence, i will be your champion. i am tired of spending hundreds of billions a years overseas to buy oil from people who hate us. we must have energy independence, and i believe in the process it's possible to produce a safe clean environment and create new well paying jobs for americans of all generations. to my fellow republicans, i'll be a champion for limited and effective government in a strong national defense. i'll be a voice for social conservative values without apology.
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or animosity. i love my party. i am committed to see it grow and prosper. to my friends in the other party, on the big things we share common taste. i will work with you to strengthen the country we both love. our differences are real and we'll debate them but you're not my enemy, you're my fellow countryman. my enemies are those who despise our shared values the enemies of enlightenment, the culture of death that seeks to destroy the dignity of life. we'll invite them together with our partners and we'll win. to americans who trust neither
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party, i will seek the political common ground our nation so desperately needs to find. that's what i've done before. don't take my word for it examine my record. i got the scores to prove it. i intend to be a president not of a single party, but of a nation. i want to do more than make big governments smaller, i want to help make a great nation greater. i've traveled the world and had experiences and opportunities i never dreamed of. i've been lucky so much of my life, but never luckier than in the people and place i come from.
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those of you who have known me for a long time know i've had some ups and downs. as a young man i lost my parents, struggled financially and emotionally, and i would not have made it through those times without you. and the example my parents set for me. there are a lot of so-called self made people in this world, i am not one of them. my family my friends, neighbors, and my faith picked me up when i was down believed in me when i had doubts. you made me the man i am today.
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i'm a man with many debts to my family my friends, to you, to south carolina, to the country. i'm running for president to repay those debts. and to fight as hard for you as you fought for me. in the end, ladies and gentlemen, that's the only promise i can make. it's the only pledge i will sign. the only one that matters. if you make me president, i'll fight each state harder than i fought the day before to keep this country safe prosperous and as good as the people who make it great. i humbly ask for your support
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and your vote. i will work every day to make you proud. god bless. >> there you have it he's made it official yet another republican jumping into the race to secure that gop nomination. this time it's lindsey graham. joining me live now, nbc news political editor carrie dann. there you have it senator graham getting a little personal talking about his background and having to raise his siblings after the death of his parents, but also hitting what you and the first read team pointed out, really is his key to success in this race and that's taking on rand paul and those who may be what he perceives as weak on foreign policy and this nation's military and defending this country. >> that's right, tamron. we heard such an emphasis during this announcement speech on the
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issue of foreign policy. he's said in the past that rand paul is not -- is too weak on this issue and is something that he's going to press throughout this race. one thing to keep in mind is for lindsey graham to be able to do that, he needs to have a national platform. this is a big day for him, obviously, but going forward, he'll be a foil for rand paul and rand paul will hit right back at him. the question is whether that's going to happen on the national debate stage. right now lindsey graham is not polling in a him on the stage with rand paul come august if the numbers stay where they are so lindsey graham has to hope for a big growth in his national profile so he can qualify to go head to head toe to toe, with rand paul on that stage. >> we talk about senator sanders and what he means for hillary clinton's campaign in bringing her to the left someone like a lindsey graham, what does he mean for the frontrunners jeb bush, for example, finally enters the race? >> that's right, i think lindsey graham is going to try to pull his party back to where his home base has been.
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the republican party has been much more hawkish on issues of foreign policy, but we've seen a shift on that especially on issues like the balance of privacy rights and surveillance with national security of the we saw that with rand paul yesterday, he was victorious from keeping the senate from reauthorizing the nsa collection of bulk met data so rand paul has had victory on the front and the party is pulled and divided over the issue. lindsey graham is going to try to pull in the opposite direction and say, look these are programs that keep us safe and by the way, if we need a greater military footprint and presence, i'm not afraid to say that. >> that will be an interesting message when you look at the polling and the lack of support for more or major military actions from americans right now on both sides of the aisle. carrie thank you so much for joining us. we greatly appreciate it. also developing right now, we learned secretary of state john kerry will remain in a hospital in geneva switzerland, until his doctor from
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massachusetts arrives to inspect the broken leg he suffered in a bicycle crash. andrea mitchell confirms the secretary's orthopedic surgeon is headed to switzerland right now. kerry hit a curb and fell while cycling yesterday in the alps he reportedly needs surgery now made more complex because the break is near the hip repolicement he got six years ago. the doctor headed to switzerland performed that hip replacement. secretary kerry was in geneva for talks in an effort to reach a nuclear deal with iran later this month. he was scheduled to be in paris tomorrow for the start of an important two-day international conference on combatting isis but a state department spokesperson says kerry still plans to participate in that conference, but through video conference call. he's also expected to travel to cuba if a final agreement is reached to open the u.s. embassy in havana. it's unclear when secretary kerry might be able to travel again. tracy morgan is speaking out
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for the first time since his car accident almost a year ago. morgan and his friends, including fellow comedian james mcnair were traveling back from a comedy show when a walmart truck collided with their limo bus, killing mcnair, leaving morgan severely injured. tracy morgan spoke exclusively to matt lauer about his road to recovery, death of his best friend, and the way back to the comedy stage. >> you're a sight for sore eyes. >> thank you. >> how do you feel? >> i'm -- i'm -- i can't believe i'm here. i can't believe i'm in front of you, i'm here seeing the tragedy that happened. it touches me. >> give me a sense of what the last year's been like for you emotionally, tracy. >> it's been up and down. i have my family you know i have my wife megan, we're about to be married. and my daughter, my son, they keep my spirits up.
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and mark landsman and these people that helped me get my spirits up and tina fey and all the people calling me. the case is settled, but the pain is always going to be there for jimmy mac, he's a close friend of mine comrade in comedy, he was a loving man and he was a warm man. he was a good man. hard to see that he's gone. that's it. >> can i ask you to take me back to june of last year, tracy, and that accident? did you -- >> i don't remember the accident. i just remember when i came to megan, my fiance was right there, my son was right there, and mark was right there, ben was right there, that's what i remember. >> you were in a limo type of a van or bus hit by a tractor trailer that was going over the speed limit. the impact was devastating, as we've seen those pictures.
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you say you don't remember the accident. did you see james mcnair after the accident? >> the last time i saw jimmy, jimmy wrote a joke for me it was a donald sterling joke and i asked him to call me the day before, i'll be there, i love you, peace. we went there and we did the show i did the joke and everybody got a break, i looked to the side and see jimmy standing there laughing. that was the last time i seen him alive. >> when did you find out he died in the crash? >> two weeks later after i came out the coma. lady told me we put jimmy to rest. i just -- i was -- i just came out of a coma so when i got home, it really hit me. every day i would watch the accident on youtube, and one day i came across this funeral on youtube, and i just -- i lost it for about a week. >> a lot of people wouldn't have
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wanted to go to youtube and see that. why was it important for you to go see that? >> had to know what happened to my friend. i had to know. i had to pay my respects. and that was my way. >> after the accident tracy, there were so many varied reports of your condition. some said you were in a coma some said just broken bones. what injuries exactly did you suffer? >> well as you can see the scars on my head. there are times when i have my good days and my bad days where i forget things you know there are times when i got the headaches and the nosebleeds and i won't even let my lady know because i don't want her to be worried about it but i have my good days and my bad days. >> you told me something in the green room that you almost always travel with your family that when you do gigs you almost always bring them with you and this one time because your daughter was teething you did not bring them.
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>> yeah i told megan, i said you and the babies stay home and we'll go to delaware and i'll be right back. because i know when i look at that accident i don't think my daughter was 10 months old, she wouldn't have made it megan wouldn't have made it. i don't know man. that's really the thing that tears me up. when i first came out of the ceo coma, i was a mess i would curse out every day, throw things at her, only thing she would say to me is everything is going to be all right. so one day, i've been having these dreams about my room i was in, you want to see it when i got off the elevator i seen all these faces coming to me that i remembered. and guess who came around the corner, nurse jackie i grabbed her, wouldn't let her go. i said i'm sorry, i'm sorry. she said i told you everything was going to be all right.
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and i had david clark, he was a nurse there, he would rub my hand and say everything going to be all right, young blood. >> has the emotional side tracy, been harder for you to deal with than the physical side? >> bones heal. but the loss of my friend will never heal. we know each other a long time. i'm happy walmart stepped up to the plate in a tremendous way and they took full responsibility, as you said because it's true they took full responsibility really happy they looked out for jimmy mac's family. i know my friend can rest in peace now because they took responsibility for that. it was a misunderstanding that got squared away they came through in the clutch. >> what are your goals, tracy, you want to get back to performing? >> i love comedy. i love comedy. i'll never stop loving her. i love comedy and can't wait to get back to her, but right now my goal is to heal and get
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better, because i'm not 100% yet. i'm not. when i'm there, you'll know it. i'll get back to making you laugh. i promise you. >> you always have. >> great interview with tracy morgan. by the way, tracy morgan's attorney added tracy expects to meet with the walmart ceo later this week. coming up another celebrity recovering from a bizarre accident, we'll have the latest on pop star enrique iglesias' condition after an accident with a drone left him bloodied on stage. it is one of the stories we're following around the news nation. and suspected nazi war criminals paid tens of millions of dollars in u.s. social security benefits that according to explosive new reports on the associated press. i'll talk to one of the reporters behind the story. we'll be right back. when i started at the shelter, no one wanted benny. so i adopted him. he's older so he needs my help all day. when my back pain flared up
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information in a report that was released later this week by the social security administration's inspector general. it involves the extent to which suspected nazi war criminals and others believed to be connected to nazi atrocities were able to come to the u.s. then collect millions in social security payments. a copy of the report obtained by the associated press reveals 133 suspected nazi war criminals, ss guards, and others received $20.2 million in u.s. social security benefits. that's for a period ranging from 1962 until, get this this january. it is far more than previousliest mated. joining me live now richard lardner who reported on this. richard, thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you for inviting me. >> obviously, your report getting a lot of attention, but this investigation has been going on for some time and actually even included an inquiry from democratic
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congressman carolyn maloney back in 2014 but these payments were still going on this january. what is going on here? >> right, well there was nothing in the law until congress passed and president obama signed the no social security for nazis act in december that prevented the payments from being made. under law prior to that an order of deportation was required so unless you were formally deported by the u.s. and you left the country, you could keep getting your social security even if your citizenship was taken away if you were denaturalized. >> obviously, people at home are wondering, who didn't read the report here how did something like this exist in the first place? >> yeah well that's a question for the ages i suppose, it never was closed until very recently. and perhaps it was because it was a fairly small number of people. we reported back in october that the loophole was actually being used by the justice department
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as a bargaining chip in order to get suspected nazis out of the country. what was happening was deportation and extradition is a very lengthy, complex legal process. doj was under a lot of pressure to get suspected nazis out of the country as quickly as possible, so they were making essentially deals, settlement arrangements with suspects and they would get the suspect to sign an agreement that said they would leave the country and they would revoke their citizenship in the exchange being because, again, the bar for losing your benefits is deportation, if you left the country voluntarily, your benefits could continue. >> the inspector general's report is expected to be released this week. it will not include names of nazi suspects who received benefits, although your report at least mentions a few, including a woman who received over $120,000 in social security
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benefits, even after she admitted that she was stationed at a concentration camp during world war ii. she was deported to germany in 2006, the concentration camp. she was deport in 2006. what will we get out of this report do you think? >> we'll get out the fullest public accounting of how much was spent and how much alleged or actual nazi war crime suspects and former ss guards received the benefits. it really is as far as we can tell the fullest account thus far beyond what ap is reporting over the years. this is the most comprehensive list. the ig had access to internal data from social security and access to people which by the way we requested and did not get. >> well you know this is compelling reporting. it's something to stop you in
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your tracks. it's unbelievable when you read how much money was spent out of u.s. social security dollars. thank you for joining us today. >> thank you. new fallouts about dennis hastert expected in court within days. why his college university stripped him of a prestigious hon thoracic. our live report is next. greg. what should i do with your fish? gary. just put it in the cooler. if you're a fisherman, you tell tales. it's what you do. if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance you switch to geico. it's what you do. put the fish in the cooler! nobody told us to expect it... intercourse that's painful due to menopausal changes it's not likely to go away on its own. so let's do something about it. premarin vaginal cream can help
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. there is new fallout from the federal charges against former house speaker dennis hastert. his alma mater in illinois removed its name from the economic policy center. the chicago sun times reports it was at hastert's request his name be removed. his resignation from the college board last week in the wake of indictment on charges of lying to fbi and violating federal banking laws. he resigned there. he is not responding to charges that stemmed from his agreement to pay $3.5 million to quote
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compensate and conceal his prior miscongress duct that took place 30 years ago when he was a wrestling coach and high school teacher. he is expected to appear in court in chicago this week. high-rise scare in new york city tops our stories afternoon the neigh today. an investigation is undera after the four ton system fail four stories. it was being holstered up by crane when the cord snap. all injuries were incredibly minor. more on that i'm sure. texas is starting to see sunshine. lake levels near dallas are so high water is spilling over to nearby streets and forcing some to evacuate from their homes. over the weekend dallas fire rescue responded to 200 calls regarding high water. meanwhile the northeast is gearing up for more heavy rain and flooding today.
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a representative for enrique iglesias is on the mend after his fingers were sliced. he was performing and grabbed a drone. apparently he was trying to show the audience the vantage point view from the drone. he continued to perform another 30 minutes despite being advised to leave. his shirt was covered in blood. see it there. apparently he's on the mend. that does it for this edition of "news nation." check out gut check online. up next, "andrea mitchell reports." your mom's got your back. your friends have your back. your dog's definitely got your back. but who's got your back when you need legal help? we do. we're legalzoom, and over the last 10 years, we've helped millions of people protect their families and run their businesses. we have the right people on-hand to answer your questions backed by a trusted network of attorneys.
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