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>> it's huge police presence. everybody's got shotgunning and pistols. >> we are looking underneath every rock. behind every tree and inside every structure until we catch these two. >> good afternoon. welcome to "the cycle." the frantic search for two inmates continues in upstate new york. here's what we know right now. the search remains centers three miles or so from where suite and matt escaped. more than 800 officers and agents are combing through thick brush to find them. attention continues to so you should clin con correctional employee joyce mitchell who sources close to the investigation say agreed to be the getaway driver before getting cold foot. sources confirm she will be charged and unclear what the
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charges will be. >> each day we're learning more and more information from her as far as what her involvement was. what her relationships were with both matt and suite and from that we're just developing leads that we continue to investigate. >> as for suite and matt dogs are out and on the prowl. >> personal effects are available from the jail cell to give the dogs a scent and put them on it and like i said that's what those dogs do. their whole life is working right now and want to find them. >> this is what we're trained to do and what they're great at. some of the best dogs that are out there working. they'll keep on it until they're too tired to go and then that's when we bring in a second team to take on and keep on working. >> national krort adam riese with a unique perspective. what have you learned? >> reporter: good afternoon.
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they're all part of the search. it's the dhs, the state police the local, federal, all looking at a perimeter just about three miles from where i am. it's a five-mile perimeter. coordination containment and saturation. they have contained it and now saturate. they've been in the process several hours now. they have 800 law enforcement officials part of this. inch by inch going through this. what is to be very tough terrain, very thick woods. the weather has not helping at all. as they continue to search. now, a dhs they gave us a tour of the assets they're using. they have the search dogs that will pick up on some of these scents and got a new blackhawk helicopter that they're putting to use along with the other chopper that is are in use to try to locate these people through infrared behind a rock or a building they can see them. listen to what they had to say about what they cannot and can see from the air. >> these camera systems can look
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down on the ground and detect heat signatures so at night, they would fly over and turn on these devices and they would be able to see suspects that were hidden on the ground or that were fleeing. now, the terrain and the weather is not going to get any better as evening comes. it will get even worse. the temperature will dip down to below freezing. some officials have told us that they can't see ten feet in front of them. but the search does continue in this contained area. they're going inch by inch through this grid system. abby? >> all right. adam reiss, thank you for that report and now the guest, jeff hollis, a history professor here in the city but he also knows a thing or two about the new york state prison system. his dad worked at the clinton correctional and jeff focused his dissertation. and we have author of "the art
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of the con." and how employees are manipulated by the people they're charged with guarding. jeff, as i said you knows the ins and outs of this prison system and the area. it is turned into an international search and the focus is very choice to this prison. are we running out of places where these two could be hiding? >> well i think that if we think about this historically since that's sort of how i've been thinking about it over the past week the fact that they haven't been found yet i think should indicate to us that they may actually have left the area. it's entirely possible that they're nowhere close to where the search is actually going on. i'd actually say that there's a 50/50 chance that they're either there in that area where the police are searching or gone somewhere else and the search needs to be rowelocated. >> lieutenant, let's get to the heart of why we're talking about
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this. joyce mitchell a woman who worked at the prison, helped them escape because she was manipulated by them. some reports have said maybe she was smitten with one of them. so this is the heart of your book so let's get to the issue. how's it that inmates are sable to manipulate the civilians around them when they have absolutely no leverage? >> well, thank you very much for having me on. and i really appreciate the opportunity. i just want to start off saying there's a lot of good people in corrections. there's well-trained people. and we and i was former correctional officer. woirked at fairfax county jail in virginia. we go by different moral plain than the inmates. we live by the rules. but you're dealing with a population that lived by their own rules and they enable people. they use people. they cheat people. the rules don't apply to them. so they're going to look for any opportunity to exploit any
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weakness. i trained civilians in my job as programs director at the fairfax jail. i trained many civilian workers and the theme of our training and i had a great staff to do it with was you can never forget where you are and who you're dealing with. this is not the average person. if they see a weakness if they see a rule being bent or any kind of weakness at all, they will exploit it. and they're masters at it. that's why i wrote the book. i saw people -- i saw good people getting fooled. i saw people getting used and the careers were ruined. family lives were ruined. so it -- it prompted me to write the book. and it's now in the second edition. >> well, it's apparently a common enough problem that there are whole blog posts and professional advice out there
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teaching correctional officers how to spot warning signs among their colleagues what to look for if they're developing an unhealthy relationship with an inmate. so, if you're one of these con-artists to try to manipulate a prison worker, how do you start to get in and convince them to help you and you're a good guide and will be on their side? >> excellent question. what happens is that you have inmates that they're great listeners and i do in-service classes on inmate manipulation and boundaries. they're great listeners. they will hear if someone's having a personal problem. they will hear if someone's having a financial problem. they can exploit that. the staff and i tell my classes and i told my own staff many times, be quiet when you're around inmates. don't let them hear too much about what's going on in your life. don't give them personal information. because they will take that and
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they will take it and they will run with it. so, for example, if i am reporting to work at the jail an i'm going through a bad time at home a divorce, or a separation, i'm talking to my colleagues and inmates hear it. the inmate mopping the floor. the inmate pushing the broom. that knowledge will get back to the inmate population. and what will happen is that they'll say, oh lieutenant cornelius is having trouble at home. and the next thing i know i might have an inmate come up and, hey, i hear you have trouble at home. gosh, i just went through that too. could be completely untrue and now looking at that inmate as not an inmate charged as or convicted as a crime, but wow, this is a person going through what i'm going through and that's where it starts. the door has opened. so a key thing in training is keep quiet. >> wow. >> don't let them hear too much
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or any personal information. >> yeah. that's really eerie stuff. jeff, this hits close to home for you. you wrote your dissertation on prisons in upstate new york. is there something we're covering here? is there something we're missing about this prison about what could have happened here? >> well i'll just add a couple points to the discussion. one is that working inside a really tightly controlled environment, a maximum security prison, no prison even the tightest security prison is 100% secure. so, it is really i think important for people working in prisons to have aimable relationships with the people that are incarcerated to sort of keep the peace on a daily basis so that's sometimes does involve sharing details of one's life just to sort of maintain an even keel on a daily basis.
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that's not to suggest every prisoner that finds out a personal detail will escape. my experience and my research showed that most of the prisoners who escaped over the past 170 years in the adirondacks were pretty lazy and dumb. they didn't have a plan for what they were going to do when they got out. they took advantage of moments of lax security. many had not formed relationships with prison staff at all. so i wouldn't generalize too much about prisoners and the relationships they have with their officers. because most of the time those relationships don't lead to the type of episode we have seen this week. >> yeah. gary, i wanted to build on that. this is ari in washington. >> sure. >> when we look at this kind of situation, it allows the country to think more about what our prisons are doing and they have under the law two primary goals, to punish and when possible in
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theory to rehabilitate. >> yes. >> and yet in the maximum security context, as you well know there's a constraint that often goes above both of those try mare goals which is to contain. >> yes. >> with the hardened criminals and the elements they can be difficult, may not have a lot to live for, life sentences or extremely dangerous as we learn about the two individuals and in your experience talk us through the extra burden on the type of facilities that have to worry more about containing sometimes than anything else. >> yes. first of all, doi agree with the professor. you can have interpersonal relationships with inmates. you just have to be very very careful what you talk to them about and you have to keep the subjects on an innocent level. sports teams, movies pop culture. but personal life information you got to be very very careful. people that are in jails and prisons, yes, they're desperate.
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they look at the outside through the bars and as one excon exinmate told me one time after attending a presentation said you know you're right. he said everybody that comes into that jail and prison has what i want and i said what do you mean? he said, access to the outside. so they're going to try, if they're being incarcerated for years and long stretches of time they're going to come up with some pretty good ploys. and i think a key thing is training staff to watch out and the training is crucial, very very crucial. not only if you wear a badge, but if you are a civilian going in to the institution. and training is key. and also we have to watch out for each other. if a sworn officer sees a civilian such as the one in new york, maybe getting too familiar with inmates, that person should
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be brought aside and spoken to and said you know they are prisoners. there are rules. and the rules are there for a reason. think tleer for your safety. they're there for the safety of the public. we have to watch out for each other. i call it a type of watchover role. >> great point. lieutenant gary cornelius, jeff hall thank you both. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thank you. cycling right now, a big vote on capitol hill that could impact the future of the country's trade with asia. president obama hit the hill to make a case and so far it's a split decision. we'll go there live. hillary clinton is about to do something she's never done before. we'll explain. and seven years into his presidency new reports president obama is working behind the scenes to fulfill that promise of closing gitmo. the reporter who broke the story is with us. "the cycle" is rolling on.
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well, this will be the subject of a lot of conversations of white house officials and maybe even the president today and over the weekend and possibly even into early next week so figuring out the legislative procedure and the path forward will principally be responsibility of the members of the legislature but the white house will be involved in those conversations because this is a priority that the president's identified. >> that was the white house reacting just moments ago to a crushing defeat by the president's own party on the much talked about pacific trade deal that josh earnest said it's not over yet. the white house overwhelmingly voted down the taa. correspondent luke russert is on the hill where the president was just this morning lobbying his
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own party and even at the congressional softball game last night. luke, what happened here and maybe more importantly what happens next? >> well abby, a colleague of mine matt fowler said about the strategy of the president, the stepdad that wanted to have a relationship with his kid and went to the game and it blew up in his face. he was trying to make the case to them by going to that softball game, going to the meeting with them this morning to say, hey, help me out here an i wanted to take you through this. it's complex and important and interesting. today's vote on tpa, trade promotion authority, fast track status for the president to negotiate trade deal with other countries without a process in congress subject to taa trade adjustment assistance which helps disenfranchised workers that may lose their jobs due to trade deals passing. taa went down in a big way after
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nancy pelosi bucked president obama and her number two steny hoyer and said no way, i don't like how the deal is crafted. i'm not going to go along with it. a lot of liberals in the party followed nancy pelosi as she is the liberal conscious of the house democrats and it died. we all thought that was the end of it. using a procedural tool kevin mccarthy brought up that tpa vote. it passed the house with 219 votes which means that if they can pass the taa on a revote by tuesday, then this entire thing passes. for that to happen though democrats are going to need to triple the amount they had on the final vote and obama will have to work the phones. republicans will provide about 100 votes if they can because many in their party think that taa is welfare so all these stories about pelosi killing the obama president's little bit premature until tuesday and then see what happens after that.
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nevertheless, some really exciting crazy things here on capitol hill abby. it is like a yoga session with ann romney in park city this weekend. hope to see you there. >> that's also going on. luke, good the see you. for more let's bring in the best expert i know on this former governor of you that jon huntsman. and most importantly, my dad. dad, always good to see you. >> do i look okay? i didn't wear a tie and a nonwhite shirt. >> you always look forever and better than ari in d.c. with you. >> he looks okay. >> listen. >> dad, the president was on the hill as we were saying. one democratic lawmaker was quoted as saying he tried everything except let them try to fly air force one and still leaning no. you have been through trade negotiations before. are they usually tough to sell for congress or is this more about the administration and the
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president's inability to get a deal done? >> they're always pretty close and trade promotion authority gives the executive branch the authority to negotiate deals take it back to congress for an up or down vote opposed to renegotiating the content. this is from the 1974 trade act and trade promotion authority given in '75 until about 1995. i was then involved with the trade team in 2002 to re-up trade promotion authority and that's the second round and then died in 2007. and you have to have trade promotion authority to actually get a deal done. and i remember back in 2002 under president bush's administration it carried by two votes and it was hydra ma trade is always pretty much hydra ma because it's a division between how presidents see trade. whether republican or democrat presidents generally support trade because it's in the national interest for the most part and then down to
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congressional districts and it's more problematic and always isn't a good news story for a certain congressional district. therefore, you have a divide. but i think it's inconceivable that the president didn't have a better sense of where the speaker of the house was for heaven's sake. for this to be a last-minute surprise where you should have been working this through months in advance is inconceivable. >> it is not what the white house wanted to parachute in for the moment of failure. but the story is not over. walk us through why as you say presidents see this as positive for the hunt. how these things work and speak if you will to something that's been criticized from both sides here which is that these deals are too secretive when they're being formed. >> yeah. and i will also add that luke brought up a good point in that trade adjustment assistance part of the trade regime about 40 years. will have to be connected with trade promotion authority going back to the senate for this to ever see the light of day.
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and i suspect it will work and we'll have it then. but presidents see this as fundamentally an important aspect of american power because every nation wants to trade with the united states and we always see it at least in the political debates as kind of a negative. it is generally a positive for the united states. in terms of markets that become open. standards that increasingly have been ratcheted up with respect to labor with respect to the environment, with respect to intellectual property protection. it's slow going and incremental but i'd much rather have the united states out there setting the standards for trade than certain other countries that come to mind. so presidents will always see trade as a tool of national policy. and, for example, the pivot to asia, the rebalanced asia there's a military component, a diplomatic component and a trade come poe tpp. >> let's talk about the criticisms. one of the biggest ones is democrats in particular feel like hey, we heard this sales
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pitch before nafta. nafta costed us jobs. our trade deficit spiked. we lost an estimated almost 700,000 jobs because of nafta. listen to president clinton making the pitch for nafta at the signing for that. >> i believe we have made a decision now that will permit us to create an economic order in the world that will promote more growth more equality better preservation of the environment and a greater possibility of world peace. >> so president clinton said nafta was going to be great for the country. didn't work out for a lot of workers. what makes tpp different? >> well i would argue that trade has been a net plus for the united states. it's been a net plus for global stability for the most part. countries that trade with the united states have to up their game in terms of market opening measures transparency and it even goes down to human rights and i have to tell you that
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having been through trade negotiations, it's really impossible to talk about trade ultimately without talking about things like human rights and cleaning up the environment and a lot of thing that is are good for every community. so the united states is in a pretty good position right now. creating jobs at home. the manufacturing base is coming back. largely because the cost of energy is going down and it's a good time for us to be in the game. but let's not forget this. if we don't engage in those trade opening opportunities, somebody else will. >> but governor let me point out, let me point out one thing that was in this bill or is in this bill this sounds kind of frightening to people. the investor state dispute settlement clause which allows corporations to sue based on future profits and to do so without u.s. courts so you get a french company suing egypt for raising the minimum wage. doesn't that give corporations too much power over policy? >> well this is going to be a controversial subject for a
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while. i'm not quite sure where investor state policy in general is going to land but it's a legitimate issue to debate and the very fact people are out there talking about it before the deal concludes i think is a very good thing. and it gets back to ari's point of transparency generally. we ought to know more about the content of trade agreements and i think there should be more transparency. the reason there isn't right now and people going to capitol hill is because it's still in open and active negotiations and you're negotiating with respect to tpp with 11 different partners and you kind of want to conclude the negotiation before you kind of make it totally public. >> governor jon huntsman dad, always good to see you. >> pleasure. thank you. up next why should you vote for hillary clinton in 2016? she is finally about to explain it to you. vo: with beyond natural dry pet food, you can trust our labels. when we say real meat is the first ingredient, it is number one.
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dynasty with an epic '80s nighttime soap opera. >> you don't know when to stop do you? >> oh yes, i do. when i heard the thump, thump, thump when i know i've driven over something hard and empty like your head. >> dynasty is what this country appears to have with the oval office between two families. this weekend in new york the second clinton to run for the presidency gives an official kickoff speech. monday in miami, the third bush to run for the presidency will finally end the suspense and make it official. can it be a nation of 350 million people there are a few families producing people of presidential caliber? for a frank discussion on 2016 we got to have norm ornstein and the author of "it's even worse than it looks." welcome back norm. >> great to be with you. >> are we seeing a different
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clinton campaign this time around than we saw in '08? >> yeah. we are seeing a very different clinton campaign. first of all, it's different people running it. it's going to be tighter and better organized. and i think we're going to see a campaign better financed and that is -- basically i think unlike last time when we had this figure emerge in barack obama, nobody's going to emerge in the same way. her challenge is more from a press that wants a contest than it does from the other candidates. >> norm, it's great to see you. >> good to see you, too. >> let's talk about the issue of the day which is trade and hillary is silent on thus far. her democratic opponent bernie sanders took her to task for that earlier. let's take a listen. >> when's hillary clinton's position on this transpacific partnership? apparently she has no position. she's not for it. she's not against it.
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it's hard for me to understand how aniened katd hillary clinton or anybody else can not have a position on a major, major issue facing the american people. you have to have a position. >> is she going to be able to keep quiet on tpp or is she going to have to pick a side and which side do you think she'll pick? >> i think she'll take a side one that most of the house democrats have which is we'd love to see a trade bill. this one needs a few adjustments and, you know this is going to emerge again and she may be taken off the hook a little bit here. the most interesting thing is nancy pelosi sent a letter to the other house democrats saying, we could get the votes for this if we had a robust highway bill and she is using this in way for leverage and see it emerge with tweaks in the trade adjustment assistance or a highway bill with democrats voting for it and she can endorse it. >> it's not clear how it will end. nancy pelosi is doing what progressives asked which is to push back and not just treat any
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request as a -- there's spending money on something on that campaign for jeb bush and i don't think they're spending it on the new ads on youtube. take a look at this inundisputed jobs ad. >> we are young for all the young people in this crowd to be able to get a job, a purpose and meaning. >> norm -- sorry. >> that music is so inspirational. >> you could tell he's the undisputed job champion putting it in a font over it and maybe using high schoolers or young people to make the videos, this's great, but what do you think of this and the message to put out after a rough couple of weeks? >> well if you have organ music, you got to be the jobs
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champion. i think you got a campaign that at this point is floundering. i wouldn't make all that much out of it. it's still early. how do you run as jeb bush without shedding the bush image, the bush background? and yet without denouncing your own family and how do you run in a party where the positions you have on common core and immigration among others are out of step? and where you havale alternatives in the establishment rank unlike the last time and didn't really have a whole lot of other candidates who could compete for that territory? it's going to be difficult for him and he's not going to do it through the shock and awe of raising more money because the others have their own billionaires. >> fun fact, the star of "dynasty" was krystal on the show. >> weird. >> norm thank you for your time sir. >> pleasure. back room politics a new behind the scenes push to finally close guantanamo bay s.
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i have said repeatedly that i intend to close guantanamo and i will follow through on this. >> there is no justifyication beyond politics from closing a facility that should have never been opened. >> we have worked responsibly to cut the population of gitmo in half. now it is time to finish the job. >> from the 2008 campaign trail to the white house, barack obama has consistently said he wants to close the facility at guantanamo bay. gitmo is widely criticized as a failed offshore jail. it remains open with just over 100 detainees left. congress made it harder to transfer them and the obama administration stumbled to find a solution. now there are new reports that
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the administration has a new plan and that president obama personally reached out to his old rival john mccain all about it. we have a guest here to tell us about the scoop. what did you find? >> it's been really interesting, john mccain, the senator from arizona, he's now the chairman of the armed services committee, he's complained that early on in obama's administration when he came in he had discussions with mccain of closing the prison that were essentially abandoned so he said for years that if obama wants to get this done why hasn't he given him a plan never been talking to mccain all throughout and then a few weeks ago he told us that he had spoken to obama about a plan to close the facility and since then defense secretary carter national security adviser to the white house came to mccain's office discuss what the plan would look like and carter confirmed he believes it's a good opportunity to see if we
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can get this done. >> talk to us about the politics behind this. it seems like the president and the administration is going about this the right way by taking the temperature of lawmakers on both sides of the aisle to see if this would even do well going to the hill and there are as we were talking in the commercial break republicans not on board with this. how much is it being president obama and how many not wanting to make changes? they l they be more willing to consider this? >> six and one half of the dozen the other. this is one of obama's main campaign promises coming in to close the prison. members of congress particularly on the republican side taken issue with believing obama took too much executive action are resistant thinking it's another example of that. but on the other side they're raising heightened national security concerns with the rise of the islamic state suggesting that this is not a time that we should be looking to transfer detainees of guantanamo and
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cleared by the pentagon six national security agencies by the defense secretary saying that it's potentially too dangerous, they might enr e-engage in terrorism and should be noted that the bush administration actually the height of guantanamo around 800 people. most of those released or transferred happened under bush and dealing with 122 people. obama with 240. he's transferred about 120 and the recidivism investigate lower than it was under the bush administration so if anything the standards for these transfers are actually much higher than the bush administration. >> so how do you alleviate those concerns? what could a potential deal look like that would get enough republican support to be able to get through? >> it is interesting. john mccain believe that is this is a potential path forward and while this is kind of a new chapter in the discussions that are going on the plan looks very similar to what was discussed in 2009 and 2010. democrats and republicans both agree that there's quote/unquote
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worst of the worst. about a dozen never transferred and not enough sufficient evidence for them to be tried. they can't be released because they're too dangerous. the solution from the beginning the plan that they had been discussing was to be transferred to a facility in the united states. what republicans want to see is that this facility would be krold by the u.s. military they would continue to be held as enemy combatants under law of war detention and not given increased rights or access because they're on u.s. soil and what the republicans want to see. they want those assurances that these detainees would essentially be kept behind bars indefinitely. >> molly thanks for joining us. your reporting on this is really interesting en an issue a lot of people care about yet to be fully resolved and appreciate it. up next a sneak peek at a new indy film getting really positive reviews and confronts one of the toughest topics in america and actually tries to make you laugh along the way.
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telling story of a mentally challenged man who believes all he needs to be mentally excellent is to find the right doctor willing to prescribe him the right medication. at stake is freedom from his disability, independence from his abusive mother and a life and mind of his own. >> come on. >> what i did. >> get up! >> i don't think you should come back here anymore. >> it's not like i'm trying to stick you up. >> you signed your own name on it. >> they don't want me around if i'm not mentally excellent. >> stop! >> from here on out, no leaving the house without me. got it? >> please doctor. i need that prescription now. >> knucklehead premiers tonight at the american black film
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festival right here in new york. and here with us is star who plays langston and the filmmaker. thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you. that was a very good pronunciation. >> i practiced. >> screwed up other things and got the name right. that's what matters. what inspired you to make this film and what are some of the issues you wanted to explore? >> well, we wanted to make a film about someone who had an impossible dream and, you know we found that character in the housing projects in brooklyn new york. and, you know we look around and we see lots of different kinds of people and problems and right next door we find the people with the biggest problems. >> folks remember you as chris portlo the homicidal enforcer for the gang. this character is completely different. let's show them a little bit of what you did in this film. >> it's time to eat. >> i can do it myself.
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>> i have to take care of you. come on. open your mouth, langston. come on. open. you know you're going to do this, don't you? no? you ain't getting away with this. here. got a big old noodle for you. open. open. not so. oh! spitting on me. >> talk about the challenge of playing a mentally ill person seems that it would be harder to get inside their skin. >> the way i see it langston just has limitations. given his mental -- delayed mental development and we all have limitations and, you know i like to assume we're all trying to do the best we can given the limitations and he has a different set of limitations so if i give it that type of honesty or that type of earnestness that i experience i
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think, you know it plays itself. >> as it was menlgsed in this country about 10 million people who suffer from serious mental illness. only about half get treatment. i think illness. only about half get treatment. i think a lot of us like to think we understand. you've now tried to play this role try to become this character. how is that changed the way you think about mental illness now? >> i do want to make a distinction. i don't think langston is mentally ill. i think he was born a same way and can't be fixed with medication and someone mental illness is addressed by. i think i addressed it by making sure langston was true to the circumstances. he lives in bed-stuy. he's trying to get an apartment with his girlfriend that no one has ever met before. trying to get away from his abusive mother. >> ben, one thing i think is
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fascinating about this story it is the story that could be happening right next to your in the apartment right next door. these characters are so real and so compelling and you get them so instantly which is a testament to your acting and alfre woodard's acting. i think about this all the time living in a big apartment building. what are the lives going around us that we don't know. >> absolutely. in a movie like this where you're touching on important issues and you're doing what we did which is make it a very entertaining and funny story as well. you've got to take all the other issues much more seriously and for us the goal was to be truthful as possible with all our performances. >> you talk about the great cast and performances. you're acting with alfre woodard who is a legend. how was that? >> she is great.
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she shows up ready to do the thing and forces you to meet her there. >> don't like her right away. >> i love her. we've been friends for years. when printed her the script and got her to read it, i was hoping she would do it. i didn't see anybody else doing it in my mind. she read and it and she fell in love to it. i felt she and i would be able to play and i'd be able to grow as an actor playing opposite of her. >> what was the hardest moment for you in this film? >> honestly producing the film. >> not the acting. >> i produced this film. it took many years. i've been fortunate enough in between when he first started making this film, i believe it was 2011 and now i've produced other films and they completed and sold. this one took many years. it was like part of me. it was my passion piece. it was our passion piece. i say it was marriage between ben and myself and this movie was the baby. it was hard. >> beautiful baby.
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>> beautiful story. it's not a true story but rings very true. thank you so much. >> thank you. up next when republican presidential dreams run into financial reality things get awkward. can a business have a mind? a subconscious. a knack for predicting the future. reflexes faster than the speed of thought. can a business have a spirit? can a business have a soul? can a business be...alive? some questions can't wait until morning. so i'm one of many nurses at cigna with answers anytime, day or night. i'm lauren, and i've got your back. you are looking at two airplane fuel gauges. can you spot the difference? no? you can't see that?
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this is awkward. i give you louisiana governor bobby jindal. okay maybe not as awkward as that was but awkward nonetheless. he's a conservative. he's a conservative who wants to run for president. naturally he's done what all true conservatives do when they want to run for president and pledged his feelty to grover
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norquist. this pledge requires never never raise taxes. his fantasy ran into a budget deficit reality. when you cut taxes you need money. he set aside his pledge bit the bullet and raised taxes to get the budget back into balance for the good of his state. what's that? he didn't do anything like that. he's running for president after all, people. what to do in the deep cut that would have been required to get things back in balance were so draconian that universities were looking at mass layoffs and department closures which is no good for a presidential contender. he worked with in order norquist to come up with a complicated scheme that could raise revenue but wouldn't be classified as
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tax hike. it was this dishonest scheme that allowed his budget to pass yesterday at the last possible moment. here is how one describes it. it's an embarrassing bill to vote for. another republican compared voting for this budget to taking castor oil. bobby is even less popular that the much hated president obama. obama runs his own tax policy. jindal can take some comfort in the fact that his woes are far from unique among gop governors. in kansas republican governor sam brown backs self-proclaimed real live experiment in anti-tax has created a full on crisis for kansans. they failed to come to an agreement on how to close the state's $765 million deficit. chris christie's got his hands full in new jersey where he's only been able to balance the budget by skipping pension
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payments that he's required by law to make. the state has had its credit downgraded nine times. in wisconsin governor scott walker still in negotiations there are the legislate clurure in wisconsin. he's proposed closing that gap with an austerity budget that includes cuts to the state's education budget. even texas economic is looking a lot less miraculous these days. we can look at the hard right economic experiments and say they were failures. this is not partisan analysis but an undeaniable fact when you look at the results. racial humidities would adjust accordingly but there's no room for facts or reality or adjustment when you have an ideology to follow. good luck with that in 2016. if you think it's awkward for jindal now, wait until he
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explains he wants to try out the policies on the entire country. that does it for "the cycle." have a great weekend. now with alex wagner starts now. democrats secured a defeat for president obama. hillary clinton is asking america to allow her to reintroduce herself. it's friday june 12th. this is "now." hillary has been in bubble wrap for the past three months. >> i'm back! >> they want to reintroduce her as hillary rodham. >> the speech will be very