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accordingly. and when she decides this is not a coronation, it's a real race i think she'll respond appropriately. >> harold cook mercedes schlapp great to have you both. that's "the ed show." nation "politicsnation" with reverend al sharpton starts right now. >> tonight on "politicsnation," donald trump is already a headache for the gop. what's he saying today about the rapist comment? and what the party is not saying. where are the killers? the search is expanding and investigators are asking the public for help. we're live at the prison. and a historic ceremony. president obama formally welcomes new attorney general loretta lynch today. we look at her vision on the fight for justice going forward.
welcome to "politicsnation." we start tonight with competing visions for america. almost every one running for president is talking about fairness, increasing opportunity, getting more people in the middle class. the big difference what do they plan to do about it? today hillary clinton said she wanted to build on president obama's work. >> when everybody does his or her part then america gets ahead. that's what i was raised to believe. >> you see corporations making record profits. you see ceos making record pay, but your paychecks have barely budged. we've got to make it our national commitment that we're going to do everything we can to create good jobs that will help people get into and as you point out, stay in the middle class. >> good jobs equal pay, all
kinds of specifics there. and i say it because i've been one to raise questions to all the candidates including mrs. clinton about how do we get there, what are the steps. even the imf, the imf, had a study done on income inequality and the study said inequality is hurting growth and calls for wealth redistribution. defining challenge of our time. this is the imf saying this. it is clear that this is not some left-wing talking point. this is the reality now. we've been able to get the world to understand that and particularly it is the center of the national discussion. hillary clinton's policy to fight inequality is this. she says tax credit for hiring apprentices. higher minimum wage.
paid sick leave. free community college. very specific things that many of us have been saying a long time. but it's great to see a major presidential candidate, the presumptive democratic nominee say this. jeb bush, what do you say on fairness? >> your stuck in poverty, or you're stuck in a sense that you know your children are not going to have as much opportunity as you have it's in your heart, you feel this then you can't dream big dreams, you're not going to be able to live the kind of life that we want everybody to live. so the challenge isn't so much a political one. it's to be on the side of people that want a better life. the one thing that barack obama and hillary clinton and their philosophy have proven is that the progressive agenda run amuck has failed. >> it's clear there's no specific agenda coming from jeb bush and he implicitly says
people are stuck based on some parenting, or based on some other element, never really saying the structural inequality is part of, if not the major part, of the problem of how we've gotten where we are. we cannot solve a problem with a bad diagnosis. you must deal with structural inequality. there are many families that are stuck, that are wholesome families, that do what is considered the appropriate thing to do. they're still stuck, because if we have a system a tax code and other forms of economic manipulation, that will stick you, no matter what the rest of your makeup in terms of family is. let me bring on our guests jonathan capehart and heather mcgee, thank you for being here.
>> thank you. >> what is your view of both what mrs. clinton and what all of the republicans are saying specifically the rhetoric of fairness, the rhetoric of inequality is finally there, but the specifics. now we're getting down to the steps they would take to close the gaps. >> right. i think it's important to remember that the middle class didn't just create itself in america. it was the result of massive public investments to make college affordable massive infrastructure investments, the home mortgage deduction, all of that. now there's an opportunity right now to address inequality by reinventing that same kind of investment, but for the 21st vent century and looking at equity. the mortgage boom from the 1950s and 1960s excluded african americans and latinos. it's time to reignite the engine of prosperity for the middle class, give workers the right to form a union on the job.
the conservatives are stuck right now because they know they have to talk about inequality, but their prippings for addressing it are what has created this record of inequality, which is tax-cutting, making it easy for korpping corporations to exploit their workers. >> isn't it a fact there's an unequal discussion about inequality, because they talk about cutting government help. like the government didn't help the wealthy get wealthy and the middle class become middle class. these were structural decisions. >> yes. you have some people within the republican party who are talking about income inequality and coming at it from a republican/conservative point of view. congressman paul ryan has talked about it. i'm sure governor jeb bush will talk about it but those are the only two names that come to mind right now. but, you know think about one of the things that the
republicans all -- >> the only two that come to mind. you don't think donald "$9 billion" trump could talk about it. >> i guess he could. but he's not. the one thing they all talk about is repealing the affordable care act, repealing, gutting, maybe replacing obamacare. one of the reasons why president obama pushed so hard for the affordable care act, they got in there and said the one thing that was holding the economy back that would hold back american workers was health insecurity, the inability of the american worker to get health insurance and therefore get out of jobs that they don't want to be in that were low-paying, but also the rising cost ofhealth care that was weighing down the books of business. republicans are talking about doing away with that. that's going to impact income inequality. >> it's a dramatic thing when you can't even afford to get sick or even think about a member of your family.
hillary clinton also really took aim at the gop and the gop congress and what they are not doing on fairness. listen to this. >> i see what's happening in the congress and i think they're just missing what's really important about the first five years of life. >> instead of putting early head start and food stamps at risk with reckless budget cuts the republicans should join with us in investing in our kids and our future. >> investing in our kids. and i know d mos has done a lot of work around this. isn't that a non-brainer to most people you would think that would be beyond debate? >> yes, and it is among voters. even republican voters want to invest in education.
people should have paid sick days. but at the top, they're about the fetus, about shaming single mothers. and not realizing people are co-parenting without getting married. that's just happening. it's only in america do we say, because of public policy decisions that that should sort of make you go into poverty. just because you have a child. and you may be co-habiting with the parent -- >> but they're talking about cutting head start, cutting funds that would help young people at young, important ages that senator, ambassador presidential candidate clinton referred to. >> yes because they don't view it as important. they don't see it as being one of the parts of the building plox ofblocks of the country, of encouraging and growing the middle and class and the future foundation for the country. these are folks who are always
constantly talking about worrying about future generations and the country they're going to leave their children and grandchildren. and that only goes up to a certain point. it never includes head start, it never includes those programs and policies that help keep those -- >> or early education. >> early education, continuing education, it never includes those policies that help families stay together and help them climb the rungs on the ladder of opportunity, that allows people -- the american people, to be as aspirational as they are. nge i want to get back to something you said heather. i think i said ambassador. i meant secretary clinton. she was not an ambassador. but the american public wants this. when you look at recent polls, it shows, 66% say wealth should be more evenly distributed. 57% say government should do more to address the wealth gap. 50% favor limiting top
executives' pay. the american public is there. the candidates don't reflect the populace. >> and that's because there's as much inequality in the democracy as there is in the economy. the people who are writing the rules, who are deciding who gets to run for office the people who both of these people are spending all of their time with raising money, are folks where those polling numbers about redistributing wealth are very different. we've done a lot of research about this. that's why it's important that secretary clinton says we need to reform our campaign finance system. >> i think whoever becomes the next president should become the next president based on the policies they advocate that reflect the desire of the american people clearly as polls are indicating. >> well, yes, they should. but we're about to see a tsunami of cash flood this presidential
election in ways that we've never seen before. because of super pakcs and the special interest groups. >> and the supreme court decision. >> right. that have nothing to do with what the american people want. background checks for gun purchases for instance, even after the slaughter of those children in newtown, connecticut, you still couldn't get background checks passed. because the nra was so powerful even though an overwhelming majority of the american people favored it. >> going to have to leave it there. >> that's the situation that we have now. >> very, very vital conversation vital to where we're going in this country in this election. jonathan capehart, heather mcgee thank you both for your time tonight. >> thank you. coming up, we're following breaking news. where are the escaped killers? tonight the search is widening and officials are asking the
public for help. also donald trump is in new hampshire tonight, and he's already making the gop squirm. his response to the rapist comment ahead. and president obama formally welcomes attorney general loretta lynch, praising her as tough but fair. what will she do on civil rights voting policing and criminal justice reform? >> today the american people can have no greater advocate for their right to equality under the law, no greater partner in securing justice for all, than our attorney general, loretta lynch. [ applause ]
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tonight, the trail has gone cold. >> there is no hard evidence that they are outside the area. that being said you cannot rule that out. but we're going under the -- what i think is the logical belief, they can be anywhere. we're concentrating our efforts not only in this vicinity but throughout the nation and beyond. >> they can be anywhere. maybe even in a different country. today roadblocks and checkpoints in the area of the prison are coming down. and the search for these two men is widening with officials asking the public for help. officials putting out this picture, showing what the two convicts may look like if they haven't shaved in 12 days. investigators today also interviewing the husband of joyce mitchell, the woman
accused of helping the men escape. tonight there are a lot of questions, including the biggest. where are the killers? joining me from outside the prison in new york is msnbc's adam reese. adam, what are officials saying? what can you tell us about where the killers might be? >> reporter: reverend they wished they knew. i can tell you they're expanding the perimeter beyond the 16 miles they had. they're redirecting resources. this was an area and a street that was heavily secure. there were many checkpoints but now they're shifting their focus. they're going to look at highways. they're going to look at the ferry that goes across lake sham plain. they'll look at trains that run through this area. they have 1400 tips that they're still going through. they have 600 searchers, but they need that one solid lead that they don't have just yet. reverend? >> what can you tell us about
joyce mitchell's husband who met with investigators today? >> reporter: he met with them for about two hours at the new york state police barracks. his attorney says he's shell shocked, not standing by his wife, not supporting her. he believes she was behind the alleged plot to kill him. reverend? >> so he's not standing by his wife, and he's suggesting through his attorney she may have been involved in the plot to even kill him? >> reporter: he doesn't know about that. that is what has been suggested by sources that have told nbc news. they've also told us he has no prior knowledge of the escape. >> all right, we're going to leave it there. adam reese, thank you for your reporting tonight. right now, i want to bring in matthew fog, retired chief deputy u.s. marshall. thank you for being here. matthew, the trail has gone cold.
what are investigators doing right now to find these men? >> well this is an example where you could really say there's a failure to communicate here especially when it comes down to the woman who helped them to get out, supplied the tools to get them out of there. clearly what the investigators are doing now, they're just trying to follow any lead that comes in right now. you have the husband and the wife saying two different things. we know she supplied them the material to get out of there. right now, they're just trying their best to see if they can pick up any lead from anyone. but this is a situation that has clearly now has widened out of control to the point that we're now, like you said, they could be anywhere. and they're trapping phone lines. they're doing all of the things that we do when we track these people down. >> how do they even get around without money or resources? >> one of the things that i've said from the beginning. there's two things i believe has happened here. they've had help from the outside.
there's no doubt in my mind about that. what i believe, they're either somewhere in a clandestine, obscure location, where they knew they would have to stay there with food and water for at least 30 days or more or they had a get-away vehicle waiting for them on the outside. they got in that vehicle and they've gone across the border, most likely to canada. that's what i would think where they might have gone. >> now, these photos they put out, saying what they would look like if they hadn't shaved in 12 days, how do the investigators do that? >> they have a composite, and they get an idea of what they think might look like. i think they might have wigs. one particular fugitive that i tracked out of that prison in the clinton area when that guy, when we finally caught him, when he escaped, he escaped out of first clinton and then mci, but he had wigs and all that type of
stuff. so i would think they're trying to change their appearance if they are somewhere mixing in with the public. >> now, you don't rule out that they could still be possibly hunkered down in some obscure place near the prison? >> no i don't rule that out. absolutely not. if they're somewhere where they don't have to leave, they could just stay right there, clearly they've had this place checked out. they've been told, when you get to this location you hunker down, you don't do anything. you stay right there until we tell you to move. and if it means 30 or 40 days you got food you got water. you got everything you need. and it could be somebody going in and out of the place. i don't know if the police can look in every single home and every single location. so it's a lot of different ways they could be somewhere hunkered down. if they didn't take that option they're clearly out of the area. >> matthew fog, thank you for
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likely get the trump "say anything" approach, like he did last night in iowa. >> politicians they're killing this country. they're killing it. >> i watched jeb bush yesterday. he can't even put on a tie and jacket, he's running for president. >> women, women, i'm a woman, i'm going to be the youngest woman in the white house. and i'm not going to have white hair. i'm going to dye my hair blonde. she's going crazy. >> rubio was really weak on immigration, and by the way, i have better hair than he does believe me. and it is my hair. >> in mexico you can take the cars and trucks and we can have the illegals drive them right through the border into our country, it's true. >> isis is rich. what we should do right now is go blast the hell out of that. >> nobody thinks of me as the ultimate wasp, but i am.
>> but one day in, he's already creating a headache for the gop with controversial comments on mexican immigrants. he was asked about it today by misnbc msnbc's kasie hunt. >> in your speech today, you said that some rapists are coming across the border with mexico. >> absolutely. >> what did you mean by that? >> they're sending us peepople, not their finest people. and it's people other than from mexico. we have rapists, killers, drug dealers. it's common sense. do you think they're going to send us their best people and their finest people? the answer is no. >> so he's basically defending the comment. and today, no real denouncement from party leaders, at a time when america is looking for economic fairness and social equality here comes donald trump. we are all waiting to see what happens next.
let's talk to my friends jimmy williams and jason johnson. jason, i said last night trump will be a factor. how bad is this for the party, or do you think it's a good thing? >> it's horrible for the republican party. it's great for comedians. i mean look the problem -- and this is a piece i've got coming out on nbc tomorrow -- it degrades the entire process, when you have a carnival barker on stage that everyone knows doesn't really want the job, it makes everyone else in the room look silly because they have to answer for his behavior or justify his existence on the same stage. this is bad news for the republican party but they can't get rid of him because he's got too much money and too much name recognition. >> and those are live pictures right now of donald trump in the state -- major primary state of new hampshire. but, jimmy, it's bad for the
party, jason says, but good for comedians. but i also think it could be good for jeb bush. because right now, this race is starting to be seen as jeb bush against donald trump. he's taken all the air out of the room for the other opponents. and they've either got to act more bizarre or do something that will grab attention to even be noticed. or bush can just stand back and act presidential and like the adult in the room and just beat who is perceived as clownish. >> yeah. jason makes a good point, which is, whatever he does it's all for the benefit of donald trump. i think that donald trump isn't running against hillary clinton or jeb bush. i think donald trump is running against everyone. and that sort of populism theme, if you will that plays well and it plays well with a large swath of american society. but here's the problem. no one actually thinks donald
trump can be president, ever will be president. secondly i think there's something happening here that donald trump doesn't even realize, and that is by pumping himself up over and over and over again, he leaves -- the party has to follow him. he's running as a republican. no one should ever forget, donald trump, a four-time bankruptee in the state of new york is running for president as a republican. so the rnc who is not allowed to pick a candidate by the way, has to defend him. if they can't defend him like shaun spicer wasn't able to do earlier, then that's a problem for the rnc and the republican party. his ideas are out of the mainstream of even republican voters. and that's the case they have to either tamp him down not let him in debates, or disassociate from him. if they do he still wins on the national debate stage. >> you know i noticed a sign in this crowd in new hampshire saying mexicans are people not criminals. you know trump's controversial
comments on mexican immigrants is making headlines. the mexican government is lashing out today, calling trump's ideas, quote, absurd. but the rnc's official response has been luke warm at best. saying trump's comments are not helpful. and a washington post editorial says this comment will keep the gop out of the white house. now, this is a demographic republicans need. yet we didn't really hear the outrage from party leaders. how will that play out jason? >> well, see this is why i disagree rev. trump actually hurt jeb bush, because this is jeb bush's baby constituency. jeb bush, is i'm the republican cannot who can get 45% of the latino vote. he can't let trump be on the same stage as him and keep making these comments without engaging donald trump. when you wrestle with a pig -- >> unless he confronts him, unless he takes him on.
>> exactly. you wrestle with a pig, you both get muddy. i think this ends up helping scott walker, because when jeb and trump are fighting with each other, scott walker can say, these guys can fight. i've been a functional governor. so i think this could harm jeb bush long-term, because he's going to have to engage trump in a way that i think other candidates can probably avoid. >> according to how he plays it. you know jeb bush responded to his new rival, mr. trump on fox last night. watch this jimmy. >> -- took you on in a speech today about common core and immigration. i want to ask you -- >> sorry. [ laughter ] >> i shouldn't have done that. >> and donald trump talked to morning joe in an interview airing tomorrow. here's a clip of him responding. >> i think that bush is a nice man. i call him he's a man that doesn't want to be doing what he's doing. i call him the reluctant warrior. and warrior is probably not a
good word. but i think bush is an unhappy person. i don't think he has any energy and i don't see how he can win. in addition to that, he's in favor of common core, and he's weak on immigration. >> how will this play out for jeb, jimmy? i mean trump is polling pretty well. >> well, i mean look he's got a poll in the top ten, if you will, in order to get on the debate stages. i hate to say this but donald trump is on to something, and that is that bush's immigration stance with the general electorate would play pretty well, does not play well with the republican extremists the base voters. same thing with common core. i hope that our colleague joe scarborough has asked him what common core is. because i'm pretty sure he couldn't tell you. what is relevant is whether or
not he makes it through. he's playing like all get out that he can do well in south carolina where bushes are known to do well. so if he can get through the early states and not come in third, fourth or fifth, then he's still a viable candidate purely because of the money he's raised. jeb bush announced two days ago. jeb bush doesn't have a single staffer on the ground in south carolina as we speak. that does not bode well for him. >> yeah, well, the full interview, by the way, with donald trump, is on "morning joe" tomorrow morning. jimmy williams and jason johnson, thank you both for your time. >> thanks rev. coming up next president obama praising new attorney general loretta lynch. and why she says the justice department is the conscience of this nation. plus they're back. why can't house republicans just let the death panel myth die? and first lady michelle
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with and those she serves. >> president obama today praising attorney general loretta lynch and the work she's already doing on the job. 52 days after she was sworn in the president spoke at a formal ceremony marking her takeover. he shearedared a funny story about her parents, a baptist minister and a teacher from north carolina. >> apparently when she applied to work at the u.s. attorney's office and an fbi agent went to their house to conduct a routine background check, her parents pulled out a bunch of scrap books of loretta's accomplishments. made the agent the look through them. [ laughter ] >> i'm sure loretta was mortified. and here in third grade, she got the prize, and here's one of her
old poems. and i have this picture of the fbi agents sitting there, yes, ma'am. >> when lynch took the stage, she talked about the vital role the justice department plays in our society. >> mr. president, thank you for your faith in asking me to lead the department that is the conscience of this nation, that represents more than any other, the fundamental promise of america, of equal justice under the law. thank you, sir. >> to give voice to those fighting oppression. to give home to those seeking the redress of wrongs, to give meaning to the cry of "never again" and to protect those who call us on in the still small hours of night when they are cold and frightened. >> i was honored to be one of the guests at the ceremony today. i was particularly moved that loretta lynch, the new attorney
general was sworn in with her hand on the bible of frederick douglas, the great abolitionist and former slave. i also couldn't help but sit and think about how many days it took to finally get the senate to vote and give their confirmation to her approval. joining me now is one who also advocated strongly for them to just come with a vote. sirius xm radio host joe madison. joe, finally she was sworn in, 52 days ago today the installation ceremony and she was very specific on areas of concern and priority for her as attorney general. >> and she hit the ground running. i think that's what really, it sits my thoughts about her. she hit the ground running. look what she did immediately when baltimore exploded.
she immediately went into baltimore -- >> within hours. >> -- within hours. and not just talking to the people of baltimore, but even to the police and the other officials. but here's the thing that really strikes me as kind of sad. look at the amount of time that the senate wasted. she could have hit the ground months earlier, and there could have been issues that this woman, this individual this law enforcement officer, could have addressed six, seven months or so while she was waiting for confirmation, over nothing but pure political football. >> and it was a historic moment. i sat there looking with other heads of civil rights organizations, certainly there's history. but your point look at what she's already done. she's investigating the baltimore police department. she's overseeing the settlement with the cleveland police department. she announced the indictments
against fifa soccer league officials. and the fbi and federal prosecutors have moved against several terror suspects all of this in 52 days. imagine what she could have done had she been confirmed earlier in the year since the nomination was hanging since the end of last year. >> and reverend sharpton the other thing to keep in mind it's not so much what she's done, as you delineated but you haven't heard a peep from any opposition. you know why? because she's doing the right thing. she's doing a good job. no one in these 50-plus days has complained about a single decision that she's made. not one. and think about all these candidates that are running now for the republican nomination. not one of them has mentioned her name in opposition to anything she's done. >> now there was applause when the president mentioned now
former attorney general eric holder. in fact, his wife dr. malone was this. how do you compare attorney general lynch to eric holder? >> i don't think it's fair to compare them. i think that they each are their own person. they each -- if any comparison they're each very bright brilliant, capable individuals. eric holder has made his mark and he has created his own footprint. she has to now create her own footprint. she's not there to fill his shoes. she's there to make her own path. so i would just simply draw the comparison as they both were excellent choices. both are right for the time. >> and i think the only comparison that i am comfortable with is both of them have faced, in my opinion, undue criticism and undue scrutiny largely because of a partisan fight and a bias against the sitting president that appointed them.
>> man, you are 100% right. that's why when donald trump announced his candidacy, you would think that president obama was running for a third term. because that's all he talked about. >> well, he threw a couple of jabs at jeb, but he majored in attacking president obama. the sad part is he does it with more bombast. but all of the republican candidates are doing it in non-specific kind of irrational ways and i don't think it speaks well to the politics that we are really needing to deal with today. >> and she's a brilliant person. you know her better than i think most people on television. >> she was the prosecutor in brooklyn. i have dealt with cases with her that she agreed and disagreed. but she's a diligent fair, hard-working person. i can say that. joe madison, thank you for your time tonight. >> always thank you, reverend.
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>> obamacare is fundamentally broken. americans can't afford it and so the house will take actions this week on solutions that will lower costs and expand access to quality health care. >> one of those so-called solutions is voting this week to repeal the independent payment advisory board. this board was created by the health care law to come up with medicare savings. that's it. but our friends on the right know it by another name. >> of course there are death panels. >> death panels this is how they're going to manifest themselves. >> the nationalization of health care that is going to absolutely kill senior citizens. put them on lists and force them to die early. >> remember the death panels we spent so much time talking about, well, guess what, the death panels are back. >> we should not have a government program that
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>> we close tonight with a disturbing headline from "the washington post." quote, the average american woman now weighs as much as the average 1960s man. it's alarming. the stats show that in 1960 the average woman weighed 130 pounds. now, it's 166 pounds. men have gotten a lot heavier too. they've gone from an average of 166 pounds to 195 pounds. this is a public health crisis. we see the effect with diabetes and heart disease. and in the cost of health care. we must act to fix it. that's why the obama administration is moving to ban transfats within three years. it's also why first lady michelle obama has been fighting for healthier lunches in our schools. she took that message with her
on her overseas trip to italy today. teaming up with celebrity chefs and sports stars to talk about the importance of a healthy diet. >> one of the things that we learned in the united states is that it takes everybody coming on board to help with this issue. it takes everybody stepping up. we all have to do our part. and kids like you, you guys have to do your part. you got to eat your vegetables. yeah sorry about that. got to have some vegetables. and it helps if you know where your food comes from. >> america needs to shape up, and we need to make sure that healthy food options are available to everyone including people in poor and underserved communities. i recently in the last three or four years have taken my health much more seriously, and my diet. lost over 170 pounds. i feel better, i am better i
look healthier, feel healthier, think healthier, more energy. not because of any cosmetic reason. but because you can't have self-esteem if you don't really take care of yourself and your health. and the reflection of it by what you take in measures your self-esteem. that you for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. >> the term bust-up, let's play "hardball." ♪ ♪ >> good evening, i'm chris matthews in washington. but the big action politically tonight is still centered in new york where domd trump has dropped a high mega ton bomb on the republican party's 2016 chances. the fall-out potential is frightening. what if this lo