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it's been a long day of grief and developments the suspected gunmen who killed 9 people at a historic black church in charleston south carolina is in police custody. dylann roof was arrested earlier today. he was roughly 245 miles north of charleston. he was cooperative during the traffic stop they believe he acted on his own. roof has already made his first appearance in court. dylann was previously arrested in south carolina on drug and trespassing charges. nicki haley reacted to the shooting. >> we woke up today and the heart and soul of south carolina
was broken and so we have some grieving to do, and we have some pain we have to go through. parents are having to explain to their kid zs how they can go to church and feel safe. that's not something we ever thought we would have to deal with. having said that we are a strong and faithful state. >> the details of last night's shooting are chilling. >> the gunman went to the emmanuel a.m.e. church and sat among the worshippers during a wednesday night bible study. after an hour he opened fire on the gathering, the charleston coroner's office released the names of the nine victims, among the dead was the church's pastor. he was also a south carolina state senator and a rising star in south carolina politics a real community leader.
he knew president obama -- knew people at the bible study. she spoke to reporters and described the scene the suspect came to the church and asked for the pastor they showed him where the pastor was, he said next to my cousin for the -- throughout the entire bible study. at the conclusion of the bible study, they started hearing loud noises ringing out. and he had already wounded the suspect, had already wounded a couple individuals, including mys could enmy cousin. i spoke with one of the survivors, and she said that he had reloaded five different times. her son was trying to talk him
out of doing the act of killing people. he said i have to do it you rape our women and you're taking over our country. you have to go. south carolina state legislature paid their respects to reverend pickney today. >> we came to honor one as i mentioned in my earlier prayer who has been such a fond presence in the chamber. i will miss that booming voice coming from one of the gentlest men i've ever known in my life. a black cloth was placed over his desk inned state senate
federal, state and local officials are working in this case the department of justice is opening a hate crimes investigation investigation. craig, great to have you with us tonight. this has been a gut-wrenching day for everyone across this country. as we see another shooting unfold and we go through the anguish of all of this again. what can you tell us about the apprehension of the suspect. this was quite -- and an intense manhunt and certainly a coordination of effort. what happened? >>. >> it was intense. it was also very quick, you think about the fact that the shooting happened a half block from where i'm standing right now. the 21-year-old was in custody shortly after 11:00 a.m. this morning, he was taken into custody in shelbey, north carolina.
shelbey is about 40 45 miles east of charlotte, about 40 hours from where i am right now. he was in -- driving a hyundai, he did not resist arrest. and he was pulled over because the officer said there was something strange about the car, no chase or no shootout or anything like that. he waived extradition which means he will be returning to charleston. he also waived counsel as well at this point. what -- the question right now, how long is it going to take for him to come back to charleston. we don't know if he's going to be spending the night in shelbey, or whether he's going to be returning tonight. investigators told me they have conducted what's called an initial interview. they asked some of the obvious questions, they have not spent the kind of time they would like to spend with them. that's happening in shelbey, north carolina let's go to column bee ya south carolina
right now the capitolal city. investigators are conducting another search of sorts, this is where the 21-year-old suspect lived. it is unclear whether investigators are looking at his parents house or just his dads house, but that house has been roped off, there's crime scene tape around that home. investigators tell me they are combing through it for any evidence, any signs, any indication as to why someone would commit such a heinous crime. they're also, while they believe he acted alone, they're looking at specifically whether he had spent time in certain chat rooms on message boards whether he was part of an underground hate community. these are all of the things that investigators are looking at right now as they try to piece some sort of motive
together. >> craig melvin reporting tonight from charleston south carolina.
let's turn now to tom davis. senator davis, good to have you with us tonight. you knew reverend pinckney very well. >> i did know him very well. i've known him for 14 years. he was new to the senate, and then i was elected to the senate in 2009. he's been a colleague of mine for the past several years. we represent portions of jasper county and pugh forward county. we worked together closely on a number of matters, one of which would be the development of a new ocean terminal in jasper county. we worked together on that for several years, most recently just a month or so ago in the wake of another tragedy, i worked with him in regard to passing a body camera bill in south carolina. you'll recall that walter scott was shot eight times by a
law enforcement officer in the back. senator pinckney took the well
of the senate and in a way only he can, brought meaning and sense to what everybody was talking about in the chamber. we were in the christians season of easter and about how thomas did not believe that jesus had risen from the dead until he put his hand in jesus' side. when we heard that walter scott had been gunned down with six, seven, eight shots in the back and left to lie on the ground as if he were game he then said many of us did not believe that until we saw the picture and then when we saw the picture we also said we believe. and he went ahead and made that passionate speech and got that bill moving. while always remember and what i said today in the chamber of the senate, just how he was able to rise above the raw emotion of
the time the hurt the pain the anger, refocused our attention and he ended what he said by saying this, we pray for the family of walter scott. but we also pray for the family of the law enforcement officer that shot him down because our savior teaches us to forgive and love our enemy. that's the kind of person that he was. he had a booming voice and a gentle heart. he had a love of people. and politicians sometimes are able to feign that they like people, they pretend or act -- very few politicians genuinely, truly love and enjoy people. clementa pinckney was one of those. he cared about you. he looked you in the eye, and you knew that he was thinking about you and cared about what
you had to say. he's going to be tremendously missed in the senate today. to a person in that senate it shocked us to the core. listening to the tributes that were given to him, all together fitting. capped off by a unanimous resolution in the senate to posthumously have his portrait done and hung in the chamber of the senate so that senators forever more can look upon that gentle gentle, decent man and as he urged us to do in the wake of walter scott's shooting take this moment of grief and tragedy, find something good out of it and make ourselves better, i think that's going to be our challenges in the days ahead to make sure that senator pinckney's message resonates with us that we dig down and seek to do things better. that we do things to better the lives of all south carolinans what he used to say to me and i
came into the senate and i was a freshman in 2009 i had a good set of beliefs as we all do. in order to be a good senator, you have to have your convictions, and you have to have your beliefs. what you also have to do it's vital that you do it understand somebody else's point of view understand they represent 103,000 people just like you do they have beliefs and values that are a product of their experiences in their life that are every bit as legitimate as yours. that to be a legislator is not to have a core governing philosophy, you have to have that but have you to have the ability to listen to others and put yourself in somebody else's shoes. that's a lessen i want to take away from this. as many people in the senate said today, we're not going to let his death be in vein and we're going to endeavor going-forward to continue pushing for racial justice, for criminal justice, for the things
he was passionate about, we have work to do. everybody -- society, we're an imperfect society. and we can't forgive that fact. we can't forget that a lot of individuals are less advantaged than us they look at the world through different eyes. what he said in the wake of walter scott being shot let us have new eyes to see, so that we might understand. let us keep open minds, i was moved by that and in fact right after he gave that speech i ran upstairs and asked my secretary to get that clip off tv have that clip immediately posted online and sent out to all my constituents and i went home to my wife i said i want you to watch this seven minute clip of this man speaking because this is what a south carolina senator should be. this is a south carolinan standing there in a moment of
grief, uplifting our hearts and tieing it to scripture, i just said to my wife at that inpot in time i just pray i'm able to communicate in that way i'm able to take things that are out there. and to persuade people up. it's a tremendous loss for our senate. >> we appreciate your heartfelt testimony tonight. thank you so much for joining us tonight. the country needed to hear what you just said. joining me now is jim carvin awe, an msnbc law enforcement analyst. jim, what are the next steps in this investigation how is this all going to unfold. obviously trying to come to some understanding as to why this happened. what do we know about the suspect. >> he has his motive all over
his clothes, saying it to the survivors, he's proud of it his motive is the most baseless hate hate. it's obvious what he wants to do do. is that the murder weapon? i'd say likely it is. he probably kept it. this case is getting tighter and tighter as they search his house, his computer is going to be covered up with the hate websites, he's inspired by all this talk and he's probably googled and searched the a.m.e. church too, this guy was from columbia it's a couple hour drive to charleston. he went to the church and asked for the pastor specifically. so you know it harkins back to me to dynamite chambliss back in
the '60s, this guy targeted he probably talked about it whether or not he has co-conspirators, i'm not saying that's the case. he's inspired by the hate movement. >> jim carvin awe, thanks for your time tonight. president obama's powerful words in the wake of the charleston south carolina shooting will bring you his remarks and reaction ahead. and later, the house has passed a stand alone fast track bill and it's headed to the senate the house's latest move could leave workers without a safety net. ously? smash it with jublia! jublia is a prescription medicine proven to treat toenail fungus. use jublia as instructed by your doctor. look at the footwork! most common side effects include ingrown toenail, application site redness, itching, swelling burning or stinging, blisters, and pain. smash it! make the call and ask your doctor if jublia is right for you.
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we're back on the ed show. president obama addressed the horrific events in south carolina earlier today. less than 24 hours after the tragic event, the president used his platform to address the epidemic of gun violence in this country. here's the president's statement in its entirety. >> good afternoon, everybody. this morning i spoke with and vice president biden spoke with joe riley and other members of charleston to express our deep sorrow over the senseless murders that took place last night. michelle and i know several members of emmanuel a.m.e. church we knew their pastor who along with eight others gathered in prayer and fellowship and were murdered last night.
our prayers are with them and their families and their community. it doesn't say enough to convey the heartache and the sadness and the anger that we feel. any death of this sort is a tragedy. any shooting involving multiple victims is a tragedy. there's something particularly heartbreaking about a death happening in a place in which we seek solace we seek piece. this is a place of worship that
was founded by african-americans seeking liberty. this is a church that was burned to the ground because its worshippers worked to end slavery. there was a nonviolent movement some of our violent leaders spoke, and led marches from this church's steps. this is a sacred place in the history of charleston and the history of america. more of the bureau's best are on the way to join the investigation. the attorney general has announced plans for the fbi to open a hate crime investigation. the suspect is in custody, and i'll let the best of law
enforcement do its work to make sure that justice is served. until the investigation is complete, i'm not necessarily constrained in terms of talking about the details of the case i don't need to be constrained about the emotions that come with these tragedies. i've had to make statements like this too many times. we don't have all the facts, but we do know that once again innocent people were killed in part because someone who wanted to inflict harm had no trouble getting their hands on a gun. now is the time for mourning and for healing. but let's be clear. at some point we as a country will have to reckon with the fact that this type of mass violence does not happen in
other advanced countries. it doesn't happen in other places with this kind of frequency. it's in our power to do something about it. i say that recognizing the politics in this town foreclose a lot of those avenues right now. but it would be wrong for us not to agocknowledge it. and at some point it's going to be important for the american people to come to grips with it. and for us to be able to shift how we think about the issue of gun violence collectively. the fact that this took place in a black church obviously also raises questions about a dark
part of our history. this is not the first time that black churches have been attacked. and we know that hatred across races and faiths pose a threat to our democracy and appeals. the outpouring of unity, strength and love from all races, from all faiths from all places of worship skateindicates the degree to which those old vestiges of hatred can be overcome. that certainly was dr. king's hope just over 50 years ago when four little girls were killed in a black church. they lived meaningful lives and they died nobly they say to each
of us black and white alike, they must substitute courage for caution, we must be concerned not merely with who murdered them, but about the system the way of life the fill osphilosophy which produced the murders. their death says to us we must work compassionately and unrelentingly for the realization of the american dream. and if one will hold on he will discover that god walks with him. and god is able to lift you from the fatigue of despair to the buoyancy of hope and transform dark and desolate valleys into solid paths of inner peace. reverend pinckney and his congregation understood that spirit.
members of their own community they opened their doors to strangers who might enter a church in search of healing for redemption. mother emmanuel church have emerged before to give hope to generations of charles stonians and with our prayers and love and the boy yancey of hope it will rise again now in a place of peace thank you. >> president obama, his full statement at the white house today. after the break, i'll get reaction to the president's comments. i'll be join by joy reid and professor eric michael dyson. then my nutrition heart health mix is for you. it's a wholesome blend of peanuts, pecans and other delicious nuts specially mixed for people with hearts.
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you just heard the president ace comments in the wake of the tragedy in south carolina many other national figures are reacting to wednesday's shooting, at the emmanuel a.m.e. church hillary clinton who was campaigning yesterday in charleston expressed her condolences to the families of the victims and called for the incident to spark a national conversation. >> nine people women and men cut down at prayer. murdered in a house of god. it just broke my heart. that, of course is the last place we should ever see violence, we shouldn't see it anywhere. in order to make sense of it we have to be honest. we have to face hard truths about race violence guns and
division. >> how many innocent people in our country from little children, from movie theater attendees, how many people do we need to see cut down before we act. >> senator bernie sanders also commented on the horrific shooting in charleston south carolina he said the charleston church killings are a tragic reminder of the ugly stain of racism that still taints our nation. the senator said that in a statement. this senseless violence fills me with outrage, disgust and a deep, deep sadness. to be noted, senator sanders was scheduled to be in charleston south carolina for a campaign event sunday night, he's since cancelled that appearance. for more i'd like to bring in joy reid and also with us
tonight, professor michael eric dyson dyson. >> we heard from president obama and two other big politicians in this country. hillary clinton and bernie sanders. what is the conversation. this country just does not know how to dole with gun violence to make things any better. >> yeah, ed, and what's interesting is the framing of the three people you just discussed. it's a buy fur indicated conversation, where the president really led with this issue of gun control, hillary was more new answered and co mingled it directly with the issue of race these are two things that are happening at the same time i think what's interesting for both of these democrats as well as for bernie sanders, which side do you go at first? the idea of racial intolerance? do you go at the idea of the degradation of a place of
worship, a storied place of worship, and a place that is important as an icon to african-americans or do you go at the gun control route? i think you're seeing the democrats, particularly the president really sort of push the pedal on the gun control aspect of it i can tell you that out in the social media world, yes, this is a gun conversation, it's a race conversation too it will be interesting to see if we go further in that direction. >> i think the president showed tremendous leadership today, we have to talk about this. even it's -- a time of mourning and a time of healing as the president said were you surprised at how strong his comments were on gun violence? >> i was surprised and disappointed that the president obscured the obvious racial dimensions that begged relief and address, here is -- if you look at the descending order of greatness of new answer there,
bernie sanders talked about the ugly stain of racism, hillary clinton talked about race guns violence and division. president obama who by the way, martin luther king jr. talked about this and then he talked about hatred across the races. the question is, when will this president finally see that he doesn't have to run from his race or run from blackness which are obviously there, and tethered to the issue of gun control and violence in this country he must use his bully pull pet to ex-kwoer yacht those forces that are demonizing all americans. when a young man goes into a church and says i'm here to kill black people the president cannot pretend this is an issue of gun violence. if that man had a knife, he would have tried to kill the people with a knife. it doesn't matter the implement. although, it makes a big difference in terms of our gun control issues. it matters, the hatred in his heart to do away with these human beings.
not separate them. >> i think leadership is getting people to speak up. today was a day of tremendous emotion down in charles ston south carolina and through the the state and country. here is james clyburn speaking at today's prayer service. >> the people of ill will in our society make a much better use of time than the people of good will i'm here today, when you leave these hallowed halls and go back to your respected communities, wherever they may be please break your silence. speak up. >> your reaction? >> jim clyburn has a long history in the civil rights strugs el going back to when he was a young man. he lives in a state that has a
history of racial violence that is akin to states like mississippi and alabama, the state that launched the civil war, a state where the confederate flag flies over a monument on the capitol grounds. a lot of african-americans including the head of the naacp, noting that is the fact you have a governor who almost came to tears talking about these families, you could see her emotion was genuine at the same time the flag flies over the capital. >> i find that amazing, if this event doesn't change that, what will. >> look it is reprehensible that we have flying a statement of unadorned racism but, of course, a rejection of loyalty to the nation. the confederate flag celebrates those who want to secede from the nation.
true americans stay here figure out a way to move forward. this is where i embrace what president obama said today, we can move forward to address these issues we have to analyze the illness first before we can observe and offer a remedy. that's why it's important. if we take in aggregate what obama said we have the possibility of addressing the ill that is before us, and bringing a remedy to fore. if we rush too quickly to forgiveness, to heal to get over this, what are we getting over, what is the illness, and will it strike again. that's the harm we do in trying to engage in the united states of amnesia, it is time we reject our citizenship and that amnesia, and we stand up and tell the truth about what's going on in this country. >> great to have you both with us tonight. fast track gets a second
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obviously the south carolina shooting is 9 focal point of our coverage tonight here on msnbc and on the ed show but there is other news that we want to get to tonight. and we'll come back to the shooting in a moment the house took up trade promotion authority today. fast tract narrowly passed in a house vote on a stand alone bill. the bill was 218 to 208. president obama has the trade authority he wanted. fast track authority was not tied to trade adjustment assistance during today's vote. there's no guarantee workers am get help arch a bad trade deal. a taa is still a possibility. hopefully they'll be back here as soon as next week so we can move both of these to the
president. >> boehner wants others in congress to trust him. nancy pelosi isn't buying it. >> do you predict that tpa and taa will be passed by both houses? >> i can't predict that. i don't see a path for taa. >> republicans oppose help for workers, they believe it's welfare and will add to the deficit. president obama has said he will not sign a trade bill without trade adjustment assistance. a house democrat who met with president obama claims the president says he will sign fast track even without the workers aid program. democrats relying on boehner and mcconnell may be a long throw. the process now moves to the senate where the fate of trade is uncertain. a second vote on taa could happen next week. let's turn to rosa de lauro of
connecticut. >> what happened how disappointed are you that this unfolded the way it did today? >> this is what happened today is that the house threw a hail mary pass to the senate. there is no certainty a trade promotion authority, fast tract without trade adjustment assistance will pass. so it's fate is uncertain and there is a moment at this moment a path to yes on is this effort. we will fight another day. it's a narrow vote in the house of representatives. and all through gimmicks and
procedural ploys, et cetera i believe that those who supported a -- you know the fast track also maybe they don't understand what is at stake. that is this issue has always been about jobs and wages. with the evidence that what the current trade agreements have done to american workers, democrats stood strong today. >> you're confident that there's another day to fight, and this isn't a slam dunk yet for those that want this to go through? >> absolutely. and the fate of the fast track is very uncertain. >> i need to ask you about today's unbelievable horrific tragedy in south carolina. you come from a state of
connecticut where young children were gunned down in an elementary school and nothing really was done about gun violence on this country. the president came out and addressed it today and reminded the country that this doesn't happen in other countries with the frequency it does in america. what's your response to what's happened? >> our hearts are heavy. nine men and women lost their lives. you mentioned newtown and sandy hook where 20 innocence were slaughtered. six adults killed another place that is supposed to be safe. and our schools and our church s churches. and it is an issue of violence has got to be addressed, and whatever the causes bring one
to this we have to have an examination of why this is occurring. be serious in our resolve at a federal level, the kinds of legislation that can address this issue, while at the same time examining the cause, they will go together in order to prevent these kinds of efforts this horrific act to happen again. what we can't do is every time one happens, we have to focus on it it. we don't really focus on it. if the loss of life and families lives turned into turmoil. >> i appreciate your time tonight. thanks so much. >> still to come on the ed show. the charleston community mourns the loss of nine members at a black church. i'll speak with faith leaders about the community can rebound
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and we are back on the "ed show." officials have classified the massacre inside of one of the nation's oldest black churches as a hate crime. there are 19 known hate groups in the state of south carolina. at this hour it is unknown whether the suspect, dylann roof was part of a hate group. here's a clip of the late reverend clementa pinckney back in 2013. >> there are many people who say why would you as a preacher why would you as a pastor be involved in public life? i've already said it but i'll say it again. our calling is not just within the walls of the congregation, but we are part of the life and community in which our congregation resides. >> and finally tonight i'm joined by reverend michael mcbride, director of the pico
national network live free campaign and freddy haynes a fellow pastor at the friendship west baptist church. we've only got a couple of minutes left. so i just would like to remind our audience again that life is so fragile and this ugly event has reminded us of that again. you first, reverend mcbride. spiritually, what is the path forward for the community? >> well our condolences go out to emanuel and i think the forward has to be an act of responsibility. we must reclaim a prophetic tradition that gives us the right analysis that remind us that white supremacy and racial terror is not a stranger to our country or to our communities. and this must embolden us to move beyond platitudes beyond just isolated analysis of ongoing events but challenge us to go deeper into our resources
of faith and offer a hope and a pathway forward that is about action, that is about honesty, but that is also about telling the truth. and this has to be a part of any solution moving forward or we are just deluding ourselves. we're calling on congregations all across the country to preach, to pray and to act. we have resources. we're going to be meeting on wednesday evening next week to do tea chants and congregations. you can visit our sites for more information at the live for usa.org but this is what we must do if we're going to be successful. >> ref right-hand haynes-- reverend haynes? >> martin luther king said we're in the concerned who killed these girls but what killed these girls.
when we look at what killed these worshippers on last night, we won't have more of the who that continues to bring about such domestic racist terrorism that continues to affect and infect these yet to be united states of america. >> reverend michael mcbride, reverend freddy haynes i appreciate your time on "the ed show." this horrific shooting that has taken place down in charleston south carolina is another stark reminder that this free country still wrestles with gun violence and we have at this point no real solutions to how to curb what the president talked about, incidents like this happening on just too frequent of a basis as compared to other nations around the world. that is "the ed show." politics nation with reverend am
sharpton starts right now. >> welcome to "politics nation." i'm live in charleston south carolina where tonight our hearts are broken. right now this plane is on the tarmac in north carolina. it's about to fly dylann roof the 21-year-old suspected of killing nine people in charleston last night, to fly him back here to south carolina. the nine innocent people were praying at mother emmanuel one of the oldest churches in north carolina. among the victims, the pastor of mother emanuel, reverend clementa pinckney. just over two months ago i marched with