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be gone. our almond also be drying and dead. >> this farm, everything that's growing here everything is being sent to soup markets, another year like this it's done. >> yes, and all these people will not be here. we will have a silent spring in the central valley, because there will be no workers working in the field. >> we'll bring you that story and much more tomorrow as we continue our special week of all in america water wars right here live in california. that is "all in" this evening. "the rachel maddow show" starts now. one of california's finest products. good evening, rachel. >> chris, california water is kind of a bull's-eye for the maddow family. this is all maddow family collective watching this week. >> i'm microprogramming to the maddow family. >> you have maxed out the demo. thanks to you at home for joining us. happy monday.
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so milo bloom is 10 years old. he's a 10-year-old newspaper reporter. even though he's only 10 years old, he's sort of world weary, very wise. steve dallas is the amoral lawyer wearing sunglasses and smoking a cigarette. opus is a penguin. he's oliver wendell jones, a computer genius. this honestly got me through a good portion of my cynical teenage years. you see him dressed up like a pirate here? when he was computer hacking, he would dress up as a pirate. here is one where he was trying to hack into nbc news. enter nbc news.
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beep password incorrect. then he gets prompted for the password again, then he enters dan rather is a turnip. beep approved. he's like yeah the dude is hot. gets into nbc news. as a result of the time he tried to end the cold war by hacking into a russian newspaper. he tached this scheme where he would hack in and change the headline on the front page so it would say, gorbachev urges disarmament, total, unilateral. that was going to be the front page. milo bloom says to his friend the hacker, are you sure about the translation now that you have on the front page are you sure about the translation? oliver says yeah sure i'm sure. i'm pretty sure. and then the point of view changes to moscow where some burly, fur-hatted russians are reading that newspaper, what it
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translates to is gorbachev sends tractors, turn ups, buttocks. the word turnip is always funny. bloom county was always funny. but bloom county has been gone for 25 years. until today. it just came back. today, the pulitzer prize winner of bloom county posted this picture of himself on facebook showing himself working. see what it says there? bloom county 2015 working on a new bloom county strip. he chose opus the penguin and the news strip shows opus waking up after a 24-year nap and ends with a profane joke i cannot show you on television about the physical nature of penguin puberty. in the comments that were put on his facebook post when he announced that he was back he
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basically confesses on his facebook page that the reason he's bringing block county back after 25 years is because he can't resist the fact that donald trump is running for president. somebody wrote to him on facebook saying how fitting it was to have bloom county back and he responded that he couldn't deny that the chap you mentioned had something to do with it. so the character that portrayed donald trump in the heyday of bloom county in the 1980st was a character bill the cat. the whole schtick about bill the watt was he was filthy i thought maybe bill the cat was dead buried and dug up. maybe he was part road kill or a hair ball or something. the conventional wisdom is that
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he was the anti-garfield. bill the cat was wonderful and repulsive and blamed donald trump in bloom county in the '80s and now presumably he will again now that bloom county is back. donald trump is so good for political satire. he's not only brought us trump your cat, where you brush your cat to create a pile of fur and you form that into a trump-like cat toupee and put that on your cat's head and put it on instagram. donald trump has not only brought us truch your cat, he's brought back bill the cat as donald trump, he's brought back freaking bloom county. donald trump is so good for american political satire he's brought david letterman out of retirement. david letterman just retired. stephen colbert hasn't even taken over for him in cbs.
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apparently donald trump is enough to bring david letterman back. this weekend, david letterman popped up as a surprise guest at an event and explained why he was back. >> so many of you are asking why is he here? i would just say one thing. this is not my way of bragging. and by the way, i am so happy to be out of the house. retired, and -- [ crowd boos ] i have no regrets, none. [ applause ] i was happy i'll make actual friends. i was complacent i was
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satisfied, i was content. then a couple of days ago donald trump said he was running for president. [ laughter ] [ applause ] i have made the biggest mistake of my life. >> what is this, dave? [ applause ] >> a lot of people think that we know everything about a man, donald trump. a high profile person somebody who doesn't shy away from every aspect of his life. but take a look at the list i have here tonight. interesting facts about donald trump.
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>> so david letterman has come out of retirement because he could not resist making fun of donald trump. i have to interrupt here because this was not a david letterman top ten list that he created for his network television show. this is something he did for a live event. much of it is too blue for me to play on television. but not all of it. >> number five donald trump weighs 240 pounds, 250 with colon. -- cologne. number four truch would like all americans to know that thing on his head is free range. number two, donald trump has pissed off so many mexicans he's stars in a movie called "no amigos."
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[ applause ] >> david letterman, still retired apparently but working again, despite himself because donald trump is in that one very specific way, very good for our country. he's good for the well-being and mental health of political satirists. just this wmd, mr. trump reportedly told a gathering of hollywood conservatives that the united states shouldn't have invaded iraq when george w. bush was president, because the united states should instead have invaded mexico. the comment was reportedly not intended as a joke and greeted with rousing applause. that was friday night. he also then held a rally in phoenix, arizona on saturday but at that event, he was again unintentionally funny. >> jeb bush, let's say he's president. like when i went on dates, if a
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woman dropped me, which happened often, i would always like to say or at least in my own mind that i dropped her. does that make sense? so what happened -- makes me feel better. i don't even have to worry about obamacare, because my people got lucky. but i got lucky, too. they're great people. but isis will be in such trouble. [ applause ] isis, believe me they will be in such trouble. by the way, just so you understand even the press will say this crowd today blows away anything that bernie sanders has had. >> feel the burn. there is something almost bill
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the cat level surreal, ack, about seeing donald trump taunting bernie sanders. but actually truth be told, bernie's is bigger. >> i don't think they're that far off, either. >> come on come on. do we have that clip? please tell me we have the clip. play it. >> the size of this crowd matters to donald trump. >> we have about 10,000 people. >> the republican presidential candidate bragged in las vegas about what awaited him at his next stop in phoenix. >> this crowd today blows away anything that bernie sanders has had. >> democratic presidential candidate bernie sanders was welcomed by 10,000 people in wisconsin. trump topped him with his facebook post "this is what 15,000 people looks like." it was a great crowd. the hall was packed. there's one problem, 15,000 is more than three times the hall's
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maximum legal capacity of 4200. >> this is what 15,000 people looks like to me. i could be wrong. so donald trump continues to be at one level almost too ridiculous to cover. on the one hand it's in the realm of performance and pop culture and satire. on the other hand republican voters do seem serious about him. there aren't 15,000 people who turned out in phoenix to see donald trump. but there were a few thousand people. that was bigger than any of the other republican candidates are getting in terms of crowd size. a new poll has donald trump polling in second place nationwide, only jeb bush ahead of him. that's the second straight national poll which republican voters have put him and jeb bush as number one and number two. and while this is not easy to
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watch and bringing about a new golden age of comedy it is going to be real interesting to see how the other candidates the supposedly more serious candidates, have to position themselves against him if he keeps attracting this much attention and sucking up this much media attention and pulling big crowds around trumping them all, forgive me, in the polls. today, presidential candidate number 15 entered the race scott walker. he gave a really good speech. also there was maybe a slightly dicey choice for one of the introductions which came from a fox news channel host. >> scott has been married for 24 years. [ applause ] 24? 24 is bill clinton's favorite age.
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>> kind of a weird way to set up scott walker's presidential announcement today but he did make his long awaited announcement. and you know what? on paper, if you run the numbers on scott walker if you want to go money ball on scott walker he's super formidable candidate. he's maybe the best all around package that the republicans have got in this field of theirs, at least on paper. even before announcing he was running today, he's been leading in iowa in 11 of the last 12 iowa polls. he does not have one of those splitting debates that somebody like mike huckabee has or jeb bush has. he pleases both camps. scott walker has shown a proven ability to win in swing state territory. wisconsin voted for president obama twice, but they elected
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scott walker twice. he was the first american governor to ever survive a recall effort. he's a huge favorite of the koch brothers. the koch brothers made clear they like a lot of the republican candidates, but it seems like the one they would pick is scott walker. they've supported him for so long that during the recall campaign, somebody prank called the capitol, said they were one of the koch brothers and put right through to scott walker. that kind of thing is the other side of scott walker. he does really have all this stuff going for him on paper. he's not lost an election since 1990. he hasn't lost an election since like bloom county days. nobody thought he was going to win that recall effort, simply every governor had lost every recall in american history.
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when he gets fired up he can give a speech. he doesn't have some of the awkwardness, forgive me that ted cruz or rick perry have where they seem like they're acting out their speech. he seems like he's speaking his speech as himself. he's not rick santorum level. i continue to believe that rick santorum is the most natural communicator of all of them. it seems like he's got it all going on really. but then he does take the call from the guy he thinks is david koch. then the court orders the release of his staff e-mails and we see him writing a special hanukkah message and tries to sign off saying thank you again, and mazel tov, but then he says thank you again and molotov. there's a bunch of stuff like that including miscalculating a soft wall question whether or not he feels at all daunted
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about becoming commander in chief. >> is the prospect of becoming commander in chief daunting? >> i want a commander in chief who will do everyone in their power to ensure that the threat from radical islamic terrorists
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do not wash up on american soil. we will have someone that leads and ultimately will send a message that not only will we protect american soil but do not take this upon freedom loving people anywhere else in the world. we need a lead we are that kind of confidence. if i can take on 100,000 protesters i can do the same across the world. >> it's not a question about cheese or foreign affairs, it's about evolution. are you comfortable with evolution or accept it? >> i'm going to punt on that. >> no really? >> any british politician right or left wing they would say of course evolution is true. >> i'm here to talk about trade, not to pontificate that.
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>> room full of people laughing at him. that was the same trip to london that scott walker recently referenced on the campaign trail saying during that trip when he met with prime minister david cameron, he said that david cameron told him president obama was a weak leader then put out a statement saying the prime minister did not say that and does not think that. can he be president? i am an eagle scout. not that i was an eagle scout, i am an eagle scout. does that answer the question? scott walker on paper makes sense as a presidential front-runner in terms of his political career. when it comes to running for president, though he does keep doing some dumb stuff. under his leadership as governor, wisconsin has had a really bad time of it when it comes to jobs and the economy. the private sekctor job growth is
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one of the worst in the nation. wisconsin has steadily fallen in terms of job creation numbers when ranked against other states. in 2011 they were 35th the next year 36th. last year they held steady at 38th in the nation in terms of job growth. under scott walker wisconsin's economy has done terrible vis-a-vie the rest of the country. it's been terrible compared to states of a similar size and economic profile. if he does well that economic record will be the thing that democrats focus on. the question though is whether or not we even get to that point. whrnlt whether or not what we've seen is what we should expect that these embarrassing things he keeps saying are happening pause he really isn't a ready for primetime national guy, or whether these are just kinks
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that he was working out in the early days and some day soon when we look at scott walker we'll see what the koch brothers see in him. joining us is dan bise who has covered scott walker 22 years. thank you very much for being here. >> nice to be here. >> do you see a difference between presidential candidate scott walker and what he's been like as a politician in wisconsin? >> in some ways. but i thought today you very much got scott walker, the real scott walker. he's a friendly affable, if a little bit sweaty guy, who has limited experience outside of wisconsin, who is selling a polarizing domestic and foreign policy agenda. so there's some similarities. but at the same time he is who he is. he's a little more polished than he used to be and he's made
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fewer gaffes in the last two months or so. but he's still the same guy i've known for 22 years. >> you know, the reason i went through some of those gaffes that have happened on the campaign trail is not just for the absolute value of showing scott walker gaffes. it was in part just to say, you know, the eagle scout answer to why do you think you're prepared to be president, or why aren't you intimidated by the prospect was an unforced error that could not have been a friendlier audience. he volunteered the analogy between the protesters at the wisconsin state capitol and the terrorists in syria. those are the things that make we wonder what will happen in a high pressure environment like the debates. >> he's been pretty cool under pressure in the past. i think lot of these things were
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not anticipated. he had never run for office outside of wisconsin. i think he's going to get better and better as we go along. he's been underestimated for the last two decades. when i first met him i was underwhelmed by him. the joke was, the easiest way to get injured was to step in between scott walker and a tv camera. he does have an agenda. it's a great deal of distrust of government at all levels, and a great deal of confidence in the private sector. that's what he wants to bring. he also wants to be the anti-obama, which is very clear today. he wants to set himself apart from obama on just about every issue there is. >> dan bice thanks for being here. >> sure. >> thank you. wisconsin is blessed with an excellent news corp actually in
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hate is a four-letter word. so is love. which one are you going to teach your children? >> sorry. thanks, zach braf. the more you know. or in our knockoff cable version, it's you know more now. thanks, nick. when news stories that -- i don't know how long we can keep this up. when news stories that previously ended on a cliffhanger, news stories that ended on a two be continued, when you find out what happened in those news stories then you know more now. that includes stories like the troubled adventure of shell oil trying and failing to drill the arctic for oil. last week we reported on the latest banana peel that shell
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slipped on in the arctic which had to do with damage to one of their ice breaker ships. shell had been hoping to start drill thing month, but last week that's breaker was discovered to have a three-foot long hole ripped into the side of it on its way to the drilling site. oopse. shell has no idea how that hole got there. but shell is still trying to convince everyone that it's okay, they can handle it they know what they're doing. that's a hard sell because of the disaster upon disaster upon disaster that was the character of the last time shell tried to drill the arctic for oil in 2012. this new incident last week renews those concerns whether or not shell knows what they're doing up there. no idea where that three-foot long hole came from. it's an ice breaker. it's not like it's a fragile little ship. it's not like they had a canoe that they -- any way. now that they have a mystery
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hole in their ship what happens to their plan to drill the arctic? remember, small window of time to get this drilling started and get it done and they can't do it without their whole fleet of ships. the ship with the hole in it, has the stacking on board if the drill has a blowout. they can't drill without that in place. so would shell be able to repair that ripped up ship right this on site in alaska? would it be an easy fix to get the whole operation bark on track in a matter of days keeping open the prospect that shell might be drilling the arctic this month, or did this screw up the whole thing? would shell have to send the ship back to the continental u.s. for repairs that could throw off all their drilling plans? well, the answer we learned today is option b.
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17, 18 who knows republican candidates to compete for the nomination of president by getting on the stain. only ten. fox news says they will pick their ten on the basis of one criteria. they will average five of the most recent national polls and take the ten candidates who have the highest national poll averages. now, which polls will count? who knows, they're not saying. why pick national polls and not say standing in the early voting states? who knows? they're not saying. what is the sound difference between somebody polling at 3% and 4% which will likely be the kind of difference that in this system will determine who is allowed to compete for the presidential nomination and who is not? there is precisely no statistically significant difference between 3% and 4%. in this kind of a lineup. and under the fox news rules, 3% probably means you're dead. and 4% probably means the fox news channel will allow you to compete for president of the
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united states of america. it's insane that they are doing it this way. but it's what they're doing. and so we've been trying to guess at what fox news might decide. we've been keeping a running tally of what we think fox news might count as a national poll. on friday as we were trying to figure out, we -- by our calculation, we looked up jeb bush was in first place at that average in the last five national polls. scott walker was in second place. now today on the day that scott walker has announced he's running for president, he's moved down in our rankings he's in third place. because today a new national poll came out from monmouth university. it has jeb bush in first, but in second place it now has donald trump, which is nice for mr. trump, i'm sure. it also has the effect of vaulting donald trump ahead of scott walker in the five-poll national average standings, which is what fox news is using to determine who is allowed on the debate stage in the republican presidential primary debate.
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now, as of today, with that new poll, these first seven seats basically look to me to be confidentably ably comfortably safe to get into the debate. those seven look like they've got a podium. they're in. everybody else all ten of these other candidates have to battle it out for the three remaining spots on stage. ted cruz chris christie rick santorum bobby jindal george pataki and jim gilmore. ten candidates competing for three spots and every candidate is within the margin of error in national polling. at this point, sit a crap shoot as to which one will get to compete for the presidential nomination by appearing in the debate. and that's really not much that these candidates can do to adjust their position. lindsey graham spent some e-mails like this to rally support.
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brad pitt e he's also making sure to mention brad pitt when somebody talks to him about the campaign. maybe the strategy will work i don't know. >> the polling would suggest you're not cracking the top ten, which means you would not be on the main stage for the fox debate on august 6th. >> right. >> if that stays the way it is sir, will you participate in the forum that afternoon? >> well i've got to make my mind up about that. but brad pitt would be in the debate in august. anybody with any celebrity would be in the debate. i think this is a dumb way to weed out the field. >> brad pitt would never weed out the field this way. rick santorum has also been vocal for weeks about his dissatisfaction with the fox news plan. he was asked about it again
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today. he was asked about his strategy to get himself on the debate stage. >> i've been very, very vocal about this. i think to have the national media play such an important role early in a primary to determine who the top tier are and who they're not is undermining the -- if i was an rnc chairman it's undermining the process that was established by the rnc to let the state and voters make that call as opposed to the national media. when they're particularly using a yardstick that historically has had no relationship to who the actual winner of any of these primaries are going to be to me it's a miscarriage of -- by the rnc to agree to something like that. >> rick santorum says it is a
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misarnlg. lindsey graham talking about brad pitt. ted cruz asking he is supporters to sign a debate poll pledge. make sure the liberal media elite cannot deny our campaign a spot in the first presidential primary debate. sign your personalized debate poll pledge to help us show just how much momentum we truly have. the liberal media elite. fox news. [ laughter ] that's ted cruz's strategy there. pledge something. george pataki today told luke russert his plan to try to get into the debate. >> under the current rules of the debate you do not qualify, donald trump does. is there a problem with that? >> i don't worry about the rules, luke. when i ran for governor of new york, there were 3 million more democrats. was that fair? >> the george pataki plan don't
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worry about the rules. how is this going to play out? how is this debate this bizarre fight over who is going to make it into the debate and who doesn't, how is tell a pollster that they like one of these guys. joining us from the site of the scott walker announcement, thanks for your time. is the adrenaline still coursing through the room? >> the adrenaline is being quickly evaporated from the room before midnight when a lot of 4-h kids are going to show up and look for some space here. >> caseykasey, i am thinking broad picture. he is a perfect candidate on paper, much the way rick perry was in 2011 and 2012. but i feel like he's a black hole of charisma and makes a lot of very funny gaffs. i have a feeling it doesn't feel
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that way in person though. >> i think this speech, he showed a significant development over the course of the last sincesix months. he improved a lot memorized the entire speech. he's wearing a fit bit and taking thousands more steps per day for the last week or so as he's paced around trying to memorize this speech. sona nana nathat part of it was good. but he does have a hurdle to cross. the biggest question is whether or not scott walker can take the stage in wisconsin and actually step it up and fill those enormous shoes that are the commander in chief. and i think he took a solid step toward doing that today, but there are a lot of republicans who still think he has a lot to prove in that regard. >> one of the things we were speaking about with dan bice is scott walker under pressure.
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way he made his bones is by fighting liberal interest groups we've never really seen him duke it out with fellow republicans. is it at all clear to you what sort of role he's going to have what kind of dynamic he'll be part of in terms of these candidates trying to kill each other just trying to get onto the debate stage less than a month from now? >> that's the key question. if you look at that debate stage, that would be walker's first chance to do that. if trends continue and we end up with donald trump on that debate stage there's going to be a lot of interaction of how candidates are interacting with him. and i'm not sure for somebody like scott walker that's a great place to be, because obviously, trump has tapped in to this base republican voter anger. and a lot of those are people that scott walker's going to need. the question is who in the field
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would be well positioned to take that argument on. now whether or not chris christie is even going to earn a spot on that stage we don't know. but right now the dynamics of this race is it is so completelypressured by forces i don't think any of us expected to be seeing. >> thank you, and i worry about you and all those forklifts. stay safe in there. >> thank you, rachel. much more news ahead tonight, stay with us.
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okay. just one more thing about the scott walker presidential campaign launch. lots of attention to the scott walker presidential campaign logo. that's not the logo for scott walker that's for america's best contacts and eyeglasses, come on, you guys put up the right one. ah, now that's scott walker's running for president logo. see, totally different. i would point out that once upon a time there was an all liberal radio network called air america. one of the biggest stations was wlib in new york city. and this was our logo which i know had nothing to do with america's best contacts and eyeglasses. but if scott walker took it as an inspiration, well you're welcome, governor no charge. also. ready for redirects to the website for planned parenthood right now.
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can a business be...alive? it's just my impression but when ted cruz announced his candidacy this year, it seemed to me like he was running for vice president. he's running for the chance to be somebody else's running mate. i still think that ted cruz is running to be the republican vice presidential nominee. he's not really running for president, but i also think jim webb might also be running to the vice president nominee. >> i believe we can bring a different tone to the democratic party. the party has moved way far to the left. and that's not my democratic party. >> like ted cruz, it's possible that jim webb might also be
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running to be the vice presidential candidate. i don't know what a coup it would be on fox news but rubio/webb, can't you see it? tomorrow we'll have martin o'malley, current democratic contender for president. we'd love to have all the presidential contenders on this show technically jim gilmore, but martin o'malley will be here tomorrow. we'll see you tomorrow. it's time for the last word. >> i think i followed that. so you say, you know jim webb may be running for vice president, and others may be running for vice president. and then you say we have martin o'malley tomorrow. is the rachel maddow show saying that martin o'malley is running for vice president? >> more than that i think jim webb wants to be a lieberman cross over but