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the east coast and midnight west coast time. first, the 2016 results continue to pour in. in the last 30 minutes, nbc news projected bernie sanders winning the idaho caucus and getting 18 of the 27 delegates up for grabs. a lot of other stories though tonight, including bernie sanders in utah picking up 6 of the 37 delegates. bernie sanders doing well there. also a big story, projected winner in utah, on the republican side, ted cruz, and we are now able to say that he should be getting 40 delegates there. that is winner take all, if he clears 50%. we are projecting that, and this is at 3:01 in the east coast time, the first time we've projected that. more on that in a moment, and arizona, winner take all, donald trump getting all 58 delegates there. donald trump building on his delegate lead up in the 700s tonight. and putting him really on a path mathematically to be close to
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clinching if he doesn't clinch altogether. i want to bring back in our panel. we have rick tyler, former ted cruz aide, maria theresa kumar and joining us in studio, raul reyes, nbc news contributor. a lot going on here. that's why we are up late. i will tell you, rick, we don't always go live throughout the whole night. we do that here because of the two big stories we're watching. and you look at what is new this moment. ted cruz, now nbc news projecting will clear 50% and get those 40 delegates. how crucial is that for him tonight? >> i think it's very crucial, and the 40 delegates is going to help him keep that gap a little bit not as wide as it would have been. he's got some momentum and now he's got two weeks to get to wisconsin. i know that they've sent out alerts and they're going to have camp cruz there in wisconsin, i hear, and they're going to try to occupy that can hundreds of volunteers to help get out the vote in wisconsin. if you couple that with the
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never trump movement that is gaining hold, we'll see if cruz can pull it off in wisconsin. if he does that, i think we go to a brokered convention. >> when you say brokered, at a bottom line, what you're talking about, donald trump doesn't get the 1,237 to automatically clinch. but i'd like you and maria to speak to that scenario, we're getting into fact land, not projection land. and donald trump here is still out 300 delegates ahead. so even if he doesn't clinch, do you think, rick, you can go and actually take the nomination if you're trailing by several hundred delegates? >> i wouldn't frame it that way. the rules are the rules. it's a 50% threshold of the delegates. that's what it takes to win the nomination. if you don't get that on the first ballot, then the delegates can negotiate among themselves and decide where their votes are going to go.
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and we'll keep having ballots cast until somebody gets 50%. those are simply the rules. we can pretend that there aren't rules, but there are rules, and those are the rules, and that's how the convention works. everybody knows that going in. >> maria? >> i agree. i think that the republican party right now, what they need to do is start teaching massive education drive of civics, of what happens at the conventions. because right now, the narrative is that if donald trump doesn't get his way, he's going to have riots and it makes sense to folks, because they don't know the rule book. that said, i think one of the biggest stories for today and tonight, kasich didn't walk away with any delegates. that basically gives him another notch to basically have the republican party basically -- the establishment to have a conversation with him and say, look, it's time for you to step aside, so that cruz can continue trying to win -- try to contest at least this race against trump. >> we've been reporting on this,
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i spoke to several rnc members who have been on the rules committee, who say, echoing rick, look, it's not a power grab if you don't have the 50%, that's when conventions become more powerful. and yet some of them told me, look, they don't know the magic number, but it doesn't feel right. it doesn't feel like a good idea if cruz isn't close enough to take it from him. so there's rules and norms. >> especially in a time where it's trump who sets the narrative. i've had, i'm thinking of names in my head, conversations with people who are very well connected with the rnc, with people who have been delegates, with people who know the process, and they have explained to me how we could get to a brokered convention. what a contested convention would look like. and i've sat with other journalists and we always say, say that again. now how does that work? so the idea that the rnc is going to somehow sell this is the general public, including this huge segment of new voters that have turned out, not for
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the republican party, per se, but for donald trump, for his personality cult. i think it's going to be, maria touched on it, the educational outreach, that seems like such a steep climb, even if it is by the books, legal, or proper. >> i want to play devil's advocate. could it be one of the reasons that people are in the establishment hemming and hawing when it comes to who they put their weight behind, because they don't find ted cruz appealing either. i would love to have that conversation. is it partially that ted cruz is not particularly as appealing? would it be someone that wasn't on the ballot that all of a sudden they say, if it was somebody else, we would definitely do it? >> with that conversation, i know we were talking about this earlier with you, rick, because you were saying, so much is going to be happening in that time of two weeks before wisconsin. and ted cruz building on the momentum of his win tonight. but maria theresa, you were saying, when it comes to the
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stop trump movement and never trump, you're saying two weeks, it's too late. they should have been doing that. there's nothing that's going to change in the next two weeks that they shouldn't have already done. >> and part of it, yeah. part of it is that the folks that donald trump is appealing to, when he says that i'm opening up the republican party and bringing in new voters, i actually question how many new voters he's bringing in, or is he basically identifying disaffected democratic white, older voters who say neither party's talking to me, but trump is. so basically they're just switching party lines. >> it's also interesting when you bring in the discussion in light of brussels, where we're talking about now, we're seeing, you know, the gop kinda split as far as those running on foreign policy and what they want to do. and actually seeing where they stand on that. want to consider also what they said in light of brussels. donald trump doubling down on
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interrogation tactics, water board absolutely. he spoke about it this morning. let's listen and we'll talk about him and the others' responses as well. >> we are allowing thousands and thousands of people to come into our country, and we don't even know where they come from, and who they are. they're coming in from syria. they're coming in from different parts and from the migration. >> and you're going to fix that? >> excuse me? >> you say you're going to fix that? >> i'm not going to fix it. i'm not going to allow them to come in. okay? >> this is nothing new from donald trump. what i thought was interesting, hillary clinton in her speech tonight, never mentioned bernie sanders as far as this. however, she did mention donald trump. did mention ted cruz, saying the last thing we need are leaders who incite violence. is this going to be the pivot, especially in light of brussels, as far as the general election
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match-up and what we'll be seeing more of? >> if i was hillary clinton, i would be owning this conversation. she is the only one that actually has international experience negotiating with people around the world and actually has the credibility to do so. and has demonstrated it. that famous ad back in 2008 of who do you want answering the phone call at 3:00 a.m.? it's her. >> who answers the phone call at 3:00 a.m. is apparently nobody because there was a phone call at 3:00 a.m., from benghazi and it was from the ambassador's residence and nobody answered that call. and the middle east is in a crisis situation -- >> i think for the republican party to all of a sudden resurface benghazi right now, it's detrimental to the brand. >> i was just getting started. we have benghazi, we have libya. we have the arab spring that was not. we have syria. i mean, it just goes on and on and on. these things were all done under hillary clinton's watch. the iran deal was started and begun under hillary clinton's
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watch. so, look, i don't think hillary clinton has a very strong case to go forward, to say that her foreign policy, which is really just an extension of the obama foreign policy, and we saw it today, i'll go back to cuba. the reason barack obama should not have been at a baseball game is because he shouldn't have been in cuba. he sat next to the communist dictator, who denies he has political prisoners today in prison, nothing's going to get better for them. there will be no improvement for the cuban people. >> the fact that for the last 30, 40 years, we decided we were not going to engage in cuba. they didn't move the needle. now, all of a sudden cuba -- >> because cuba has to engage with us. >> given your commitment to sovereignty and self-determination, i'm also confident that you need not fear the different voices of the cuban people and their capacity to speak and assemble and vote for their leaders. >> the day before castro seemed
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reluctant. >> translator: give me a list right now of political prisoners, to release them. what political prisoners? i think the human rights issue ould not be politicized. that's not correct. >> the visit highlighted sharp differences between the two leaders, but it also showed a strong determination to work together to move the relationship forward. as obama's second term in office wraps up, many see his push to normalize relations with cuba as part of building his legacy and one that would bring historic change. >> we're bringing the world together. where we are leading the world against these terrorist networks. whereas some of my opponents want to build walls and shut the world off -- well, you tell me, how high does the wall have to be to keep the internet out?
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[ laughter ] >> right? you know, that's not the world we live in any longer. we got to take them on, on the internet, we need our great tech companies to be helping us do this. we have to shut their sites down. >> that's a message from hillary clinton that is very distinct from what everyone in the republican party was saying today in response to brussels. and yet at a minimum, as a matter of political rhetoric, it's a harder sell than the simplistic idea of we'll just being tougher. >> right. it's a harder sell and i great with on this issue. hillary is where the public is. we see the polls that she the american public supports engagement with cuba. we see the polls among cuban americans, whose lives have been defined by the united states. their in support of opening relationship with cuba. if you believe in capitalism, i
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think there's a conservative argument to make, if you believe in our system, if you believe in capitalism, it's inevitable that cuba is going to start becoming more like us. in china, as we've seen, in vietnam. so those barriers are going to come down either way. i think eventually more people on the gop are going to change their mind. and mr. tyler touched on the benghazi issue. i think after that 11, 13-hour issues. i feel like most americans have really heard enough from hillary about benghazi. >> it's a pause from the drip, drip, drip. >> right. and for her, it came across as a day at the office. although i think it will come back and we'll hear more about it, it's not going away, i think most people feel she's dealt with it, move on. >> you mentioned whether the cuba policy goes back to how you believe in capitalism. that raises the question. what if you believe in socialism, which is an issue in this democratic primary. we'll hear from all of you a little bit more.
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i suspect he might disagree with some of what you said. >> just a little bit. >> what we're going to do is sneak in a little break here, political coverage will continue. we have the four presidential candidates all picking up wins tonight, putting delegates on the board, clinton, cruz, sanders and donald trump. meanwhile, we are following, as we've been saying, the terror attack in belgium. we'll speak live to an american who sheltered in place for hours right after the attacks occurred. more live coverage straight ahead.
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it is after 3:00 a.m. here on the east coast, after 8:00 a.m. in brussels, where the city is waking up silent and sad. residents having many questions and fear, 24 hours after three blasts left at least 31 dead,
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injuring up to 230. and a massive manhunt is on for one suspect. authorities believe the man to the far right wearing the hat is at large and the other two, as you see, two wearing one glove, and wheeling baggage trollies are believed to be dead. overnight, raids conducted across belgium have turned up a bomb making factory, complete with explosives, nails, bolts, and an isis flag. >> joining us now is dan hill, an american staying in brussels not far from those blasts and has been sheltering in place inside his hotel since those bombs first went off. tell us about your efforts of safety and what you know. >> good morning. it's been 24 hours. i'm looking out the window of my hotel room that i was looking out yesterday when i heard all the sirens. it was around 15 minutes ago that we were seeing ambulances
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and police cars and didn't really know what was going on. we haven't left the hotel, i'm with my 17-year-old daughter, and hopefully today we'll get out of the hotel and try to make it to the train station and leave the city which is coming back to life today, but you can tell people are pretty cautious. >> dan, i imagine you're shaken up. when you heard about this, you're traveling there with your daughter. what are your worries and concerns knowing that you'll be traveling and when you come home, the world we live in knowing this happened and there is this threat out there and there is this belief that it may continue in parts of europe and knowing once you state back here at home the law enforcement is out there, intelligence is out there making sure it doesn't happen here.
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>> yeah. it's just -- as a parent, it's sad that this is the world we live in. i travel a lot. i've been around these situations with a little bit of a military and first responder background. but for my daughter, it's still very new to her. so most of my efforts is making sure she knows what to do if we ever get separated. yesterday morning, making sure she had clothes on and shoes and actually she had her passport in her pocket, instead of me carrying it. make sure she had money and a credit card. these are things you have to do as a parent, not to cause alarm, but to make sure your child is prepared. those are the things that go through my mind. >> you mentioned how brussels is reacting. we're looking here 8:20 a.m. at a live shot at what is a bit of
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these makeshift sort of grassroots tributes, people laying wreaths and candles and flags, all of that a spontaneous response to this terrible act of murder and terrorism that shocked the city. because you've been sheltering in your hotel, i imagine you're not seeing all of this from what is a live shot. but what did you learn from other people inside the hotel or the staff, can you give us any glimpse of how people reacted even in that small setting? >> yeah, it's funny, i've had a lot of conversations with hotel staff, because they've also been sheltered here. the hotel we're in is an american property that actually became the property for one of the metro stations and for the airport. so a lot of the people who were supposed to stay there ended up here and a lot of the staff ended up staying overnight. what they say is the tension has
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been high here in brussels for a long time, but they still haven't suffered this kind of an attack. and so they're going through it just like everyone else is. i think they're trying to go on about life. certainly something that's been broken here and you can sense that they don't know what the next days or weeks are going to be like. >> just briefly, building on that, were they talking only about security and the immediate response, was there talk about immigration control as we sometimes hear in the united states, those kind of debates, what has been on their minds? >> i'm not hearing anything about policy or kind of the picture, just the immediacy of the issue and when will metro stations be open. are there going to be more attacks? yesterday, when the first attacks happened, the discussion is that we could expect attacks maybe every hour throughout the day.
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and so those are the things that have people anxious here, at least the people i've talked to. >> you talked about your military and first responder background. you know, mentioning how you're going about and trying to make your daughter prepared. sounds like it's very practical as that approach. but as a dad, knowing paris was attacked, after the paris attack and knowing this happened and then coming home, are you any more fearful for yourself and for your family? >> well, it's a tough thing. yet, to a certain extend like we're going to the train station to board a train to go to paris today. and of course, paris is on heightened alert. so you can't just enjoy a taxi ride to the train station anymore. and that's disappointing. but at the same time, my daughter is studying french and she's always wanted to see
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paris, and do we allow ourselves to be separated from society and not do the kinds of things we want to do because of these things? it's a tough call. part of me says let's not go to paris, let's go to the french countryside. but i think we'll give it a shot and if i sense things aren't safe there and if we aren't able to settle in, we'll change plans. >> we've been hearing from politicians, security experts, certainly from our reporters in the field. it is good to hear from an american tourist there, living through this. dan hill, i know it's a difficult time for you and your family. thank you for spending a little bit of it with us. >> thank you. it's not -- for us, it's fine, we're safe. it's the families that are affected that we're thinking of. >> safe travels to you, dan. thank you for your time. >> absolutely. joining us now, law enforcement analyst and former atf special
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agent in charge, jim cavanaugh. some of our viewers will recognize you from walking us through live action scenarios here in the united states, live shooter scenarios. we turn to you now for something related but different, which is a live manhunt if a place where everyone obviously wants to help, where i think it's safe to say authorities have the benefit of full public participation, but yet this is a difficult thing. operationally, you as a former agent, just walk us through how this works, what are they doing likely this morning in brussels? >> well, they're putting together all the facts from the plot, and they're trying to capture the hat, i'm calling him the hat, the guy in the airport that placed the third bomb that did not detonate in the airport. of course -- >> all right. jim, hang on just a second. we're getting new information as
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far as the suspects here. for that, i want to turn to alster jamison with that new information. what can you tell us? >> reporter: msnbc confirmed in the last few moments that the two suicide bombers at brussels airport yesterday have been identified as brothers. they apparently, according to a broadcaster were known to police and have been living in a brussels suburb under an assumed identity. one of those brothers, of course, escaped and is on the run and is the subject of that major manhunt this morning. so police sources confirming to msnbc news that those two suicide bomber behind the airport attack opposed to the subway attack are khalid and brahil el bakraoui.
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that gives a name and a space responsible form this atrocity. they are suspected to be part of this wider terror cell placed in the brussels suburb of molenbeek. despite numerous raids since the paris attacks and the arrest of some 18 others, clearly there are still members of this cell out there with the bombmaking ability and capacity to carry out these acts of terror with the necessary weaponry. many of these raids involved the sieger of large amounts of weapons. that adds to what the belgian interior minister acknowledged, was a real sense of fear. but he's saying the security level is at maximum in france and in britain. >> stay with us, as we reflect on this breaking news.
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jim cavanaugh, what does it mean when the police can make an identification this quickly? >> well, it's huge. it goes back to the ties we see in these terrorist networks. there always a lot of family connection and close friends and that holds true here in this case when he talks about the brothers. so they have the hat identified. he's important because these three guys go to the brussels airport and they have three bombs, two detonate, maybe one is 15 pounds full of nails, the other one might be a little larger, and there's another one that's going to go off that does not detonate. the hat leaves. 75 minutes later, another bomb of maybe 20 pounds full of
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nails, the reason these bags is so heavy is they're infusing fire systems, explosives, and then they're packed full of nails. that's what gives it the weight. then there's some other clothes in the satchell to hide the bomb. it's interesting the taxi driver said there was one bag they left at the residents that they couldn't carry. three bombs at the airport. woman bomb in the metro, that's four. one bomb left they couldn't carry. there's five nail bombs in the case. the hat's loose. does he have anymore. it's a good thing for authorities that the bomb factory, if you will, which is just their apartment where they mix up the chemicals in beakers and they cook it and mix it. it's not the general motors factory, it's their apartment. this is what bomb factories are.
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so having his i.d. and knowing who he is, is very important. except that they have a strong network, logistical support network in brussels and europe. >> jim cavanaugh, stay with us. if you're just joining us here on msnbc, nbc news learning from law enforcement out of brussels that two of the attackers in the brussels attacks 24 hours ago are brothers identified as khalid and ibrihim el bakraoui. we know one of the suspects is at large. a manhunt is still under way as the city of brussels in the country of belgium waking up 24 hours after this attack that left 31 people dead, injuring 230. i want to bring in a former cia
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an less. you pivot to this, jack, knowing we have this new information here. on an intelligence level, what is the next step now that they know these two, especially factoring in that you have salah abdeslam captured on friday, with a believed network of 30 plus people that may have helped him. and how is intelligence going about it in doing this, knowing that this is the same intelligence that has been criticized for being flawed for even allowing this to happen in the first place? >> it's great that you bring up that point, because what i think you can do now is not only are you going to follow up any leads to the brothers, but what you then can do is salah abdeslam doesn't necessarily know what it is that authorities know. so you keep him completely isolated from all intelligence, from all information, from any news reports, because then you can go back in with what you have to confirm what it is that he's telling you to determine whether or not it's accurate and you can follow through from
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there and push from there. it's a different angle. it's a different way to approach this, and there are so many different ways to interrogate somebody like this in the first place. understand, i'm not a former cia analyst, i'm a case officer. i was a field guy. so if we think about how you're going to interrogate, part of it is you can go in and push somebody that you know to be true or false, because you can come back at them quickly to drive them down the particular path that you want. that's what is critical in a case like this. >> we're going to take a quick break here and continue with our breaking live coverage of this news here at 3:32 on the east coast. police have made an identification of these two brothers. that is in normal parlance a break in the case. we'll be right back. to over 100 of the web's leading job boards with a single click.
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msnbc live at the top of this hour. at the bottom of the hour i should stay, staying on top of our breaking news. police sources confirming that two of the suspects in the brussels bombing are brothers and they have been identified as khalid and ibrihim el bakraoui. those are the two suspects you see on the left side wearing black, who died in those three attacks there.
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the one suspect you see on the right is still out there with a massive manhunt going on in brussels. also i want to bring in former atf special agent in charge jim cavanaugh. but i want to start with you. what is significant as we are just identifying this just moments ago, the significance that they are brothers. if you look back at other attacks, we seen the boston bombing brothers. >> we saw it in the tsarnaev
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brothers, we saw it in the "charlie hebdo" attackers. this is about the peer pressure and peer support dynamic among this kind of brotherhood. it's either the brother pressuring come in, join me, join me, or the other brother saying i want to join you. the other part is there is that massive trust between the brothers. they know with a high degree of certainty they're not going to snitch on them. so they create that kind of confidence which essentially reasserts the radical ideology between them. so it is definitely a powerful dynamic when you have brothers working together instead of just operatives. >> do you think when it comes to isis and the way of going out and recruiting, is that something they seek and look forward to, or is this just a coincidence when it comes to these kind of radical attacks
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that have been going on? >> the idea that isis is not saying you have to recruit your brother to join us. but once you have a radical element in the family who wants to find a support system around him, who is better than his own brother to be in his support system, instead of relying on individuals that might not be truthful. >> how will authorities be taking this information that msnbc just confirmed and map out where there may be other connections, witnesses, on even threats, jim? >> you're trying to find out the connection between salah abdeslam and the brothers, salah abdeslam and the hat. and then they're walking back, as you say, through that network, where are these connections, who is the bombmaker for the brussels
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attacks? who is the bomb master who is training the other people to make these devices? so the investigators are walking it back. they already know a lot of this stuff and they knew a lot from paris. you never work a big investigation where you don't learn a lot of information and people like salah abdeslam can plug in those gaps. so it's a significant find that they were concocting this in the apartment. it's a significant find. it's not that another bomb factory couldn't be operational, but this could be the one that was making these five devices, at least we know of, for the brussels attacks. so that's a significant find for the police. they're working way behind the curve there, way behind. but maybe that cab driver, not satellites, none of that helped. but that cab driver put them right back in the apartment. it's simple, basic police work.
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whose apartment is this? who lives here? who is the neighbors? then you start searching it out. so they're running it back fast. i'm hoping it will give brussels a little breathing room. but i'm afraid europe is in for a rough patch in the next few months. >> this latest information fitting the blanks of what happened and also possibly what could happen. stick was, as we'll continue our conversation on this and update you on the latest primary and caucus results happening overnight as those results have just come in.
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you are looking at a photo of a man who is the subject of the manhunt in brussels. he was previously unidentified. but right now 3:44, msnbc has confirmed his name. he is believed to be a 24-year-old. this is the at-large suspect,
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the so-called third bomber in that brussels attack. we are live with our special coverage. his name is najim laachraoui. we know more now than we did before. we have an identification. we have an age. what else will authorities be looking at as this profile is filled in? >> this is exactly capitalizing on these details. whatever little details we know, whether his age, picture, and so on have to be spread everywhere, metro station, airports, highways, schools, anywhere you can actually distribute that information. but the second thing is, now we are zooming in on this individual, you have a name, you go through the role-a-dex of individuals that have been arrested before, run-ins with the law and see variations of the spelling, variations of that
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name. >> you mentioned run-ins with the law. the other two brothers identified, according to police sources, those two brothers had prior records. they had misdemeanors but nothing on the order of terrorism or national security, according to what police are telling our folks. what does that tell you, that you have two brother there is with misdemeanor records and this person in the hat now, does that give you a profile, the age, where they were on, on their path to radicalization? >> you look at previous cases and you see so many different radical jihadists, whether on drug charges or other charges, sometimes they spend time in jail and that's where they got radicalized and left and became more radical over time. it seems like both brothers were talking in the same footsteps
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and it reaffirms they had that kind of peer pressure and peer support dynamic between each other and reaffirmed each other's beliefs. >> this is a manhunt going on right now. the attackers as you see here, 24-year-old najim laachraoui. i want to taurn to alistair jamison. what are you learning? >> reporter: new information all the time this morning from law enforcement sources in belgium. that suspect, the source of the manhunt that you just mentioned, he is, according to law enforcement sources, he is linked to the paris terror attacks. he had some involvement in them, and he is clearly someone who is
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known to them and still is wanted by them. and that tells us a little bit more about the extent of this massive belgian terror cell and confirms our theory that this was essentially another part of that massive terror cell responsible for the paris attacks that launched yesterday's attacks. it just goes to show that this cell was so vast and involved so many people that it's been carrying out a terror campaign through central european capitals over a gifive-month period. despite that, many of them are still on the loose and have access to bomb-making equipment, weapons and so on, despite all these --
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>> alistair, i just want to underscore what you're telling us and pause for a moment. you're indicating the police sources confirming that this individual that we've just this hour identified as the hat, as jim cavanaugh was putting it, as the manhunt suspect, is also suspected of involve in the paris attacks. in other words, this is not a sleeper cell for people who may eventually act. you're telling us this is basically a cross border multistate actor suspected now of being involved in two of the most deadly terror attacks the west has seen in the last year? >> that is absolutely correct. we suspected that the cell was large and in this seems to confirm that. there have been so many raids since the paris attacks. 18 people have been arrested and remain detained since those
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november 13th attacks. yet there are others out there that have access to these weapons and this makes it one of the largest terror cells, if not the largest that have been known to authorities to carry out these attacks. that won't do anything to apply the fears of people in brussels and other european capitals this morning about essentially where the next attack could be. >> alistair, do you know, and you may not, but do you know if police look at this as premeditated plan to attack in multiple countries and it starts out that way, or whether this is something they hit paris, they see who is still around and move forward? because a lot of talk and chatter about this attack being a long time in the making. >> that's exactly the scenario that law enforcement, particularly in the united states, are thinking is more le likely that essentially it started out as a paris attack
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and they regrouped elsewhere. and have simply stated their intention to carry out other attacks in other places wherever they can. the isis claim of responsibility last night indicated that these would be dark days for any country that is waging a war on isis. i guess that includes the united states, although security officials have been keen to point out there is no intelligence indicate thing is a specific planned attack in the united states. that's also true in britain. nonetheless, britain's terror alert remains severe, and severe means a terror attack is not only possible, but highly likely. so authorities essentially are just waiting for these attacks to take place and have to be as vigilant as they can. >> alistair jamison from our london bureau. we'll be checking back with you. the belgian bombing suspects
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both named this hour, named as an official suspect in the paris attacks, multistate terror links there. a big break potentially in this case. our special live coverage of the attacks in belgium and the election continues right after this break.
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major developments out of brussels and right here in the 2016 race. we'll start with utah, where republicans saw a little bit of
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a turn of events as ted cruz came out there and he won all 40 delegates. we didn't know that earlier tonight. we do now because he's over 50%. it triggers winner take all and gives him a key victory here. donald trump still way out ahead. marco rubio still has more delegates than john kasich. that's why you see him third there. let's take a look on the democratic side here. bernie sanders winning in idaho, picking up 18 of their 27 delegates. a good night for him in a place where he could use organizing prowess. we spoke to folks on the ground there. historic turnout in idaho. especially for democrats. straight ahead, we'll reset and give you more of the breaking news we were telling you about and the manhunt for the belgium bombing suspects. we are confirm the names of the three people. and we have other new developments right after this break. we needed 30 new hires for our call center.
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