tv The Rachel Maddow Show MSNBC May 27, 2016 1:00am-2:01am PDT
>> that was fun. president obama will never again highlight a white house continueses dinner but i always felt his best joan that his best joke in all of those years was this one. >> of course,'ve after i've done all this, some folks still don't think i spend enough time with congress. why don't you get a drink with mitch mcconnell, they ask. really? whew don't you get a drink with mitch mcconnell. >> all in the dlirchry. arguably getting a drink with mitch mcconnell, trying to make fake friends with members of congress who you don't necessarily like very much, that arguably is part of being president and that's a good
reminder that i'm sure being president is generally a great job but i'm also sure there are parts of it that are no fun and that you'd really rather not do, even though you like being president. we're reminded of that again just this week. president obama flew off to another international summit. in this case it was the g7 summit in joe louis arena japan and one of the things they have do is do a fam lu portrait. you know, they have do so many of these things. usually most people look okay. somebody always looks off. angela merkel looks like one of the kids. a lot of times they wear unflattering outfits. it's all u.s. presidents. there's some things about the job that probably get grading over time. they don't make you psyched to get up in the morning even if you very president of the united states. really? i have to wear this? whether it's the ceremonial
occasion. there's george bush in the background. or you have to do something creepy with your hand, like you left your body. i have to tell you i once went to the white house christmas party. it was a huge honor, personally as matter of human empathy, it made me very sad at that christmas party to see the president and the first lady standing under hot lights in a window less ceremonial room for hours and hours as a giant long group of people snaked through. people waiting in line by the hundreds where they got to shake hand to the pr and say hello to the first lady. get a picture to extract every human ounce of energy out of them like blood sucking ticks all lined up in a row. you know, that was only one of like a dozen parties that the president and first lady did
that month, you know, that particular year, and they do it every year. and there's these rope lines that they do. a lot of the things about being president must be really cool but not everything about being president is cool. i mean nobody's going complain, right? if you're president you're supposed to be super humanly capable. if you're president, you take the bad with the good and you've got to do it all. being president is a big job. you've got to do it all. or maybe you don't. the chairman of the donald trump for president campaign gave a remarkbling interview to howard fineman at the "huffington post" in which he told mr. fineman there are part os testify job of being president that, donald trump, quote, doesn't want to do. howard fineman asked paul manafort who donald trump might choose as his vice-presidential running mate.
really? so, sure, donald trump wants to be president but there are parts of being president that he's not going to do, that he's going to -- he's just going to oversee broadly. the actual running things part of it. being the chief operating officer, even being the executive in charge, he's not planning on doing that. he'll find other people to do that. he'll hire only the best. it does leave open can what part of the jobs he really does want to do. who knows. it's possible the christmas party part of it will be right up his alley. maybe that will be his parent part and also the outfits at the apex summit. i don't know. thl is quoting from "the huffington post" today.
the campaign probably won't choose a woman or a member of a minority group for vice president, manafort said. quote, in fact, that would be viewed as pandering. depending on how you think about this, this is arguably a little bit illegal. i mean if this was a job listing, you would not be able to put out a job listing saying we're only considering a white person for this job. if you're a white person or very not, this job would be for you. we think that would be considered pandering. try putting that in your local paper. see how that goes over. try putting that on the help wanted sign with an aster risk that you put up in the window of your coffee shop. lille legally speaking vice-presidential running mate is not a job.
so i don't think anybody has standing to sue the donald trump campaign for only considering white men for the role. yeah, that's what they said. it's been a weird year in politics. today was a weird day in politics. i mean there were some normal things that happened in today's news -- in today's news, bernie sanders for example expanded the list of other candidates he w.h.o. he's endorsing and who he's asking his supporters to fund. for the first time today he picked a senate candidate. he's asking his supporters to throw their weight behind russ feingold who's waiting to get his seat back, running to unseat johnson in wisconsin thachlt was interesting. and in the on going democratic primary in california has it a two-point race between hillary clinton and bernie sanders.
both hillary clinton and bernie sanders as of today are running ads in california. hundreds of thousands of dollars in adds to try to win the california primary. that's interesting because that means the democratic primary running right to the end is proving among other things is proving to be an expensive proposition. it's also interesting on granular level because california is such a diverse state. it's interesting for these candidates. you can't get way with just running bilingual states. there's subtitling. mostly asian languag. the clinton campaign is running phone banks in seven different languages because the state of california is so awesomely diverse right now. so that's news today. sort of normal political news
today. interesting. on the other side of the country in kentucky we got the results of the recanvassing of the kentucky primary which the sanders campaign had requested. they recanvassed kentucky. there was no change at all. sanders campaigns with hoping for one delegate for the statewide recanvas. they did not get their one delegate so the kentucky result is unchanged. like i said, there's some normal stuff, interesting stuff but normal stuff in today's police cal stuff. beyond normal stuff, there's whole other stuff that the political news is handling that honestly is epically weird. first of all, consider the fact that the republican presidential primary ended today. today was the day. surprise. in all of those election nights, all of those sunday mornings, political explainer big board moments, that we looked at the maps, counted the delegates to figure out when and where the republican nomination would be clinched. none of those maps, none of
those see nair yores would ever suggest that he would hit 1,237 on thursday may 26 in north dakota, but that's what happened tore. he hit the magic number. he hit 1,237. he got the majority of numbers he needed and clinched the nomination today not by win anything particular state, not by prevailing in any particular contest. he clinched the nomination just by a few unbound delegates decided to take phone calls from the "associated press" where they plan to vote for donald trump. than -- and that was it. all of this happened on the occasion of nothing. it because thursday in north dakota. why not. let's end it today. so after he got the pledges, donald trump lined up those previously unbound delegates who now say they'll support him and he got behind the podium in north dakota that was it.
after all this, this is him announcing he's the republican nominee for president this year. >> thank you very much, everybody. the folks behind me got us right over the top from north dakota, so north dakota made a big statement and i just really appreciate it. we will not forget it. thank you very much. >> that was it. that's how it happened. a year of buildup, four years of anticipation, right, since the last election. and that is donald trump winning the republican nomination for president today. and that was weird enough. but then he immediately moved on to winning the democratic nomination for president, too, or at least trying to win the democratic nomination. >> you said you wanted to debate bernie sanders. >> i'd love to debate bernie. >> would you actually take the steps? >> i said last night on jimmy's show, it was a question that was posed. i said i'd love to debate him
but i want a lot of noun be put up for charity. so what we can do is money raised for health issues or something, if we can raise 10, $15 million for charity, which would be a very appropriate amount, i think we could get high ratings. it should be in an arena somewhere. i could have a lot of fun with it. the problem with debating with bernie sanders is he's going to lose. his system is ricked. >> the democratic system is rigged against him. on the day the fromtd running party clinches the nomination, a 100 plan, to debate head to head, one on one, a candidate from the other party who honor isly is not in contention to win his nomination, this is very strange. this is like a hat trick, a slam during and a dunk all in one. there's no risk of him losing that.
imagine the worst-case scenario for his debate with bernie sanders. where bernie sanders just trounces donald trump. humiliates him in the debate. that poses no long-term authentic to donald trump. there's no chance he's going to be his general election opponent. and in fact the better he looks in a debate with donald trump, the better it is in the long run for donald trump because that would only elevate bernie sanders' standing in the ongoing democratic primary which is still ongoing. and if you elevate bernie sanders' standing in the primary, that still prolongs that already long and expensive primary, it further undermines hillary clinton's standing as the democratic likely nominee, theechb e she's shir of getting nomination. it only undercuts her.
for donald trump, this prospect of a debate with bernie sanders, it's all upside. all upside for him. why on earth would democrats le him play in their primary like this? imagine if something like this happened in 2012, right? barack obama obviously the nominee for the democratic parties in 2012. mitt romney in 2012. imagine if before mitt romney had technically clinched but while he was on track to win, imagine in bachl 'nounsed he was going to do a head-to-head prime time tv debate between himself, barack obama, and newt gingrich. right? it would have been a hilarious, hilarious play in the other party's primary. a giant cross-party dirty trick that you get to play right out in the open. the impetus for this idea, this trump versus sanders debate reportedly came from the sanders
camp. he told donald trump that the question he was about to ask him about debating bernie sanders, that question had been given to him by bernie sanders. apparently the kimmel show asked bernie sanders' cam pane if they had a question that jimmy kimmel should ask. should he fwe dee bait bernie sanders. oh, yeah. today he should be really excited about getting his wish. >> let me begin by telling you something i just learned a few moments ago and excites me very much. we asked donald trump if he would be prepared to debate, and it appears that donald trump is prepared to debate.
and i'm very excited about it and i think i'm going have to rent out the largest stadium you have here in california and maybe he can tell us why he was one of the leaders of a so-call ed birther movement designed to try to delegitimize the presidency of the first african-american president we have ever had. so i they -- i they mr. trump for agreeing to debate. i look forward to it. and i look forward to defeating him and becoming the democratic >> i look forward to defeating him and becoming the democratic nominee. donald trump is not who you need to defeat in order to become the democratic nominee.
the person you would have to defeat would be this person who is now in a very weird position. unprecedent position because nothing like this has ever happened before in modern u.s. history. actually nothing like this has ever happened before in any part of u.s. history. no presumptive nominee has ever debated a rival from the other party ahead of the general election. it's just never happened. but now as sorts of a pistonser move against hillary clinton both for their own reasons, bernie sanders and donald trump are working together to try to pull this off. it's never happened before. hillary clinton's basic decision, la, la, larks la, la. >> do you think it's appropriate? >> you know, i know they've gone back and forth on this than thaind seem to be saying it's some kind of a joke.
trump doesn't sound very serious but i can tell you i'm looking forward to debating donald trump in the general election. >> do you think if bernie sanders does this, it's a way of setting back party unity in the democratic party? >> i doerjts think it's going happen. i think that's pretty clear. >> your reaction, would you be open to joining the two of them in that debeat? >> this doesn't sound like a serious discussion. i'm looking forward to debating donald trump. that maybe hnlt will turn out to be right. be right. maybe it won't happen. you know, the trump campaign -- initially voiced last night on
late night tv the trump campaign said this morning that donald trump was just joking around. it's just something that came up on a late night show. didn't mean it. that's what the campaign was. no reason to take this seriously. then you know what? this afternoon in his wooerd bunker-like presidential conference where he claimed the presidential nomination, the candidate himselfmate made it seem very clearly that he's ready to go ahead with this. >> have you guys started talking to the sanders votes? >> jeff weaver said his time has been having conversations with your team. >> it's true. they have to pay a lot of money for it. at this case, it's over $10 million. why should networks put the money in their coffers? i would rather give to various groups involved with women's
health issues. okay? >> it is martd to believe that the democratic party would let its own party be hijacked like this. it doesn't appear there eej knell they can do. there aren't any more, right? as to the 20. i have no idea. it kind of makes your head spin thinking about it. bernie sanders had suggested talt very start of this president am campaign last summer, i remember talking to himmen it directly. as part o the process, democrats and republicans should face each other. that would be an interested way.
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ahead to drop the atopic mom. he saw it as an alternative to invaded. ja pap was given an ultimatum. japan refused. truman headed home crossing the atlantic across the uss augusta. a b-29 took off, and carried a single bomb, and dropped it at 5:15 a.m. in hiroshima. >> more than 80,000 people were killed. tens of thousands were horribly burned and poisoned with radiation. the president again warned japan
and said surrender or face a rain of ruin. there was no reply, so another atomic bomb was dropped on japan. this time on nagasaki. finally japan gave up. >> i accept a full acceptance of the deal. >> he had not regretted using atomic bombs to end it. >> i made that decision with conviction, saving hundreds of thousands of lives, japanese as well as americans. >> it was the only sensible thing to do. it was the only thing to do. >> truman lived to see other
nations develop atomic weapons. he watched the world come to the brink of nuclear war in the cuban missile crisis and then stepped back with treaties to limit nuclear weapons signed under kennedy, nixon and johnson. what did not happen was another use of atomic weapons by anyone. the city of hiroshima devastated years ago is thriving today. while the cold war may be history, it has been replaced by fears of nuclear war states. a simple movement marks the spot where the atomic age started. and truman went to his grave
believing he did the right thing. >> i don't care what they say, they didn't have to make the decision. >> brian williams giving us a history lesson of what took place in in the 1940s. now we look in hiroshima right now. the media and other members of the delegation are in place. the spth on sight there to lay flowers at that memorial. also accompanied by the prime minister of that country, shinzo abe. joining me is jonathanallen. talk about the history that we're all witnesses here, president obama being the first sitting president to visit hiroshima. >> first of all, president
obama, when he was in the senate made a declaration during what he was doing in the senate and in his campaign, he wanted to talk about the new start tribute to russia, the deal with iran getting a nuclear weapon. this is something he has been thinking about for a long time and that he very much cares about. there is a gap between his call and the american call for nonproliferation, a sort of conflict with our own history of how they have been the continue countries to drop nuclear weapons. and i think this starts to bridge that. and giving authority to make that call for a nuclear free world. i spoke to someone on the trip saying he wants to talk about
the commitment of the nations of the world to having a nuclear free world. and the japanese call on him to make an apology and he will not. japan is an important ally to the united states. >> there is an extraordinary allegiance to the two countries. witnesses this for himself as the president has been there for the last several days, and ron, the president is on teegt, and jonathan mentioned that the president will not be apologizing. so what the white house, the people around president obama hope that the times sends as a wide mess an of what our
country's history's share. >> yes, that is part of it, the shared history. japan is arguably america's closest ally in this part of the world. and the president will talk about how time has healed those wounds and how far japan has come. and back in 2009, a lot of japanese people here in hiroshima talk about a speech that he gave in prague where he said he envisionenned a world be no nuclear weapons.
the other thang president said in that speech is that he believe that's america, because of what happened here, as a moral responsibility to lead the world in the efforts to rid the world of nuclear weapons. a lot of survivors said they want to hear that. so those are some of the things that we believe he will reflect on. this will be a very brief event. a very profound moment. he will make very subdued remarks here. this is not an event or ceremony, this is just an occasion for him to honor hose lives lost here and warn the world about the nuclear weapons
and prolive ration. this is something he wanted to do as far back as 2009. he has not come here because the time was not right and there was a real concern that the president would appear to apologize for what happened here. but they made clear that he would not apologize. this is not about revisiting the decision to drop the bomb and to use that unheard of experimental device, and president truman perhaps did not even understand the full extent and magnitude of what the weapon would do. i spoke with his grandson who says and talks about how his family has agonized with this for many years. how president truman never
really talked about it to the kids and grand kids, but his grandson loves and respects his grandfather and appreciates publicly and privately that he dropped the bomb to hasten the end of the world it could have cost countless more lives than what were lost here. that is the rationale of president truman at the time, but president obama will not revisit those issues. he will not discuss and debate whether or not this was a good thing to do or a bad thing to do. he will focus on some of the
threats out there the president said that north korea is one of the biggest threats they face now. and each test gives it more knowledge and increases the danger. those are some of the themes we think he will focus on here. >> what has the reaction been to attempts by prime minister abe. japan only having the self defense forces right now, only having self defense forces right now, they do not send troops into combat zones.
and with their geography, and their concerns with china, is there an appetite to have a bigger military there or an expanded imprint? >> some appetite, perhaps, but there is a lot of push back from korea, china, and nations that remember the horrors and atrocities. there has been such a pacifist nation since then because of the awful legacy it bears. and that is one reason where there was some question about important president should come here. it could appear that he is drawing a line under that difficult history that japan has with war. so that is also in the background. another question that has been
raised is whether or not the prime minister would not travel to parole harbor at some some point. that was the event that precipitated america's involvement in world war two. he pointed out that he spoke in the united states some time ago before congress. and he didn't apologize, but he honored the lives lost, and at this point he does not see the need, but there is nothing in the works where prime minister abe will travel to pearl harbor. >> he said at this moment i don't have any specific plan to visit idea. what is the reaction to the president from the japanese people? and that he is the first sitting
u.s. president to be there? what is the reaction to that and the feeling that while there will not be an apoll fbi, this is a sign of moving forward and recognizing history for what it is and showing where we stand today. >> he is popular here, this visit is well received. a number of people said they wish an american president had come here a long time ago. they're lad he is showing what some call the courage to come here. i see a lot of activity over my shoulder here. i see some dignitaries arriving there. it appears yes there is president obama out there at the empty tomb. that is the signature lumt here. and the ceremony is about to
possessed the means to destroy itself. why do we come to this place? to hiroshima? we come to ponder a terrible force unleached in a not so distant past. we come to pourn the death, including over 100,000 of japanese men, women, and children. thousands of koreans, a dozen americans their souls speak to us. they ask us to look inward. take stock of who we are and what we might be.
it is not that war sets her she ma apart. art facts tell us that the violent contact was made, our early ancestors having laearned to make spears for hunting and also to use against their own kind. on every continent, the history of civil vags is filled with war. one driven by scarety of brain. hunger for cold, compelled by nationalist ferver. nations have risen and fallen.
and at each juncture, innocence, a countless toll, names thorgten by time. the world war that reaches patrick swayze brutal end in hiroshima and magnagasaki. the civilization that has given us thinkers that advance harmony and truth. and yet the war grew out of the same instinct for domination, for con kwept among the simplest
heroism. graves that echo unspeakable depravity. yet in the image of a mushroom crowd that grows into these skies, we are most starkly reminded of humanity's poor contradicti contradiction. how the very spark that marks us as a species. our thoughts, our imagination, our language, our tool making, our ability to set ourselves apart and bend it to our will, also give us the capacity for unmatched destruction. how often does the material advancement or social innovation behind us to this truth? how easily we learn to justify
violence in the name of a higher cause. every great religion promises a path way to love, peace, and righteousness. nations araise telling a story that binds people together in sacrifice and cooperation allowing for remarkable feats, and the same stories have been used to oppress, and to humanize those who are different. sunshine allows us to communicate across the seas and fly above the crowds to cure decide. and understand the cosmos. but those same discoveries can be turned into ever more efficient killing machines.
the wars of the modern age teach us this truth. hiroshima teaches this truth. technological progress without an equivalent progress in human institutions can doom us. the scientific revolution that lead to the splitting of an atom requires a moral revolution as well. and that is why we come to this plain. we stand here, in the middle of this city, and force ourselves to imagine the moment the bomb fell. we force ourselves to feel the
great of children confused by what they sea. we listen to a silence cry. we remember all of the innocent killed across the arch of that terrible wars and the wars that game before, and the words that would follow. we can look directly in the eye of history and ask what we must do differently to curb such suffering again. some day, the voices will no longer be there to bear witness.
but the memory of the morning of august 6th, 1945 must never fade. that memory allows us to fight complacency. . it fuels our moral imagination and allows us to change. since that fateful day, we have made choices that give us hope. the united states and japan forged an alliance and a relationship. one that we could never claim through war. the nations of europe with lines of commerce and democracy.
they work to avoid war, and aspire to restrict and roll b k back. every act of cruelty and oppression that we see around the world shows our work is never done. we may not be able to e lip name man's ka psty to do evil, so we must possess the means to defend ourselves. but among those nations like my
own that hold nuclear stockpiles, we must have the courage to escape the logic of fear and pursue a world without it. we may not realize this goal in my lifetime but persistent effort can roll back the possibility of catastrophe. we can chart a course that leads to the destruction of these stockpiles. we can stop the spread to new nations and secure deadly materials from fanatics. that is not enough, we see that even the cleanest rifles and barrel bombs can serve up violence on a terrible scale.
we must change our mind-set about war itself. so prevent conflict through diplomacy and drive to end con flicks after they have begun. to see our growing independence. to define our nations not by our capacity to destroy, but by what we build. perhaps above all, we must reimagine our connection to one another as members of one human race. for this, too, is what makes our species unique. we're not bound by genetic code to repeat the mistakes of the past, we can clear, we can
choose, and we can tell our children a different story. one that describes a common humanity. one that makes war less likely. and cruelty less easily acceptable. we see the stories. the woman who forgave the pilot that flew that plane that dropped the atomic bomb. she realized what she really hated was war itself. the man who sought out families of americans killed here because he believed their loss was equal to his own. my own nation's story began with simple worlds. all men are created equal and
endowed -- including life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. realizing that ideal has never been easy. even within our own borders, even among our own citizens, but staying true to that story is worth the effort. it is an ideal to be strived for, an ideal that extends across continents and across oceans. the irreducible worth of every person, the insistence that every life is precious. the radical and necessary notion that we are part of a single human family that is the story
that we all must tell. that is why we come to hiroshima. so that we might think of people we love. the first smile from our children in the morning. the gentle touch from a spouse over the kitchen table. the comforting embrace of a parent. we can think of those things and know that those same precious moments took place here, 71 years ago. those who died they are like us.
ordinary people understand this i think. they do not want more war. they would rather that the wonders of science be focused on improving life and not eliminating it. when the choice is made by nations, when the choices made by leaders reflect this simple wisdom, then the lesson of hiroshima is done. the world was forever changed here. but today, the children of this city will go through their day in peace.
what a precious thing that is. that's worth protecting. and then extending to every child, that is the future we can choose. a future in which hiroshima and nagasaki are known not as the dawn of atomic warfare, but as the start of our own moral awakening. >> so you're listening to president obama making those remarks as the first sitting u.s. president to visit the hiroshima memorial there. it is located right there in the
hiroshima peace memorial park. as you can see in the background of the president. therefore the skeletal ruins of the once building known as the hiroshima prefecture industrial hall. it was an arts and industrial visit. you may have noticed the peace flame, that was lit back in the 1960's. the task of that flame not only to honor the victims is also to be lit until the day that this planet is free of nuclear weapons. right now, we are watching as the prime minister shinzo abe of japan is making his remarks, and i don't know if we have the proper translation, if you guys can let me know if we can listen in. >> translator: i expressed gratitude and respect for all the people in both japan and the
united states who have been committed to reconciliation for the past 70 years. 70 years later, those who fought each other so fiercely have become friends, bonded in spirit. and they have become entrusted in friendship, deep between us. the japan/u.s. alliance which came into the world has to be an alliance of hope for the world. so i appealed in the speech, one year has passed since then. this time, president obama for the first time as leader of the united states paid a visit to hiroshima, the city which suffered the