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in california right now. where he mentioned hillary clinton's attack on his foreign policy today. we will bring you donald trump's response to hillary clinton. hillary clinton gave a serious, 35-minute speech, carried live in its entirety by three capable networks, including this one. it was a world tour of foreign policy issues. but it was at times, funny. because it was as much about donald trump's foreign policy as hillary clinton's. and the former chief of staff, and madeleine albright will join our discussion tonight. and donald trump offered a couple of tweets during hillary clinton's speech that contained no evidence that he understood a word of the speech. >> this isn't reality
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television, this is reality. we cannot put the security of our children, and grandchildren in donald trump's hands. donald trump's ideas aren't just different, they are dangerously incoherrent. just a series of bizarre rants, personal feuds and outright lies. he says he has foreign policy experience, because he ran the miss universe pageant in russia. he said, i know more about isis than the generals do, believe me. you know what? i don't believe him. a trump presidency would embolden isis. there is no risk of people losing their lives if you blow up a golf course deal. do we want his finger anywhere near the button? this election is a choice between two veteran differeisio.
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one that is angry and afraid, and based on the idea that america is weak and in decline. the other is hopeful, generous, and confident in the knowledge that america is great, just like we always have been. >> this is "the last word on campaign 2016." >> hillary clinton said, that you have not heard a democratic candidate say about a republican nominee. >> i believe that the person that the republicans nominated for president cannot do the job. he is not just unprepared. he is temermentally unfit to hold an office that requires
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immense responsibility. donald trump didn't seem to realize that his tweets, during the speech seemed to confirm his point that he is temperamentally unfit for the president. the first trump tweet said -- >> then, donald trump tweeted, crooked hillary, too much failure in office. people will not allow four years of this. >> i watched the speech, it was pathetic. so sad to watch. she is up there, and supposed to be a foreign policy speech. it was a political speech. it had nothing to do with foreign policy. he made a political speech, it
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was a pathetic deal. >> joining us now. andy card, president of franklin pierce university, and former chief of staff for george w. bush. and the associate editer for the "washington post." >> so far in the speech that he is still giving in response to what hillary clinton had to say today. it was a political speech, it wasn't any good. that is after a 35-minute, hard-hitting speech against him. were you surprised that donald trump in his campaign didn't come up with any response to that speech at all? >> well, frvel, i think hillary clinton's speech was very political. i don't think it was a foreign policy speech. it was a speech they could have given. i agreed with a lot of the things that she said. she was criticizing donald
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trump, most of the time. it was not a policy speech from hillary clinton on what she would do. she didn't say how she would do things differently from barack obama. or differently than what is taking place right now. we know most americans are not happy with what is happening in foreign policy right now. she didn't offer any future. she did criticize donald trump. it was a political speech. >> today, an extremely well-craft and well-delivered broad side -- >> i agree with that descript n description. i agree with the speech. the speech did attack donald trump in a way that he earned the attack. i don't think it was a substantive foreign policy speech that i was lead to
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believe that secretary clinton would be giving. it was a broad side attack of donald trump. i think he invited the attack. it was a political attack. >> also said about this speech, it was a coherrent internationalist -- >> it was a political speech. in an effective way. hillary clinton had a big lift in this speech. not to make it sound too padantic and in a policy sense. her strength going forward is that she is experienced. she has been secretary of state. she has been there. i think the difficulty for her is not to get bogged down in the details of foreign policy. what surprised me about the speech was the political tone
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and the zingers in it. it had lines like a comedy roast. those that you play at the beginning of the show. bizarre rants, personal feuds, lines that will stick. hillary clinton was, she kept calling him donald. informal tone. more relaxed, than i think she has been in many recent speeches and debates. it seemed to me, she was trying to find a way to deliver her core message, i have been there, i know how to do this. i am experienced in foreign policy, in a way that had a lot more zip. i thought that the delivery, the political side, as andy said, i thought it was impressive. trump's response, in the speech you played, in that performance, folks, you know, that she is
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doesn't look presidential. anyone who saw the speech and then sees trump, can make the comparison for themselves. she has more presidential affect than he did. >> imagine hillary clinton in a life or death situation in the situation room, making war decisions, participating in things you participated, on the right-hand of the president. you were with the president on 9/11. can you imagine donald trump in the situation room, and what do you feel when you do. >> i can't imagine donald trump being the president of the united states, the way he has been acting. i think a real president has to do a different job than the one that donald trump is demonstrating that he thinks he could do as president.
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i thought that hillary clinton's speech baited donald trump to be donald trump. he took the bait. i don't think that donald trump demonstrated limz to be the real president of the united states yet. i want him to show me how he would be a real president of the united states. he hasn't convinced me yet. i am not pleased with hillary clinton. i don't want four more years of barack obama. she did nothing to demonstrate she will do anything differently than barack obama. i am frustrated by both candidates, no donald trump i don't think has demonstrated the temerment yet, that he would need to be an effective president of the united states. i am willing to give him a chance to do it. >> listen to more of what hillary clinton said today, about president use of nuclear
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weapons. >> this is a man who said that more countries should have nuclear weapons, including saudi arabia. it is no small thing when he suggests that america should withdraw our military support for japan. encourage them to get nuclear weapons, and said this, about a war between japan and north korea. i quote, if they do, they do. enjoy yourself, folks. i wonder if he realizes he is talking about nuclear war. >> one of the things that media has to deal with, he has so many things so fast in a course of a day, he can make those comments about nuclear weapons and be on to something else it is
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difficult to catch up. hillary clinton putting a close-up camera on them. what was your reaction to that? >> she did it effectively. this is a preview of what will be one of her most powerful arguments. she needs to engage what i would describe as the fear factor. she needs to make voters worry, they won't be safe if donald trump is president. i thought the image, does he even understand this would be nuclear war? with this glib comments on foreign policy, does he get how serious this is? i think her job is to deepen that through the campaign if she is the nominee. people are nervous.
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the lyndon johnson campaign, you couldn't trust this guy with his finger on the button. she began to get to that idea, she has a lot to use. so many sound bytes, so many tweets and statements, a lot of material for her to work with. >> i want to get your reaction to paul ryan. i don't know what you call it. i will use the word endorsement. he said he will vote for donald trump, he said it in the quietest possible way. in a tweet, while hillary was giving her speech. in the local newspaper, we agree on enough things, i will vote for donald trump. what was your reaction to the
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spear's move on donald trump today? >> i don't think that paul ryan is not enthuds on trump t he does not think that hillary clinton should be president. he is a republican, that is not going to vote for hillary cli clinton. i don't think she is the right person to be president of the united states, and i have grave concern about donald trump. i am hoping that hillary clinton will do something more than she has done so far to demonstrate that she would do things differently, than have been done in the recent past. and donald trump will wake up, this isn't a reality tv show, he is running to the president of the united states, and the free world. >> if donald trump manages to
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change your mind, come back and tell us how he did that thank you very much for joining us. >> madeleine albright will what donald trump saida in his speech in california about hillary clinton. # you can worry about them. you can even choose a car for them. (mom) honey, are you ok? (child) i'm ok. (announcer vo) love. (mom) we're ok. (announcer vo) it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. did your 22-page insuranceand you nepolicy say, "great news. you're covered?" no. it said, "blah blah blah blah..." the liberty mutual app with coverage compass makes it easy to know what you're covered for
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right. right? the story was a fraud. in fact, i saw the women, i said, that is great news for me. i read this stuff, i said, man, i can't believe she would say t or she would say it you had carry, she said, no way, i didn't say that roan. she said, donald trump was a great guy t treated me great. you had all these women, one woman -- >> donald trump wandered back into incoherrent. we should have a warning, if you go live to donald trump, you will hear lies what. is going on there? >> if you can hear me, we are in the middle of protests, if we
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scroll around, you will be able to see. the police officers formed a line now, between the protesters and some of those still walking late to the rally. it started a long time ago. we have hundreds of protesters, started off a small group. peaceful group. once a couple of groups marched in together, and joined, it became what you are seeing now. they have started to yell, not only anti-trump chants, yelling about the police. antipolice chants. that is what happened. we see this a lot. in the middle of some of the protests t turns from anti-trump to anti-police. we will see, so far, the police have been holding the line. not pushing much. eventually, that will change. eventually, they will say, we need you to back off the sidewalk, and move. that is when we sometimes see
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that is never going to happen. >> the president is not doing so well the funchlths look at north kor korea. how many young guys, he was 26, 25 when his father died, take over the tough generals, it is amazing, when you think of it he is the boss. incredible. >> joining us for the last word, madeleine albright. served under president clinton, she is a supporter for hillary clinton for president. your reaction to what we heard donald trump saying. vladimir putin gets an a. for leadership. >> it is great to be on the show. i find that fact that trump admires people like putin, who is a kgb officer, allowing no
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freedom in his count reese. and it is stunning, very troubling. in terms of somebody who is running for president of the united states. people listen to what he says i am troubled by it i travel abroad all the time. people can't understand, when someone running for president can be so completely irresponsible in what he says. i was listening to what david and andy were saying about secretary clinton's speech. i think she did a fascinating job in combining the political part of this with a substantive foreign policy speech. she talked about what has to be done at home. how important alliances are. how clear we need to be with our
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adv adversaries. the zingers, she made clear that donald trump is dangerous for the united states and for the world. >> did you have any input into this speech? the first lady, and when i was secretary, and then, when i was senator. she is the best prepared person ever to run for the presidency. i think she showed that. and her xabltd of dealing with somebody, or describing somebody that could be in the situation room. i thought it was interesting,
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when you had your conversation with andy, i have been in the situation room. these are really, really hard decisions. and you cannot have somebody in there i teach a course on decision making. donald trump would flunk my course. >> you are comparing four years of hillary's failure really in secretary of state to, advance our relationships in the world. i can't think of a single nation other than cuba, possibly iran, where relationships were better
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today than seven or eight years ago. at least with donald trump, you don't have the experience in diplomatic circles, someone who tells it like it is, do exactly what he said he will do. >> and tucked in the middle of that t our relations are better with cuba and iran that is not something you hear from other republicans, that sounds like what will be the plan of attack on foreign policy. >> i can't wait to see fred and tell him how wrong he is. the bottom line is.
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>> i think i do think that people need to listen to how complicated the world is. we need somebody that actually knows where the countries are, and understands what the leadership in those countries is showing, and that has some sense about the difficulties of making decisions, and who will listen to what the military and our diplomats have to say. i don't know how to say this lawrence. i am appalled at the things that donald trump says, when i am
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abroad, and have to tell people, no, no, this isn't going to happen. i am troubled by some of the things that a very good friend of mine, fred malik sds, people are listening to the way we are reacting to the ridiculous, dangerous nonsense that donald trump is saying. >> donald trump mentioned in his speech tonight, he has made passing references, to secretary clinton's e-mail at the state department as if that is all you have to know about her service at the state department. you were the first secretary of state in the e-mail era no other had an option to be near e-mail in the office. you never used e-mail. colin powell did, and condoleeza rice, not using e-mail at the state department. is that what you would advise secretaries to do. do it the old fashioned way?
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>> i think it is important to use new technology. i am glad i didn't. i actually invented the diplomatic conference call. we all got to know each other well that way. i do think that the issue is certainly out there. secretary clinton has said she made a mistake. nothing about the e-mail issue. genuinely danger. >> former secretary of state madeleine albright. an honor to have you here. >> thanks for giving me the last word. >> thank you. >> how the clinton campaign war room seized the day with a foreign policy speech. foreign policy speeches are not usually the way you grab the news cycle in politics.
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jurisprudence, like no other candidate in history would have said anything wild like that we are not covering the speech live. we are waiting for him to say something about the hillary clinton speech on foreign policy. has he mentioned the big endorsement he got quietly today from paul ryan? >> that low key endorsement from ryan snuck in. donald trump has not mentioned it tonight. he talked about clinton. he has talked talked to. why does it matter that paul ryan will infact vote for him this fall? ryan is sending a signal to the rest of the party to get behind the billionaire businessman.
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8 in 10 republicans, since donald trump became the presu t presumptive nominee, you look at the bush family, mitt romney. rick snyder saying he will stay on the sidelines. ryan, i am told by sources, made the decision, earlier this week to go ahead and endorse trump. the trump team found out the same way, when ryan tweeted about it this morning, and op ed, around the same time clinton was taking the stage in san diego to do her speech. there is no word if ryan will campaign with him, and raise money with him. it indicates the strength of paul ryan's endorsement. what brought ryan into the tent here? i am told that one of trump's top aides played a role in that.
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lawrence? >> thank you very much. coming up, how the clinton campaign war room seized the day today with a foreign policy speech. i had a wonderful time tonight. me too! call me tomorrow? i'm gonna send a vague text in a couple of days, that leaves you confused about my level of interest. i'll wait a full two days before responding. perfect! we're never gonna see each other again, will we? no-no. wouldn't it be great if everyone said what they meant? the citi double cash card does. it lets you earn double cash back. 1% when you buy and 1% as you pay. the citi double cash card. double means double.
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crooked hillary said, donald trump, his finger on the button. i didn't want to go into iraq, folks, she wanted to go into ir iraq, and destabilize the middle east that is what she did. >> moments ago, he did finish that speech in california. now, it is time for tonight's war room. the clinton campaign war room. they put their candidate on the attack against donald trump on foreign policy, after studying the polls, showing that foreign policy is one of donald trump's big weaknesses. the wall street journal shows a huge lead against donald trump on foreign policy. 56% say clinton would be better
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at handling foreign policy. hillary clinton hit that vulnerability hard today. >> imagine him deciding whether or not to send your spouses or children into battle. imagine if he had not just his twitter account in his disposal when he is angry, but america's entire arsenal. do we want him making those calls? who lashes out at the smallest criticism. do we want his finger anywhere near the button? >> with 159 days left for the war room, joining us from the war room, msnbc, and ben, who has been in president obama's war rooms. we saw, from the video we just saw, made the mistake of taking
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hillary clinton's phrase, saying finger on the button and saying it with that wild trump voice at a wild trump rally, exactly the frame hillary clinton wants you to think about, when you are think bulldog his finger on the button. >> she wants you to think of him in the situation room. to see what would come with it. if i was in the clinton campaign war room, i would be happy. it felt like the opening of the general election. the most devastating critique, a lot of kwis whether or not clinton would be able to take her cree teak to trunchlgs she did it in his own words tonight. that made it so effective. >> can you imagine any other campaign war room, watching hillary's speech today, sending
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the republican candidate out on that stage, with literally, nothing to say about the speech? not one response to the speech? >> no, i couldn't imagine doing it. it is something that has been unique to the trump campaign. if i could enter the war room for a second. they did send her out, well-anticipated speech. well sdlirveed. far-reaching. it put up a lot of what donald trump said about foreign policy, and you know, highlighted some of the things he said. if i were in her war room, i would be happy. she won the day. donald trump, i was listening to his speed earlier. he is effective in knocking, fighting back. mocking her. i agree with you, i would cringe he used the term finger on the
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bu button. as trump did she, she did support the iraq war. bernie sanders people don't like. she has to keep them in line. she did involve herself in libya. it is a haven for terrorists. so, her theory is, she is competent in foreign policy, knows a lot about it. depending on your point of view, as record of secretary and state. this is seen as a third. >> listen to what hillary said about donald trump. >> making trump our commander in
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chief, would undo all the work that republicans and democrats have done over many decades, to make america stronger and more security. >> undo the work that republicans and democrats have done. she was speaking to andy card. a republican on who did some of that work. >> to reach moderate republicans, to reach independence, turn out the obama coalition, donald trump has broken embracing our enemies, questioning our allies, dismantle nato, dismantling the russians, she will be a stable president.
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walking down a main roadblocking traffic. this is something that the officers haven't prepared for, i haven't seen police in several minutes, a couple of trump supporters were walking near the protesters, and they were surrounded, and at one point, i was standing next to this trump supporter, they started throwing bottles and eggses, she was hit several times in the face. videotaping it, the splatter was hitting me as well. here we have somebody else. it looks like a trump supporter, they are yelling at him, antitrump things, and you see them throwing cones, and this is what we have been seeing for the past 30 minutes or so. this is what has happened after several rallies. we will walk toward them to see what is going on. after a while, once the rally is underway. it turns into more of a
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anti-police, than anti-trump, maybe anti-trump and anti-police. there are other things going on in this protest. >> how many people are left? are most people leaving the area? >> reporter: no, i would say this is the most protesters we have seen so far. it started out with of course, a few dozen, then we had a big group of a couple of hundred. then we had another protest group that joined n most of those seemed to be here. if we go to the left. we can see down the block, we have maybe a hundred, two hundred. and if we turn around, going back the other way. you can see another couple of hundred down there. it stretches all the way down to the next light. that is where the police that is where the police officers are.
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it has been noisy, there have been a few things thrown around. eggs. jacob reported to us. and jacob is back with us now. jacob, what is the situation there? are people moving away, leaving the area? >> reporter: no, in fact, as they walk around, they are targeting trump supporters. here, another one. we have a fight here. they are -- he got punched in the face. knocked in the back, now they are knocking him to the ground. and they are this trump supporter is hit over -- said he is not backing down. we have a couple of fights going on at the same time. i am not sure what you are seeing here, i am watching
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peop people, following them down the street. we are now a couple of blocks away from where the protest started. where the venue was. and another area try to run and catch up to them. and the answer s most protesters have not left. a lot of the protectors seemed to have gone. not this time. this is the most protectors i have seen hang around when it is violent like this.
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>> it seems that trump supporters ran far enough away that they have escaped. at this point, in front of the hilton hotel. on the other side of the hotel, where another trump supporter was hit in the face with eggs. >> as i said earlier in one of the live shots, the officers that we were with, are now several blocks away. we have seen it, after the rally is finished. when the trump protesters and supporters find themselves away from the venue, the police are not always prepared for that now, we see officers, we will walk over here.
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>> in tucson, arizona, in san diego, 20 minutes from the border, just last week, and elsewhere. now f ru seeing this, officers patrol truck. earlier, a couple of protesters were kicking on it. it is backing away from the protesters. behind me, behind where the camera is, there are hundreds of protesters, maybe 300 or so. as you can tell, the police officers are far out-numbered here. as is usually the case.
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