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most stunning upset in modern presidential history. for all intents and purposes, clinton's speech will be the end of a public service career that has spanned decades starting in 1979 when she became first lady of arkansas. we will also be getting a statement from president obama today. this will be the first time we hear from him since last night's results as well. we also know that president obama will be welcoming president-elect trump tomorrow at the white house for their first face-to-face meeting since the election. meanwhile, trump taking to his favorite platform twitter, echoing his speech, posting, the forgotten man and woman will never be forgotten again. >> for those who have chosen not to support me in the past, of which there were a few people, i'm reaching out to you for you guidance and your help so that we can work together and unify our great country.
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>> our political team has been up all day, all night, still with us this morning. 71 days to go now until inauguration day. we start with nbc's kristen welker. good morning to you. >> craig, good morning. we are awaiting secretary clinton's remarks. i anticipate she is going to try to strike a note of unity as she tries to help the process of starting to move this country forward. of course, this has been a deeply divisive race. a lot of ugly rhetoric on both sides. so i think what you're going to hear from her is someone who tries to start to bridge the divide. the campaign hasn't given us any official read-out of what she's going to say but based on recent remarks that she's making, that is a good indication of what we might hear from her. a little bit of a scene setter. we are waiting outside here and we're watching a steady stream of volunteers, supporters, snatche er staffers who enter this hotel. they feel as though collectively
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they weren't able to achieve what they were hoping for, not only to get the first woman elected president but of course everything that secretary clinton was fighting for. very striking moment last night when secretary clinton conceded to donald trump but didn't do so publicly. the thinking behind that, although we haven't heard from the campaign, it seems she just wasn't prepared for this stunning loss. so just moments from now, craig, we will be hearing from her for the very first time, craig, back to you. >> kristen welker in midtown. again, we are expecting to hear from hillary clinton roughly 30 minutes from now. andrew mitchell on the phone also at the new yorker hotel as we await hillary clinton. ann, no other way to describe this, the clinton campaign got the wind knocked out of them. what else happened last night? >> they completely underestimated the white rural angry vote, as did all of us. they actually produced a good chunk of votes out of city,
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which they needed to, 450,000, only a little less than what obama produced, but they completely underestimated the surge of trump's voter, rest of pennsylvania for one example. they did not take into account the third party vote, which certainly bled considerable number of votes from them in pennsylvania, although the green party probably took more from them and the libertarian party took also some from trump. but there was a healthy chunk, couple hundred thousand, third party votes in both states. those votes, she could have squeezed it out, squeak the through. the fact is their own polling predicted straight through yesterday and into the night they would win michigan, wisconsin and pennsylvania and that just didn't happen. they always knew ohio was a long shot and iowa wallace pretty much lost. then thought they could pull through carolina. the calculations just were all off.
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polling that was badly rated. a message that side-tracked in this last year and a half from the get-go by the e-mail controversy. only reinforcing people's concerns about her trustworthiness. going on the attack against donald trump. which probably took him down a notch or two but also drove up her own negatives. not connecting well enough to people and certainly to millennials. some of the indicators we saw in those early primaries in new hampshire when she lost by 20 points to bernie sanders. just a lot things that they overlooked, that we overlooked, the media paid far too much attention, i believe, and a lot of other analysts believe, to donald trump, with endless coverage of his rise, speeches. entertaining perhaps, compelling. maybe good for ratings. i don't know. i don't know what calculations go into those decisions.
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but hillary clinton was traveling around on a listening tour, trying to talk about the opoid crisis in iowa and new hampshire and what to do about economic challenges at home. >> andrea, it sounds like you're saying perhaps she was not covered fairly. >> i'm not saying not fairly. i don't think she got as much exposure during the primary. during the general election, i think absolutely fairly. and there was tough coverage on her, tough coverage on him. i think she was pretty much ignored during the flurry of attention last summer to donald trump, which was a shiny new object, i have to say. she was an afterthought. the brpd primary race certain lip bled a lot of attention, a lot of energy away from her that she might have focused elsewhere. bernie sanders was tapping into something and hillary clinton,
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in converting on trade and trying to move left, only took something further away from her own authenticity, and that hurt her as well. so there were a lot of problems that added up. and what we also learned is that president obama's popularity, undeniable, is not transferable. there is a big story also for this president, an historic president who has a deep ingrained and completely understandable, just like for donald trump, based on trump's involvement in the birther movement, the origins of the birther movement, the delegitimization of barack obama, michelle obama spoke to that in the convention speech. he was campaigning his heart out, as was michelle obama, in an unprecedented way to try to hand off to his successor for his own legacy, for hillary clinton, a former rival, for the idea, values he believes in and
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also because what he believes is the racism and misogyny of donald trump. now to see the gracefulness and attention to democratic tradition that is going to inspire i believe his statement today and his invitation to the white house tomorrow and the way he handles this transition in a completely professional way is a testament to our founders and to democracy and to the character of barack obama but it has to be terribly painful. >> andrea mitchell, do stand by for me. i'd love to come back to you once we hear from hillary clinton. expecting that to happen roughly 20 minutes from now. with me now, jacob rascon, mark murray as well. jacob outside trump tower. let me start with you. we know that there's this meeting happening right now with senior staff. what more can you tell us about that meeting? what more can you tell us about
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the president-elect's day? >> no doubt talking about the future, certain positions. i talked yesterday to senator session, asked him if he had been offered any position. he said he had not but he said he would be happy to do whatever donald trump asked him to do. i asked the same thing to rudy giuliani and others. no doubt they're being considered for a variety of positions. we don't believe trump is going to leave trump tower today per the pool. though knowing donald trump anything could happen at this point. i talked to staff last night during the party who admitted to me we did not believe that this was going to happen. of course, there were some who say they always believed it from day one. but it was interesting to hear from some staff and aides who said things like, can you believe this is happening? of course, we're also hearing from voters. i've been keeping in touch with dozens of people who are telling me, we knew this would happen, we knew the polls were wrong, we knew we'd beat the media, the
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elite class, all of this. donald trump no doubt taking it all in, inside of trump tower. again, as of now, we don't expect to see him today. >> all right, jacob, stand by as well. we'll come back to you. hallie jackson, kellyanne conway has been all over television, campaign manager for donald trump. what did she say that we all missed? >> i think she saw what somebody like a corey lewandowski, his original campaign manager what corey saw right back in the beginning, which was an energy, this sort of undefinable, unknowable sort of ephemeral feeling. we're in a age of data and athatly tathat ly t analytics. but they went on, especially early ornn, gut. they felt like they were tapping into something. the conventional wisdom is fe
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feelings don't matter in politics. but i think the trump campaign was convinced they were defiantly confident in the last few weeks before the election they would do better than everybody thought they would and here we are. >> mark, a lot of attention has been paid over the last 12 hours or so to polling. how do it be that so many pollsters in this country got it so wrong in so many places? we're not just talking florida, we're talking wisconsin, we're talking michigan, pennsylvania. >> pennsylvania. >> yeah, how did you guys blow it so bad? not you but -- >> almost everyone blew it, includie ining republicans in t own internal polls did not see a path to victory for trump. we were privy to some of their numbers. none of it actually ended up playing on election night. i would argue there was a little bit of a geographical difference. some battlegrounds that we
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totally missed the mark, michigan, pennsylvania. pennsylvania polled throughout this election season. florida was always seen as a very close contest and that was still a one-point race. and what we also did end up seeing, hillary clinton ended up still performing well in the virginias, the colorados. she ended up -- won california by a large margin. in some area, the performance was where we expected it. the biggest miss was the rust belt. i would argue one thing we ended up seeping was andrea mitchell made the point the rural vote in some rust belt states were things no one really modeled and it hurt hillary clinton where she almost died a death by a thousand cuts by just these huge margins in rural areas in these parts of the state. >> you spent a lot of time covering trump over the last year. so is there a significant difference between the donald trump that we have all come to
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know on television and in newspapers? via twitter? is there a difference between that donald trump and a president donald trump? >> i think so. a couple points. number one, we're about to find out. number two, i think when you look at the journey that donald trump has been on since this campaign started. remember, i started back last july, covering all of the other republicans, and when he became the nominee, i ended up covering donald trump. we've gotten the full spectrum of experiences in this campaign on the gop side. one of the things that has remained consistent has been donald trump's defiance of all of the stuff that people on cable news didn't talk about, right, that people in newspapers didn't talk about. he watches it. he looks at it. but he does what he wants to do. remember what the phrase was, let trump be trump? we've been hearing it for a long time. they let trump be trump. will there be a difference with a presidential -- i do think that trump's journey, part of it he has soured on the media more
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than we thought -- or not more than we thought, that's incorrect phrasing. thing more than he had originally. in the begin, he was media friendly. you could catch him at moments. he's still doing that obviously. i think he has seen what has happened when the media sort of starts to look critically at things like his charity for example, his charitable foundation and maybe "the washington post," right? so what will a president trump look like? he's had moments in this campaign where he has been presidential. i think you saw one last night. he's also had moments where he hasn't been at all. that's one of the questions you'll see answered. we'll see how tomorrow's meeting goes at the white house. >> oh, to be a fly on that wall. >> or modern era, like a go pro on a helmet, that's ideal. >> i don't know if we're talking about the modern era, i know we're running out of time, so much talk about data, so much talk about ground game, so much talk about all that stuff. you know, yesterday we had a number of clinton supporterses on who, again, data, data, data.
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how much is that is garbage at this point? >> well, look, numbers do matter. you have to know if you're banking votes and how to do it and you have computers and great models to do it. kind of argue that we got so used to doing was the data-driven obama campaign. and whether that same apparatus could be transferred to somebody else. what we've actually seen, democrats did great as a party over the last eight years when barack obama name was on the ballot. in '08, in 2012. when his name wasn't on the ballot in 2010, 2014 and this election season, they didn't do that well. >> we'll spend some time talking about the future of the democratic party as well. when you look at their bench. mark murray, good to see you, get some sleep. hallie jackson, no sleep for you. you're joining us at 1:00. a lot of coffee. a lot of coffee. we are keeping a very close eye on "wall street journal" right
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now. reaction to last night's stunning election results. there has been a lot of folks predicting the market would bottom out. that has not happened. in fact, the opposite appears true. you can see there, the down is up slightly. we can also tell you nasdaq and the new york stock exchange also, also up as well. experts say the uncertainty was due to investor uncertainty about a trump presidency. now appears wall street's starting to digest this seismic shift. stocks back in the green. we are keeping an eye on these numbers for you throughout the day here at msnbc. hillary clinton again expected to make her concession speech roughly 15, 20 minutes from now. clinton expected to depart her new york hotel any moment now. when that happens, we will bring it to you live. first though, how did the trump campaign pull off the victory that very few predicted? we'll talk to rnc communications
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live look right now outside the hotel here in new york city, just a few blocks from here, where we are expecting to hear hillary clinton concede this election. she's going to be offering public concession speech. this will likely be the last such speech of her political career. when that happens, we will bring it to you live. meanwhile, across town, president-elect donald j. trump huddling with his closest advisers to form a government. things will be moving very quickly for him. he will be sworn in just 71 days from now. word a short time ago that some transition office space is being made available in washington,
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d.c. not far from his new home, 1600 pennsylvania avenue. steve cortez is a member of trump's national hispanic council. head of trump's national hispanic advisory council. first, congratulations. >> it was certain he a big victory for our campaign but more importantly a very big victory for the american people and specifically for the american worker who i think felt like they'd been forgotten and they're forgotten no more. >> be honest here, did you guys see a victory like this? >> no, i'll be perfectly honest. i thought we would win, bub i thought it would be a lot closer than it was. i think that speaks to what i just mentioned, the disenleashenment out there. this is a wonderful economy if you have already made it. the rest of us haven't done so well. this is really -- it's been a muddle-through economy of slow growth, of obamacare insurance costs exploding and people are stressed and they are looking for answers. so i think donald trump, what he did, president-elect trump, first time i've said that on
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air, what he did, number one, he spoke to their anxiety. he also offered a solution and here's the way forward. here's the way toward growth and security. clearly the people bought his message. >> is he going to build that wall? >> i believe he is. you know, i don't know, to me the wall doesn't necessarily have to be -- this is not up to me but it doesn't have to be sea to shining sea, a complete physical barrier. i think in many ways met for call that we're going to get control of our border. whether that's a complete etafis the entire stretch, i'm not sure. >> i want to bring in sean spice, rnc communications director, standing by for us at trump tower. all smiles this morning no surprise there. congratulations to you, mr. spicer. >> thank you, craig. >> mr. trump has pledged to shake things up in his first 100 days. this is just a sample of what he has pledged to do. hang on, let's play a sample of what he has pledged to do.
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>> when we win on november 8th -- [ cheers and applause ] and elect a republican congress, we will be able to immediately repeal and replace obamacare. i'll build great et waest wall it under budget, ahead of schedule and have mexico pay for it. >> he's also talked about renegotiating nafta, pulling out of the ttp. ways the first order of business? >> i think probably getting a little bit of sleep. we were up until -- some of us still haven't slept yet. this has been a really great moment for the campaign, for the volunteers. but mostly for america who voted for change last night and got that president, got that republican congress, both the house and the senate, so there's going to be three months of transition and we'll lay out that agenda and policy solutions. but right now, we're going to saver thor that victory.
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>> this has been a downright nasty election. a lot of folks in this country waking up this morning, still angry, mad, frustrated. what is president-elect trump going to do to try and heal some of those deep wounds? >> i think you saw it last night, talking about uniting the country, bringing people together, whether or not they voted for him or not. he's going to speak again, go down to washington, speak with him again. look, elections are tough. you leave everything on the field. i think both campaigns did that yesterday. clinton campaign definitely was a worthy adversary. they left everything on the field. and america spoke. that's the beauty of our democracy. you get your people out there. you leave it at the ballot box. and then you move on until the next election. i think you saw last night donald trump talk about how he wants to be a president for all
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americans. how many he wants to put solutions together to speak to those who felt left behind. and so over the next few days, i think you're going to continue to see more of that kind of tone and speech from donald trump and pence. >> the senior staff meeting either under way or about to get under way there at trump tower, what's happening there? >> well, again, i think it's just getting together and starting to lay out what the next few days, weeks and frankly months are going to look like, to make sure we put that plan together and start the proper transition for a trump presidency. >> what job are you going to take in the white house? >> i'm just -- >> don't you be coy now. >> i'm just excited to be here this morning. last night was euphoric. it was such an honor to be part of this process. and so i'm just taking it one day at a time as everyone else is. >> sounds like an answer that a
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press secretary might give. sean spicer there. i'll let you get into that meeting. sean, thank you, congratulations. i look forward to talking more. what job are you going to take mr. cortes? >> if my wife chimed in, she'd probably say ambassador to some place warm. we live in chicago and it's wintertime. i've believed in the movement. i'm not interested in going to washington, d.c. but i am interested in this movement continuing. this is the beginning. it's the first chapter of what i think is going to be an amazing book of american recovery. >> one of the headlines, if you will, from last night, donald trump, outperforming midromney with latinos in this country. that surprised a lot of people. 65% for clinton, 29% for trump. that's 2% more than mitt romney got in 2012. here's a guy who talked about deportation a lost. he talked about building a wall. how is his message able to
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resonate? >> if there's one thing i personally am most happy about last night is this aspects of last night's vote. >> nothing to go high fiving about. >> but he jououtperformed massively. we had polls in the teens. he doubled expectations in some percentage also and he went up versus mitt romney. that's an important trend here. nobody thought we were going to win the latino vote but the fact there was a nonstop media narrative that trump hate mexicans. i don't think that's remotely true. there was a powerful theme pushed out there by the media and the opposition. despite that, a third of hispanics said, i care far more about economic growth than i do about a few bad poorly chosen words by a candidate. hispanics, i think economic growth is issue number one, two and three and they voted based on that fact. >> steve cortes, thank you. we're still waiting to hear from hillary clinton within the hour. when that happens, we'll bring it to you live. we've also just heard from the white house. president obama will be speaking
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losses in key battleground states spelled doom for hillary clinton's campaign. donald trump captured victory in all battleground contests. we have reports from two of the key states. michigan and florida. nbc's blake mccoy is in grand rapids where donald trump made his final stop late monday night. it apepears as if it may have paid off. >> in the last few days, a lot people considered trump's visit here to be hail marys. they didn't think he had a real chance at winning michigan. but he just needed some way to make the map work. it looks like the last-minute visits did pay off. trump is leading now. michigan is yet to be officially called. but trump is in the lead.
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did much better here than the polls predicted. this is a small business owner. he was a hillary supporter here in grand rapids. how are you feeling this morning with the trump victory? >> i'm totally devastated. the sunny day does not match my mood. >> why's that? >> because we elected a man who is sort of the paragon of the bully culture. he's misogynistic, racist. >> that's been the attack line against donald trump. why do you think he was able to do so well in michigan? >> well, i think there are two reasons. there's a certain percentage of the population, not just in this state but also in the country, who share his, in my opinion, very awful and sort of deplorable opinions. the other piece, though, is i think a lot of people wanted some sort of change. or at least they see him somehow as -- >> being a -- >> because he's not part of the
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establishment that somehow he's going be to the answer with a capital "a." i think they'll be disappointed in the future. >> a sense of what one michigan voter is feeling this morning. we're going to be on the lookout for trump supporters and be on the look for them. trump far surpassing expectations as we've seen in many states across the country, especially here in the upper midwest. >> outperformed in michigan, also outperformed in the sunshine state as well. blake, thank you. let's get to mariana ortencio on the campus. what has been the reaction, specifically among the latino community? >> good morning to you, craig. many latinos here who are undocumented or have undocumented family members, waking up in fear this morning after that donald trump win. undocumented youths like gabby joining us now. gabby, how are you feeling this morning? >> to be honest, i feel a little
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bit upset. but i feel that i have a lot of determination to protect and to fight for our community and our families. >> clearly, a lot of people out there support donald trump's views on immigration. what do you tell people who voted for donald trump based on this issue? >> well, one, i want to say thank you to the latino community for showing up. we did our job. to the trump supporters and those that voted for him, to be our president, my message to them is that we've crossed oceans and deserts to come for an opportunity. because this is the greatest nation. and my message to them is we love this nation as much as we do. and i hope in their world, in their presidency, in trump's presidency, they can find a piece of -- a space for us who are contributing and giving to this community. >> thank you so much, gabby, for joining us today. certainly not all latinos feel this way. as you were mentioning earlier
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in the show, he did get support from the latino community just in the state florida. 33% support. but keep in mind this figure, 11 million undocumented people across this country and their families who are asking themselves one question this morning, will donald trump deliver on his immigration policy. the one policy he launched his entire candidacy on. >> will he round up illegal immigrants, will he build that wall. lots of questions about that immigration policy. mariana in miami, thank you. president obama again has invited president-elect trump to the white house tomorrow. president obama will be making his first public remarks since donald trump was elected. we are expecting to hear from mr. obama at 12:15 this afternoon. we're live at 1600 pennsylvania avenue next with a preview. thanks for the ride around
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president obama is expected to make a statement this afternoon at 12:15. right now, though, a live look here, new york city. that is where hillary clinton is expected to emerge any moment now and head over to the hotel to make her concession speech. we're told that is going to be happening now, a little closer to 11:00. this afternoon, president obama, what will he be saying? we know he called donald trump early this morning to offer congratulations. we know that he has invited him to the white house tomorrow. here's a statement, though, that we did get from the white house. the president invited the president elect to meet at the white house to update him on the transition planning. msnbc's chris jansing at the white house. what do we expect to hear from president obama today and, oh, to be a fly on the wall tomorrow. >> oh, i think this is going to be one of the most formidable
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challenges in his oracle skills. he'll talk about bringing the country together. having said that, remember, he was out on the campaign trail, not the once or twice a week the white house said he would be. as many as three states in a single day. he believed and said very clearly his legacy was at stake. if you take a look at the things already donald trump has said on the campaign trail he's going to pull back, things like immigration reform, obamacare, climate agreement, the iran nuclear agreement. and when you look at his diplomacy first, there's a whole range of international issues that are on the table, including donald trump's criticism of president obama. he's going to have to put all of that aside and find a way to appeal to his supporters, progressives, democrats, all those people who voted for him. some of whom are waking up this morning despendant. i think, you know, tomorrow
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let's just say it's not going to be one of the less awkward meetings that have ever taken place at the white house. >> not just a republican in the white house, republicans kept control the lower chamber. also control of the upper chamber as well. democrats picked up one seat. gop means they hold on. in the house, the republicans retained a significant majority. nbc's kelly o'donnell is in janesville, wisconsin, house speaker paul ryan's home distri district. we're expecting to hear from speaker ryan next hour. do we know if he reached out to president-elect trump? >> yes, he has, craig, the house speaker spoke with trump and pence to offer congratulations. to talk about ways they can move forward together. he referred to pence as his very good friend. and supported and congratulated donald trump on the improbable victory and the really
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remarkable achievement of coming from no elective experience, that big field in the gop primary, all the way to the nomination and now the victory. we expect when speaker ryan is in this room, he will talk about how the voters have made this happen and commend donald trump for that unusual path to the status of being president-elect this morning. that is going to be important because they've had a comb pla cased relationship. as you know, paul ryan did not campaign with donald trump. he did appear with mike pence. help wallace critical at a number of times about some of the rhetoric from trump. but now they have to be partners. the one thing republicans and congress have been wanting is a republican in the white house. someone who could not veto some of their collective ideas. so for paul ryan, this is about sort of turning the paint, trying to work with, now, a republican white house, where perhaps his experience and his policy know how will be useful
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to a white house that has so much to do in this transition period. for paul ryan, it's about embracing donald trump in a way that he can today. embracing the voters that put him there as well. >> kelly o'donnell in janesville, wisconsin, thank you. again, secretary of state, former secretary of state, former senator hillary clinton expected any moment there to speak at the hotel. this is going to be a formal concession speech we are told. the time has moved around a bit. we're told it's going to happen shortly. p here in new york city. a rainy wednesday morning in new york. this is msnbc, the place for politics.
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kristen welker standing by outside the hotel. this is a tweet we're just getting in from president george
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bush, bush 41. barbara and i congratulation donald trump, wish him well as he guides america forward as our next president. his family is in our prayers. we're also told that president bush, bush 41 at least, has also called donald trump to wish him luck as well. it should be noted for purposes of this conversation we're about to have, we don't know if he actually voted for donald trump. we know that bush 44, we also know there was no other republican presidents living that campaigned with him or publicly supported him. it will be work it to see how this dynamic playing out over the next few days. kristen welker standing by. also msnbc political analyst rick tyler, former cruz campaign spokesman, and beverly gage as
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well, associate professor. let me start with you, kristen, standing by, outside that hotel where hillary clinton is expected to speak next hour. you've covered clinton for some time now. what are we expecting to hear from her? and what will she do when this is over? >> well, the second question at this point i think remains a big question mark. we haven't gotten any official guidance from her campaign but i anticipate she will try to strike a note of unity, that she will try to urge the country to come together after what has been a bitter ugly battle over the past 19 months of this campaign. i anticipate her remarks will be brief. i anticipate we won't hear too many attack lines against donald
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trump. she called donald trump to succeed, but her throngs of supporters were there waiting for her. instead, they heard from her campaign chairman who said let's wait until every single vote is cast. then we heard clinton had succeeded to donald trump. it was an interesting choice, one the campaign hasn't explained. but what i'm anticipating is she was stunned last night. i think her campaign was stunned. i can tell you, i was there, craig. a everyone there was stunned. so many of them who have been streaming into this manhattan hotel today and they still have tears in their eyes, craig. they thought she was on the cusp of make history it on the cusp of becoming the first female president, of shattering that glass ceiling. that is why the event was at the center because it has a glass
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ceiling. what ultimately happened is she suffered add stunni eed a stunn. >> kristen welker outside the new yorker hotel. rick, suffice to say you were pretty surprised last night and this morning as well. >> absolutely. i've eaten my share of crow this morning. >> what happened? >> look, i think the polling was wrong for two reasons. one is this device here, much harder to call this device because people would actually charge money. some polls take 20 minutes to do. every pollster writes a predictive model. they have to make some assumptions about who's going to turn out. they base it on previous elections. the problem is is donald trump, his map doesn't look like any other map. it does not look like what a republican map is expected to look like. he won eastern ohio. where jim traficant is from.
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republicans never win that. he won places -- well, the whole state of pennsylvania -- >> there wasn't single poll in wisconsin, there wasn't a single poll in wisconsin that ever had him ahead. >> there might have been one but no, the marquette poll was pretty off. there were some polls but they were all dismissed as outliers. if you looked at the overall trends, you could see the momentum was in trump's favor. some of the polls got it right. those few polls were seen as outliers. majority of the polls got it wrong. they've gotten it wrong now frankly for three cycles. >> should be noted hillary clinton is leading in the popular vote. that's been the case for democrats i think the last five elections. what does that tell you, if anything? >> well, i mean, look, it tells me that generally the country holds what we might think of as kind of a left position or progressive position. and however we might parse that. but i want to talk about this
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polling data. >> sure. >> and that is remember when we were talking about the trump campaign, we were talking about his base support was white, high school educated, working class men? >> yeah. >> but what the exit poll data shows is it's all white folks. it cuts across class. young college educated white men, white suburban women, went for trump. so in some ways, what this reveals is trump's candidacy is, to my mind, white america's last stand. in relation to the glaring demographic transformations that are happening. this is the first generation of folks, right -- >> you think this was a rebuke of multiculturalism? >> i think there's an element to brexit that was all about the changing nature of europe. i think there's an undercurrent here that reflects the browning of america. that it's immediate, that it's experienced and that what we've
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seen over the course of this election cycle is deep racial anguish and anxiety and has been evidenced in the fact we just elected, in my mind, an ill informed racist who is morally and ethically bankrupt. >> it is quite eironic that tomorrow afternoon you'll have the first black president of this country greet a man at 1600 pennsylvania who not long ago said that he was born in kenya. >> right, who was endorsed by the kkk. >> only in america. >> only in america. >> beverly, let me bring into the conversation here. because i do want to pick apart something else that called our attention. i want to put up an exit poll here that's worth noting. 60%, 60% of folks said that they had made up their mind and had decided on a candidate before september. so that means all of these october surprises that we covered breathlessly ad nauseam
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whether it was the access hollywood tapes, the comey letter. 60% of folks said they'd already had their mind made up. >> right, and so a lot of the drama of the last few weeks has been the question of what was going to skew these numbers. as it turns out, this was a pretty stable set of decisions. which is not totally atypical the elections. ways t what's the surprise here is so many people missed it and didn't see it coming. this is i think without question one of the great upsets in american history. we really haven't seen an upset like this since 1948 and that was really just at the dawn of polling. so this is a real repudiation not only of many of the things that the obama administration has stood for but in many ways the entire enterprise of trying to guess and to count in advance of a real election. >> we want to let viewers know
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left side of your screen that is the peninsula where hillary clinton is expected to be departing from any moment now. she'll travel roughly 25 blocks to the new yorker hotel, right side of your screen, inside look there at the new yorker where hillary clinton is expected to publicly concede some time next hour. we see some activity here outside the peninsula hotel. hillary clinton expected to hop into one of those hulking suvs. that's been her second home for so many years. eight years as u.s. senator. two terms as first lady. she has been in ht public eye for a very long time. it will be interesting to see
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what hillary clinton does in her next chapter. >> i think she's been a role model in some ways for young girls around country. we thought even though i wasn't an ardent supporter of hillary clinton, i understood the symbolic significance. >> why weren't you a supporter? >> i think there's a problem when democrats act like republicans. whenever you have a republican and a democrat acting like a republican, more than likely you're going to choose the republican. i think we need a genuine progressive politics. >> you think if bernie sanders wins last night? >> although joe biden is much more complicated than bernie sanders, i think bernie sanders might have given donald trump a run for his money. >> hillary clinton in that van there. making her way. winding her way through the streets of new york city. making her way to the new yorker hotel. where she is expected to give a public concession speech any moment now. excuse me, not any moment now.
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that drive is going to take some time here in new york city even with the police escort. we expect to hear from her next hour. really quickly, rick tyler, mike pence. we know based on what trump has said his role in the trump administration is going to be a bit -- perhaps more along the lines of a dick cheney. what do we know about pence, what kind of vice president do we expect he will be? >> as we've seen in the campaign, pence is steady, thoughtful, doesn't get out ahead of himself. he's been an executive. he has enormous government experience. how government works. the first nonmilitary nonpolitician who has become president. >> we'll take a quick break. hillary clinton expected to speak any moment.
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i'm craig melvin. tamron hall picking things up now. >> thank you, craig. good morning, everyone. coming to you live from our election headquarters in new york. it is a seismic upset. donald trump elected as the 45th president of these united states. it was a trifecta. republicans also maintaining control the house and senate. right now, we are waiting for hillary clinton. these are live pictures. we're waiting for secretary clinton to address her supporters and the nation after this stunning loss. she'll make her remarks at a hotel here in new york. not very far from trump tower in fact. she just left the separate hotel where she spent the night. and should be at the location within minutes we're told. president-elect trump declared victory around 3:00 eastern time this mornin


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