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where does the time go? i want to thank the trump transition. i want to thank kellyanne conway personally for agreeing to come in here and talk to me. i cannot get a lot of republican and republican operatives, let alone people involved in high-level republican politics to have a conversation with me. i know everybody wants blood on the floor. what i want is a way to hash things out in a way that is civil and confrontational when it needs to be, and i appreciate kellyanne conway being willing to have that conversation with me. >> mission accomplished. a civil exchange of ideas. michael moore will join us tonight with his five-point plan for the new year, but first, donald trump tweeted that he wants us to have more nuclear
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weapons, at least that's what we all thought he said. but kellyanne conway just told rachel, she doesn't know what he meant. >> donald trump today signaled he wants more nukes. >> foreign policy by tweet. >> says hours after vladimir putin made up his own vow to beef up russia's nuclear readiness. >> every word matters. strength be the nuclear arsenal, fine. expand it? >> are we going to have another nuclear arms race? that's what it sounds like. >> would it not be better to do away with them entirely? >> all during the campaign, donald trump has dealt with nuclear weapons very loosely, very cavalierly. >> you're talking about a guy running for president wanting to use nuclear weapons. >> super dangerous. >> where does drain the swamp stack up to things to adhere to. >> drain the swamp is in.
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>> newt gingrich begigingrich a he was wrong. >> a very merry christmas. merry christmas. >> trump says he's a fan of jesus, because i like guys who inherit their dad's business and then think they're god. the united states is israel's biggest protector in the world. and israel needs presenting since it is surrounded by neighbors, many of whom would be happy to see the people of israel wiped out. the united states is israel's biggest and often only protector at the united nations, vetoing resolutions condemning israel is something our u.n. ambassadors do routinely, but the united states always has its own issues with israel and american presidents have always been trying to find ways to coax or pressure israel into peace
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negotiations into palestinians, and as frustrated as american presidents can get in their own private negotiations with israel, whenever anyone else criticizes israel, the american response is usually that of a family member that can be tensions within that family, but when someone from outside the family criticizes, well, then the united states is always there to defend israel. and so it was in 2011, when president obama's ambassador to the u.n. vetoed a resolution condemning the construction and expansion of israeli settlements in an occupied palestinian territory. egypt recently introduced another version of that resolution which was scheduled to come to the vote at the united nations today at 3:00 p.m. and this time, the united states had not taken a public position on that resolution. this was clearly a message tole israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu that the united states was frustrated with his refusal to reconsider any aspect on
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building settlements. the obama administration might have hoped that netanyahu would reach out to president obama to ask to formally request that the united states veto that resolution and perhaps in that discussion often something to president obama in exchange. instead, the "new york times" reports that netanyahu reached out to donald trump. at 3:28 a.m. in israel, benjamin netanyahu treated this, the u.s. should veto the anti-israel resolution at the u.n., and then donald trump tweeted the resolution being considered at the united nations security council should be vetoed. nbc news reports that a senior israeli official confirms that the israeli government asked donald trump to weigh in on the united nations vote. by midmorning the vote had been postponed. the "new york times" quotes an unnamed source saying the israelis leaned on the egyptians this morning to postpone the vote, and the egyptians
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basically caved. there is no indication of when the vote will be row schedule scheduled -- rescheduled, if at all. donald trump tweeted the united states must greatly strengthen and expand its nuclear capability until such time as the world comes to its senses regarding nukes. the trump tweet came hours after vladimir putin said we need to enhance the combat capability of strategic nuclear forces, primarily by strengthening missile complexes that will be guaranteed to penetrate existing and future missile defense systems. tonight kellyanne conway was incapable of clarifying whether donald trump intends to increase our production of nuclear weapons, something no president has done since president george h.w. bush. >> we are trying to lead the way
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in reducing the number of nuclear weapons in the world. he's saying we're going to expand our nuclear capability. >> he's not necessarily saying that. >> he did literally say that we need to expand our nuclear cape. >>. >> really our nuclear readiness, be ready for those who also have nuclear weapons. this is what happens. when you say that terrorism, particularly isis, radical islamic terrorists are being contained, the jv team, we don't have to worry about them anymore and people areeing killed in nice, in san bernardino year ago, in paris, in brussels, it doesn't ring true to anybody that they're not advancing. >> what does that have to do with nuclear weapons? >> i'm going to give you the analogy. them saying they're contained and then attacking, proves to everybody who doesn't feel safe
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that they're still trying to do harm. he's putting the world on notice that he will do what he thinks he needs to do to keep us safe and secure. >> you can listen to all of that interview, and you're never going to find a clarification, which rachel repeatedly sought on what exactly did donald trump mean to say about nuclear weapons today. joining us now, ambassador wendy sherman, former u.s. undersecretary of state for political affairs, and a columnist for the daily beast. ambassador sherwood, your reaction to the nuclear weapons comment by donald trump today. what you think it might mean, and how you think it will be interpreted in the world. >> well, i think what we've really heard, lawrence is a great deal of concern today, because in 140 words, donald trump is resetting american nuclear policy in a way that
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risks not only an escalation with russia, but an escalation with the world. and all of the confusion we had during the campaign about whether he was really encoupling japan and south korea to get nuclear weapons or whether he believed that nuclear weapons were dangerous and it was born to build them down, yes, have them as a deterrent while everyone else does of course, but to modernize them of course, not to expand them but to build them down. if that change is taking place, it is an earthquake in the danger and the national security interests of our country. so i'm quite concerned about what he said. he did use the word expand. and if he didn't know what he was saying, then that is of serious concern as well. one can't do national security policy in 140 words. >> jonathan alter. rachel maddow tried mightily and repeatedly to get a
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clarification from kellyanne conway about what donald trump meant in his tweet about nuclear weapons today we don't know anymore about rachel's attempt. kellyanne conway didn't find the words of clarification, she doesn't seem to know what he meant. >> i wouldn't hazard a guess as to what he meant. not only is it dangerous to use 140 words, but in the case of a tweet, it's 140 characters. >> oh, sorry, yes. characters. >> the eidea of dealing with extraordinary complex issues is extraordinarily irresponsible in this manner. the united states as ambassador sherman knows much more than i do, is involved in a very expensive modernization of our nuclear forces. donald trump is ignorant on all these issues. he showed that during the campaign when he wasn't familiar with the fact that our deterrent is based on a triad.
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and it may well be that he's not familiar with the fact that we have what will eventually be a trillion dollar modernization of our nuclear deterrent that president obama launched. so it may be that he actually doesn't want to expand, he just wants to modernize, but neither he nor kellyanne conway were familiar enough with the details to quantify. >> as someone who was deeply involved in the negotiations with iran in stopping their nuclear program, what would you like to say to donald trump if he gave you some time about the state of nuclear weapons in the world, the american government's posture toward them worldwide and the consistent american governoring policy of trying to contain nuclear weapons worldwide, and what that means in terms of the president's public pronouncements on the
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subject? >> i think you make a very good point, thank you for the correction on characters rather than words, quite different, even 140 words might not do it either. i think what i would probably say to the president-elect is this is very serious. this is something that from ronald reagan on forward, on a bipartisan basis, presidents have understood that nuclear weapons are not something that should be heralded. they should be something that are very carefully thought about. that we are talking about weapons that are much more powerful than what was dropped at the end of world war ii on hiroshima and nog suagasaknagas many times more, it would be catastrophic for the united states. so nuclear war is not something that one either, you know, sort of sluffs off or uses as an
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unpredictable tool in national security. we have them as a deterrent when there are others in the world that have them. but in the new star treaty with russia, a country with whom we have difficult and complicated relationships, we all agreed to build down our nuclear stockpiles, because we understood that this would ultimately make the world safer. and i give president obama a lot of credit for setting out an objective which he said he probably wouldn't see in his lifetime and i certainly won't see in mine, but this is very serious business, and as jonathan said, one shouldn't just pop off about this. this should be put forward in a poll say that is fulsome so you know where you're headed and what the stakes are. >> jonathan, in a normal presidency, should the president say something in the among that has worldwide import and the capacity to be misunderstood that presidency would have clarified it fairly quickly,
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within a matter of hours. but certainly, with kellyanne conway scheduled to do a major interview tonight with rachel maddow, they had to know, and kellyanne conway had to know that rachel maddow is our resident expert on this subject. it's the most important thing in the news today. it's the first thing rachel maddow's going to ask you about, what did donald trump mean on this nuclear weapons tweet, and kellyanne conway shows up with nothing. she has nothing clarifying to say about it. that, in itself, is kind of an unprecedented communications session with the new administration. >> very much. and, you know, as you said, they will be doing this every day, because when the united states sneezes, the world catches a cold. it's been that way since world war ii. it will continue to be that way even though other nations are becoming major figures on the world statement. we don't dominate in quite the
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way we used to, we don't get our way in the way we used to, which is something that will prove very frustrating for president trump. and when he gets frustrated we don't know how he acts, but we have been given some idea. you get an escalation of tweets and taunts. this is how wars starts, lawrence is through, if you look at the origins of world war i, for instance, there are a series of miscommunications, taunts, braggadocio, keiser wilhelm insulting his cousins on another throne elsewhere in europe. this is dangerous. and i think anybody who has studied diplomacy from any political persuasion will agree this is not any way to run the foreign policy of the united states. he's not in charge yet, but he will be in a month. >> ambassador sherman, i want to get your reaction to the vote at the u.n. today that was postponed. >> mm-hm. >> couple things. first of all, prime minister
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netanyahu reaching out, apparently reaching out directly to donald trump, askingim to make that statement today that he made early this morning on twitter. that, also, an unprecedented moment in the transition from one presidency to another. >> right. we have had incidents in our history, both with ronald reagan and richard nixon. ronald reagan around an iran negotiation and our hostages in iran and richard nixon around the peace talks, ending the vietnam war where during the election, there were certainly stories about potential, behind the scenes, secret negotiations to affect the outcome of the election, but this is the first time that i can think of where someone who is not the authorized leader of this country to make national security and foreign policy, and people have said to me today it crosses the lean of the logan act, which does not -- it's
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federal law -- does not permit unauthorized individuals to negotiate on behalf of the oust governme -- u.s. government with a foreign government around an issue like this. so whether the logan act applies here or not, it is highly unusual. we have one president at a time. and donald trump is really playing with fire, because, you know, lawrence, we're not talking about just donald trump and barack obama. we're talking about the institution of the presidency of the united states, and i dare say when the moment comes when donald trump isn't going to be president any longer, he will want to make sure that he gets to be president till the very last moment and will be furious to have the person who is going to follow him make decisions or try to affect the outcomes of those decisions. >> but jonathan, this was netanyahu apparently reaching out directly to trump. >> yeah, well, netanyahu, we know, for some time has essentially been a republican,
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an american political terms, that was irresponsible of netanyahu. i think he thinks he's getting somebody who will rubber stamp anything that he wants in the white house. and he, he will. he will get that. israel will be determining u.s. foreign policy in the region, which is not the way it should be. not that we shouldn't be israel's strongest friend and ally in that part of the world, but if we lose any ability to broker between the various states in the middle east, that will not help the national security interests of the united states, and that's what we're moving toward, on top of which, he's nominated as ambassador to israel his bankruptcy lawyer who accused other jews, american jews who don't agree with him on everything, and favor a two-state solution, of quote, being worse than coppos, those
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were the jews who collaborated with the nazis in the concentration camps, so he has no business being our envoy to israel. and i hope that that nomination is defeated. i say that as a citizen, as a jew, i would think that would be outrageous, as a jew, accusing other jews of be being knoting . >> thank you for be being with us. >> thank you, lawrence. coming up, some trump voters could find out that some trump policies could hurt them. apparently they weren't listening or weren't believing what trump shaaid when he ran, michael moore will join us with that and his five things that he wants you to do in the new year. i said, "delivering to you is always a special treat." oh. company, companionship, food... we all need those things. when we get in that spot in life, it's kind of nice to have 'em there.
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properly. and we will not spend $5 billion for a website, okay? remember that. >> that was donald trump in florida last week, a record 6.4 million people have signed up for health insurance on the affordable care act's federal exchange for 2017. and the state with the highest number of enrollees is florida, the place where trump was speaking, with 1.3 million. the next highest tottals come from texas, north carolina, georgia and pennsylvania. those are states that trump won. they seem to be realizing that electing donald trump means he will now take away the health care. one voter in kentucky recently said this, i guess that i thought, you know, he would not do this. he would not take health insurance away, knowing it would affect so many people's lives, i
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mean, what are you to do then if you cannot pay for insurance? joining us now, michael moore, academy award-winning documentary film maker. his latest film is trump land. i read those quotes, and you've talked to them. you've been out there in trump land. >> it's not just michael moore in trump land, we're all there now, lawrence. >> that's right. you spoke to people like this voter i just quoted. here's somebody on obamacare, depending on obamacare, now seems to be realizing, donald trump real shly is going to rep obamacare with that republican congress. >> correct. and i think it's important, people, liberals, people on the left, do not laugh at these individuals. there's the woman i forget in which campaign prior to this said that she wanted the
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government out of her life, and i think she was on social security or medicare. you know, we live in a country where we're not well-educated. our schools, we've left them to rot in many, many areas. we allow the texas state board of education to control what's in our textbooks. so when they try to remove thomas jefferson from the chapter on the enlightenment and get away with it as they did, you know, this is the country we have. and so it's very easy to fool people when you can make them norgt like this.
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of places where like where i live in michigan are going to have, you know, the crap smacked out of them in profound ways. and i feel very bad about that. i don't take any, any joy or glee in seeing how people are going to get their come uppance for voting for trump. i don't want to see anybody suffer. so i guess it's going to have to be our job, my job, hopefully the job of the democratic party to fight the fight so that these people, even the people that voted for trump are protected from him. >> yeah, i mean, michael, he did say things, for example, mexico's going to pay for the wall. i think, surely maybe half, some large number of trump supporters listened to that and thought, that's a great line, i don't think that will ever happen. and they still voted for trump. so that, that could infect a lot
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of other things that donald trump said. i can see how a voter might think, ah, he doesn't really mean it, he doesn't really mean it. he doesn't really mean half of what he's saying up there. and if you're an obamacare recipient, you might want to think he doesn't mean that thing about obamacare. >> right. and republicans aren't the only ones who say that. we believed president obama when he ran for office that guantanamo would be closed during his administration, and i know all the people are now saying, mike, the republicans blocked him and all that. yes, but, you know, we're going to see, now, with trump what republicans do really well, and that is they buck up in a profound way. and they have the courage of their convictions and damn it, they're going to get the job done, and they're going to do it no matter what. and that generally isn't the democrats' way. the democrats' way is i think
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we're all going to be okay. and now we don't need to go to wisconsin for seven months. what's there to do in wisconsin? that's what we have on our side, and that's why we lost, even though we won. and that's why, if the democratic party, if these people who allowed this catastrophe to happen when we had the majority of the americans on our side, if they don't have it together like tomorrow it is going to be one -- i can't say it on basic cable, but come january 21, it's going to be a real legislative bloodbath on capitol hill, and liberals and hillary voters and democrats and just people in general are going to be like, their heads are going to spin when they see just how god trod
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moore. he has a five-point plan for things you must do, must do in 2017. one, visit your member of congress in their local office over the holiday break. two, insist the dnc appoint new progressive leaders, three, form your own rapid response team of four to five people, four, plan on going to the inauguration protests and go to protests all over the country anytime you can. and five, have a plan b. as bad as you that i it's going to be, it's going to be worse. >> we got -- >> they're all home in their districts right now. you can liis rally go downtown and see them. >> the local office is more important than washington, then that member knows you are really from that district and you have a vote there. >> that's right. >> but let's go to the one, the form your own rapid response team of five to ten people, how does that work? >> you, basically, it's very
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easy, a lot of people stop and can, michael, what can we do, what can we do. don't think in large terms like national, there's no time to form some new national organization. you and ten of your family members need to form the, you know, pick the street you live on. you live on oak street in you're the oak street rapid response team, and your job is going to be whatever happens, you're going to be on a call list, a text list, you're going to be on each other's facebook and immediately, we've got to call our member of congress, we have to write a letter, we have to go down to city hall, we have to have our voices heard on this matter. so whatever's going to come up, we don't know everything, because just like we didn't know anything that was going to happen this year, we really don't know how it's all going to play out next year. so you've got to be ready with your core group of people where you're going to act. and if everybody does this. if everybody has five to ten people and name your group, whatever you want to call it,
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you can, you know, you can even make up your own website. it's very easy to do this stuff. and it will, this thing will spread like wildfire, and they won't know what hit them, because it's going to be coming from the grass roots. >> and then that last one about have a plan b, because as bad as you think it's going to be, it's going to be worse. so you have an idea of how bad it's going to be, but even you think it's going to be worse than you think it's going to be, so you can't really imagine how bad it's going to be, i guess. >> that is correct. and you are, you must have passed your existential philosophy course. that is right. it's kind of a downer to end the year, we're in the holiday season now. where everyone's festive. we've got the eggnog out. and here i am saying it's going to be even worse than you think it's going to be, but it
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actually will be, and you've received a trailer, a preview, a coming attraction from president-elect trump. and that has been how he's behaved since the election. you've seen the cabinet he's put together, millionaires and billionaires and generals. and nikki haley. and you've witnessed that he's far more concerned about alec baldwin than what is going on around the world. the tweeting won't stop. listen, he has three addictions, twitter, the red light that's on top of that camera there, he needs to be on tv. expect to see some form of donald trump show on some network. i totally believe this is going to happen now. and, and the rallies. he's going to have to be out there. these three things are not going to stop. and he's not going to be governing a lot, because he's going to be very much, the trump
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you showed at the beginning of the first segment. that's pure television. the way he makes this stuff up about we're going to get rid of obamacare, replace, there's nothing to replace it with. it's like he's sitting at the desk on "the apprentice" talking to meat loaf. he's either going to get tired of the job or screw up in some way, because a malignant narcissist who's also a sociopath, they filter everything through how is this going to be good for me and they end up breaking the law when they do that. so we don't know how this is all going to play out, but it's going to be bad for a lot of people. the people that it's going to be the least bad for, lawrence, are people like you and me, white guys. but if you're muslim, if you're mexican, if you're any kind of an immigrant, if you're african-american, woman, a young person, you know, you could go through all these different groups of people that are going to have it very rough, and it's important for the rest of us to
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stand up for them. if they actually go through with th muslim registry, i'm going to make sure my name is one of the first names on that registry, and i want everyone to sign up on that registry, claim you're a muslim, fill this up out of protest so they won't necessarily know where the muslims are, because everybody's a muslim. things like that. we need to get creative. we need to take action, get rid of the old guard in the dnc, man, if we don't get it together for 2018. if we're still going with the same old crowd, we are doomed. we are going to be doomed in 2020 when the gerrymandering begins again with the new census, all this stuff has to happen now. but it's the holidays, and i don't want to leave people with a bad taste in their mouth of how awful. >> don't worry, we have a very uplifting segment following you. i was ready for this. >> they told me that. it's a great segment. and they said that because this is the sort of unofficial
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lawrence o'donnell christmas show, that you and i were going to reprise the duet famously sung by david bowie and bing crosby, the "little drummer boy", that's how we're going to go out. now they're telling me we're out of time, wait a minute. i'm -- >> i'm so sorry, michael. >> he can sing. he's irish. of course he is sing. >> i'm so sorry, michael moore, the five-point plan. >> have a great holiday, lawrence, everybody watching, lawrence, you've done an excellent job this year, thank you for that. and thank you for early on calling it for what it is here. and now, lawrence, rum, pum, pum, pum. >> michael moore's going to sing us into e commercial.
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there's more evidence today that russia was behind the dnc hack. the company hired to investigate it shows new links. their assessment is based on the type of malicious software the hackers used in the dnc hack. they determined that the russian hackers used the same type of malware against the ukrainian military in 2015. also, a bipartisan report was released on edward snowden. >> this report on snowden who's been living in moscow comes at a delicate time with intelligence officials blaming vladimir putin
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for political seekerliolitical . since snowden's arrival in moscow he has had and continues to have contact with russian intelligence services. the report also says snowden is no whistle blower, only a small part of the 1.5 million documents that he stole from the nsa actually dealt with potential u.s. civil liberties issues. it says for example, the defense department has identified 13 programs for protecting u.s. forces that if they fell into the hands of the russians or chinese could jeopardize the security forces. we don't know what they are because the list in the report is completely redacted. it has similar redactions in it. so there are many parts we can't read. but this says snowden repeatedly flunked a test about privacy prote protections. this is one involving of e-mails. he says, quote, they claim without evidence that i am in
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cahoots with russian intel. everyone knows this is false. he said the report fails to show that he changed president obama's mind about the nsa's vast database of phone calls, and snowden's lawyer, ben wisner says it shows nothing that shows he was acting for harm because no evidence exists. coming up, some last minute help with your christmas shopping and "the last word"s you will hear from this show before christmas will be from a remarkable 17-year-old fwirld. girl. ♪ girl. take the reins this holiday and get the mercedes-benz
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the rap reports that donald trump is so displeased with his team's inability to lock in a-list talent for his inauguration next month, that he's ordered a hail mary shakeup
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of his recruiters to try to book performers. donald trump's been busy tweeting tonight. he tweeted the so-called a-list celebrities are all wanting tix to the inauguration, but look what they did for hillary. nothing. i want the people. yeah, sure, donald. sure. we'll be right back. when you're close to the people you love, does psoriasis ever get in the way of a touching moment? if you have moderate to severe psoriasis, you can embrace the chance
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word" before christmas to a girl i met in malawi last month. she's one of the students who was able to finish high school thanks to your generosity to the kind fund. she feels lucky but worries about all the kids she knows who still cannot afford high school. >> there are so many girls and boys, both. but many of them are girls who are suffering a lot. they need to follow their educations, but of course they don't have money, their parents are very poor. they can't afford for their school fees. they need help. they're discouraged. >> we'll hear more from her in a moment. catrina tweeted, donated a desk last month. seeing these kids so happy makes me want to do more. donating a scholarship after christmas. msnbc has a partnership with unicef to provide kids in need of desks, k-i-n-d.
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the kind fund also has a scholarship fund for girls to attend high school in malawi where it is not free. and the graduation rate is half that for boys. one tweet says my son asked me to donate to kind this year instead of buying him a gift. brenda, you've done a great job at raising your son. you can choose to contribute to desks or scholarships or both and designate your gift in the name of anyone on your holiday gift list, and unicef will send them an e-mail, acknowledging your gift. j.a.t.l. tweeted, i bought a desk, boy, this makes me so happy, thank you for giving me a chance to make a difference. and that captures exactly the way i feel about this. i feel so lucky to be working at a network that allows me to hear the pleas for help for their friends and to do something
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about it. so many of your tweeting say how good it feels to help these kids, and once again this year your outpouring of generosity leaves me in awe of your kindness. every year i worry about you. i worry, is this the year when you will grow weary of me talking about these kids growing up on the other side of the world who need our help. but you never to. your hearts open to them every year, no matter how repetitive i may sound. and in the last month i've been telling you about my recent trip to malawi, you have contributed 2,00 $2,003,095. you put us over the $2 million as you have done every year, you have now contributed a total of
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$12,715,015. one said his daughter gave a donation in his teacher's name for a desk. our teachers are so important, and i will never forget my first grade teacher or my daughter elizabeth's first grade teacher, mrs. goan. my daughter's now thriving in her senior year of college and was with me in malawi and was there when we decided to add a girls scholarship program. she was in high school then and meeting girls her age who had dropped out of high school because they couldn't afford the tuition. some of them were married with children. for reasons that seem silly to me now, i was a bit reluctant to complicate the mission of the kind fund by adding a girls scholarship program, but my daughter had no doubts about it. i was told what would have happened if my daughter hadn't convinced me to add a girls scholarship program to kind.
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>> what would have happened if you didn't get any help with your school fees? >> i would have been at home, maybe i would have been married now with childrens. my friends who did not have this chance, they're married. some of them have two kids. others one kid. yeah. >> and these are girls your age? >> yep. >> how old are you? >> i'm 17 years old. >> you're 17. >> yeah. >> and so you have friends who are 17 who have two kids. >> two. some are 12 years, some 15 years. but they have kids. yeah. >> she has a friend who's 12 years old who has a baby. she lights up when she talks about her future.
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she doesn't sound like a kid talking about a distant dream. she sounds like a confident young woman with a plan. >> i'm planning to, planning to apply for medicine course. >> you plan to apply to nursing school? >> yeah. >> so you want to be a nurse? >> yeah, i want to be a nurse. >> why do you want to be a nurse? >> i want to be a nurse because there are so many people in the village, they are suffering from different diseases. but from in the hospital there are little nurse and doctors, so i want to be one of the nurse to help them get better and be strong. >> she gets tonight's and this week's last word. ♪
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coming up, going nuclear. donald trump talks about expanding the nuclear capability and does it on twitter a month before taking office. he was not done because of 134g else he said. another big american company has taken a big. 28 days until the inauguration. what insiders know about the presidency that donald trump himself may not. the 11th hour begins now. good thursday evening from our headquarters here in new york. 28 days remaining until the inauguration of the next president. that man, president-elect donald trump made news