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follow-up conversations we can expect further details. something that secretary tillerson got sworn into office that there will be further follow-up on that. >> president trump will be meeting with japanese prime minister abe next week. will the tell prime minister abe ja. should pay more and pick up all the expense to maintain the military base in japan? >> i think as we get closer to the meetingle a have further information. there's an economic and national security aspect in terms of this. >> a poll came out today cbs says the president is at 40% approval rating. we've seen the approval rating drop during transition period. he talked about polls a great deal during the campaign. a, what do you think that says about the way the american people are looking at the actions he's taking and b, what do you think it says about his
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pledge to unite the country on the eve of his election? >> there's also a rasmussen poll who showed he had a 51% rating, ipsos reuters poll a majority of people approved -- >> does he know -- >> hold on, for all of his efforts to protect the country and the seven countries we didn't have the proper vetting in place to ensure that the american people were safe, what we did have was a very high response from the american people in support of that. his policies continue to do it. the president understands this is a marathon, not a sprint. as he continues to get people back to work, protect this country, the poll numbers. z>> i don't have a staff announcement on the cbfp. >> criticized the bureau
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broadly. >> think we'll have further updates on that area that we need to work with congress on. april? >> sean, two things. one you said something about president trump talking on facebook live, whatever the address that he was going to talk about black history month and issues pertaining to the african-american community. couple of, well when you first game a couple days into the administration i asked you about the agenda, the black agenda that he had possibly formulated or was formulating as he came out maybe the day before with the issue of chicago or the day after something around that time, chicago and sending the fed in if it doesn't change. has he now formulated a plan to deal with the black community, not just with issues of law and order, what is that -- >> yes he had a meeting with african-american leaders the other day in the roosevelt room. part of this isn't just law and order.
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there's a lot that goes along with that agenda and part of these business meetings they have about hiring and small business and job creation, all of those shall us i think are at the forefront of small business or that community. so it's not just a single thing. i think there's a lot, whether it's crime and law and order, and education, health care, small business job creation, that impacts the entire segment of the population that whether they're living in rural part of the country or inner city that's what he's really focussed on. >> i'm not finished so he's now formulating the agenda? >> absolutely. >> so the second question cbe what's on the table? >> we're not getting, i have nothing to announce on that. >> i know you have nothing to announce. the people are concerned -- >> i understand we've heard a lot of rumors. when we have something to announce on that we will do it. it shouldn't be any surprise the president when it comes to rooting out radical islamic
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terrorism, he is going to make sure that is a major focus of his keeping the country safe so i don't have anything further for you on that. >> what about excluding people at airports, excluding white supremacists from -- >> i don't have anything for you. i just said i don't have anything for you but i'll be clear this president's commitment to rooting out radical islamic terrorism is at the forefront of his agenda. there's reports where that program or severity going to lie. >> i'm talking on issues of white supremacist. >> thank you, cecelia? >> president has made tough talk on iran playingith fire. should americans be ready for the possibility of military action with iran, is that on the table? >> i've said this before, the president's been very clear. he doesn't take options off the table but he understands the impact of something like that. the sanctions today i think are going to be very strong and impactful and i hope that iran realizes that after the provocative measures they've taken that they understand that
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this administration is not going to sit back and take it light pi. >> thank you, sean. several published reports say it will be a tie in the senate on the confirmation of betsy devos, secretary of education and mike pence will have to cast an historic tie-breaking vote as vice president. should we be watching for any surpris surprises, has the congressional office gotten one more vote from the no camp into the yes or do you expect the vice president to be on hand to confirm? >> i would say this. betsy devos as i mentioned before is an unbelievable champion of education. for children, for teachers, for parents. i hope that vote gets 60, 70 votes. she is an remarkable woman who fought hard to improve our nation's education system and make sure schools are serving children and i think we'll make sure we will do everything we
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can and we are confident she'll be confirmed as the next secretary of education. thank you, have a great weekend. the president is about to sign executive orders. i hope you have a great weekend, to those of you who can't travel down to florida we'll be gaggling on the plane. >> it would have been better if you had stayed around long per. >> there you have it, the daily at times contentious back and forth between white house press secretary sean spicer and gathered members of the media. i'm craig melvin in new york. the white house wrapping up another briefing on a day we witnessed new sanctions on iran. sean spicer saying those sanctions will be strong and impactful. any moment donald trump will sign the executive orders to
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relax rules on wall street. lot to get through, joining me is nbc's chief business cor spndent ali velshi and white house correspondent kristen welker and ali arouzi, former am boss for nicholas byrnes, good to have all of you with us. kristen welker is getting set. mr. velshi, since we have two alis i'll be specific. >> dodd-frank in 2010 kamd after chris dodd and barney frank in the wake of the financial crisis and of it a lot of different bills that became one and no part of the financial system it didn't touch. republicans have hated this from the beginning, said it was an overreach and preventing
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business from being done, it's really curtailing business. they wanted to get rid of this for a while. mitt romney campaigned on getting rid of it entirely. i think what we'll see in the executive order because it's a bill there's little that the president can do about it. seems he'll direct the treasury secretary to speak to the various agencies regulatory agencies that deal with everything to d with finances and have them lk at ways in which it can be rolled back. it's not clear whether they'll completely do away with the bill, try to pair it back. donald trump wants 75% reduction in regulation. coprobably get it by getting it all out of dodd-frank. we have to think about there are protections in dodd-frank including the consumer financial protection bureau which sean spicer was talking about. >> he called it unconstitutional. >> well a lot of people like it, why shouldn't we have a federal government bureau that looks at financial institutions and how they treat consumers and whether they're fair. this was started by elizabeth
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warren, she was posed to run it, republican senators didn't let her be in charming of it, her payback she became a united states senator so that's where the fight will be. somebody asked him whether they're replacing richard cordray the boss of that organization, the consumer financial protection bureau and he said we do not have any staff announcements. >> how much of the roll-back of dodd-frank is allowing big banks to use xolsities from customers like me and you to make risky bets on the market? >> that's the volcker rule. in the 2000s, banks started to make more money from pro try tear trading, being really good investors and traders using deposited money than doing banking activities or investment banking or merchant banking activity. lot of people think that's a good thing, that your money needs to be treated more safely
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than an investors money, your deposits. we separated banking from that sort of thing. now we're looking at rolling that back. the market we just showed that the market is quite positive on this, because the idea is if you let banks do what they want to do, they will be more profitable. this list gain in the market avenue we seep since donald trump has been elected in the low teens has been led by the banking sector, goldman sachs has been one of the biggest gainers of all in this. so make what you will of it. it doesn't mean that because there are fewer rules banks will be dishonest but banks didn't play by very good rules before some of these things were put into place. it could be dodd-frank was an overreach of pendulum swinging too far and we might go too far the other way. we haven't found the middle. >> president trump expected to sign these executive orders any moment now. the signing of this executive action, couldn't he pick up the phone and call treasury?
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>> sounds like he's directory the treasury to talk to the people. at some point the executive actions become -- >> dog and pony shows. >> right. >> kristen welker inside the briefing room. let's talk about iran, the sanctions, what did we learn from sean spicer about those during the briefing? >> reporter: we learned a couple of things, craig. he was pressed on whether the president was considering more options, and he effectively confirmed that. he didn't tip the president's hand. he said look, he's not going to signal what potential next steps he might take and again, he was pressed on whether a military option is still on the table and he reiterated what we have heard from the president himself, which is that the president is not taking any of his options off the table. when he was asked about whether or not the sanctions were in the pipeline under president obama he essentially acknowledged yes, look, the preparation for this action has been under way for quite some time. however, the trigger, the trigger of this recent
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provocations by iran including that ballistic missile test which the administration argues is in defiance of a u.n. resolution even though the u.n. has not determined that itself. one more headline craig i would note was on israel. he was pressed on his statement about israel. the fact that he said new settlements may not be helpful to a peaceful resolution there, when he was pressed whether the administration supports a two-state solution, he dodged that question. he said look, the president wants to achieve peace but he didn't get into specifics about how specifically he wants that to happen, where the president falls on these very thorny topics. so i thought that was certainly something that could get some traction and then craig, the question that i wanted to ask but didn't get a chance. >> you tried. >> reporter: i tried, this was a very quick briefing about his meeting with ceos, the fact that the ceo of tesla, elon musk said he was going to raise his opposition to the travel ban with the president. i wanted to get the president's reaction, whether or not he's reconsidering that travel ban
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and of course it comes in the wake of the ceo of uber pulling out of that meeting and of the advisory council all together. you're seeing some very strong pushback from the business community to that ban, that halting of travel from seven predominantly muslim nations. >> kristen welker at the white house, thank you. i want to bring in ali arouzi now standing by in iran. what has been the response to all of this there, sir? >> reporter: well craig it's very late in the evening here, it's a friday so there hasn't been any response yet to the sanctions but the iranian foreign minister who is deeply involved in the nuclear negotiations defended iran's missile program. he said you know, we have the right to defend ourselves. it's a very important program for us and it will continue. now this is definitely going to have a very, very contentious point of sanctions on iran's missile program. when iran was negotiating a
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nuclear deal they kind of made a side deal with the united states on this u.n. resolution, and the wording of it. they were adamant having that changed because obviously they saw a day like this coming. they were able to have the wording changed on that resolution in 2015. the explicitly didn't deny iran testing missiles but called on iran not to do so. so iran are probably going to hone in on that strongly but i also expect them to come out firing tomorrow on these u.s. sanctions. it's not going to go down well with the iranian establishment. they thought they had a done deal with america and this opened up a whole new can of worms. i spoke to an analyst earlier today, i asked do you think the united states if they pile on enough pressure on iran, will iran pull out of the nuclear deal, and he said the most hardened of hard line in iran, it would not be responsible for the deal falling apart, it would rather be the u.s.
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so they can stand on ground at least with the europeans. they'll be very upset about the sanctions. except tough talk from tehran tomorrow. >> ali arouzi, thank you so much. ambassador byrnes let me come to you for a moment if i can, this missile test, this ballistics missile test that happened last week, this apparently the repercussions for that. this idea that they tested these missiles to test this new administration, what do you make of that notion? reasonable to m. the trump administration has a right to be concerned about iran on ballistic missiles and iran's support for terrorism. two points. i wonder about the sanctions. they would have been much stronger had we worked this out with the european union. it significant the u.s. would sanction it would have been more significant if the trump
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administration it taken a little bit of time for diplomacy and tried to get european countries behind us and secondly president trump now twice has tweeted out very tough statements against iran. if there is an implication that the united states is going to use military force, and i think that would be unwarranted at this time, because we have not seen a fundamental challenge by iran to the united states, then i think it's going to scare away potential countries that could support us, like the european countries, some of the arab countries won't want to be involved with that. so i wonder if president trump is actually by setting down the clear red lines via twitter he's actually boxing himself in. i would actually give this to secretary tillerson to go around the world to the gulf, with the gulf arabs to the european to build up much broader support than just the united states. we're very powerful obviously, but we want to pressure iran, leverage them, isolate them economically in the trump administration, decided to go
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for the quick fix, i question the wisdom of that. >> you used the words red line there, what we saw from general flynn a few days ago was that akin to what we saw from president obama roughly four years ago with regards to syria? >> there was an implication in general flynn's statement and president trump's tweets that we're going to come down hard on iran, whether that's sanctions or the use of force, we'll have to see, but we have to think very, very long time before we initiate the use of military force, if that's an option, and i don't mind leaving it on the table in general, but if it's an option here, that i think would not be backed up by much political support, if any around the world. i support a tougher line in iran, the iranians are troublemakers in the middle east. we have to be smart and building
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a broader coalition would be a smarter way forward than just acting unilaterally by these executive orders. >> nick, i noticed your newspaper had this headline "trump embraces pillars of obama's foreign policy" these new iranian sanctions, they represent a bit of not so much a policy shift, but a major policy change from the obama administration. what are some of the other changes? >> well look, i think the iranian one is important. you saw a statement from the u.n. ambassador saying that aggression in the ukraine will not be tolerated. you see them sliding into place in a lot of ways with an overlay of certain aspects of the policy, but as ambassador burns points out the execution of the policy is important and again, it's not impossible to imagine the obama administration pursui sanctions after a ballistic missile test. it's much more likely the obama administration will have taken time behind the scenes got some
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allies on board and going it alone is not as effective as doing sanctions. >> we're going to have to leave it there, nick, mr. ambassador, ali velshi, ali arouzi. two alis and two nicks. >> effective. >> big thanks to all of you. kristen welker as well. today's microsoft pulse question, do you think sanctions are an appropriate punishment for iran's missile test? that's the question, we'd love to hear from you, the pulse is live., we'll check the results later in the broadcast. how are lawmakers reacting to the administration's new wave of sanctions against iran? rhode island democrat jack reed joins me on the other side of this break, and president trump's controversial pick to run the department of education, betsy devos advanced to a final senate vote. can democrats get another republican to jump ship and sink her nomination?
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today's sanctions really represent a very, very strong stand against the actions iran has been taking and make it very clear that the deal that they struck previously was not in the best interests of this country and that president trump is going to do everything he can to make sure that iran has stayed in check. >> sean spicer there a few moments ago from the white house, talking about those new sanctions against iran. republican leadership praising those sanctions today as well. house speaker paul ryan calling it a swift and decisive response to iran's ballistic missile test. kasie hunt joins me with more reaction from the hill. what are other lawmakers saying about these sanctions kasie? >> reporter: craig i would put this in the column, it's still shorter than its counterpart but the column of things that the
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white house has done that capitol hill republicans on capitol hill have felt good about and you've seen this both in policy so that paul ryan statement and statements from others saying they support these new sanctions on iran based on that ballistic missile test but also how the white house went about doing this. bob corker, the chairman of the senate foreign relations committee put out a statement saying that he spoke to mike flynn, the national security adviser today, and that he was very pleased with how this rollout went out. that this represents a change basically from how that executive order was discussed earlier this week, that upset so many people up here on capitol hill. so i think that that is an important piece of this story as well. lindsey graham, the senator from south carolina told me yesterday he wants congress to be involved in additional sanctions on iran. for this step this is 13 individuals and 12 businesses that have been sanctioned by the
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administration, this is something it seems that has little to no opposition among republicans up here on capitol hill. craig. >> kaci hunt on this friday. thank you. i want to bring in democratic senator jack reid of rhode island. he is the ranking member of the armed services committee. thank you, senator. >> thank you, craig. >> john mccain welcomes president trump's decision on the sanctions. last hour, senator mccain issued a statement. it is long past time for the united states and the international community to hold iran accountable. not just for the commitments under the nuclear deal, but destabilizing behavior across the middle east. do you agree with that? >> the missile developments by the iranians and support of s surrogates and terrorist actives are destabilizing. we have to provide a sonrespons.
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these are restricted to some individuals and few companies. i think they are responsive to the test. as we pointed out, they would be much more effective if there were international sanctions. that got theiranians to the tab to the jcp. as we target the terrorist activities, we don't force a rupture with respect to the joint comprehensive plan with respect to nuclear weapons. there our allies would be supportive. >> we have seen the administration ask israel not to expand in the west bank. we saw nikki haley say we will not lift sanctions. how do you square the statements
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can the president's cozy relationship with vladimir putin? with benjamin netanyahu? >> well, i think what they represent is the beginning of a realistic assessment of what is appropriate policy. the russian seizure of crimea was against international law. the separatists east of ukraine defies international law. that brings uncertainty in europe and speaking out against that in similar evaluations of the risk to peace and stability in other parts of the world. i think there is a more realistic focus on what is taking place. >> senator, stand by. i want to talk about this with you on the other side from the oval office. president trump signing executive actions.
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>> today, we're signing core principles and regulating the united states financial system. it doesn't get bigger than that, right? >> thank you very much. would you like to explain? >> what we're doing is returning the american people, low income investors and retirees control over their retirement savings. this is about main street and i am -- a labor of love for me for over four years as chairman.
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this is a big staday. >> she means that so much. >> gentlemen, i think we should hand the pens to this very special person. >> thank you. >> she wanted it. she earned it. >> thank you, sir. i'm grateful. >> thank you. >> mr. president, do you have anything to say about iran? are they expecting more? >> they are not behaving. >> all right. guys. thank you, guys. thank you. >> i appreciate it. >> all right. there you have it. president trump in the oval office signing what we were expecting he would sign. executive action with regard to
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beginning the unraveling of dodd-frank, if you will. he is now on his way to what he called the winter white house down at mar-a-lago. senator reid, are you still with me? >> yes, craig. >> let's talk about what we heard from the president. we are not sure who that woman was standing next to him. the idea that rolling back regulation is about middle income investors and about main street. what say you to that? >> well, dodd-frank was legislation that was enacted to correct some of the credible shortfalls of wall street during the 2008-2009 period. without those corrections, we he would n we would not be in the economic situation where we see growth. the job numbers of 200,000. there are strengths that are necessary against large
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institutions. we all want to make sure that retirees and middle income and working americans get a fair shake. we can't do it unless we he accurately and thoughtfully regulate big banks. >> chief correspondent ari velshi is with me. >> i want people to remember back to what it felt like in 2008 and 2009. it felt like the world was collapsing. there was a week where no one could lend money to anyone in the world. the people with the best credit ratings could not get credit. lots of things were done in the heat of the moment where we don't know the unintended consequences. there are some agencies that did well. the agency that closed banks did well. they were doing that every weekend. nobody lost money on deposits.
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banks were transferred to other banks. things worked well, but things that prevented companies from getting loans and making loans. regulations that made it costly for businesses to try to expand and do things. it is really one has to be in one camp or the other with dodd-frank. it is not all right or all wrong. the pendulum swings both ways. we are trying to get to the middle. a lot of democrats say there is nothing wrong with it and republicans say there is everything wrong with it. >> senator, thank you for your time. enjoy the weekend. embattled education secretary nominee debetsy devos cleared another hurdle on the way to the position. why critics say she has no business leading our nation's education system. (sfx: park rides, music and crowd sounds)
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education secretary pick betsy devos will get a final senate vote next week. in a major showdown, democrats seeking to pick off republicans to block her. meanwhile, parents across the country, many watching this closely. she has been a strong advocate for choice and vouchers. we have rehema ellis who went to the home state of michigan to talk to parents about all of this. what did they tell you? >> it depends. some say look what she did in michigan with vouchers which not serving children well. they say she is unfit for the job. we are talking to parents and they applaud her efforts. in public schools, sierra cooper's grades on edge. then she got into a charter school. >> i'm passing classes with "as"
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and "bs." >> her mother says this school makes best use of her tax dollars. >> i should take that money that would be given to her in a public school to a charter school because the education was. >> as michigan students rank among the lowest in standard test scores, the state opened the door to charter schools as an alternative more than 20 years ago. >> it was born out of a need. charter schools are not a bad thing. it say school of choice. >> reporter: today in detroit, 46% of students attend charters. many are run by for-profit companies. some get high marks, but do not get better markshan public schools. in michigan, betsy devos, the nominee for secretary of education, is the driving force of public charter schools and
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tax voucher programs. >> i have been involved in education as a volunteer and advocate for children and voice for parents. >> reporter: but the billionaire activist ignited controversy. she has no experience in public schools. never attended public school. never sent her four children to one. in 2016, she referred to it as a closed market. it's a monopoly. dead end. >> she has no interest in public education. she has only an interest in dismantling it to hand it over to charters and companies. >> reporter: the latest concern is "the washington post" reported answers she gave were copied. word for word from an obama administration old press release. writing every child deserves to attend school in a safe, supportive environment where they can learn, thrive and grow. the trump administration calls
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it character assassination. back in detroit, sierra is just glad she got into a charter school. >> why do you think you are trying harder here than public school? >> the surroundings. the kids i'm in the classroom here are always working. >> reporter: getting all schools to work is the biggest challenge facing america's education system. the question is how to do it and should betsy devos lead the charge? >> craig, i have to tell you, an unprecedented public outcry against betsy devos. you have to remember 9 out of 10 students in public schools are in plic schools. not charter schools. she has nopresented any plan to help those children achieve academic excellence. >> rehema ellis, thank you for that fascinating look. i appreciate your work. i want to bring in a former republican governor of arizona. janua jan brewer.
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governor, thank you for your time on this friday afternoon. in addition to what we heard in the story, betsy devos is se receiving a fair amount of criticism for the performance in the committee. here it is. >> i would imagine that there's probably a gun in the school to protect from potential grizzlies. i support accountability. >> for all schools that receive funding? >> i support accountability. >> is that yes or no? >> i support accountability. >> do you not want to answer my question? >> i support accountability. >> governor, you concede it was a rocky performance in front of the committee. do you think betsy devos is the right choice? >> i do. i do. you know, craig, i got involved in politics because of my children's education. i think the mothers and fathers across the country want accountability, but more than that, they want kids to be
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successful. betsy cares about all kids many s . she has a history of school choice and charters and magnet schools. >> did you go to public school? >> i did. >> did your children? >> my children have been in both. >> your children also went to public schools? >> i did. >> your children? did your children go to public school? oh, both. okay. >> they went tooth. public andvate schools because of their circumstances. the situation was better for them. i was fortunate enough to make a choice. i will tell you the brilliant one, the smart one completed all public schools and was very successful. because we all want high academic standards.
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betsy devos will do that. >> you have three children if i remember correctly. i won't ask which is the bril ya brilliant one. >> i would have to be accountable at home. >> we love accountability. we asked about the challenges for the military families. you wrote, high quality, rigorous standards from state to state so there is no question when a student transfers he will be at the same place academically as their peers. how do you make that work when mrs. devos said she wants to turnover most of the power of curriculum to individual states? >> you know, it will be a standard, i think, which already we know 43 states have the high consistent academic standards. i grew up on a military base. i knew how difficult it is for
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our military families to adjust with their children. when they are so mobile and moving from one state to another state and some instances it is county to county. there is no way to have kids tested to know if they are moving forward in the manner in which we suspect they should be moving forward. or to be able to compete among that. if they move from one school district in particularly again with the military, they move or their kids move and they're ahead. they just waste time or thiey'r behind and they cannot catch up. it is effecting the military. we all believe we need to take care of our military people. our men and women over there working for us and given up their private life to serve us publicly. they make their decisions based on a lot of them based on kids' academic advancement.
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they do not want to stay in the military if their kids will not get a good education. we need consistent academic testing so our parents know where the kids are. >> i want to ask about obamac e obamacare. key republicans seem to break ranks on this idea of repealing the affordable care act. part in parcel. "washington post" reporting orrin hatch and lamar alexander now open to fixing obamacare before they consider repealing obamacare. you work to expand the immedime obamacare in arizona. >> not having been there in congress and making those decisions. knowing as a governor of the state of arizona, it will be a
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huge task and not to have something in place at the point in time they decide to pull the rug out from under these people. it will be very difficult. i feel very strongly and our medicaid program in arizona. we were the last state to join in in medicaid. every state is different. i am concerned about just exactly what direction they will take. we do a capital form here. they talk about block grants. it will affect every state totally and completely differently. so when you are dealing with 50 different states and hundreds of people that need that care, you know, they need to move cauti s cautiously. >> former governor jan brewer. thank you for your time. >> thank you, craig. >> days before what would have been trayvon martin's 22nd birthday.
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is he nowormulated a plan to deal with the black community? not just with issues of law and order? what is that? >> we had a meeting with african-american leaders the other day in the roosevelt room. this is not just law and order. jobs and health care and small business lendsiing. a lot goes on with that agenda. >> that is sean spicer. reaching out to the country's african-americ african-americans. this coming sunday marks a sad day for the community and all of america. sunday, trayvon martin would have been 22 years old. on february 26th, 2012, martin, then 17 years old walking back to his father's house after the
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store for snacks. he was shot and killed. his killer was not arrested this night. after a national outcry, an arrest and trial which ended in acquittal. sybrina msnbc and he was shot and killed. martin's killer was not arrested that night. after a national outcry there was an arrest in april and a trial, which ended in an acquittal. trayvon martin's parents have now written about that darkest chapter in their life. it's called "rest in power." i sat down with them to talk about what they would want the world to know about their son. >> we wanted people to see who we were as people, who trayvon was as a teenager. and we don't feel as though we got the chance to show the world
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who he truly was. >> we had to reach out to those families. those families we were connected to because of the death of a child, with all of the families we still stay connected to, and so that is the circle, that is my new circle. and so i have to, you know, wade past the death and the media and interviews and everything, we keep in touch with each other just to make sure that we are healing properly, just to make sure that we are doing okay. so, we check on one another. and it's a few more other names thaw didn't mention that we -- we are in the same circle, unfortunately. >> i want to play something that president obama said just a few days after this all went down. again, hard to believe it was five years ago. this is what the president said then. >> my main message is to the parents of trayvon martin. you know, if i had a son, he'd look like trayvon.
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and, you know, i i think they are right to expect that all of us as americans are going to take this with the seriousness it deserves and we're going to get to the bottom of exactly what happened. >> i think few believe we ever got to the bottom of what happened. that night. but considering the current political climate, considering the current climate of racial bias in this country, do you think that it's more likely or less likely that something would happen like what happened to your son five years ago? >> i think we're still in the culture where we still don't -- we still don't value african-american men, women, boys and girls' lives as it should be valued. i think that with the new administration and the things that they're saying, i don think that we'll progress right now, but that's what our fight is for. our fight is to continue to see
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justice, not only in our case, but in other cases across the country. and so we hope that this new administration do see that there is a need for a conversation, and beyond conversation, there's a need to do something about the injustices across our country. >> your son's death sparked a number of protests, movements as well. the black lives matter movement, for instance, it could easily be argued it was trayvon's death that gave rise to black lives matter. in this country. the movement, black lives matter in its current form, do you think it's sufficient to accomplish what it has set out to accomplish? >> it's a start. i'll say that it's definitely a start. it brings awareness to black lives, and that's what's important. we see -- too often we see black lives that are taken away from us and nobody is being held accountable. and so we want to continue to
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raise awareness. and we can bring awareness through black lives matter. that's why that movement is so important. >> you wrote later in the book, the day of the verdict that you just had to get out of the courtroom. you couldn't stay in the courtroom because you knew what the verdict was going to be. how did you know, in your gut, that those jurors would return a not guilty verdict? >> you just said it yourself, it was in my gut. it was just a feeling i had that had taken over me that said, let's just leave. so, that was something that i discussed with tracy. and we decide, yeah, we don't need to see -- sit in the courtroom and just let our whole life be on display. and i just -- i just did not have a good feeling about it. >> five years later, is it -- is it a little easier now than it was right after his death? >> i don't think it will ever be easy to accept his death. just because of the relationship
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this hour of "msnbc live." have a fantastic weekend. my colleague katy tur picking things up from here. >> thank you for sticking around. another whirlwind day in washington. donald trump imposing a new round of sanctions on iran in response to the recent missile test. white house press secretary sean spicer defending the new diplomatic retaliation. >> we'll continue to respond with appropriate action. these designations mark yet another stop in our continued effort to aggressively target iran's ballistic missile program and terrorism-related activities. also today, the first jobs report under president trump. 227,000 jobs created. trump boasting about the numbers during a meeting with the ceos at the white house. >> we're very happy about that. i think that it's going to continue big league. we're bringing back jobs. we're bringing down your taxes. we're getting rid of regulations. also today, another executive action signed in the
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oval office aiming to partially deregulate wall street, as we await donald trump to take off to his weekend trip to his resort in florida. we begin this hour on rising tension with iran. just this morning the trump administration announced new economic sanctions against the country. the move a direct response to iran test-firing a ballistic missile. this after president trump sent an early morning threat to the nation via twitter, saying iran is playing with fire. they don't appreciate how kind president obama was to them. not me. the tweet prompted this response from iran's foreign minister. >> we will never, repeat never, and get the same statement from those who are complaining, never use them against anybody. unless in self-defense. and be sure nobody has the guts again to attack us. >> joining me now from the white house is nbc national correspondent peter alexander and li