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you are our heroes. and we are prepared to fight, and we pray for peace. thank you, god bless you and god bless america. thank you very much. thank you. thank you. thank you. [ applause ] >> thank you. thank you very much. >> there you have it. donald trump addressing centcom, his first visit there since becoming commander in chief. i'm katy tur. it is 2:00 on the east coast. 11:00 a.m. on the west coast. we've got a lot to chew on with that. he opened up by saying, talking about the election, as he almost always does when he takes the mike, and telling the crowd that they love him and he loves them. so, to break it all down and to go through all the main points from that, let's go to our white house correspondent, kristen welker, who's standing by down there in tampa. also nbc news pentagon correspondent hans nichols, and msnbc military analyst colonel
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jack jacobs. he's a medal of honor recipient. let's start with you, kristen, since were on screen for most of my intro. talk about what it meant for donald trump to go down there, address the troops for the first time? and what did you make of him opening up again talking about the election and telling the troops that they love him and that he loves them back. >> reporter: not a surprise, as you point out, katy. this is a line we have heard from him in the past. and, obviously, very proud of the support he has within the military community. a couple of headlines, though, i thought in addition to that. one, he did not delve into a discussion about the controversy over his travel ban. as you know, we've been tracking all weekend long the fact it has now been blocked in the courts. his administration appealing that. there was a lot of anticipation that he might comment on what was happening. he didn't. instead, he largely stuck to his script, really thanking the troop for their service, for
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their sacrifice. and we heard him reiterate a number of the points and campaign promises that he made on the trail. number one, a pledge to reinvest in the military, to make sure they have the resources they need. then you heard him talk about nato. he talked about the need for other countries to pay their fair share. that's the type of talk that makes some foreign leaders a little bit nervous. former president obama had a similar message to them. as you know, in past remarks, president trump has talked about the fact that he thinks nato is obsolete. he didn't go that far today. he did underscore the need for all nato countries to pay their fair share. and then he talked about the fight, in his words, against radical islamic terrorism. again, this is a term former president obama didn't use. his administration felt as though it would only make would-be terroristsment want to hit the united states even more. president trump taking a very different tactic.
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he thinks you need to use that term and address it head-on. this speech largely aimed at thanking the troops. as you say, katy, those first remarks did take a quick look back at the election results. >> that was a thorough rundown from kristen welker. for viewers who might just be tuning in at the top of the hour, we'll play a little bit of what donald trump said to centcom, maintaining support for military families. take a listen. >> i want every military family in this country to know that our administration is at your service. we stand with you 100%. we will protect those who protect us and we will never, ever let you down. >> and i want to go over to colonel jack jacobs, who's just joined us on set. he's obviously making a really big effort to come off as the commander in chief. to come off as somebody who is going to be strong, who's always going to defense the military,
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and he's also going further. he's portraying the world as an extraordinarily dangerous place where every day you leave your house, you are under threat of being killed by radical islamic terror. that's why they said they introduced the immigration ban so quickly. because you never know when something's going to happen. we heard him go pretty hard on that in that address to centcom, talking about radical islam, the threat of isis. says it's happening everywhere. people aren't covering it. people are covering it. it's certainly happening. but is it as big of a threat as the trump trump administration and donald trump is trying to make it out to number. >> all terrorism is a threat. the fact is we had more people killed in oklahoma city than in a lot of terroristic attacks that were perpetrated by other people. we have to be vigilant, no doubt about that. we have to have better intelligence, more informants. we have to be able to listen
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to -- follow people's conversations, here and abroad, depending on the legal requirements. we have to have more information, otherwise we won't be able to protect the country. the fact of the matter is, we are less likely to have an internal problem with terrorism than a lot of countries. one of the reasons is that we are not just welcoming the large majority of immigrants who come to this country are absorbed into the social and economic framework in this country. that's not so in europe. not so in france and so on. as a result, there's a wide gulf between those who -- immigrants on the one hand in other countries and everybody else. in this kurngts it's not so. you work, you go to school, so on, you're going to be okay. we need to focus our attention on that rather than focusing our attention on a relatively small number of people who come over to do harm. we have to be vigilant, to be sure. we will be vigilant. we have to have better systems
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for screening people. but once they're screened, we found immigrants do an exceptional job, indeed. most of us children and grandchildren of immigrants who have done very well, indeed. >> to that point, what do you think donald trump is trying to achieve by not having any shades of gray here? >> there's a certain percentage of the population that no shades of gray makes it easier for people to think about things. if you're in a situation that it's either you or they, then finding solutions to problems becomes very, very easy. it does not mean they're necessarily efficacious because you can perceive that guy is the bad guy, he's the good guy. doesn't mean necessarily the course of action you're going to take will work. take, for example, what we're doing overseas. no doubt about the fact we need to get rid of isis. we've worked hard at it. we could work harder at it. at the end of the day the idea that we're going to destroy isis
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doesn't take into account that the objective has to be reinforced. let's assume you achieve the objective, getting rid of isis, wherever it happens to be. who then controls the area isis controlled? don't forget isis is a territorially based operation. it seeks to be the new caliphate. you're not going to be able to just get rid of them and go home at the end of the day. we discovered after decades and decades of fighting a wide variety of very bad people that once you take the objective, you got to hold onto it. quite frankly, having taken a lot of objectives myself and a lot of other petrified friends, it always takes more resources to hold onto the objective than it does to take it in the first place. destroying isis, for example, in -- anyplace, fill in the blank, is going to require a lot more people at the end of the day to hold onto it. >> and donald trump was adamant about not wanting to nation-build during the campaign. hans, i want to go to you to get the reaction out of the
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pentagon. we've had a full weekend since the courts in seattle blocked this immigration ban. there's been a lot of reaction, a lot of folks in senior -- official intelligence positions and former state department positions saying this ban is -- does the opposite of what the donald trump administration wants it to do. it, in fact, makes us less safe. is that the way the pentagon is feeling behind the scenes, or what are you hearing? >> i wouldn't go that far. what we did just hear is president trump directly refute that argument. saying we're not going to let people into our country that seek to do america damage. just take three big takeaways from this. number one, expect more special operations raids. that's clearly what the president was telegraphing there. remember, he's speaking at centcom, at the southern command as well, where they plan this raid in yemen that didn't go great. there was one navy s.e.a.l. dead pp, civilian causalities. military nerve likes that. number two, expect more spending. it was pretty clear we'll have more ships, nor planes, as the
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president said, better equipment. one final note on nato, once again, he's making nato. it's clear on the substance his position isn't that different from the president he succeeding. on the emphasis, his emphasis is so much different than what we heard from president obama. almost every opportunity donald trump gets, he says nato isn't pulling its weight. those messages are heard loud and clear in capitols, in brussels. defense secretary mattis is heading to brussels next week. i suspect he's going to have to do a lot of interpret, even if it's in the same language. >> and will he be able to convince eu officials over there that he is speaking for the administration and not donald trump? those in nato that we have an alliance with, obviously. hans, i want to ask you one quick question. in is just about optics. what does the pentagon -- how do folks back there feel when donald trump comes out and talk about the election the first thing he says, and then says,
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you love me, i love you. is that something that is being misinterpreted by the media or is that something that is irking people back there in the pentagon? >> you hear people say it's inappropriate. president trump did sign that executive order on suspending immigration from seven countries. de that hear at the pentagon. he just defend it at centcom. privately you do hear some complaints. i don't want to say quite a bit, but they're private. they're not going public for a variety of political and optical reasons. privately you do hear some protocol, some complaints. that said, i just heard military folks cheering the president on what he was saying, both on the immigration order, on what he was joking and saying that they supported him, and cheering, quite franc lishgs they'll get a lot more equipment and potentially doing more activity. >> hans nichols, making a great point. kristen welker, thank you,
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colonel jacobs. coming up, the fight of the president's order on immigration. hours left for the justice department to make the case for reinstating it. pete williams and bill crystal join me next to discuss the legal fight. as we head to break, today's microsoft pulse question. we're asking, after tom brady's fifth super bowl win, is he the greatest quarterback of all time? oh, come o guys. there's not a lot of patriots fans out there right now. they're getting kind of sick of them. let us know what you think. we'll get the results a little later in this hour.
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this hour the president is in florida where he he just wrapped up comments at centcom in tampa. it's his first visit there since becoming commander in chief. his visit, though, overshadowed by problems with his immigration ban, which was halted over the weekend by a seattle judge. trump's justice department now has only about four hours to argue why the courts need to immediately reinstate the executive action. but it doesn't look like it will be that easy. two more states filing their own suits against the ban, claiming trump overreached. joining the fight, a bipartisan group of former cia and state department officials who say trump's ban makes america less safe. joining us now from our washington news room is nbc justice correspondent pete williams. pete, i want to get you right off the top. where does this court case stand and what is the likelihood that the trump administration is going to be successful in
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getting the court to reinstate it? >> stands right now before the ninth circuit court of appeals. that's the west coast appeals court. that's where the government went after the judge on friday issued the order, stopping the government from enforcing the travel restrictions. they say the court should lift that order and let the travel restrictions go back into effect. the states say, no, it would go before this three-judge panel that hears emergency applications on the ninth circuit. two of them -- one appointed by president carter, one by president obama, one by president george w. bush. once they get the government's brief, then they'll decide whether to keep the order in place or not. the government's brief is due at 6:00, as you noted, and the court could rule at any point after that. i think they'll act quickly, tonight or tomorrow morning. >> opponents are making the case that this is a religious-based ban. obviously, the administration is pushing back on that. they're saying, no, it's really about territories and these are seven places the obama administration once deemed
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dangerous in one way or another. that argument is not so sound when you get into the details of it. then again donald trump on the campaign trail, as you know, talked about how this was a muslim ban. a couple weeks ago or a week ago, rudy giuliani got on the air and said trump wanted to enforce his muslim ban but he needed to know how to do it legally. my question to you is, do those statements on the trail and a statement like that from rudy giuliani, will that hurt the government's case in getting this ban reinstated? >> maybe eventually. but right now the question before the appeals court is, not the merits of the case, not really so much whether it violates on the basis of religion and its own constitution or illegal. the real burning question before the court of appeals is, what's the best thing to do now? who's hurt the most? are the states hurt the most by leaving the ban in place? they argue it's hurting their economy, hurting their universities, or is the government hurt the worst? the government claims without this restriction in place,
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you're not doing the careful vetting we should be doing and could allow potential terrorists in. that's the question. at this stage, the question before the court is not really whether it's constitutional or legal. those are sort of, if you will, side issues right now. i mean, they'll get to that later. but right now the question is, do we leave this ban in place -- do we leave the stay in place that stops the government from enforcing the travel restrictions? >> nbc's pete williams in our washington bureau. thank you for joining me. now let's go over to bill crystal, he joins me here on set in new york. bill, let's first talk about what we are -- what we were just talking about with pete williams, which is that this ban is something that is getting a lot of negative attention out there. specifically from protesters around the country, but also from some people in donald trump's own party. who are hearing a lot of pushback against it. my question to you is, how much political capital is the trump administration willing to spend to get this thing through?
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>> i think it is hurting donald trump. what struck me over the last week was republicans on the hill who have been bending over backwards in senate and congress to give donald trump the benefit of the doubt. starting to break ranks. mitch mcconnell on the sunday shows suddenly wouldn't support the immigration ban the way it was, certainly wouldn't support donald trump about vladimir putin where he seemed to say putin is a killer, but so are u.s. presidents, so what's the difference? liz chaineney, daughter of dick cheney, had a tweet criticizing trump's comments on putin. when you talk to republican members of congress, they were saying, look, we want to give him the benefit of the doubt. i think 2 1/2 weeks in, republican members are getting pretty nervous that he's not getting it straightened out. >> if you heard rustling, we were trying to fix bill's mike. i hope all the sound came through because he was making some pretty good points. the president is also talking about negative polls and fake
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news. what he's doing is any time there's something that comes out against him, as you well know, he dismisses it as fake news. how much is that hurting democracy, i guess as a larger question, and does the republican party realize that is happening? what are they willing to do in order to fortify the foundations of democracy in this country? >> well, republican members of congress have their own polls and they talk to their own constituents. i think they have a sense that donald trump is keeping the support of his base but isn't winning over anybody else and he started at 46% so maybe he should try to win over more people, not gradually erode his support, which is happening now. i think the big story is republicans on the hill have been bending over backwards, they to want give him the benefit of the doubt. they don't want to jump ship i think when we have actual legislation coming up now, which will happen pretty soon, you'll see republican members of congress saying, you know what, i've got my own views on these things. i don't have to anymore sort of bend over backwards to simply
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support donald trump. >> another topic i have to get your opinion on is steve bannon and his position on the national security council. "the new york times" reported over the weekend that donald trump didn't exactly know he was signing an executive order that gave steve bannon a permanent seat on the committee. how does he not know, that number one? number two, why is it a big deal to have someone like bannon sit there on meetings of national security? >> if he didn't know it, it's a long order. it's four, five pages, a lot of legalese. he just thought, okay -- i'm not sure if they told him. it's a huge question. >> really? >> don't you think? it's a pretty unusual putting in effect a political strategist, not just letting him come to national security council meetings, david axelrod came to some of those, but making him a
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member in the national security council. trump's tweet this morning where he said, i'm in charge, i know what i'm doing, i'm not being manipulated by anybody else, he's very sensitive to that fact that steve bannon is donald trump's brain. >> you raise the point f he doesn't want him on the council, why doesn't he just kick him out? >> we'll see if he does that. i think he should get bill belichick on the council. he's disciplined, a good guy, good at comebacks and trump likes belichick, right? >> the patriots -- >> i know the west of america is in this politically correct, oh, we don't like belichick. >> you're going to get sick of winning. >> that is the patriots. >> that's what i think of the patriots. >> that is true with the patriots. not true with trump, but the patriots. >> bill kristol, thank you for being here in person. next we take you to capitol hill where widespread reaction to this weekend's halt of trump's executive order is in order over there. a deeper question is the president's response creating common ground for democrats and republicans? i'll ask nebraska senator deb
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institute honeymoon period may be over for republicans. right now cracks are starting to show in the president's relationship with lawmakers. adding to their concern, a growing number of angry americans. past condemnations of the courts. >> in judge carroll's case, it is where he came from. if it's polls that don't reflect, it's fake, the news stories are lies. this president can't accept anything that doesn't go his way and has a scorched early policy
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which is dangerous for a commander in chief. >> joining me now, republican nebraska senator deb fisher. thank you for joining us, number one. >> my pleasure. >> two, you've had a full weekend to chew over the halt to the immigration ban. have you changed your position on this or do you still feel like this was the right order for him to make? >> when we look at our national security, we have to make sure we know who's coming into this country. as a member of the armed services committee, i am fully aware of the chaotic situations that we have around this world. i called for a pause earlier on syrian refugees so we can make sure that that proper vetting can take place. when you have a country that you really don't have a central government governing the entire country, when people don't have the papers necessary to even go through vetting, we have to make sure that we can get the information about these refugees, have them go through the process, and then open our
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doors to the refugees who need to come here. >> how do you feel about the president calling the judge in seattle a so-called judge and really going after the court's decision to stay this ban and claiming that if anything does happen in this country that americans should blame the courts? >> well, you know, i believe the man's a judge. he was nominated. he was confirmed. he's a federal judge. >> and he was a confirmed -- nominated by george w. bush. >> yes. but judges are judges. they aren't so-called judges. they are judges. we have three co-equal branches of government. i don't agree with everything the courts do. americans don't agree with everything the courts do. but i show respect and for that branch of government, and we'll see how it all shakes out here in the future. >> have you reached out to the administration to ask them to respect the judicial system as well? >> i have not. i don't know if that's really my place to do it. i'm busy working here in the united states senate. >> well, you're part of his party. >> i'm here in the united states
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senate, working for nebraskans and trying to get work done that will benefit the people of this country. i'm focused in my committee assignments. like i said, i'm on armed services committee. i chaired the subcommittee on strategic forces which is a vital committee, especially in this day and age when we need to make sure our nuclear deterrents is safe and effective. that's what i'm going to work on, national security and economic security for our families. >> let's talk a little more about another topic, which is education and betsy devos' confirmation, which is coming up. do you believe she is the right person for education secretary? secondly, do you understand where maybe your colleagues in the republican party, murkowski and senator collins of maine, maybe don't think she is? >> i've had conversations with
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mrs. devos, i read through the transcript and i asked for assurances that she would support public schools. i'm a 24-year school board member in the state of nebraska. in nebraska we value local control, local decision-making. we have great public schools. we understand the importance of meeting the needs of children in those local districts and meeting those needs through the interaction of parents and teachers, school board members, and communities. so, i was assured, and reassured by mrs. devos, that she is not looking at any kind of federal mandate that would take away that local control we so value in nebraska, and i'm sure all across this country. and i look forward to working with her on implementing the every student succeeds act that we passed in 2015. i was one of 85 senators, bipartisan, that voted to pass that. and in that, i was able to get
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an amendment passed that, again, emphasized the importance of local control. and i want to have a department of education here at the federal level that steps back, doesn't mandate on our states and local communities and our local school boards. and i believe that mrs. devos has given me those assurances. she understands the importance of that. and i look forward to working with her. >> senator, the junior senator in your state, senator ben sass came up strongly over the weekend condemning donald trump's assertion that we are just as bad as russia when he said that, you know, we -- america does bad and terrible things, too, when bill o'reilly asked him if vladimir putin was a killer. why -- what is your sense of why this president is going above and beyond, bending over backwards, if you will, to stay away from criticizing the russian president and to almost
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give him an excuse? as we know, there's -- since 2000 there's been a couple dozen suspicious deaths of journalists in russia who came out against the government there. donald trump has made no secret about going after journalists and his distaste for any news that doesn't agree with him here. do you find that this is a dangerous path he is heading down? >> i know that putin is a thug and he runs a gas station. and the prices are low right now. and so he is going to continue to be belligerent, he's going to continue to be aggressive. i've led a kodel to eastern europe, the czech republic and romania. we have a very full understanding of who vladimir putin is. and he is not a friend of the united states. it's up to president trump to establish relationships with foreign leaders, but also to recognize them for who they are.
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and i believe that president trump will recognize -- or does recognize right now who putin is and he will develop that relationship and he will know how to confront him. >> very quickly, what makes you say that he does recognize who putin is when he hasn't said so publicly? >> well, i think when you're at the beginning of an administration, you really don't want to go out and start attacking people that you're going to have to work with. when i came to the united states -- when i came to the united states senate, i told nebraskans i was going to work across the aisle. i'm going to work with republicans, i'm going to work with democrats. we have differing opinions on many things but we have to work together. and i'm not going to attack them in public. we're going to try to get together. i think it's important that we show that we can work together. we can be respectful. we can be civil. and the american people need to see that. so, i am hopeful that president
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trump will have very firm, very harsh, if need be, conversations with putin to let him know that here in the united states we understand who he is, we understand what we view as his agenda in trying to re-establish some kind of empire for himself, and that we will not allow that to happen. our allies need to hear that. and i think here in the senate, many of us have been very, very forthright in making sure that our allies understand that we are there for them against putin. >> we will see if they are convinced by that. senator deb fischer, republican of nebraska, thank you for joining me. staying on russia, the president digging another hole with critics who do say he is too cozy with that country. this time getting eye rolls from fellow republicans, like ben sass, who i just mentioned, and former military officials for comparing america's conduct to russia's.
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to commanders at macdill air force base. the president assured his commitment to military families by thanking them for their service and said, quote, we have your back. families blocked from entering the u.s. by the president's immigration order, on the other hand, are arriving in the country during that order's halt. take a look at this video showing this family of syria arriving at jfk airport this morning. the family blocked from the u.s. last week have now been reunited with their allentown-based family with the help of pennsylvania congressman charlie dent and the aclu. to california, uber, twitter, google and apple are among the 97 tech giants to file an amicus brief earlier today to the ninth u.s. circuit court of appeals in san francisco. the order challenges trump's executive order on immigration and calls it a, quote, significant departure from the principles of fairness and predictability that have governed the immigration system. the companies argue is negatively affects their businesses as studies show an
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estimated 34.7% of silicon valley employees are foreign-born. neiman marcus drops ivanka trump's fashion line, not too long after nordstrom announced they were no longer selling her products in the wake of #grabyour degree wallet. that has mobilized shoppers to avoid shopping at any stores that sell trump products. to houston where the new england patriots came out on top after a stunning comeback against the atlanta falcons. quarterback tom brady now holds five super bowl wins, a new nfl record. just this morning he spoke out about it. >> it was just a great team performance. i'm so proud to be a part of this team. you know, faced a lot of adversities and came out with a lot of mental toughness. moving back to russia, president trump's tone on russian relations has congress
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worried on both sides of the aisle. the president threw fuel on the fire over the weekend when asked about putin's record on dealing with political opposition. take a listen. >> a lot of killers, we got a lot of killers. you think our country's so innocent? >> joining me now national security and foreign policy reporter for "the atlantic," julia. i know you used to be based in moscow and this is not new news because donald trump said something almost exactly the same back in december of 2015 to "morning joe," but there is a long list of suspicious deaths that have come out of russia in just the past 17 years. i believe 24 journal u.s. who is have died under suspicious conditions, that includes anna writing about political corruption in the government, shot four times, one in the head, in the virt in her
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apartment building, and a number of others. when you hear donald trump talk about killers in this country, what is your reaction as a reporter who's been there and someone who has covered these things? >> it's funny he said -- well, i probably shouldn't say it's funny. but it's interesting that he said this at a time when one of putin's more critics is in a coma in a hospital in moscow having been poisoned, it seems, a second time. he was poisoned a year ago, he survived and now it appears they returned to finish the job. this isn't surprising coming from donald trump. he has talked about putin being a strong leader and he didn't pack off these claims when it was pointed out to him that strong leader, in putin's case meant killing or jailing his opponents. you know, it seems to kind of jibe with the president's notion of a strong and good leader as a kind of action hero who, you know, kicks his opponents in the throat. and what's worrying is, you
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know, does he think these are good tactics for an american president to use? it's interesting also having this come from a republican president. usually you see this kind of moral equivalence coming from the left, where you say, well -- or actually from the russians. in russia it's called what aboutism where you're saying, well, america thinks it's so high and mighty and morally superior when, in fact, you know, the cia has launched coups abroad, killed political opponents of western political orders, it has killed how many people in iraq, you know, starting that frivolous war. drawing that equivalence is something you see from people on the far left or russia. >> usually the republican party comes out and just completely pans any democrat who is not coming out very strongly with the idea of american exceptionalism. i know you've been following this for a long time. i was there when donald trump was laughing about the idea of
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killing journalists. putin kills journalists. no, he doesn't. the would i want to see them dead? no, i wouldn't. he was saying this at a rally in michigan in december and the entire crowd was cheering at this idea of journalists dying. meanwhile, we're sitting in the middle of this arena. i bring that story up to say, donald trump isn't facing any blowback from his own party when it comes to this. and my question to you is, is that going to mean he's just never going to walk away from -- or what is it that's going to get dthd trump to say, you know what, vladimir putin might not be on our side? >> you know, i don't know about that, but i think the key difference between donald trump and vladimir putin is vladimir putin doesn't advertise killing journalists. he, in fact, has a lot of plausible deniability. he's never pulled a trigger on anybody himself. he's never put pulonium in
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anybody's tea himself. this just happens under his watch. so he both has plausibility for it. he never talks about it or brags about it. he kind of demurs when this is brought up. donald trump, on the other hand, brags about it, tries to sick his followers on the media. and i think that that implies a kind of lack of seriousness about this, if you were actually going to kill journalists i don't know he'd be bragging about it. the most dangerous thing is creating an atmosphere, much that putin did, creating an atmosphere that people think it's okay and commendable to go after journalists or critics in a violent method. >> what does vladimir putin bring to the table that might make donald trump -- might be the reason he is being so overtly friendly to that country? >> well, it's just a question of when not if. every american president who has encountered vladimir putin in the kremlin, including barack obama, including george w. obama administration have thought they've wanted to reset
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relations with him. and inevitably, it frays. mostly because vladimir putin wants to be the senior partner. and he's already talking to the trump administration as if he is the senior partner. at some point i think this is going to rankle president trump. i think he's going to realize he's being talked down to. he's not going to like the humiliation. i think there's going to be some kind -- what i mean to say, it's going to be some kind of personal spark, some trigger that's personal, some kind of personal humiliation that sets him off and causes the relationship to fray. >> julia ioffe, a truly incredible journalist. follow her on twitter. read her stories in "the atlantic," it's been a privilege. thank you. next up, can order come to the white house or does this new president thrive on chaos? the new reporting driving the week, straight ahead. and i know a thing or two about trading. so i trade with e*trade, where true traders trade
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phil rutgers, white house bureau chief for "the washington post." i don't know if it's just me, but whenever i read that tweet, i have an image of cartman on his try cycle. >> that's quite an image. >> is that wrong? let's talk more seriously about your article. it is extraordinarily serious. who is calling the shots behind the scenes and who has donald trump's ear. my question to you is, is it steve bannon or is the power now shifting from bannon over to reince priebus. >> at the moment it seems to be a little bit both of them. and partly this is based on a directive from the president who grew frustrated with chaos and in-fighting within the staff. he wanted things to be a little more streamlined so he made clear to the senior staff that reince priebus is in charge of the operations, of the structure, of the process of creating policy, but nevertheless steve bannon is the chief strategist, he's the big
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thinker. he's the guy helping advise trump on what that policy is and sort of the short-term and the long-term strategic goals of the white house. they're trying to put on a good face and show they're working together. i talked to both of them on friday as well as some other staffers. there's a real effort to project a sense of professionalism and competence out of this white house. >> for viewers who might not be paying as close attention as we are, tell them why folks on capitol hill might want to see the power shift more towards reince priebus and away from steve bannen? >> well, priebus is a more known quantity on capitol hill. he's been a fixture of the republican establishment as the chairman of the republican national committee for six years. before coming to the white house. and he operates in a more traditional structure at the white house. he has a protocol, he has staff, there's sort of a checklist of things that have to get done in order for actions to be signed or steps to be taken with the hill. and i think that congress is much more comfortable operating in that environment, whereas
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bannon is a little more slapdash. he's seen internally inside the white house as a real generous, as a savant, as a smart guy guiding trump in the right direction, but the lawmakers on capitol hill don't know him as well and just are not as trusting of what he's doing. >> probably because he headed up breitbart for a long time -- >> exactly right. >> and made it his goal tearing down the establishment, republicans, paul ryan included. moving on from that, a moment ago donald trump was just addressing centcom. in that he talked about -- he talked about radical islamic terror and then made a pretty false claim that the media doesn't cover terrorist attacks because we have our reasons. can we assert once and for all that the media covers terror attacks, the media doesn't hide the news, the media is not out to discredit donald trump for things that are happening that we just don't want the public to see? >> you're exactly right. i was watching the president's speech on television and
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thinking, what on evert is he talking about? of course we cover terror attacks. it's one of the biggest news stories every time it happens around the world. i don't know -- i don't know where he gets his information. in his speech we should note he did not mention any examples. there was no evidence that the media is somehow ignoring terrorist attacks in an effort to collude with isis or whatever he's imagining. we do cover terrorist attacks. >> add that to the list of thing he says without evidence to back it up. voter fraud is another one of those things. thank you for joining us. we to want get to this. i hope you were watching saturday. if you weren't, we're going to show you, late night taking jabs at the new administration, from moose to lambs. melissa mccarthy did not disappoint for "snl's" return this weekend. >> i'm not here to be your buddy. i'm here to swallow gum and i'm here to take names. my words too big, i got to show you in pictures?
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before we go, let's see your responses to our microsoft pulse question. in case you forgot it, after tom brady's fifth super bowl win, is he the greatest quarterback of all time? please say no, guys. come o what did you say? 85% said no. you're on my side. so much winning, i'm sick of winning. i said it. thanks for voting. that wraps things up for me in this hour. i'm katy tur. follow me on twitter if you want to find out crazy things that happen. >> you love tom brady and want to give her a piece of your mind -- >> you can do that as well. kate snow. >> i'm ambivalent. five really, they need to do it again? >> i shouldn't say anything, i'm a lakers fan but i'm sick of the patriots. i'm sorry. >> i do appreciate the talent, though. we're going to get to the super bowl this hour as well, but we have a lot of other stuff going on. good afternoon, i'm kate snow. top stories this hour. president trump, the commander in chief, addressing high-level military leaders at central command today.
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trump reupped his commitment to give the military what it needs to keep the country safe. those comments and a few comments that raised some eyebrows coming up next. also this afternoon, at any moment we're waiting for the justice department to file its brief on behalf of the federal government defending president trump's temporary travel ban. about an hour from now, didn't i just say we were going to talk about the super bowl? the champions make their triumphant return, the super bowl-winning patriots arrive back in foxborough with their legendary quarterback, love him or hate him, tom brady. did last night cement his legacy as the greatest of all time? katy tur says no. we'll have a live report from massachusetts coming up. let's start down in tampa where the president spoke to central command. my colleague kristen welker standing by there. it was a relatively short speech, about ten minutes. what did he include? >> it was a short speech, kate. it was si


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