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/s >> a recent law brings a wave of felons to the county jail, creating challenges and threats. >> we're seeing greater propensity for smuggling, greater propensity for assault on officers and staff which we didn't see before. >> a family man gets a decade in jail for manufacturing weapons. >> they're called home grown guns, you can legally make for yourself. you just can't sell them. and that's where i went wrong.
>> and a meth addict gives up a prized possession. >> i traded it for $20 and a cheap high. >> but now jail introduces both of these men to a cowboy. >> everybody deserves an opportunity to have that second chance. >> some wild horses. >> watch yourself. >> and the opportunity of a lifetime. >> and these horses show you who you are as a person. if you don't like what you see, you have to start making changes.
>> sunrise at the rio cosumnes correctional center near sacramento brings the nays and pounding hoofz of mustangs who weeks earlier were running wild and free across vast stretches of western plains. they are sights and sounds rarely experienced at a county jail. the horses share something in common with the 2000 men and women incarcerated at rio cosumnes. each one of them is here against their will, but has an opportunity for a new beginning and possibly a better life. rio cosumnes is one of two jails run by the sacramento county sheriff's office. unlike most jails where the majority of inmates are only accused of crimes and are awaiting trial, about 65% of the inmates at rio cosumnes are convicted and serving sentences. that's due in part to a 2011 law
known as ab-109. it was created to help relieve the california state prison systems once dangerously overcrowded conditions. now thousands of inmates who would normally have gone to prison are diverted to county jails like rio cosumnes. the law is drastically changed the makeup of the inmate population. with more convicts serving hard time as opposed to shorter term nonconvicted inmates still awaiting trial. >> it has brought about some very unique challenges to us. number one is now our jails are like state prisons because before county jails, at least in california, people would do three to six months in county jail. well, now we have folks sentenced to 17 years. we're seeing state prison activities. we're seeing folks running their criminal enterprises at least trying to from inside of our facilities. we're seeing greater propensity for smuggling, we're seeing greater pro pence ilt for assault on officers and staff which we didn't see before.
our officers aren't trained to be prison guards. they're trained to be custodians for short-term inmates. it is creating a paradigm shift for local jail facilities. >> ab-109 is controversial among staff and inmates alike. one of its provisions has proven popular. it provides funding for several new rehabilitation programs that could given mates a chance to find jobs on the outside despite the sigma of serving time. that's why the horses are here. >> cut that thing off. let's go. this is the ranch that was developed by the sacramento county sheriff's department and the bureau of land management. what we do out here is we taken mates and i train them how to train wild horses to become usable by the general public. >> the bureau of land management rounds up wild horses throughout
the western united states when their population becomes unsustainable. they are brought to various training facilities to transition from wild to domestic, and eventually to be adopted. most of these facilities are civilian-run. rio cosumnes is the first top rate from a county jail. joe miezener who most here describe as a genuine cowboy runs the program. >> good. i've been training horses for 35 plus years. i've been working with inmates for about six months now. i never worked with inmates before. how do you want to do it? >> stay towards the front of the horse. >> why do i want to do it like that? >> so you don't get kicked. >> i think this is a huge opportunity to help guys that probably don't have the mind-set that they're worth anything or have anything to offer. and if they can help these horses become domesticated and usable, they're going to get to
know what it feels like to accomplish something. >> there you go. now put your pad up. >> see why you'd want to carry that pad like that? these inmates, some of them have ever been around a horse, never rode a horse. we teach them horse manship from the ground up. >> you've got that down, man. >> this program is a win/win, not only for the wild horses, but also for these gentlemen to learn a skill set that not everybody has. >> nash tag had never been around horses until he joined the program a few days earlier. and just like jobs on the outside, rookies start at the bottom. >> we're picking up rode apples and/or horse manure, yeah. this is how you start in the program, you know. i don't know how much, if they appreciate it or not, but i'm sure they do, you know. they don't want to walk around on their own [ bleep ] all day.
it is slightly uncomfort ability at first. i was watching to make sure they weren't sneaking up on me or anything like that. >> under ab-109 dak will serve his two-year sen dense for auto theft and forgery at rio cosumnes instead of state prison. his prior convictions included burglary, forgery and theft from an elder. but he says all of it was fueled by a methamphetamine addiction. >> i was stealing, and any money that i could pull in, i would spend on drugs. whether it was from jewelry, whatever the heck i could get my hands on to sell. food didn't really matter at that point, you know? you're just like, i need to take care of my addictions first. that's when you know that it's really got a hold on you. it's got its hands on you like this and it's strangling you. you've got to do whatever you can to get that money because i need to feel high. i need to feel that effect.
and i'm not ready to leave jail. i wouldn't be ready for a home detention, i wouldn't be ready to leave this here facility right now at all. because i would start getting right back into it and not care. >> nope, nope. there you go. turn yourself the other way. >> now, instead of being strung out on the streets, dake is up at dawn to work on the ranch alongside his bunk mate robert kerry. >> i grew up on a horse farm so i have understanding making sure you're not around the back end and stuff like that. just an awareness. it comes from just being around them. >> there's a good way and bad way with the wild horses as opposed to domestic. the chances of getting kicked are higher for sure. >> like nash dake, cary is also
an ab-109 inmate. carey has been in the five-month old horse program since its inception and plays a sort of big brother role to dake. >> everybody is instructing everybody as they go along. if i got a guy that's going to be with me for a long time, i can mold him and then i can pass that on and say, okay, you want to take these guys and show them the basics that you've already learned. and i can move on to other guys and show them a little more advanced. >> everything that joe has taught us i've been able to train and get the new guys to follow through. nash is getting used to being around the horses. he hasn't done this at all. >> we learn to work together as a team to get jobs done and also just follow rules and instructions. i mean, that's probably why they're here, is because they said, no, i'm not going to follow the rules. i'm going to do it my way. now they're learning through going through these experiences the rewards of following along like they're supposed to. >> we go with the grain and flip. >> and everybody deserves an
opportunity to have that second chance. working with these mustangs, they teach you how to respect their space. they teach you also that they need leadership, and that's what i hope that these guys receive, that they have to have leadership skills and qualities to be successful at training these horses. they could take those leadership skills and just be a better person in the world. >> i look forward to whatever lesson is going to be today. i learned some kind of lesson out here, whether it's lesson of nature, lesson of life, something. there's always something to pull out of this. it's definitely a experience of a lifetime. >> coming up. >> nice and slow. >> the inmates are presented with a major challenge. while others react to a law that has dramatically altered the jail. rather be in prison.
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it's the capital of california, sacramento is at the heart of the world's eighth largest economy. while decisions made here could have global impact, nestled among its downtown sky scrapers and government buildings is a reminder of local concerns. the main branch of the sacramento county jail system houses about 2000 men and women, like traditional jails, most of them are only charged with crimes and are awaiting trial and the resolution of their cases. unlike other county jails in california, sacramento's jail is also affected by ab-109, a law that diverts convicts to county jails. >> everyone has a different mentality.
people have been hard criminals for 19, 20, 30 years in the prison system, used to a different environment once they're incarcerated. they're absolutely teaching the pretrial inmates, first time comeers, that wouldn't be taught to them by the prison mentality. people who are brand-new, felony drunk driving he could be celled up with a guy who had been in prison the past 20 years but he's teaching ways to get around the system, create weapons, fight authority figures and be a criminal as opposed to rehabilitation process. >> but ab-109 has also come with significant funding for a large number of new rehabilitation programs, providing inmates with everything from drug rehab and parenting skills to reentry counseling and job training programs. one of the more unique programs occurs 30 miles south of the downtown facility at the county's sprawling branch jail, the rio cosumnes correctional center. >> you water those mares there.
>> ab-109 inmate robert carey has been in the horse program since it was implemented five months earlier. its goal is to make wild horses rounded up by the bureau of land management suitable for adoption. >> we leave in the morning, we get back at night, we're tired and sore, but it makes the day go really fast. >> and that's important as carey is only one year into a 12-year sentence for manufacturing and selling firearms and high capacity magazines without a license. carey says he learned to make guns from his father who did so legally on their pennsylvania farm. >> it was part of our everyday life. we'd go to the range and spend the whole day at the rifle range, pickup brass and reload them. that's what i did when i was a kid behind him. i would be out on the range and picking up buckets of brass so it could be loaded. i think the smell of gun powder made me like it a lot or something. >> carey said he had been
manufacturing his own hunting guns for years. >> they're called home grown guns that you can legally make one for yourself. you just can't sell them and that's where i went wrong. >> carey says he became financially stressed when he and his pregnant wife separated with three other children to support. he says a friend put him in touch with somebody willing to buy his guns. >> i was looking for a way out, you know, to feed my kids and to survive. >> you knew it was illegal, right? >> yeah, i did know that was illegal. i did. and i was like my back was against the wall and i just figured i'll do it just to get back on my feet again until i can get working. i said, well, i'll do it. so, i met with him and i sold him one. and he was like now i want another one to go with it so i have a different caliber. i built him another one, not knowing he was an atf agent and that's where it all went bad for
me. >> carey says he sold the under cover agent three semiautomatic assault rifles along with high capacity magazines. for the final transaction carey met the man in a parking lot of the department store. >> i didn't get 2 feet from my vehicle. next thing i knew there were 30 vehicles surrounding me and holding the same guns that i was building. it was, it was a different day for sure. >> weren't you afraid this person that you don't even know you're selling guns to was going to commit a crime with these guns, possibly kill somebody with these guns? >> to be honest with you, until i got arrested, for some reason it never processed my mind. he said he was into going to the range and liked to target practice a lot. so, i screwed up. honestly, you know, i did something i shouldn't have done. >> carey, dump it out and put it back in the pin right there. >> he says working at the horse ranch helps make his 12-year
sentence more bearable. today joe miezener who runs the program and his inmate trainees are taking on a special project. training a new group of horses on an accelerated timetable so that they will be ready for an upcoming adoption event. >> howdy, welcome to my swamp. >> the bureau of management is bringing four new phillys here. 30 days for training is pretty fast, but a younger horse, they adapt rather quickly, and i and the bureau of land management thought it would be easier for them to gentle yearlings, they're babies, only a year. still wild, tough to get to. >> i can grab another panel. >> i'm looking forward to it. it's exciting to be able to take them off the land they're coming from and get a second chance, kind of like us. we're getting a second chance and they are, too. for me it's kind of cool. a lot of similarities, you know
what i mean? we got that wild side we're working on and we're trying to work on that, with them the same thing. >> i'm excited because with these yearlings, it gives these guys the opportunity to gain confidence. you can imagine if they're going to take on a philly that's about 3 1/2 feet tall compared to a thousand-pound four-year-old wild horse that's never been touched, it's pretty intimidating. not that these guys couldn't stand to be intimidated a little bit, but trust me, those yearlings, they can kick and bite and pretty much ruin your day if they decide to also. so, they'll find that out. >> nice and slow. >> to reduce the horses' anxiety during the drop-off process, miezener has decided to have the inmates watch from a distance. >> so we just try to keep it as low-key as possible. everybody is new, go slow, stay back, keep it calm. when they first get here, we
have to give them a chance. they've been in the trailer for about 3 1/2 hours. they got taken out of a herd of probably 100 horses. that is there's all kinds of new stimuli. >> after a few minutes, all four phillys have exited the trailer without incident. >> well, they came in pretty smooth, but they're a lot bigger yearling phillys than i thought what we call a long yearling, they're closer to two years old than they are a year. i think it's going to be a little more challenging. absolutely, these phillys are larger, they're a little bit wiser and they're not going to convert real quickly. it's going to be challenging, but i think we're up to it. >> i mean, mr. joe said it a few times out here, there's going to be life changing experiences out here that happen that are going to determine who you are as a person. and these horses show you who you are as a person. if you don't like what you see, you have to make -- start making
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the rio cosumnes correctional center considered the county's branch jail is in the heart of the central valley farming belt. once a world war ii training base for army pilots, it's a collection of barracks and other kinds of housing units that look and feel more like a prison than a jail. deputy woods has worked at both locations. >> at the main jail it's more
cell and more floors. and everyone's confined. everyone is agitated, everyone is upset, everyone is mad. kind of like a dark and gloomy place. here when you come here it's more outside, fresh air, so it's a huge difference. >> rio cosumnes also houses the majority of the jail's ab-109 inmates or those who would normally be serving lengthy sentences in a california state prison. one of the benefits is that most are now closer to home. so they might get more visits. >> i'm going to be hahn efts, prison, the word prison kind of scares me. so i've never been. so, um, i don't want to go. but ab-109 is close to my family is closer so it's kind of like hey, i'm in prison, kind of feels here. >> but not all ab-109 inmates are happy with the law. one common reason is because prisons are structured for long-term stays with more privileges and relative comforts than are typically found at jails. >> i would much rather be in
prison. i'm actually going through a court process to try to get my sentence switched because the simple fact there's conjugal visits. there's contact visits. >> and since carey mcconnell who has had drug related convictions and is convicted of controlled substance for sale, not being able to touch loved ones. >> i was clean and sober, i relapsed and just a very, very difficult thing for me. >> mcconnell benefits, however, from the job training programs that are part of the ab-109 legislation. he works in the jail's computer aided design print shop which contains state of the art equipment along with professional instruction. >> so, before you mask it, what you want to do is just to even pull that off. >> there is another downside for mcconnell. as a nonviolent inmate he could be eligible for release after serving one-third of his sentence if he were in state prison. as a sacramento county inmate,
he must serve at least half his sentence. that's because in california, individual counties can mandate their own early release policies and often they are not the same as those adopted for the state's prison system. >> i'm doing five years out here as opposed to i'd be doing three years in prison. and i have a family and two young kids that, like i said, i accept responsibility for the mistakes that i've made, but they're out there waiting for me. >> i'd say the majority of the individuals that i've talked to would much rather be in prison. they just get a lot more freedoms. they have their own personal television or head phones, some comforts of home they don't get here. there's a lot of infrastructure that a prison has that we're kind of playing catch up to get to. there's a lot of efforts being made to make life, i think, better, give people things to do throughout the day. but prisons have been doing this for much longer time than the county jail. >> one small privilege at rio cosumnes is the ability to check out a musical instrument.
♪ >> nash dake says he's been playing music since he was 7 years old. >> this is what's called a classical guitar. it has nylon strings on it. it's a pretty decent guitar. it has pretty good intonation on it. >> what they do when they come to the window, they check out a guitar. i inspect, make sure all the strings are there, all the fret, all the -- basically the equipment is in good use, and then when they return it, we inspect it again and make sure everything is still there. >> this is what i'm use fogger a difficult tar pick, a bent sorry 0 card. >> good stuff going on. he can play just about anything. we even brought a spoon over there, tried that out, too. anything, he can make anything happen there, he's really talented. ♪ >> dake has been sentenced to
two years as a ab-109 inmate for auto theft and forgery. >> you know, what's kind of brought me back basically is the dope, you know, the meth. i know what happens, you know. i know what not to do and i know, you know, i basically know what gets me into trouble. it's just -- it's hard. it's hard out there. i was at milo est level when i traded a guitar at the pawn shop for money. i took that money and turned around and bought drugs with that. my mom actually bought me that guitar, you know, when i was a senior in high school, and she bought this guitar for me for $180. i traded it for $20 and a cheap high. it broke my heart honestly when i couldn't pay to get that guitar back. i freaked out, you know? that made me want to use more drugs to forget that i did that. >> dake says he hopes ab-109
will help him do better in life. in addition to his involvement in the wild horse program, he's taken advantage of other parts of the law as well. >> being sentenced as ab-109, there's all kinds of reentry services, all kinds of stuff to get you back into society in a correct and positive way. that's what i'm looking to do. ironically, i asked god to save my life, and then i ended up stealing a car and coming out here. and my life is being saved and changed. so, it's cool. >> coming up. >> i want her to trust me. >> cowboy shows the inmates how it's done. >> he's a little bit afraid. try not to look at her so much. i want her to just reach out and touch my finger. . i talked to my doctor and found a missing piece in my asthma treatment with breo. once-daily breo prevents asthma symptoms. breo is for adults with asthma not well controlled on a long-term asthma control medicine,
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firing going on on the range next to us. >> while deputies assigned to the jail never carry guns, many of them will eventually row tail to street patrol. >> you hear gun fire all day every day. you have a whole lot of training going on. other departments come here and interdepartment training goes on here day and night. >> we're located right next to the branch jail, rio cosumnes correctional center and the horse program. all three are in close proximity. at the jail or at the house program, you can hear guns going off all day long. you can hear the shots. >> you'd be amazed at how quickly these horses adapt to gun fire. they have to adapt to survive in the wild. if it didn't eat them, what's the point of getting worried? i'm going to save my energy to run if i have to. >> lately joe misner's energy has been dedicated to fulfilling the request to the bureau of land management to train four
phillies in 30 days for an upcoming adoption event. >> there we go. that's the easiest way to rope a horse right there. the challenge first of all when they got here, we weren't prepared. we thought they were going to be smaller. our fences weren't tall enough. we had to put up site boards so they wouldn't jump out of the corral. we had to bring our a-game into the program. >> now that misner who has been training horses since he was a young boy has spent a few days of one on one time with the phillies, he's ready to introduce them to his team of inmate trainees. >> the inmates are going to be working with two-year-old phillies that have hall terz on them. lead ropes, learning how to interact. ultimately the goal today is to get these phillies responding to the guys on the ground. these guys will be learning how to breathe, relax, don't get scared, you're not going to get run over. get out of the way real quick, things like that are going to be going on. and we'll be able to make progress so that we can get them adopted to the general public. and you'll see when we start
working with these two-year-olds, that these horses are really flighty and scared because they just don't understand. okay, guys, gather round. i'm drawing her to me. i'm trying to draw her attention over towards me here. see that right there? that's good. >> misner shows the inmates how to use a long piece of pvc pipe to build trust. >> it's an extension of your arm. it's an opportunity to touch that animal because nothing has touched that horse other than another horse. so, it's a way to desensitize these animals and keep us safe, you know. we can touch them from six, 7 feet away and not get kicked or run over. she's acting kind of spooked so i'll take it down. i'm reading her body language trying to see what she's going to react. that's okay. stay with it right there. she's facing up. she faced away, i put pressure on. let go. don't try to hold onto it, okay? just let go because that's what's going to happen. they're going to get a little
wild, a little western here. i just keep going to the point where i can touch her, i can paton her, and i can get -- work my way up to where she'll reach out and touch my hand, see? i'm drawing this one and this hand is coming forward. i want her to touch my hand. just want her to know i'm okay because we're going to -- we're just going to connect right here for a second. she's a little bit afraid. try not to look at her so much. i want her to just reach out and touch my finger. there we go. we just touched. so, i'm just going to spend time with her like this. this is the main thing that's just showing her that by being next to her, it's okay. and here in a couple days we'll be brushing her and leading her around and petting on her. >> some of the things i thought i knew growing up with domestic horses is totally different than what dks for example, looking at the horses' eyes, i look at them and walk up to them. we know now the wild horses think i'm a preditor. i know not to look at them.
no eye contact. >> you walk towards her right hip. there you go, pickup on your lead rope. there, relax. these guys are touching wild horses for the first time today and they're doing a great job. but the change is moment by moment. >> you can offer your hand up to her. don't pull that rope. it's okay. it's all right. just stand your ground a little bit. >> i was a little apprehensive at first because i wasn't sure how she was going to react. it was really cool knowing she's the second person to ever touch her is kind of cool. so, i'm looking forward to getting in there and doing some more work with her. >> just relax. >> nash dake is still at the observer stage. >> there you go. just relax. >> i'm not that worried about getting in there with a horse. it's exciting to see that and to see i'm actually going to be part of that and have my own horse i'm going to break, you know? >> they're learning how to be leaders right here. they're learning how to offer themselves up and to give something back to something, and then their reward is the way
that horse responds to them. so, i don't think they've ever had that in their life, you know. i think for these guys, learning how to read the situation is key to their life, and i hope that they'll carry these lessons on when they leave here. >> coming up. >> watch yourself. you're getting in a bad position there. >> it's been a challenge for myself learning some of the techniques. >> carey is not a young guy, he's in his 40s already, a little set in his ways. >> robert carey and nash dake both confront some difficult issues. >> there have been times i questioned whether this program is right for me. ate. i over-swept." [ laughter ] yes, even the awkward among us deserve some laughter. and while it's okay to nibble in public, a lady only dines in private. try the name your price tool from progressive. it gives you options based on your budget. uh-oh. discussing finances is a big no-no. what, i'm helping her save money!
you do not want to be in this place here. >> nobody ever asks for long-term stay at the rio cosumnes correctional center. it's one of two large jail facilities run by the sacramento county sheriff's office. but robert carey and nashe dake have made the most of it. >> we usually move everything out of the way at dinner time and we end up -- >> yeah, this is our table. it doubles as a table for us. >> spend a lot of time playing cards lately. >> carey is spending time for illegally selling firearms. he wishes he reached out for help instead. >> i had other avenues. a man has pride, you know, caveman style. we don't ask for help, we don't ask for directions, you know. >> as a trainee in the wild horse program, carey knows that
not asking for help can lead too big problems for both him and la nina, the recently arrived philly he has been working with. when it comes to help for horses there are fewer better people to ask than joe misner. >> we need people who are teachable and he has a little time left on his sentence. i told him i want him here as long as he possibly can. >> with another three years before he's eligible for parole, he has the chance to become one of misner's most experienced trainers. his goal today is to get a lead rope on la nina. >> watch that hip. look at her ear. she's trying to tell you she's not so sure about trying to be caught this morning. carey is the kind of guy who will go after the job and stay on it all day. he tries to think ahead and come up with problem solving situations. that's a good thing to some point. but you also have to be able to take instruction and not go
beyond that instruction. relax. watch yourself. hesitate there for a few minutes. okay, go back to that same position and hesitate. watch yourself. you're getting in a bad position there. hang on. you may not believe it, but you have some emotion coming out of you. don't go over to the nose. stay to your right a little bit. there you go, touch the shoulder. now walk away. walk away. see how she's drawn to you? i know you want to catch her. she knows you want to catch her. but don't go to catch her, okay? he's kind of used to doing his own thing. carey is not a young guy. he's in his 40s already, a little set in his ways. so, him coming in and having to take direction and stay on task and not think past what was being asked of him, he's had to work at it. and he has. he's really come to the -- he says things like, i thought i better check with you before i went and did this. that's exactly what i want to
hear. okay, now reach just slightly under, petting her neck and grab your halter rope. there you go, good. >> it's been a challenge for myself learning some of these new techniques. mr. joel stepped in, this is a little easier way. why didn't i try that? it's amazing, his ability. >> act like you don't even have to guide her now. >> nashe dake is still in the early stages of the program. he says he was nervous around horses when he first came to the ranch. >> these other guys are a little bit more progressed and so he was wondering at what point am i going to be, you know, involved, really involved in this situation besides picking up manure. but that kind of depends on them. and i think he's realizing that. >> be patient with her, be patient with yourself. you're fine. >> there have been times when i've questioned whether or not this program was right for me. that was when i was still -- i
was afraid of the horses, honestly. it's a big animal. it's got a lot of power. but then i realized that you've got to take their fear and carry -- their sensitivity and use it as a tool to work with them. you can't be scared. >> dake has been gaining experience by working with some of the domesticated horses misner keeps at the ranch. >> i've been working with these animals, you learn a lot about yourself. the animal ends up being a reflection of who you are. so, if you're not confident, calm, caring and compassionate about what you're doing, the horse is going to know that. i mean, it's changed my attitude towards life. it's like when i leave here, i want to get a job. i want to start working. i want to be property i have. i want to be an active member of society. i don't want to sit there and waste my life with methamphetamine. there's no point in that.
it's ruined a lot of things. i'm making the necessary changes in order to be somebody. >> everybody needs to know that they're worth something. and just because you've made mistakes doesn't mean you can't change. and a lot of times when you're in a situation that your life is spiraling out of control, you think this is never going to change. this is the way it's going to be the rest of my life. and you don't know that until the heat gets turned up and you have to either change or stay. but these animals, they touch you. and i see him hugging on his horse. he has more empathy now, more understanding. he's willing to put himself out there for that horse and it's changing him. >> coming up. la nina leaves the ranch. and both the inmates and the phillies confront one of their biggest challenges yet. >> there you go.
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it's another day and another important lesson for the inmates involved with the horse program at the rio cosumnes correctional center near sacramento. >> you guys ready for today? >> yes. >> did we lose some horses today? we lose two horses today, two horses. >> a month earlier, joe misner and the inmates were asked to train four phillies on an accelerated schedule. 30 days instead of the usual 120 days, a coming adoption event. >> you have to pet her like she's your girlfriend, not like you're smack being her around, buddy. >> misner feels like they beat the odds by having two phillies ready to go. >> you have to take into mind these guys have not had years and years of working with wild horses. so, we have a school of hard
knocks where they are learning from me telling them, no, get in this position, move back, get thin that position. they have to figure that out for results to happen. i'm extremely pleased with the progress that these guys are showing. >> but the day brings one of the most challenging lessons for the inmates. >> today what we're going to do is we brought our horse trailer in. we'll teach them how to load and off load in the trailer a little bit. we'll be doing some time with that. and then we'll load up those two phillies, get them shipped off, they'll be adopted tomorrow hopefully. saturday they'll find a new home. >> which two are going today? >> lanina and dot. >> sad to see them go. >> robert carey has been working with lanina. >> you can offer your hand up to her. don't pull that rope. it's okay. it's all right. just stand your ground a little bit. >> how are you doing in there, carey? >> good.
good and sad at the same time. >> why is that? >> because she's leaving. when i started, i found out she had a soft spot where she leans into you. when their ears are forward, they're really calm and relaxed. she's gotten a lot better. before wihen she first started she started biting. now she's got it all figured out. >> those the two phillies have become more domesticated, misner anticipates having them file into a small transport trailer is going to be hard considering they were running wild only a month earlier. >> mr. torres, hand off to mr. torres and you can hang out and watch and see how this is going. that's for sure. >> though carey has worked with lanina, misner decides to use hector torres, a more experienced inmate for this last task. >> carey has a strong desire to be doing this, but him and i have talked and he's just not physically at the point where he could be effective to where it's going to be helpful so it's going to take him awhile to get
to that point. i applaud his desire to be doing exactly what these guys are doing. but he's just not at that level yet. and when he gets there, he'll be confident at it and then he'll be effective. when he's not confident right now, and he's not effective, so, that doesn't help the horse learn. and him, too, because he's going to get hurt and then he's not going to want to do it at all and i don't want him to get hurt. >> bring him back to it. there you go. good. the guys are showing that they're adaptable, that they're teachable. so, if they can follow instruction, that makes them employable, doesn't it? that makes them willing to step up and do something that they've never done before, but there might be a benefit for them. so, hopefully that's starting to sink in. >> now, keep her straight, okay? all right. >> it takes a few attempts to coax lanina into the trailer. >> okay, one more time. this time she's going to get all four in.
she needs to step in. she's going to come all in. just bring her all in. now pet her. love her, pet on her. awesome job, dude. that's fantastic. you just taught that horse how to load in the trailer. that horse responded really well to torres loading in the trailer. and i was watching that horse's body language. i think carey could do this. >> because lanina seems adaptable, misner risks taking her out of the trailer and gives carey his shot. >> i think carey put his heart into that horse and i want to give him every opportunity to have the chance to do what the other guys are doing, too. i need his confidence to get stronger and, so, that's why i had him step up and do it. okay, now, draw her up into you, all in. there you go. way to go, man. you did it. >> i'm happy. i'm really happy. i was really hoping i would be the one to put her on the trailer the first time.
hector got to do it, but still got to do it myself and put her on there. it's good, a bitter-sweet moment. like a proud parent kind of thing. >> little bit at a time. that's right, little bit at a time. you're the man. you are the man. >> i'm not going to tear him down. i'm going to keep building on them just like we build on these horses. you see how we get that horse confidence, we give it reassurance. we give it leadership to follow. we're okay, you're going to be all right. very good, you guys have done an amazing job here. and if i could do that to the guys, too, they'll be able to assimilate that when they get on the outside. that's the whole point of the program.
/s >> deputies respond to a possible gang beating inside a cell, but outside the view of surveillance cameras. >> it appears there's a physical ar ter indication transpiring at this time. you can see the bodies jerking back and forth. >> the inmates say it was nothing. >> i was just rough housing, that's all. >> that's for children. you're in an adult facility. >> one sergeant isn't so sure. >> question know that these individuals are gang memb