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nornlt. so that's certainly the view from moscow. >> all right. bill, thanks for that. that will do it for this hour. our coverage is going to continue. you won't want to miss this. next, john mccain will sit do you believe lye with chuck todd. i think you know what the subject is. "mtp daily" starts right now. if it's thursday weergs playing who's the boss at the white house? in a divided west wing and a divided washington, who holds the power? first, bannon demoted. now a trump ally steps down. >> chairman nunes wants to make sure this is not a distraction. >> plus, striking syria. the pentagon is preparing military options for the presen >> assad's rolen th future is certn. we are considering an appropriate response for that chemical weapons attack. >> and nuclear fallout. >> this result was pre ordained.
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>> we simply do not trust each other anymore. >> what happens when bipartisanship back's dirty word and compromise gets punished. this is "mtp daily" and it starts right now. good evening. i am chuck todd here in washington. a very busy day, for sure. there's infighting, power struggles, and after just 77 days, there is a major shake-up in the president's orbit. both in the west wing. it could have pro found implications. aboard air force one, the president was asked about the state of his white house. and he told reporters he had already shaken things up adding, i think we've had one the of most successful 13 weeks in the history of the presidency. we should note he has been president for 11 weeks. the aapparent turmoil
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contradicts that. a bit of a civil war. bannon reportedly threatened to quit over the demotion, a charge he is denying. some in the president's otter are blaming bannon for the chaotic state of the white house. one person described it as a war between globalists. by the way, the travel ban and its problems internally is all being placed, that blame is being placed at bannon's feet. then there's capitol hill. den nunes stepped aside from the probe. he is now under investigation by the house ethics committee for leaking classified info. complaints have been made with watch dogs. he said he didn't want to be a distraction to his committee's work and republicans echoed that today. >> it is clear this process would be a distraction to the
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investigation into russian interference in our election so chai nunes has offed to step aside as the lead republican in the probe and i fully support his decision. >> he wanted to make sure there was no distraction in the russia portion of the probe. so devin decided to move forward with that. >> and here's the white house's full statement. this is an internal matter. >> are it is an important tipping point go moment. in mid-march, there were reports, a week later, that same white house intelligence operative reportedly helped give that information to den nunes that helped defend president. was that else the tipping point? considering everything we've seen, there is evidence of a dramatic realignment. we don't know the whole story but we know their oeshlt seals
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to be weakening and jared kushner's role seems to be rising. his wife has a west wing it's office. kushner has become the mr. fix-it. bannon was devoted. and nunes has stepped aside from the russia probe. all of that has happened in the last 12 days. i'm joined by andy card. first of all, welcome to the team and welcome aboard. >> thank you. i'm thrilled to be part of the team and i enjoy being with you on the air. thank you for having me. >> i remember when you came in in 2001 and there was the, i think it was called an iron triangle. there was you, karen hughes and karl rove. we've talked about this befor but it seemed everybody made sure there were clear lines of authority. and then he besides stwopg the president, the buck stopped with you. it seemed fast that wasn't taking place the first two and a
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half months of this administration. perhaps are we seeing it now? >> i do think the chief of staff should be empowered by the president to have the responsibility for managing time and process at the white house. and i don't think that reince preebs has been given as much authority as the chief of staff should have. so that's an invitation to play there an inappropriate way in the system. and i think you're seeing the fallout from that. i think it is always reality that the team has come together but they didn't have the been if it of spring training. they went right to the major leagues without understanding if they could even get along. so it's not unusual to see changes taking place. even in the first 100 days with the people working in the white house. maybe not as dramatic as what we saw in the last 12 hours. but changes normally take place as people understand personalities aren't work have the way you expected.
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the expectations that others had of their job, can't be lived up to because it is not the job at the white house. so i think these changes demonstrate the white house is finding its sea legs, how to work. that means that they are making changes is that some are painful changes. some are awkward changes. but i think this is a normal process and it has happened with hee president who comes in for the first time and trits to understand, how do you get people the get sxlang work together haven't worked together before. >> the speed of the changes, we the went back, the first major changes. they changed it in november of last year. you changed treasury secretaries in december of 2002. bill clinton changed chiefs of staff in june of 1994. so this is a little faster than normal. but let me ask but the elephant in the room. >> but look at the other levels. change is happening all the
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time. and some people don't like the job and want to leave. >> let me ask about the advice you might give the president at this the point. you have your son-in-law there. that seems to be somebody you hired, that you really can't fire. he's not the chief of staff but he seemed to be the power center. smat point, look. there's a lot of potential conflicts in there. let's set that aside and say, if you're the president, is it better at this point, because staff is not sure who is really in charge. the chief of staff or jared kushner. do you just make jared kushner the chief of staff? that would be a solution. maybe not the best solution. the president should tell jared, respect the chief of staff. he is responsible for the time i have to give to issues. make sure that you keep him well informed so you don't intrude on
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the domain of the president's time and space in the president's head. jared, he can't be fired. i agree. he can't be fired. but he could be put in a position where he should respect the process that the chief of staff is responsible to maintain in the white house. and that process requires discipline around time and discipline around what's going to in the president's head at what time so he can make decisions that have to be made at the time they have to be made rather than preoccupied with extraneous things that he shouldn't be worried about right now. it is up to the president to do it. go? chief of staff can't do. the president has to empower the chief of staff. if jared should be the chief of staff, do it. i would say that jared has to be careful that he doe't try to implement the president's policies. he helps communicate the policy fwus departments and agencies are the ones to implement
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policies. i would caution anyone who works at the white house not to fall into the trap to think they can implement a policy. they really just guide others and motivate others to live up to the president's expectations. >> i'll leave it there. former chief of staff to george w. bush. former cabinet secretary as well. thank you for giving us your time. >> thank you. >> all right. let me bring in my panel. the white house reporter, a republican strategist, ely, i start with you. this is your beat. look. george w. bush was a man of precision. right? he liked order. so it is not surprising to hear andy card essentially reemphasize the need for order. which you kind of need in the white house. is there a expense president trump understands this? >> i think he is beginning to
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understand it. he understands this has not gone well so far. he won't admit it publicly but he is been making a lot of calls to people outside saying, what do you think of this team? what are we doing wrong? what do we need on fix? you can make jared kushner the chief of staff if you want to. but he is already effectively running the show in the white house. think back to the campaign. everybody's title didot necessarily say what they did. the one people don't even want to say the name out loud. it is that game of thrones inside the west wing. so that's problematic. yes, it is clear he and bannon were close but not as close anymore. >> you have a bunch clients on capitol hill. tell me who i'm supposed to go to to talk about tax reform?
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health care? >> mike pence is a pretty comforting presence. their comfort with him. they think he has the president's ear. i think he is the default. >> they don't want to get involved. to his credit, the vice president has been very hands on. you see him coming to the capitol at night. it is happening more as time goes by. that hands-on feel has been an important part of bridge. it is just the start. the american people are not in a hurry for this to get right. they'll hold people account fastball they don't get it right. i think they knew they were sending a president who is very different. change is sometimes not always smooth. >> to me, it was inhe have tabl that he was going to voubsurrou himself with his family. that who he trusts. just say it. just give him the job. >> i think what is hard, and
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i've been in the clinton white house at different times. >> competing? when there were competing power centers? >> competing power centers for a little bit. dick morris had an operating shadow chief of staff for a while. >> did it didn't last very long but it is very destabilizing when it does. it is emasculating to reince priebus and the staff doesn't know where to go. the problem with the son-in-law, they were smart political people who i would sometimes talk on during campaign. i can't imagine walking into a staff meeting every day. >> i have to highlight something here. you can't, the staff can't be real in front family. you just can't do it. >> you feel uncomfortable doing it. >> imagine this scenario.
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president clinton sent to iraq. ending the open yoid crisis to his portfolio. meantime, the long timer comfort dante has been removed from his brief stint as member of the security council. winter on and on. >> that's a parallel universe. what would republicans be saying? >> well, what are republicans saying now? what are you talking about? it is definitely a different administration. i think the american people and congress will give them some room. >> you are right about. that it i think it shows the white house is operating badly and that's a problem. it also shows they're giving into conventional wisdom. it used to be trump wouldn't care about any of the critism. he would be happy to let the dysfunction happen will. >> the decision maker, great executives, i don't know how many i talked to say i feel
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confident because i watched him make those decisions in the tv board room. right now it is completely mismanaged. you have everybody scurrying around to photo oms. that's a problem. proximity to the president is the only power. >> i had somebody in the white house note, all of us are afraid of not being on air force one. that's not a good place to be. >> when presidential campaigns were using stage coaches, it was still that way. that's not that unusual. when you see a little more structured stability emerge over time. >> that's like, it is devofing. his strength has been he doesn't care what the press says. he doesn't care what political time? ers say. and now they're reacting. they're getting rid of bannon. nunes has been side lined.
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they're trying observe some rules. >> if you look at i, results may matter. he doesn't have health care. he puts on it reince. the travel ban hasn't pen implemented. >> that doesn't mean it will solve his actual problem. >> that's a fair point. i will pause here. coming up, the zero sum governing game that led to an historic moment. democratic senator michael bennett and john mccain join me later. and then adam schiff will join rachel maddow will talk about the shake-up on the house side. with e*trade's powerful trading tools, right at your fingertips, you have access to in-depth analysis, lel 2 data, and a team of experienced traders ready to help you if you need it. ♪ ♪ it's like having the power of a trading floor, wherever you are. it's your trade.
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president trump is now veering away from candidate trump's foreign policy stances. we'll go dig deep entire the president's first foreign policy tests. up ahead with senator mccain msnbc. right now in mar-a-lago, both
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today likely signalled the end of the senate as we know it. the filibuster for supreme court nominees crumbled. majority leader mitch mcconnell and republicans invoked the nuclear option, changing the threshold for supreme court nominees from 60 votes down to 51 to advance president trump's nominee, neil gorsuch. these of course uncharted waters. it could have far-reaching implications for the senate and the court. for such a monumental moment in our history, it all happened without americans up in arrests. that's because the senate may be catching up. the senate is an institution that was supposed to guard against this tendency. the cooling saucer.
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the growing instinct of both parties is to retreat to the respective bases. and we're in a zero sum game. guess what? politically, it is hard to find a reward for any politician these days for crossing the aisle anymore. so the result in some cases was inevitable. >> this result was pre ordained. >> i'm sorry. i love the senate. >> today's vote was a cautionary tale about how unbridled are partisan can overwhelm our basic inclination to work together. >> we can argue together about where this slippery slope started but tomorrow, neil gouch wille reconfirmed as the ninth member bust the senate has been changed forever and perhaps how judges are put on
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the bench. joining me now, michael bennett, one of only four democrats how opposed the filibuster of neil gorsuch. welcome. >> thanks for having me. good to be with you. >> you are in fact the only senate on essentially split your vote. you voted for bringing neil gorsuch's nomination to the floor. but you said, when the nomination comes up, he will vote against him. explain your decision for voting, for not filibustering him. is it only because he's from colorado or is there more to it? >> no. there's more to it i'm proud that he is from colorado. as he very conservative judge. the reason i voted that way is because it is not the right fight. we knew we would end up one way or another, we would end up with neil gorsuch on the supreme court. through normal process or the use of the nuclear option. and if he got on with the nuclear option, it will mean
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donald trump will likely have one or two more at least supreme court nominees that he is now going to be able to put on with not a single democrat able to object. and with the need of only 51 republicans. and i think that will drag the court in extremely conservative direction. and i don't think it was necessary. interesting to me to listen to the comments from the floor of people working in a human institution, decrying the partisanship and then unable to come together to solve the problem. there isn't anyone else in america to do it. i know you're having john mccain on later. i'm sure if you ask hill, he'll tell that you he was one of the people who wanted to see if we could fix it. >> isn't the problem that the political bases of both, that the voters in the middle don't rewart you for being bipartisan anymore because the voters, i guess, are no longer courted, and that the political bases are
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who you respond to. >> i think that's true. i think that the parties have a difficult time saying no to their base. even when there are institutional equities at stake, at ithe long run will be to the benefit of their party. and stims it is very hard for people to break through that. certainly, my office has gotten calls all week. peep very dispoint about the position i've taken but i'm not sure peel understand, when we wake up monday morning, the next appointment could be the judge that redecides roe versus wade and it is on a 51-vote margin. and there's month way to stop it at that point. >> that was interesting. it seems to me what you're saying, one of the reasons you're voting against judge gorsuch. you call him a qualified judge who deserves an up or down vote. you say he is a bit too conservative for you and you seemed to be more concerned about his place on the court if
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more conservatives get added. why should that be a factor? should shouldn't it just be about him? at the end of the day urgs dealing with a republican president. >> in this case, that very conservative justice potential justice, tomorrow he will be, is replacing the seat of a very conservative justice. justice scalia who died. the next one could change, could transform the supreme court and the one after that, if it is a conservative works transform it even further. my concern is this. that this has been a very strategic move by mitch mcconnell, the majority lder he senate. and the result, unhappily, because we weren't able to get a deal of the partisanship that you were talking about. because of that, we may have a very conservative court for two generations of americans' lives and i think that's a terrible
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outcome. >> well, at the end of the day, this is now about senate elections. is it not? isn't every senate election about judges? and obviously, that's more of a motivator on the right than the left. is that really what senate elections should be about? >> it should be about so much else. and the other piece of this that drives me nuts, when you don't need the other party to do something, the pressure on your party to have the most extreme legislation routine. a lot of the citizen sbix judge gorsuch was how he was attempting to obscure his conservative credentials. that's not what you'll see in the future. in the future people will say i'm the most conservative judge in america. put me on the court. or people saying, thats the most conservative judge in america. put me on the court. and i don't think that will be
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good for the court. now we've corroded the senate, the judiciary. and i don't think any of that is good for the country. to your point. a needlesstraction when there are plenty of other issues that we need to focus to move ahead and figure out what our role in the world is supposed to be. >> many in the senate opponent to you as one of the more moderating institutionalist types. do you think you could have double more in hindsight to stop this? should you have gottenore democrats on your side, mccain more on his side, come one a new gang of 10 or 12 that might have prevented this? prevented what happened last year? prevented what happened in 13? do you regret that vote? >> i do. and i've said that on the floor of the senate. that i think vote became an excuse. mitch mcconnell knew what he used that vote, knew what was going to happen. i do regret it.
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and i think we happened oh the last several weeks to try to head this off. we weren't successful. we now need to come together and make sure that we don't lose the legislative filibuster, the next step. and people saying now, that will never happen, mark my words, we heard this. people said nobody wor do that to the supreme court. well, this building may still be standing but the nuclear option has been invoked. on the justices. and the next step could be legislation and that would be horrible for our country. >> how many democrats that were there in 2013 are like you and now regrets going i know what harry reid's decision? >> there are people who do, i think. and i know there are a lot of democrats and republicans who deeply regret what happened today. we need to stop treating that by talking about it in the passive voice as if it is happening to us. this is something that the 100
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members in the senate are responsible for. in fact, or indeed, there is no one else that can take responsibility for it. >> it was surreal. it was like, as if you were looking for roberts, from roberts' rul of order to fix all this for you. >> yeah. anyone would have done. >> we'll lure for those green men later. thanks for coming. >> say hi to my friend john mccain. he is one of the good guys. he really is. >> i think you'll be seeing him in a second. still ahead, as the white house is preparing, we'll talk on senator john mccain. i realize that ah, that $100k is not exactly a fortune.
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i think what assad did is terrible. i think what happened in syria is a truly egregious crime and it shouldn't have happened. and it shouldn't be allowed to happen. >> i think what happened in syria is a disgrace to humanity. and he's there and i guess he's running things. >> just to reiterate, i guess he's there and there's something, something should happen. that was president trump on air force one this afternoon on his way to mar-a-lago. asked about whether assad should go now. those comments come after the president said the kept attack in syria changed him and
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acknowledged that it is his responsibility. and rex tillerson answered questions. he said it is a serious matter that requires a serious response. >> the process by which assad would leave is something requires an international community effort. >> will you and president trump organize the coalition to remove assad? >> those steps are underway. >> there you go. joining me now, senator mccain of arizona. welcome. >> thank you. good to be back with you. >> i want to start with, i know you told some reporters, you spoke with the president last night on this topic. what can you share? >> yesterday morning, after the, all the information came out. he said he was very concerned about it. that he was having meetings with the secretary, with general mcmaster. and they would be providing him with the advice and counsel that
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frankly, i think, is appropriate. he was certainly very concerned. you said you believe assad needs to pay the price. previously you've said potentially one way to do this is ground the air force, take their air force out. they cannot fly again. if they fly, they go down. is that still your recommendation of the initial response? >> that's my initial response. we need establish safe zones, to equip the free syrian army. i would add one point to that. the pilots. you know the nuremberg pilotses after world war ii, carrying out orders was not a sufficient excuse when they tried the nazis. carrying outaries is not a sufficient excuse for dropping nerve gas on innocent civilians. we all saw the pictures and we're appalled and angered and shocked. just incredible. >> is this a reminder that there
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is belf that foreign policy matters at the end of day? that trump said, hey, there are too many quag meyers. we're getting involved in too many foreign affairs. we can't do everything. do you get the feeling president trump now gets the idea that there's no other policeman in the world? >> i think he is realizing our moral responsibility and it was graphically illustrated with the father holding the two dead babies. i think he is getting it. i think he realize that's america must lead. and by the way, america has not led in the last eight years. and whatever happened to the much trumpeted removal of all the stuff, with russia and that bashar al assad that obama and kerry were so proud of? >> i want to talk about that.
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whatter responsibility does vladimir putin have for this attack? nikki haley, at the united nations, said this is on putin's hands too. it was his responsibility. his pledge in this deal. is putin, should he be held responsible for this? >> i think absolutely he should be responsible. by announcing this grand agreement, which would remove any chemical weapons, they didn't keep their end of the bargain. chuck, the russian aircraft used precision guided weapons to hit hospitals in aleppo, killing, in gross violation of every international law under a normal standard. and vladimir putin is responsible for it. i hope goal that. give the ukraines the defensive
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weaponed with which to defend themselves and recognize it. this is an opportunity for this president, who is clearly being tested. okay in clearly being tested, to stand up and frankly, make a name for himself, which i think could be very help have to him and the nation. >> senator rubio believes wasn't a coincidence that one week after secretary of state tillerson changed american policy assad, that thissed happen. do you think it was a coincidence? >> i think it has to do with vladimir putin and assad thinking they could get away with this. t the sfamts were made. i was very pleased to hear a statement today. some of these people, as highly credentialed as they are, they're in a learning
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experience. so i think what we heard from the secretary of state today was very helpful. we need to increase sanctions on iran, on vladimir putin. and understand what kind of a competition we're in. >> two more questions. one, any military strike that the president considers, he doesn't need congressional approval. do you think he should get it? >> i don't think he needs congressional approval. one of the precedents for that was after the bombing of the disco in berlin, ronald reagan struck libya. but the larger picture, we need an authorization for the use of military forceful we've got to update it, make it more realistic and we have to have congress, the representatives of the american people, involved in these decisions. so i'll work tim cain to come up with one. >> let's say this strike is
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successful enough to ground the assad air force and really weaken assad. then what? that has always been the conundrum. right? then what? >> i think then you establish the safe zone. you arm and train and equip the free syrian army. you do not stop your efforts to retake raqqah. you can do two things at once and we have to obviously try to hold people responsible. both bashar al assad and vladimir putin. >> and are we going to be in the ilng effort of syria? >> we have to, chuck. look at what happened in libya after we talked away, after getting rid of gadhafi. >> a tough political sell. a tough domestic sell. >> it was very tough after world war ii, my friend. i believe in goodness and decency of the american people. we have to make it clear to them why it is in our national
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interests. >> i want to ask but the senate. michael bennett was just on. he said to say hi. he said he thought, that you and he had talked about trying to find a way to stop this. were you guys alone? is that the problem? >> no. we had several others with us that were in a room in my office and we discussed this. frankly, opposed to the last couple of times where we were able to avert this, the leadership was not interested. and there was more of a polarization, which is reflective of the attitudes of the country, in my view, which made it different from the last couple times, where we were able to divert it. have no doubt, we're on a slippery slope. >> what does this mean for the courts? more polarized courts? do you think it will mean americans distrust courts if
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everybody is far left and far right? >> i think will harm the fairness of our judicial system. look at the approval rating of congress. >> if wasn't for you, it is just friends and family for both of us the days. >> i'm afraid it is, my friend. we've known each a long time. you've gotten worse over the years. >> i understand that. both of us have. going right downhill. >> you've been hiding your own easter eggs. >> senator mccain, on the day we mourn don rickles, we get a little rickle from you. thank you, sir. there joining a special edition, senator mccain will be on a special edition of "morning joe" tomorrow. you will see more of mccain there. maybe he'll have a few more rickles jokes.
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ykeep you that's why you drink ensure. with 9 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals. for the strength and energy to get back to doing... ...what you love. ensure. always be you. welcome back. time for the lid. panel is back. jan paul mere i, eli. gen, you were in the white house when we were -- looked like we were on the brink of essentially
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nishinsyria for using chemical weapons. present backed down, wanted to go to congress. arguably that was a way to get bipartisan approval to back down and not do this. >> arguably a way to get bipartisan approval. >> which was a way to kill it. >> not anyone in congress -- most in congress -- >> the president chose not to do it himself. why? >> because he did feel that he wanted to have the support of congress. this was crossing a new line and that was, you know, how he had run in both '8 and '12. it was not a territory he was going to take us into without some clear buy-in from the public via the congress as their representatives. and they weren't -- you know, i mean, you remember how that all -- that all played out. there was not a lot of interest in congress in doing this at all. to this date they still haven't acted on the for the authorize use of military force to combat
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isis either. >> there is congress nervousness about getting involved. let me go to the last part about what i asked senator mccain. okay, you do it, then what? and he is willing to make the case, yeah, we have to rebuild the country. this is what we do. it's worth it. this is what we did after world war ii. is there -- the politics of that seem to be very risky. >> well, look, being president is hard. being the leader of the free world is hard. being the beacon of freedom in the world is hard. george bush understood that, barack obama shirked away from it. trump is going to find out, we're going to find out where he is on it. that is the hardest part of assuming that office is you have to make those kind of difficult decisions and lead the country. sometimes you have to take the country to a place where you convince them as you do it. and i think that george bush would be commended. now we see how hard it was. we'll find out now. >> candidate donald trump was -- said to me, look, i think assad is probably a bad guy, but essentially believing the middle east would be more stable today
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with saddam, gaddafi and assad. they kept uncomfortable stability there. that was candidate trump. he seems like he's changed on this specific issue. do you think -- what do you hear, is he ready for the long haul on syria? >> i think he's had his eyes opened a little bit by the images. he does respond to pictures and images. he recognizes how awful this is. sd explicit in the rose garden yesterday, my feelings on this have changed. my position has changed. he bragged about being flexible. remember, this is a guy who criticized obama even though at the time he was urging obama in tweets to not go to syria, also to go to congress. he's basically upset with obama now for following exactly his advice four years ago. i mean, there is a lot of mixed messages you get from donald trump. there is never going to be a trump doctrine as it relates to foreign policy but i think he will defer to the adult to mcmaster, to mattis, the experienced foreign policy hands in trying to craft a response. >> brad, you and i were talking about this earlier. do you get the sense you have
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the republican hawks that don't like putin are finding this as an opportunity to drive a wedge between trump and putin? >> the ones in the administration. >> yes, that's what i mean. you're seeing a concerted effort whether it's cotton, graham, mccain, or mcmaster, mattis, others. >> don't forget tom cotton and mike pompeo went to president obama in 2013 and said whatever -- >> they supported. there wasn't a majority. >> there was support and it came from the republican side, not the democrat side. he didn't have his own secretary of state on his side in 2013. every single day with john kerry was walking back a position every single -- >> john kerry is upset they didn't do anything. that you have. he's the one that fought. he is the one that will end up criticizing in his memorandum wars for walking away on this. am i wrong? on that. >> those two words go together. >> yes, on that i think that's where they had disagreement. >> it is complicated and the question for, you know, going back to last week as you talked
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about in the last segment with senator mccain, the statement tillerson made about assad, what the white house said earlier this week that it's just not realistic to try to push him out right now. things may havchanged that but how do you get there? i mean execute, you know, decide to do missile strikes is one thing. beyond that is where it gets even stickier. >> oh, by the way, the president has to be dealing with north korea right now. and he's got leverage with the chinese and we're out of time. i will leave it there. jan, eli, brian, thank you. after the break a final honor for an american hero. stay tuned.
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well, in case you missed it international hero was laid to rest today in the hal owed ground reserved for our nation's finest, arlington national cemetery. in the driving rain, john glenn turned astronaut turned senator turned astronaut again was buried on what would have been he and his wife's 74th wedding anniversary. they were married on april 6, 1943. quite the tribute to do it today. in the midst of his service, by the way, in world war ii. glenn died in his home state of ohio in december. the marines today, him was played as six paul bearers as the flag covered coffin. his children were in attendance and his wife annie received the folded flag that covered his casket. fitting tribute to a world war ii and korean war veteran, the first person to orbit the earth and the oldest person to fly
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into space. and now folks who live here in d.c. and those who come visit can go and pay tribute to this great american when you visit arlington national cemetery. i hope you'll do it. that's all for tonight. we'll be back with more tomorrow mpt daily. greta, it's all yours. >> chuck, john glenn inspired us all. thank you, check. tonight we're following two breaking news stories. a political bomb shell here in washington and the potential of real bombs half a world away. right now president trump is in mar-a-lago set to get a briefing on possible u.s. military options for syria. that briefing coming from defense secretary james mattis. and nbc news learning those options will run the gamut from taking out syrian aircraft used in the horrific chemical attacks on nnts to larger scale strikes. the president today speaking on air force one. >> what assad did is terrible. i think what happened in syria is one of the truly


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