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day that's not to kill him. auto aglad but i want more payment for these men's behavior. >> thank you both for your expertise. i'm ari melber appreciate you watching. hope to see you this sunday on the special report of the first 100 days of trump even though he says they don't matter. stay tuned. "the 11th hour" with brian williams starts next. tonight, closing in on 100 days. why the president now says the whole idea is ridiculous. and 100 days of resistance. fighting back this the streets, on the hill, and within the president's own support. an also tonight team trump calls new york city soft on crime. watch how it went over in the nypd. "the 11th hour" begins right now. good evening once again from our headquarters here in new york. day 92 of the trump
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administration. and tonight the president and his family are in government housing, choosing to stay home and spend the weekend at the white house, and with eight days until that mythic 100-day mark it could be a wor weekend. in fact the white house talking about three big possibilities for next week when congress returns. health care, tax reform, and avoiding the government shutdown. more on all that later. today reporters asked trump what he could get demonstrate just t -- done in just the coming week. >> hi, sneerve can you speak briefly about the legislative action you are planning for next week. how you are going to accomplish all that? >> it's going to be great. it will happen. >> tax reform and health care -- >> we'll see what happens. no particular rush. we'll see what happens. but health care is coming along well. government is coming along really well. a lot of good things are happening. thank you folks. >> you are going to get a health care bill next week. >> doesn't matter if it's next week.
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next week doesn't matter. >> you heard the man say it. in an interview with the associated press today the president called the 100th dave his term an artificial bury year. he posted on twitter, quote, no matter how much i accomplish during the ridiculous standard of the first 1-days skpirkts has been a lot, including supreme court, media will kill. but as with so many things back on the campaign trail, candidate donald trump was all about those first 100 days. >> just think about what we can accomplish in the first 100 days of a trump administration. be so great. just think about what we can accomplish in the first 100 days of a trump administration. just think about what we can accomplish in the first 100 days of a trump administration. so in concluding, just think about what we can accomplish in the first 100 days of a trump administration. >> so there was that.
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each the president's harshest critics agree the rollout of the man who is now addressed as justice gorsuch was a big achievement. it showed a unified republican party. and gorsuch himself proved to be a call jurist. along with that win there has been also failure, delay, lack of organization and hundreds of vacant jobs unfilled. then there is the resistance thatrdth started up and flooded into the streets during his first full day as president. then it was off to airports, protesting the travel ban both versions of which have been blocked by federal courts. another big defeat. the administration's attempt to refeel and replace obamacare. never made to it a vote on the floor of the house. during this congressional recess many republican members have faced their constituents back home and have gotten an earful on health care, those who dare. let's bring in tonight's panel. beiana golodryga. eli stokels from the "wall
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street journal." and washington, michael crowley. from politico. good evening to you. eli is that sound the sound of goal posts moving? he seemed to have mentioned first hundred days a few times. >> it's good that after 92 days you can rock that -- recognize that sound. he is always moving the goal post. it's interesting. this entire presidency thus far has been a lot of reverse engineering. he will say something and then his staff at the white house will set about trying to make it so. just a couple of weeks ago as it pertains to the 100 day mark it was donald trump who wassage data taillighted about this himself saying we have got to make it so. when i say this is the best 100 days of all time it has to look that way. how are we going to sell this? you have seen a lot of executive orders over the last days a lot of activities, you see this rush on the legislation where they want to do health care and tax reform. put those on dual tracks and at least start on both of those so you see a lot of activity. you know, we could judge his
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first 100 days on a different metric if he hadn't set out and said this is the best of all time. never mind that fdr passed 76 piece of legislation his first 100 days. different time, different kind of congress. donald trump is out there using the were latives, saying this is the best ever. he doesn't have significant legislative achievements. he has a supreme court justice. redrawn red line around chemical weapons. perhaps diplomatic progress around china. a lot of the promises have been filled with executive orders and a lot of those don't have any teeth. >> it was interesting watching him in the brief give and take with the reporters coming back from the treasury department. he wants to make clear that next week is not a big deal. if it happens next week, fine. if not, fine. he wants to not like the standard of measurement, the hundred days. is that a bit like on the eve of the s.a.t.s saying you don't like number 2 pn pencils.
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>>. he has been teasing this thing like nothing else. the hundred days. a few weeks ago he said it's been the most protect productive 13 weeks inned a presidential administration in history. now we have gone through a 24 hour cycle saying we are going to have tack reform, a government health care plan, avoid government shutdown and finality on this while. 12 hours later he says no, no, no, who cares it is an arbitrator date. when people look back and look at what happened with health care and the debacle there the argument is people saying this isn't something he was passionate about. tax reform is what he was passionate about. that's what he wanted to implement first. that doesn't seem to be the case. next wednesday now he says tax reform is going to happen. but others say not until june. >> they are not around a leader but it has sprung up organically. >> it has. you know, there are strong
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ominous winds for republicans blowing out of georgia's sixth congressional district this week and some other places, perhaps montana. it rooems remains to be seen who wins the seat in georgia. after trump's inaugurationway saw the protests, the millions of people in the streets. we have seen it weekend after weekend after week. the energy and the enthusiasm gap that favored republicans after the campaign flipped in a big way to democratic. november 2018 may seem like a long way away but you see the ainge among republican members of congress going home to town halls wondering if we don't get some of these things done what are we going to do. i think that angst brings the health care bill back to the table. a lot of republicans do worry about going home and saying that thing we said we were going to refeel and replace for six, seven years we didn't do it. >> michael i'm looking at your latest piece of work. the headlines is "trump wades
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into french elections". tell the folks what you mean and why it was notable? >> brian, a lot of people in america might not be focused on the fact that there is a potential crisis around the corner in europe. france is having a vote on sunday in their presidential election. there are four candidates who are neck-and-neck. two candidates are going to come out of that vote and they are going to compete in a may 7th presidential election. two people will come out sunday. one of those two is going to be president of france. one of those four is marine le pen the far right populist leader of the national front party she recently visited moscow. talked about france withdrawing from the european union, partially withdrawing from nato. hardliner on immigration. a lot of parallels with donald trump. and there is going to be a minor or major freak out if she is one of the final two candidates,
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particularly if her opponent is one of the people she is perceived as having the potential of defeating easily. it would be a crisis in europe if marine le pen becomes president of france in two or three weeks. donald trump had been staying out of this election. there had been anxiety that he was sympathetic to marine le pen that steve bannon is a supporter of the nationalist movements in europe and that he has been whispering in trump's ear maybe you should help out le pen. trump was staying out of it. this morning he tweeted about the terrorist attack in france last night saying it would have an impact on the election. that was widely interpreted as being kind of a subtle throw of support to le pen because she ab a hardliner on muslim immigration into france. talks a lot about terrorism. but then in an interview with the amount of p. today trump went farther saying le pen was the strongest candidate, would have the strongest policies to
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the threats that france is facing. it is a de facto endorse men of this woman whose candidacy is causing a minor freak out in establishment circles in europe and whose victory as president would be a total crisis. the markets will be rocked. so just -- i would wrap this up by saying that over the past several weeks we've seen donald trump and officials around him reassuring europe saying we like the eu. we like nato. we want a strong europe. today i think he undid weeks of those reassurances by signaling no, again, donald trump is actually sympathetic to the nationalist populist movements that could change the face of europe as we know it and the transatlantic relationship as we know it now. >> starting with brexit, through donald trump, and now france. we have german elections upcoming and so on and so on, you could be convinced that something is happening around the world? >> something is happening around the world. i have to say that donald trump's reaction today and the
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comments he made and tweets he made in favor of le pen suggesting she would be the likely vickor was a knee jerk reaction following president obama throwing his hat in for supporting mack roen, the centralist candidate. you can help but think this is a competition between president obama and president trump over who they support in this race. >> eli, we don't want to get people all riled up. it is late on a friday night. but i want to run comments by the budget director here, former congressman, now budget director mulvaney. we'll listen and look at what he means and explain it on other side. >> the next four days will tell you a lot about the next four years. we have finally boiled this negotiation down to something that we want very badly that the democrats really don't like. and that's the border wall. at the same time there is something they want badly that we don't like very much, the cost sharing rooks the obamacare
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payments. >> border wall, obamacare, what is looming that he would be talking that way. >> he is trying to bring democrats to the negotiating table next week to negotiate some deal to keep the government up and running. when they talked about funding the president wants money for the border wall. democrats tlshs chuck schumer said i thought mexico was paying for the border wall. they are not moving because their politics, because their base will kill them if they go an inch toward working with donald trump on this point. s that border wall. they are not going to come to the table and say give us this crumb as we repeal obamacare and we'll work with you. i think what republicans are realizing is that they may need democratic votes on some of these things specially a deal to keep the government open. they are not going to get it this way. i think they are caucus needs to come together and figure this out. >> it appears to be tone deaf, which is not popular with republicans or democrats with
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health care and subsidies. you see what happens at the town hall meetings. it's not just democrats who are outraged and want to keep their affordable care act, it's republicans as well. i don't think there is leverage in what he is saying, a dollar for a dollar, a wall for subsidies. >> sit true that shutting down the government is the only way to get congress's approval rating below where it is right now. >> congress every now and then decides it is a good idea to do this. i have never seen any benefit coming out of it from congress. i don't know how much lower congress can go at this point. john mccain likes to make the joke it's down to basically friends and relatives. but i think it's a pretty sure bet that congress does not come out looking good if that does happen again. >> we are asking everybody to remain in place. we have got to fit in the our first break. coming up, russia and the trump white house. perhaps you have heard of the topic. who is set to testify under oath? what could it mean for the investigation on the hill.
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i would say to president trump and to attorney general sessions, if you believe this statement is accurate come here to new york city, look our police officers in the eye and tell them that you believe they're soft on crime. >> when i read that statement by
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d.o.j. this afternoon, my blood began to boil. cops are hurt every day. cops are killed in the line of duty. i find this statement to be absolutely outrageous. >> welcome back to "the 11th hour." new york city's mayor and police commissioner there firing back at the president and his attorney general jeff sessions. sessions just yesterday sparked outrage for his islands in the pacific comments that happened to be about the 50th state of hawaii. today turned his sights on so called sanctuary cities, cities who don't detain someone solely because of their immigration status. the d.o.j. again threatened to cut off federal funding to those cities. new york got something extra. in a statement accompanying the letters, the justice department specifically called out what it called new york city's soft on crime stance as causing an increase on murders.
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quick stat check. new york city's crime stats have been trending town and not up. another way of thinking of this story is this. six blocks from here on a foggy and damp evening here in new york the midnight shift is about to begin in trump tower where members of the nypd stand post and maintain 24 hour protection over the president's new york home. many of them in body armor, carrying assault weapons. they might be the most surprised to learn new york city is somehow soft on crime. back to our panel, still with us, eli stokels, beiana goal riga and michael crowley. beiana, jeff sessions, interesting judgment call here. attacking the 50th state as an island in the pacific. and today new york city, home of the president, legendsary home of the president. >> and i couldn't help but think of one of the president's most powerful moments during the campaign, during the debate when he defended new york city on
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9/11 and all the hero who is came down to the towers to help people and save people. that was his moment against ted cruz when ted cruz made a dig at new york. now for this to happen, i can't imagine that the president is happy about jeff sessions saying this about his hometown. >> in the city they lost a new york city fifth. 14 year veteran, father of a young daughter. today police and fire came together for a procession. a funial next week. a sensitive period. we have to reduce this to politics. whatever jeff sessions is up to, he has been among the activist cabinet members for the base. >> he has been. i was thinking of the exact moment between donald trump and ted cruz in the debate. that was a powerful moment for trump. i think the administration could
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point to law enforcement more, criminal undocumented immigrants are being deported at higher rights, these are the things they said they were going to do. and president is not out there talking about it all that much. jeff sessions went to the bor r border, gave a fiery speech, this is the trump era, this is different. and now offending people in the president's hometown. jeff sessions, if he and the president have a conversation about this i'm sure that president trump will say layoff the police officers and the fire -- the first responders in new york city. you know, think about it a little bit. >> it's unnecessary. >> yeah, unnecessary. and politically it's better for them to talk about san francisco and other places than new york city for political reasons. but i think just generally as we talk about the 100 days they could be talking about immigration more. they haven't just yet. and i think it's just -- you know, striking, given the president's rhetoric over the course of the campaign and how
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much that really defined thashs one issue defined his campaign it was a staple of all his speeches, you don't hear much about it at this point even though they have taken pretty decisive action. >> michael as next week begins people are going to be kind of recentered back on the topic and the investigation into russia. can you help to reset us, the status of it? and what are the big ticket bold faced names we are going to hear under oath and testifying? >> right. well, you know, brian, it has faded a little bit from the headlines. there was kind of a turning point with the syria strike a couple weeks ago that sort of reset the table. and then rex tillerson went to moscow and conversation around that was the confrontational relationship that seems to diplomatically at least in this moment seems to be emerging between the trump administration and the kremlin. though trump is saying he would like to see a breakthrough in the relationship with russia. that's an ongoing story. but the investigations proceed.
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they are happening sloel. they are going to take a frustratingly long time for everybody involved. both people who want to see the goods and people who want to see exonerations. but this is -- what we are going to see next week is the house intelligence committee kinds of getting back on track after the -- i guess you would sort of say the keystone cops antics of devin nunes that wound up forcing him to recuse himself from the investigation. we are going to have a really interesting hearing. sally yates will testify, who was the deputy attorney general who was pushed out of the trump administration. she was there, and in fact informed the trump white house that national security adviser michael flynn was subject to blackmail because he had misled other administration officials about his contacts with the russian ambassador. so she was right at the heart of some explosive interactions in this administration. we are also going to hear from john brennan, the cia director. i think you are going to see the
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story reemerge in a big way. and it's going to force -- you know, when these hearings happen, brian, and there are events coming out of capitol hill, they kind of create their own momentum because then sean spicer is forced to respond, trump starts tweeting. so it really triggers this sort of domino effect where i think we are going to be spending a lot of time talking not about only the investigation but trump's reactions to it next week. so it's going to be very interesting. >> eli here's what else is going to happen. people are going to watch the hearings and there is going to be this predictable rounds of questions by party. and it's going to cause a lot of good people in the audience to say why can't this be taken out of their hands? why can't this be an independent investigate? is the answer to that in large part still that it would take six to eight months to stand up such a thing and with our attention span these days interest would fade? >> i don't know that interest would fade. what we've seen with this white
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house and thissed a straying how it has galvanized the country on both sides i don't think it would go away. i think americans want answers on this. they have patience and a lot of them would like to see an independent investigation on this. because our politics are so polarized. everybody sees everything, you know, through, you know, everything is a roar shack test these days. i think that something -- if people would believe in an independent panel investigating it, i think a lot of people would like to see it. >> yet,dy beiana have you been surprised overall that it's kind of a given that russia this their finger on the scales of our election, they were a player in the presidential election and the outrage is only what it is. >> we take paut putin's word for niet i had no impact on the election whatsoever. we know it's happening in other elections around the world. europe, mexico of all places as well. it is an easy and tactical approach by the russians. it's not expensive and it's
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something they have succeeded at. what surprises me more is that this president and those around him in the campaign are under fbi investigation. we are not yet focus on what to do in the next election, 2018, the next presidential election to prevent russia from doing what they are doing now. why aren't we focusing on that. >> just the say it's speculated they are players in the french election, that it is happening on a rolling basis as we speak. >> thank you for cueing that. i mentioned marine le pen was at the kremlin one on one meeting with vladimir putin last month. western first are in broad agreement that the kremlin is meddling in the french election. fake news, propaganda. potential e-mail hacking. they are running the same playbook in france. if they manage to help marine le pen win in france. it is a complete earthquake across europe that will resonate in the u.s. global markets, people should be
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tuned in to this vote on sunday and the final vote on may 7:th. >> thanks to the best on a friday night. beiana, eli and michael. coming up after the next break for us as president trump deals with the threat of north korea i'll speak to the top democrat on house foreign affairs. that's ahead when "the 11th hour" continues. it'sand your doctor at yoto maintain your health.a because in 5 days, 10 hours and 2 minutes you are going to be 67. and on that day you will walk into a room where 15 people will be waiting... 12 behind the sofa, 2 behind the table and 1 and a half behind a curtain. family: surprise! but only one of them will make a life long dream come true. great things are ahead of you when your health is ready for them. at humana, we can help you with a personalized plan for your health for years to come.
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north korea could conduct another nuclear test as it prepares to celebrate its army next week. officials from the u.s., japan, south korea will meet in tokyo next week to talk about how to deal with this standoff. we are joined tonight by new york congressman elliott engle. he is in his 15th term representing his district in the bronx. he is the top democratic on the house foreign affairs committee. i know you had a harrowing evening trying to fly here in the fog. you have made it to your studio in washington. two he is request about the coming days. number one, the carrier battle group disdirection aside are you comfort your government will say and do the right thing should north korea decide on another test this weekend? and have we put too much faith in china's ability here? >> well, i think there has been a lack of consistency, frankly, from the administration. on the one hand, china's probably the only country that can have any influence over
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north korea. the president says if china helps that perhaps he will negotiate a better deal with china for trade. i think that's kinds of insulting. i think the chinese know what to do. we know what we want. saber rattling doesn't do anybody any good. and i think that we've just got to do something. we can't walk away. we can't make bell coast statements. we need china. we need to work with them. because kim jong-un, who knows what's going on in his mind? >> i have to ask you as well about the other front we are going to be watching in foreign affairs this weekend. and this is the french election, probably headed for a runoff. what do you think is happening around the world? do you think we're in the middle of something right this very minute? >> i do. i think there's an unease around the world. i think we've seen it in other
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countries in europe, in spain n greece, other places. we've seen it in the united states n. my opinion, people are dissatisfied with the regular order and they want something different, even if that something different might be much more destructive. people are looking for an alternative. they are unhappy with their lives. they are unhappy with the way things seem to be going. you know, you have ms. le pen in france who has come from a party full of anti-semitism. it's really very disconcerting that people are turning to these fringe candidates and adopting them and mainstreaming them. because you have to have consistency when you are in office. it can't be fly by the southeast your pand pants. one day i'm going to do this. next day i'm going do do that. i'm going to make election promises and then i'm going to contradict them. i think we are in the middle of something. and the world needs to wake up before too much goes by.
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>> in your bailiwick they have one official at the state department confirmed? and that's the secretary of state? >> worse than that, brian, they want to cut the state department by about a third, 33%, 31%, 37%. it is all in the third range. i'm told that morale at the state department has never been lower. people don't think they are looked upon with any kind of importance. we need diplomacy, we need diplomacy to prevent wars. we need programs like u.s. a.i.d. that feed people and do things. it is a boone to the united states because people look at us as people that care about them. each the thought of cutting it by a third, that anyone could be serious about it is very, very disconcerting. i think the president and administration ought to rethink it. i know in congress we are going to fight it on a bipartisan
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basis because we have the power of the purse. the propose can propose anything he wants in a budget but congress has to pass it. and i know there is bipartisan support against such draconian cuts for the state department. >> congressman, thank you, despite your distress in trying to get home to your district tonight. we sure appreciate you taking the effort to be with us on the air on a friday night, congressman. >> my pleasure. >> thank you congressman. elliott engle, democrat, of new york. coming up, chris matthews grading donald trump's effort as president thus far. the host of "hard ball" is our guest when "the 11th hour" continues. e new new york. we are building new airports all across the state. e new new york. new roads and bridges. new mass transit. new business friendly environment. new lower taxes. and new university partnerships to grow the businesses of tomorrow today. learn more at esd.ny.gov
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earlier tonight i sat down with our friend the host of "hard ball" chris matthews and asked him to sum up what he thinks of president trump's presidency so far. >> it was always based on legislation and how well you did in terms of pushing your program through the congress. by that, i don't like doing this especially but it's an f so far. he didn't get health care through. it logged jammed the whole thing because one leads to another. and because he can't get get health care through -- he may next week but i don't think so. he isn't going to be able to do tax reform because ahead of those revenue victories to increase the government's revenue before they going along with the tax reform. i think he is log jammed in terms of getting anything done. so i say f. >> the won one response you always give your guests when talk turns to capitol hill is where are the votes? show me the votes. >> yeah. >> with that in mind, what do you see as what's he going to be able to hang his hat on by the
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ends of 2017? >> it's very hard. you might remember, i certainly do. the democratic party was always a party of coalition. not of united ideology. you always had the segregationists in the south. which was the solid south, necessary in every presidential election, necessary in every congressional vote. that's why the democrats were the majority party. then out the southern segregationists the white people down south who had nothing in common with them except jefferson, the party of jefferson and of course jackson. the republican party is a lot like that. i don't think people like charlie dent from allentown and bethlehem have much in common with the freedom caucus. i think that's showing. they want to preserve the popular elements of obamacare. people with preexisting conditions, being able to keep your kids in their mid 20s on your health care plan. that's not going to be in any kinds of you know cheap, cheap,
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inexpensive, essential benefits republican plan. so replace and repeal are very hard to go together. if you are going to repeal you can't replace with another entitlement program. anyway, my point is i think the ideological differences within that caucus is going the prevent them from getting 218 and passing anything. >> chris, this is the first time we have voted a television star into the presidency. that said, do you think a huge part of his problem is communications? >> yeah, it's also his strength. the reasonest he's president, brian, because i used to advice people running for office, think radio. the reason, it's easier to get on radio especially in a big city. but you can get on radio. the other reason you can get on radio with an actuality or a beep or a statement on tape is because they have to refresh every two hours. that idea, if you listen to top in washington or wor in new york or active news stations, there
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has been a killing, something in brooklyn, that bouncing around ping-pong news thing is how trump thinks. trump is thinking every couple seconds, every new seconds is a new second, forget the last second. today he was saying a ridiculous standard. 1u7b had days, ridiculous standard. all through the campaign he was saying i'm going to do something in 100 days. nobody remembers that. you have to keep showing the tape with him. the strength of that, we have to cover it. every time trump does something, we are covering it. he is president of the united states and it generally is provocative. the danger is he threatens leaders, breaks up treaties, always in the moment and you never know how they are going to act in that moment. if he is pressing and provoking every second, every second is a new opportunity for the other side, the bad guys as we see them doing something bad. the danger of that mentality and that nature is the other side
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gets ginned in the same mentality and they start getting person at the timic. who wands kim jong-un to be person at the timic? nobody. we had no drama obama. purposefully he kept things calm, cool and uneventful. he didn't want upset. he wanted a wonderful family life, wanted to raise the kids well. he didn't want to be jumping around in the middle of the night, tweeting. imagine obama tweeting at 5:30 in the morning. it would sound crazy. trump that's what he does, who he is. >> the polls, 60/40, 40% approval rating thereabouts for the president. that would indicate that 60% of the folks out there are at least receptive to whatever it is the democrats are selling. have you any evidence that they are ready to take 60% consumer interest out for a spin. >> there is no leader in the democratic party. that's why. they don't have to agree on a
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candidate. that's why. they don't have to agree on a personality. first of all i think the 40 is higher in some cases. trump won with 46 w the electoral college. i think the latest polling before he went to voting was in the 30s. we have a lookout now that says basically there is a margin of support for trump that doesn't show up in the polling. that's one reason hillary didn't get it right. i think trump is more popular than people tell pollsters they are. i know that. in a campaign hillary clinton was up by eight in a roll poll where somebody human calls you up and says who are you voting for. she wins by eight. when a machine calls you up he wins by two. the pope is people don't want to say they are for trump and i think they are. in a one on one with a democratic candidate he could still do okay, might win again. but i think the democrats have a leadership problem. with hillary they had one. now they don't have a leader imi'm not sure they agree on much except they don't like
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trump. i think that's the challenge. i know you knew that was the answer to the question when you posed it. >> like any good courtroom lawyer. you were the first to use the word nationalist, nationalism for what you saw emerging as trump's political persona. do you see that waning or still on the rise? and the french elections in mind, what worries you as you look around the world? >> well, you and i were very heartened by the fact that europe was going to unite. and we were heartened by the fact at the end of the cold war countries like hungary and baltic states joined. we are thrilled that europe was getting together bike the united states with a common currency. measurements, open borders, free movement of labor. all the good stuff. that's coming apart. because of immigration, and because of reemerging anger, and nationalism over immigration, too much too pass often is the
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case. too much coming in. too much cultural threat. it's normal. we don't like it because we are americans. we are saying that's a value -- i'm not sure many in the world agree with that. but we adhere to it as much as we can because we are the nation of immigrants. i think le pen could win. i don't know whether there is going to be a pull back. we had a guest on hard ball who says she will win the final vote. a french reporter for a tv and radio station over there. i think it's moving toward her. look at the. mo. her father was getting in the low teens at best. it is a movement. i think we are in a nationalistic feeling right now. pat buchanan was considered an outsider, almost a person that shun be heard from at some point. and his nationalism is right up there now from trump. right there. it's about immigration. it's about looking out for ourselves. it's unfortunately, rhett lent
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of america first right before world war ii. it sounds -- it has a bad smell to it sometimes. let's not kid ourselves. it has a racial smell and an ethnic smechlt it's not just about looking out for the economic interests of the people who live here. >> chris matthews host of hard ball, thank you, as always good the talk to you. coming up here tonight with the trump administration pledging more action on immigration, including for i.c.e. agents in the field an exclusive look at some of those agents on the job today. that's when "the 11th hour" continues. if you've tried every pill on the shelf
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welcome back to the "11th hour." can you believe this is going to be the next thing? but with a government shutdown looming now, the white house is pushing to get several priorities paid for in the bill congress has got to pass to keep the government up and running. one of those priorities, sean spicer told reporters today, quote, we want hiring of immigration agents. well, in an nbc news exclusive
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correspondent gadi schwartz road along with those officers on the job. >> reporter: the first immigration arrests happened before the sun comes up. nine teams like this one spanning southern california with lists of immigrants with criminal histories targeted for deportation. >> we don't do raids or sweeps. what we're doing again and what you've seen that's happening all this morning is targeted enforcement operations. >> reporter: i.c.e. agents waiting for this man to walk out the door before moving in. >> just relax. >> i go to work. right now -- >> reporter: david marin is a field office director for i.c.e. >> if you're here in this country illegally, you should be deported. >> reporter: i.c.e. agents try knocking on the window, but a woman flashes this card saying they will not cooperate without
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a warrant and the agents stand down. >> she showed you a card from an attorney that says don't talk to i.c.e., i'm not going to let you no. of course, we're going to abide by that. >> reporter: back at the processing center, the men rounded up are waiting to call their families. he is a felon with a history of burglaries and drugs. no one is perfect. everybody's made mistakes. he says he doesn't know what's going to happen with his wife. she has cancer. he says he is the one who takes care of his wife. he doesn't know what's going to happen with his daughters. he has been convicted of selling drugs and he's been deported four times. he says the reason why he keeps coming back is because of his daughters. wh are ty going to do? many law enforcement agencies won't honor immigraon holds after judges have ruled in several cases their use was
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unconstitutional. >> our preference would be to take these individuals in custody in a secure environment at a jail or some other law enforcement facility. >> reporter: instead their arrests happen at homes or at work. high profile removals like this woman, who was deported in front of her kids, or this week news of a daca recipient being sent back to mexico. families terrified those with no criminal record could be deported. what about people with families here? >> that's an unfortunate consequence of our immigration laws, right? but we don't make immigration laws. our job is to enforce them. >> reporter: he says the laws are the same, but this administration is bringing change, including more resources and more leeway to agents on who should be targeted. >> now with this current administration we have short of shifted in that spectrum of criminality. that now includes everyone that
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has not been convicted of a crime, but who have entered here illegally. >> does that mean i.c.e. is prepared to go after everybody? >> that's nice necessarily what we're doing. if we get that order, we're going to do it. >> reporter: millions of undocumented families living under contradiction. we are a nation of laws and we are a nation of immigrants. >> that's what the front line looks like. coming up, the event today that went into the win category for the new administration. ♪
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last thing before we go here tonight, our attempt to keep pace with the blistering pace of news. let's remember it was only monday when these pictures came out of vice president mike pence's trip. leather jacketed and intense, staring across the way to north korea where the soldiers took time out from looking menacing to take some keepsake photos of the visiting american. pence later said in a speech, quote, the era of strategic patience is over. on tuesday, we learned what president trump called an armada was actually not on its way to the sea of japan, but in fact the strike group sailing alongside the carrier of the carl vincent was steaming in the other direction. it is now aimed right at the korean peninsula. a special election in georgia's
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district became national news. in a very red district it was still a surprising result. being announcement from fox news came on wednesday. bill o'reilly was out of after 20 years on the air. he left the highest rated cable news show after 50-plus sponsors left the show themselves. o'reilly still denying the allegations and likely to get a huge payout on the way out. the italian prime minister visited the white house on thursday in a joint conference with president trump. the president accused iran of violating the spirit of the iran nuke deal. he also seemed confident the situation in north korea will be taken care of. also today a development that goes in the win column for the 45th president. a negotiated release for an egyptian american being held for three years in an egyptian jail. today she visited him in the oval office. that's going to do it for our
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broadcast for tonight and for this week. thank you so much for being here with us. have a good weekend and good night for all of us from new york. so this was supposed to be the week when arkansas held two back-to-back doubleheader executions. arkansas has not killed any of its prisoners in more than 12 years, but they decided they would try to kill 8 of them all in a row all in a rush. eight men, eight prisoners, two per night in four different double header executions spread across a week and a half. and the urgency for that was because one of the drugs they wanted to use for these executions is getting close to its sell by date. it will not be legal to use that drug to kill people after the drug expires at the end ofhi