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many of them are ill-educated and have tattoos on their foreheads and i hate to be genl rised about it, but it's true. i didn't hear anything she did. i was looking at the james brown white. they want a pronound change in the way america is run. slaves that worked there were well fed and had decent lodgings provided by the government. >> and that is just a small sampling of the best of the worst from bill o'reilly, now consigned to the annals of tv
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history. after at least 50 big-name brands withdrew their advertising from their show has been held as a vic tore against his victims. it has been a costly lesson for fox news because bill o'reilly is walking away with a cool $25 million for his contract. his golden parachute is just a fraction of $85 million in payouts related to sexual harassment allegations. 40 million dlf of which went to roger ails who was ousted last year in a sexual harassment scandal of his own. the times reports that since ails's departure, the network has tried to clean up its act and some of fox news's current hosts might want to be the first to sign up because this week on cnn after sarah palin avoided a question if she experienced sexual harassment, they went and
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got their seats. here's chris wallace yucking it up with don imis in 2010. >> i'm excited to finally meet sara pay len. we've been chasing her for the last year and a half. >> when you interview her, will she be sitting on your lap? >> jesus. >> one can only hope. >> wallace later apologized for his remarks. then in 2011, tucker carlson, the inheriter, fox's bill o'reilly time slot also had to apologize after tweeting with sara palin. and in a prime example of the kind of comment that allegedly made roger ails, the former fox news chairman, there is this 2011 quote. i hired sarah palin because she
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was hot and got ratings. all of which kind of makes you wonder whether the time for news goes beyond what's on at 8:00 p.m. ly i'm going to come to you first because it isn't over. we've got a culture at fox news that clearly goes beyond bill o'reilly, no? >> yes. and as you pointed out, joy, this is a systemic problem at fox news that was created by roger ails over more than two decades and overnight i reported on pending litigation that's going to be filed next week by seven more african-american employees at fox news who are claiming racial discrimination. they describe horrific acts of racial discrimination in which
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black employees were forced to arm wrestle for the entertainment of white employees in the accounting department. this is evident of a full chur that is even trenched and that has not changed in the wake of bill o'reilly's departure. >> when we came in this morning, we were both perusing the arm kresing story. the idea that the head of the human resources department were making her black female employees arm wrestle for the entertainment of white staff, i can't fathom that happens in america in the white world. >> the racial connotations can't be mixed here. it clearly invoked being forced to compete or wrestle for the entertainment of slave holders and their guests. grant it, maybe this isn't slavery, but it's certainly unacceptable in any workplace for anybody to be forced to do something for the entertainment of superior. >> according to bill o'reilly,
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slaves were quite well fed. let's play more bill o'reilly because i want to talk about the broader issue. you have written about the racial dynamics as well as your work on issues on sexism and gender. this is bill o'reilly putting them all in one siend biound bi >> when is the last time you saw a public service ad telling young black girls to avoid becoming pregnant? has president obama done such an ad? how about jackson or sharpton? has the black caucus demanded an ad like that? how about the pc pundits in the nbc news? white people don't force black people to have babies out of wedlock. >> and he never got in trouble for that, lisa. what kind of culture is being created if that's a top rated show? >> that's particularly rich in light of my client, who is an
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african-american woman who claims that he sexually harassed her constantly over a period of many months, called her hot chocolate, et cetera and stressed her out where she would come home every day withdrawn. she was the catalyst that brought him down and a certain satisfaction that we all take in that, given his long history of overtly racist comments like that. i remember he said he couldn't believe that black people would sit around in a restaurant like normal people and eat food and not thrown things at each other. >> pretty amazing. michael, i'm glad you were able to come today because i think a lot of people on the left who don't consume fox news and the culture around it can't understand why this is acceptable to the conservative movement, which is who they are advertising and broadcasting to. what is going on? >> well, first of all, i think what's going on has been piling on, which is way, way beyond what's appropriate.
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the one thing i want to say about bill o'reilly, i don't know him that well. i know nothing about his behavior backstage, really. i haven't really witnessed it. i've never worked on fox news. the point about this is that bill o'reilly is one of the very few voices on the right who has been at least somewhat unpredictable who could ask tough questions of donald trump and of course he said outrageous things. i called him out on the air when he made that comment about max seen waters recently and about her, quote, james brown wig. that was totally out of line. but it seems to me if we are now going to replay stuff going back, five, six, seven years, the point of bill o'reilly is none of this is going to dent his popularity with the three to four million people who listen without fail, watch his show. and i would imagine that he is going to continue being an important voice in the united states after his noncompete is
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over for six months. who knows who he's going to end up. >> he is going to end up on a podcast on monday. but i think the question and i'll throw it out to the panel is it is not just bill o'reilly. there is a large audience that wants to consume very racially provocative, sexually provocative content that is marginalizing to women. the women on fox news all look a certain way and have to and are treated a certain way, even the conservative women who are treated a certain way. i'll throw it to the panel. it isn't just about bill o'reilly. it is about the people consuming this. >> look at what president trump said, i don't think what he did was wrong. not he didn't do it. there is a large portion of the public who doesn't think that racially bias is wrong. they don't think that sexual harassment is wrong. i've had other sexual harassment cases against fox news. i have had three women with sexual harassment claims against bill o'reilly.
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that's what we're up against. however, the good news is the majority of the american public does think it's wrong and in fact the law prohibits it and that's what behave on our side. >> and you have a situation where fox news is highly influential in the white house. there was a new york times piece that came out that talked about the fact that among donald trump's frequent conversations and advisors are rupert murdoch and shawn hannidy. >> when i was reporting on roger ails, i would talk to prominent republicans who would complain about the circus that he created at fox news. yet, these same politicians would go on the network to reach and connect with the republican base. i think fundamentally where this would change is if the republican party, and we know this isn't going to happen, but if the republican party and politicians said we aren't going to put yourselves in a position
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of supporting something that margizes and denigrates groups of people. >> and, michael, because you're -- i would love to hear from you on this. >> if i could just jump in here. everybody on this panel is a big defender of the first amendment. i know that. and the idea is i really think what you are beginning to communicate and i would warn you against it, please, is a desire to just cutoff fox news to eliminate that voice. there is lots of stuff on that network that is outrageous. there is some stuff on every network that is outrageous. no one is claiming that fox is fair and balanced. but the point is what is it that you want exactly? i mean -- >> let me ask you a question, michael, just to have a little dialogue with you on that. there has been a concerted message come from the right for a long time all the way back to the clinton era that constantly critiques the culture of the left, that the left is corroding
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the overall culture. but i wonder if there is a self-kre teak here on the right that racism and sexism has been created over decades and fox news is just part of it. is there any self-critique that this culture is denigrating the country? >> sure there is and you saw that with a substantial number of conservatives critical of president trump. there were 25 members of congress when the access hollywood tape came out -- >> they all turned around and have voted for him. >> it's not true. >> and have marched behind him like penguins. who has broken from him? >> people like senator ben sass who is a friend. >> the ones who criticized him like marco rubio said they would be honored to help elect him. he's been devoted to donald trump in every day. people like paul ryan,
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completely devoted to donald trump. and they pretended the access hollywood thing never happen. >> where are their voices against sexual harassment to say our daughters in the workplace have a right to go to work without being hit on by the big boss, have a right to complain about it and being driven out of their industry, which is what happened to all of the fox news accusers. >> again, i think you have to make some kind of distinction here regarding particularly charges that aren't verified yet and that are being contested. i know as an advocate, lisa, you understand that. look, i am one conservative voice. sexual harassment is not okay. insulting people is not okay. racism is never okay. but -- and, again, there were tons of voices on the right that called out president trump on these issues when he was a candidate. he's now president of the united states. and there is a sense on the right as i think there is
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throughout the country among the balance of people is he's president. there's some things he's done have been wonderful in my opinion like appointing justice gorsuch to the supreme court and other things he's done have been appalling and continue to be and it seems to me that for people to say that trump can do no right is just as bad and just as destructive and those that say on the right he can do no wrong. >> if i can interrupt the self-congratulation here for conservatives here, let me talk to michael man to man here. >> sure. >> you have several women who have accused bill o'reilly of sexual harassment. >> it's eight now. >> let me finish. eight women who have accused him of sexual harassment. at what point are you going to believe them? that's the question. >> look, i believe -- again, that's not for me to decide. he's paid out settlement to $13 million. >> michael, i'm asking you.
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>> i wish we had more time. >> okay. wait. i am not saying -- hold on. let me be very clear. i'm not saying that bill o'reilly shouldn't have been fired. i just don't know. what seems to me to be lamentable is the idea that we're attacking the entire culture of another network. we're saying that that other network is imvalid. >> i'm going to stop this right here and we're out of time. i think the right has made its business attacking the culture of the left of liberals of hollywood and this has been a stock and trade of the right for a long time. i think what we're asking here is a little self-reflection because to your point michael, donald trump is president of the united states, despite ongoing open, proud vulgarity. so i think the right might just want to reflect on the fact that they're okay with that. we'll have this conversation at another time. i'm glad you were here. we love to have you on the show. we will have to do this again. up next the federal prosecutors
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>> with the tough on crime posture he's tried to take, attorney general sessions suicide he wants to aggressively clamp down on immigration and drug trafficking. during a meeting on tuesday sessions said he's prepared to use every tool to target people who enter the country without papers. but you said 46 federal prosecutors. their seats and 47 others remain open. >> how soon do you expect to be getting u.s. attorneys out into the field, nominated and in their place? >> we really need to work hard at that and we'll ask congress to help with that. >> former white house counsel to president johnson. >> thank you. >> john, how do you conduct a crack down on immigration and all the other things jeff sessions wants to do without u.s. attorneys?
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>> with great difficulty. but the career people in those various offices, someone has stepped forward, been designated to step forward and run the office. but what they're not getting is any policy from washington. so every time something that is controversial happens in that office, or troublesome at all, they have to turn to washington. while they always have regular connections with washington, the offices don't run well until they get the head of the office. >> and what is the hold up? i mean, are they -- >> the way the process typically works is members of the senate recommend to the department of justice. no one knows this better than sessions. he's been there no telling how many usas he's recommended over his tenure. there's probably a bottleneck right now. these people all have suggestions and why they're not acting on it, i don't know. >> there was a question and debate internally about a lot of long-time republican operatives in washington whether or not to add their reputations to this or
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add this administration to their resume and reputation. do you think there is some reluctan reluctance? >> that could well be the problem. it would be an interesting polling to quietly do on the hill to see how they feel about the quality of the candidates that are coming forward because a lot of these people have strong feelings. they want a good candidate. >> if you find up with poor quality as u.s. attorneys, then what? >> well, you get poor quality work out of poor quality u.s. attorneys. >> so you have now attorney general sessions saying they are going to work to ramp up the hiring of more imdwraegs judges. so they want to have more immigration judges, beef up ice, get a wall. so they seem to be focussing much of the department how on immigration and they have reupped the contracts with private prisons. this is a situation a lot of people feel is unsustainable and frightening. this is what they want, right? >> it sounds like what they want. i know how it's striking fear in a community that doesn't need
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this kind of grief. and it's unfair. you know, what he thinks ultimately is going to happen, he's not going to remove 11 million illegals. he's just -- he's just really striking terror in them. and for what goal? what does it do? it's hurting businesses. it's hurting families. it has no overall accomplishment. is it honoring a campaign pledge? apparently they think it is. is it a pledge that's going to help the country in any way, not that i see? in fact, i think a lot of businessmen are trying to get to them and saying, listen, we need these workers and all this business at how they're going to cut down on sanction ware cities. >> is it legal to deprive cities who are sending tax money to the federal government of the money? >> that's going to be litigated and you can't put a gun to their
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head and say you have to do the federal government's work. >> so do you think california would sue? >> for sure. california is going to fight this. you know, as when jerry brown said when they talked about eliminating the climate satellite he said we'll put our own satellite up and then california could do that. someone suggests maybe we should build the wall along california. >> only if you put me on this side of it. i don't want to be on the other side of this. where do you think this goes, this add minnesota strags? it feels like it is in some ways out of control, but there doesn't seem to be any momentum on congress to do anything about it. where does this end up? >> what i don't understand is why they can't get people in jobs. it is just not the department of justice. it is across the board. there are empty offices in the west wing. i finally have a contract there who tells me, you know, you walk-through there, you're going to be surprised. there are throughout the
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departments an agencies the department of state is hurting. all of the departments, they're just not filling the job. i don't get the game plan. they don't know how that's handicapping them and developing any kind of momentum for their administration so they're way behind -- >> do you have a sense they're policies about shrinking the federal government? >> i get the feeling it is incompetence. >> john, always a pleasure to talk to you. >> the hollywood drama that could affect your tv shows. . [ dog whimpers ]
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very big pie. that's all. >> ten years ago the writer's guild of america went on strike after contract talks failed. the strike lasted 100 days and cost the los angeles economy roughly $2.1 billion as production halted. well, we may soon be having deja vu because it could happen again. the guild will finalize a vote to begin picketing if there is no agreement on the health care plan. the strike would begin may 2nd and could effect some of your favorite tv shows. and thank you very much for being here. i'm terrified because i cannot give up the walking dead. you and i both share that. and obviously "saturday night live" has been giving people so much life. what is going on? why this potential strike? >> first of all i understand why
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they would want to strike. i understand why any union would want to strike. there are health care issues, residual issues. there is a thing happening right now if you do an eight-episode series you might be held for a full year before you could go back. so there are people expected to make their living off of eight episodes. it's really hard. so i understand that. but as a person, i'm not even here as an actress. i'm here as a fan of television, i'm hoping cooler heads prevail and they will stay at the negotiating table because when a strike hits l.a. it affects the entire city. everything shuts down. >> it feels like, you know, i think for people who are -- as a tv fan, as viewers, we take for granted that product we're seeing there are lots of lots of people standing on that side of the camera. >> there's about 200 to 300 people on any show you work on. there is going to be that many people below the line doing all the difficult work, taping down cables, bringing you their food,
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they're directing, shooting the cameras. these are the people that live for their weekly paycheck and when the town shuts down, they may not eat. their kids may not be able to go to school. they may lose their houses. there's a lot of things that could happen. >> let's look at the official statement. they said this. critically a work stoppage in may could significantly affect the fall television season. writers in fall typically begin work in may and june. the lead time is needed. this lead time is needed to develop story lines and write episodes prior to the start of producti production. any delay can reduce the amount of new programming available. what they didn't say, well, let's read the other statement. this is wga west which said the board and council in consultation with the negotiating committee are empowered to call a strike after the contract expires after midnight. they said they want to negotiate, but the question is whether or not -- what seems to be a small amount of money they're asking for is still a bridge too far.
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why not give them the money? >> you know what, i'm going to be devil's advocate on both sides because i understand it on both sides. the producers are saying we might have record profits this year, but the television market is shrinking in a way there is no guarantee this is going to continue and if we promise this, we have to keep giving this no matter what happens on our side. >> the writers are saying our health care is in danger. we aren't able to make a living. they're treatmenting netflix and amazon. so i can really see it from both sides. my goal and hope and prayer is that they will stay in the room. i think there is always a way to work things out if people just stay in the room. so just stay in the room. >> when this happened in 2007 the host of late night like jay leno, david letterman ended up waying their crews, too. >> it's something that literally affects everyone and i think sometimes those of us in front of the cameras or the directors
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progressive and can you call yourself a progressive and win that district? >> well, as i have said on cable news before, i really have no interest in ied lol cal labels. i'm happy to talk through the issues and tell you where i stand. i'll leave it to pundits to decide what label fits me best. >> he appears to be having a bit of a labelling problem these days. earlier in the week when the wall street journal asked bernie sanders if he was progressive, sanders said i don't know only to leave a statement saying he supported him. in a closely watched election, ossoff is heading to a run off election against karen handel. joining me now is the mayor of columbus, georgia. >> hi, joy. good morning. >> let's talk a little bit about georgia's sixth district and whether or not a guy might want to be labeled a progressive in
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that district. tell us a little bit about it. >> yeah. well, actually it is an interesting district. those are moderate republicans up there. i think a lot of national coverage has been stressing that it's predominantly republican district and historically that has been true. we've talked about how tom price has faired over the years but you're talking business republicans to the extent they're republicans. it is not a hef ri ideological district. that's the district i grew up in. my parents still live there. my sister lives there, so i'm familiar with it. i think you can see that in some of the numbers. some of the pin has been that he only carried 48% of the vote and somehow that means that 52% of the people voted against him. well, i want to point out that 81% of the people then under that analysis voted against karen handel. so facts are stubborn things. numbers are stubborn things and i would pitch a couple to you for your consideration. jon ossoff carried 88,00 votes.
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those are a lot of people he could bring back to the polls. that's pretty heavy lift for her. so i think you will be looking at voter turn out and motivation and there are factors to consider there. >> let's talk about that voter turn out and motivation. is this a district you perceive people are as hot on this election as the rest of the people in the country are? >> actually they are. look at the turnout. 193,000 voters came out for a special election. that's extraordinary. and, so, you have this very high level of interest. you have jon ossoff carrying these presents well into the northern part of district six and, so, i think some of the factors you need to look to. trump's erratic behavior, business republicans it does not set well with them. it makes them very uneasy. to the extent he is going to
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inject himself into this race that karen handel invites him into the race or embraces him and projects she will enable or facilitate his behavior, that's a motivating factor. you have to look at the freedom caucus is getting a label and an element of dysfunction in washington. i heard a voter say the other day maybe that's the swamp that needs to be drained. i think to the extent she is perceived to be a clear member of the freedom caucus, that may not fair well in that particular district during this particular mood. she's largely seen as an idealog in republican circle. she of course had some trouble with the komen foundation. people believe if you can politicize the fight against breast cancer, you can politicize pretty much anything.
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so to the extent she's seen as an idealog, that's tough. now you will hear the voter suppression moves, which will motivate more voters and you see some elected officials calling for more early voting places, sites in the southern part of the sixth district. if they're successful with the board of elections in that, i think you will see more early voting volume in those heavily democratic presents. >> let's talk a little bit. this is tom price's seat. newt gingrich has held the seat. this fight that feels like a proxy fight from last year over whether or not ossoff is a progressive, would it help him? it sounds to me like he is actually positioned the way you have to be to win in the sixth. >> i think he is positioning himself very wisely as i heard in that clip leading into this. he is, indeed, progressive on
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issues of women's issues, health issues. he's talked about embracing the aca, but with pragmatic changes. that's a clearly pragmatic position, let's say. but he's quite moderate on issues of security, jobs, economic issues. he is not for any tax hikes, things of that nature. so you see him reflecting the more moderate republican mood of that particular district. and tom price did reign for quite some time and newt gingrich as you pointed out. both were seen, particularly newt gingrich as part of that establishment. they had close connections. they were weighty individuals. and i think that the mag matism of the sixth district likes they had notable representation in washington, d.c. but tom price never really had serious challenge. i think one of his last
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challengers raced a whopping $8,000 or something. had there ever been a serious moderate democratic contender, i'm not sure we would have seen those margins. >> i have to ask for a little bit more. you are the mayor of columbus, georgia. you are obviously a woman and a democrat. a white democrat in the south, which people thought don't exist. they do. you are elected in georgia. talk a little bit about georgia. there is a large unregistered black voter registration. is georgia a state that democrats should look to as a potential future purple state and might there ever been a woman govern inner like you, for instance? >> you're kind and i appreciate that. about georgia, you're right, it is purple and frankly for the reasons that we're seeing in the sixth district, those -- many republicans are of moderate or
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business republicans first of all. particularly in the su burr ban areas like we've been talking about this morning. but people forget that there is a very thick band that runs through central georgia. it's called the black belt for agriculture reasons, references to the fertile soil there. it starts on one side of the state and goes through augusta and a thens and those are fairly mid-sized cities, rural areas, if you will and it is reliably democrat. so when people start thinking about the urban centers and all you have to do is carry atlanta and all you have to do is carry savannah, it is more nuanced than that and i think you have to start looking at voter turnout in some of these second-level cities as far as population goes. >> all right. we will definitely be watching it. if you decide to change your job down there in georgia, we'd love to have you come back and announce it on the show.
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the man simply known as prince died one year ago. at his home in suburban minneapolis at the age of 57 and the world still mourns. on friday fans gathered at the minnesota estate to celebrate the legacy he left behind, the same week new details emerged about the drugs found at his home.
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prince remembered by many as the most meticulous musician ever continues to set records. billboard reports that the for the full year of 2016 he outsold every other recording artist with 2.23 million albums sold. and joining me from the brooklyn histori historian, and zahir, thanks for being here. and i think it is shocking that he's not here but could you quantify the legacy of with someone with that volume of work and level of genius. >> it is hard to do that. i think we -- people who were fans of prince expected an album every year and when he didn't release an album a year, he released two the next year. so it is really hard just to know that -- his vault contains music that will rebe leased for a while, but it is hard to really think about the impact that prince has had and i think not only in terms of music and
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culture, but really prince in many ways was himself a sign of the times. and many ways representing and reflecting not only what black life was like during the time he worked and produced art, but also projecting in hopes for transcending the limitations placed on black artists t s dur his performances. >> you're a historian. you teach prince from the historical perspective and could you talk more about that. because prince was obviously performing a certain kind of black masculinity, and what did that mean in the time he was doing it. >> he was an archivist and curator, he drew from chuck berry and little richard as you mentioned, from jimi hendrix, from sly and the family stone, from larry graham, he talked about patterning his guitar solos after the vocal stylings of ella fitzgerald and now he is
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an archive and in that archive we see and find commentary about the cold war, we see and find commentary talking about the shifting and segregated market places as well as even his reflecting the changes in technology and how music was distributed. so he himself kind of provides these interesting sign posts to understand the changes that america has gone through in the last 25 to 30 years. >> is there still a musical tradition that sort of in the prince tradition of being eclectic, in terms of going beyond just r&b and rock and roll, he was a fusion artist, do we have artists of that scale working today. >> i think in many ways there are artists who see him as a model for doing that. we can list people who have kind
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of tried to break out of the roles that people have tried to confine them, people like andre 3000, deangelo and the weekend and there are many, many more. but i don't know that nip was yet kind of captured the totality of his artistry. he was a single-handedly, produced and written and arranged and composed most of his music. he was a virtuoso on guitar. he played piano and drums. he -- like i said, he was extremely prolific. he released an album every year. he had a slew of other material that he gave to proteges like the time and sheila e. and he continued to make music until his final years. >> some are learned about the philanthropy he did and carve out a space and talk about black lives matter and does that make
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it into his legacy than just the music alone. >> i hope so. >> he promoted in his music a revolutionary love ethic and he practiced that in his out reach to various charities. in the '80s he performed for the hearing impaired and performed for special olympics and he became a strong supporter of black lives matter. one of the the last concerts was in baltimore which was a tribute show in memory of freddie gray which went to black lives matter and for prince, his art was not only an extension of his life, but also an extender of black life and he tried to center black art and black life in the work that he did. >> and what do you think in terms of the music industry today, what is his influence, his lasting influence on the industry? >> i think one of his lasting influences on the industry is promoting independence and kind of serving as a warning to artists to watch what they are
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signing, where their money is going. he understood the history of the exploitation of black labor in the music industry and he campaigned strongly and encouraged black artists to regain and maintain control of their productions. >> and in minneapolis, obviously now paisley park is going to soon be a museum, if it is not open already. ha havy you been? >> i have been to minneapolis and paisley park many years, i was fortunate enough to see him perform at paisley park several times and i was there last fall when it reopened. >> now here is the final question and this actually has a right and wrong answer. what is the greatest prince song. >> i would say adore and the beautiful ones. >> you got the wrong answer. it is purple rain. come on, college maiden. it is purple rain. everyone knows that. >> i had to go with the deep cuts. >> we'll argue about it later offline. thank you, zahir. that is our show for today. be sure and join us next weekend
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