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subjects that unfortunately the president doesn't know very much about. the student population is 98% students of color. it is in a tough neighborhood in dorchester. there are too many dangers for the kids who live around there and go to that school that they're exposed to that sidney chafy gets to. i have a particular attachment to that school and help in ways that i can. and sidney chafy, teacher of the year, donald trump and i agree on that. that's the last word. "the 11th hour" starts right now. tonight the political war of the white house tax plan. is the president headed for another defeat? senators at the white house. what did they learn about north korea? plus the investigation on russia. what's next? we'll ask a member of the senate intel committee. and the head of planned
parenthood reacts to the president's first 100 days and what they mean for women. "the 11th hour" begins now. ♪ good evening once again from our head quarters here in new york. i'm nicole wallace. bryan has the night off. it's day 97 of the trump administration and this white house is desperately seeking a win before the 100-day mark. the plan drops the corporate tax rate to 15%. the top tax rate for individuals drops to 35%. it also reduces the seven current individual tax brackets to three. 10% -- now, democrats have repeatedly said negotiations on tax reform will go nowhere until they see the president's tax returns. >> will the president release his tax returns so that -- >> the president has no intention. the president has released
plenty of information and i think has given more financial disclosure and plenty of information on -- right there. excuse me. other people have the right to ask questions. >> you may not have seen the president's tax returns, but according to our estimations, getting rid of the alternative minimum tax rates, he would only have paid 5.3 million in federal income taxes. so your response to critics who say a lot of what you have presented could help the president or his own businesses. >> what this is about is creating jobs and economic growth and that's what massive tax cuts and massive tax reform in simplifying the system is what we're going to do. it's just another example of a third comp lkted set of rules.
>> democrats were also swift to react. senate leader, chuck schumer says it makes life easierer for wealthy and special interests and harder for middle class and lower income americans. let's bring in our panel. ari fliesher. eugene. and steve with me here in new york. ari, i want to start with you because you know lot more about tax reform than i do. why is the president rolling out another piece of legislation without having republicans in congress on board first? >> well, i think they largely are on board. if you heard republicans talk about their better plan. >> they had said that the money isn't there and there's some resistance to spending this kind of money on tax cuts before
spending more money on revenue. isn't that the case? >> this is something that's d dogma to republicans and donald trump ran on it. i think you have to go back to the election when 2/3 of the country thought we were on the wrong track. we've had growth for the last 8 to 10 years. it hurts -- and this is republican dogma, that by cutting taxes, you can increase economic growth. i don't think there's anything surprising or unusual about this. >> eugeen i read somewhere that paul ryan said they didn't have the votes for this just yet. do you see a collision course with republicans in congress? >> yeah. you know, i would take issue with what ari said in one respect. which is i do think this is a surprising and unusual proposal because it's so wild.
cutting rates this much blows something like a $5 trillion hole in the deficit and increases the debt by this much over a decade. and it's also dogma in the republican party that we really need to worry long term about the mounting federal debt. this just sends it to the moon. and that's going to be tough for a lot of fiscal conservative republicans i think to swallow. and remember that it's also dogma among republicans to repeal and replace obamacare. that hasn't worked out so well just yet. it's even more fundamental i think to a lot of republicans who really, really worry about. >> let me bring you in here. what kind of test do you think donald trump faces to prove that he can legislate? >> i think the test is can he get this through? and he's right, the major issue
is it looks like the strategy they're probably going to go with is not bipartisan. pass this with republican votes, use this process called reconciliation. if you got the republican votes, you can get it through. the stumbling block is the question of the deficit. house republicans under paul ryan, they like the idea of tax reform. they also had a way, they thought they could make it deficit neutral. the plan they had been pushing called for an import tax. you slash the corporate rate. it's neutral. the white house is saying they don't want to go down that road. then the deficit becomes the issue. but this is where there might be linkage to the other big development on capitol hill and that is this deal that the most conservative house republicans struck on the idea of obamacare repeal and replace. they said there would be savings
on the deficit. so if you could find a way and they're saying maybe that vote would come first. but if you could find a way, as republicans, to pass, repeal and replace, your plan on obamacare, you could get savings that moilth overcome some of the internal resistance on the deficit question. huge challenge for this white house to put something like this together given what we've seen so far. >> ari's right about the place tax cuts hold in the hearts of traditional republicans and conservatives. but donald trump's promises on nafta were as important to his voters and i was in michigan and pennsylvania and without asking them about nafta, they talk about how they're still waiting for action. the white house has a statement from the president saying that -- late this afternoon president trump spoke to both presidents of mexico and canada. he agreed not to terminate nafta
at this time. he's going to work to make it better. but i know from talking to his voters that what they heard was he was going to pull us out of nafta and they cheered he pulled us out of tpp and i'm sure they're going to be deflated by this commitment to stay in nafta? what do you think the fine line is? >> this is an easy one. there's symbolism. that word, at acronym, nafta. i think it takes on a very powerful, emotional meaning. >> he made it powerful. we heard this at every rally. >> a deal signed by bill clinton and supported strongly by crooked hillary. remember every time you see a closed factory or wiped out community, the clintons really did this to you. nafta was a disaster. >> ari, nafta was a disaster but
we're staying in. never mind. do you think there's any problems not with the republicans, but the democrats that joined this year? >> i think to donald trump everything is a negotiation. he's always been a floating poppialest. and if you believe everything is a negotiation, you begin by moving the goal post and you see what you can get out of it at the end. i think that's what he was doing with the president of mexico and the prime minister of canada. that's what his objective is to see what he can get in a renegotiated nafta. if you don't think he's a diplomat, you should give him credit for working with canada and mexico. you can be disappointed if you pull out today. >> what about this idea that he might not believe in anything? that he'll say anything? we could have played 45 minutes of tape of him railing against nafta, supported by crooked
hillary. i mean, the last president a democratic president supported the tpp. trade creates strange bed fellows but nafta was up there with the wall that evenedetract believed in. >> he ran as a results guy not an ideology guy and the economic nationalism was a kind of theme and yes, he did rail against nafta but i think the bigger potential issue and problem for trump going forward is where are the deals? when is he going to make deals that he promised to make? and so it's one thing if you say well, okay we'll stick with nafta but we're going to make it work in some way that's better for you, mr. and mrs. rus belt. and i don't see that. maybe he has something in his pocket or thinks he has
something in his pocket he can later repeal but so far his record on deal making has not been good at all. >> i think you have to be fair to him and give him more time. i think if you see what he did with china, you recognize the president has good diplomatic skills actually. it's too earl ato reach a conclusion he can't do it. it's way too early. threat play out. see how he does. i understand your hesitation but give the man a chance. that's only right and that's only fair. >> ari, you and i worked for the same president. he passed bipartisan tax cut -- i remember -- >> nicole, taxes did not get done until may. we both love the same president bush but facts are facts. he did not get that done in the first 100 days.
the tax cut was not sign under to law until may. >> is this president on track? is he making as much progress as the last three presidents? has he passed anything yet? he controls all three branchs of government. >> there are many factors. the nomination and the success of neil gorsuch is a huge success for conservatives. >> and he should be given that. >> health care was a tremendous setbacks. the drop in illegal crossings at the border is a gain for the nation. >> are you giving president trump credit for the drop -- >> you better believe it. the one reason they're not coming to the border is because donald trump's the president. not everything comes down to legislation. give him credit where he's due credit. criticize him when he's due.
>> do you think he has sent well cooked, well thought out legislation to congress so far? do you think paul ryan thinks he has a good partner in donald trump? >> i think there's no question on the tax cut. that was well thought out. that's the principals republicans have believed in for years. on health care reform, i think the president was the one pushing for it. it was a failure inside the house republican coges to unify. and if they're not able to unify in the second go round, what'ser the point of having the republicans control the house? republican margins are thin and it's a tricky mix. >> that's the thing. we had a mini drama this week over a government shut down. the first time ever having that discussion -- >> when you control all three branchs, right. >> one of the realities of donald trump is yes, he was a republican on the ballot last year but in a lot of ways he was a political independent who got control of the republican party
through the voters of the republican party and against the wishes of the leadership but even on nafta. what i see there is you got tug of war going on behind the scenes. you've got people like steve bannon saying you're right it's the worst deal you've got to get us out of that. the goldman sachs guys he brought in too. a gary cohen telling him no. you blow this up, there's going to be repercussions. it's not an administration that has a clear focus. >> hold these thoughts. when we come back, we're going to talk about a field trip to the white house. ♪ ♪ i'm dr. kelsey mcneely and some day you might be
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i did not get the sense that a military confrontation is imminent, unless kim jong-un chooses to force one. i'm not that optimistic we're going to be able to stop their steady development of these technologies. but i was encouraged there was a plan laid out. welcome back to "the 11th hour." that was democratic senator discussing the briefing held today on the white house grounds. earlier today i spoke to angus king and we began by discussing the threat north korea poses. >> this is probably the most serious foreign policy question we're facing right now and i think the administration is going about it in the right way. they're really focusing on marshaling our diplomatic assets. the secretary of state is convening a meeting this friday at the u.n. but the key to it all, nicole, has got to be
china. 90% of north korea's trade is with china and china has to decide that it's not in their interest to have a nuclear armed rogue state right on their border. >> now, i know you can't talk about any of the intelligence that's been shared but did the administration ask for you all to make the case for our allies and our friends in the region to be more involved and more aggressive? >> i think the purpose of the briefing and i think -- well, the purpose was to give us the information and i think also it was to have the senate understand the stakes, the strategy and sort of what's going on here in order to try to develop some kind of unified message. i think you know around the world the president speaks with one voice that congress has many voices. burt i think that was one reason for having this meeting. we have these briefings quite
frequently. we had one three weeks ago on the syria strike. usually they're up here, not usually at the white house. i suspect the reason this was at the white house was the president and the vice president were there. and i think that was to underline the seriousness of this issue. >> you also have been proving your independence by defending the senate intelligence committee from charges that it's moving too slowly and failed to appoint full-time staffers to the russia administration. i wonder if you are anxious to see more information or for the white house to be more forthcoming when it comes to documents details someone like mike flynn's contacts with russia? >> we're going to get the information one way or another but it would be helpful if it was forthcoming. my experience in public life is you can't keep something secret forever so let's get to the bottom of it.
we have nine staff people working on this. they are members of the regular committee staff but they're essentially detailed to this project. they're spending nights and weekends at the cia, working on it virtually 24 hours a day. i'm satisfied we're making sufficient progress. everyone would like it to go faster. i would rathver it be right than fast, nicole. i think we're going to have to beef up the staff, perhaps bring on some prosecutorial experience, make sure we're asking the right questions when we get to the witness stage. but right now we have unprecedented access to the documents, we have a room at the cia, members are there, staff's there. it's never as fast as anybody would like. >> you talked about how you can never keep secrets forever. you think there are people input's orbit who are keeping
secrets from the senate intelligence committee at this moment? >> we haven't started to interview those people yet, so i can't say they're keeping anything. some of them have actually talked about coming forward but i think with general flynn for example, he talked about coming forward voluntarily if he could get immunity and i don't think that's likely, at least not from our committee. that's one of the complications is we're conducting this investigation and don't forget the fbi is also conducting an investigation on what may have occurred between the trump campaign and the russians. we don't want to step on what they're doing, we don't want to give a witness immunity that would compromise their investigation. but i'll tell you what i'm determined to get to the bottom of it and i think the important thing i want to convey is this is not a partisan deal. if you had sat in our meeting
yesterday afternoon where we were discussing this at length. it was a closed meeting of the intelligence committee, you could not have told who were republicans, democrats, and independents by our questions, by our comments. we have a unified purpes to get to the bottom of this. i think all of us feel we're living history right now and we don't want to shurk that responsibility. i can tell you straight forward this is not a partisan investigation, a white wash or a witch hunt. if it starts to fall apart, invite me on and i'll tell you that. >> standing invitation for you. any night. thank you so much, senator, for being with us. we appreciate your time. >> thank you, nicole. nice to meet you. >> jeremy was the chief of staff that pentagon and the cia. what to you make of the rather
measured reaction? it sounds like the whole team presented the whole senate with material that left them without a complete picture. >> on process this is a bit theatrical. >> has it ever happened before? >> it has. >> have they ever created a secure briefing location on the white house grounds? >> they may have done that before but probably did not reveal very sensitive information. they're going to do the exact same briefing for 445 members of the house. you can't give the deepest, darkest secrets to 545 memgbers of the congress. they said we've ruled out pre-emptive military a, regime change and basically where they've land is the same place the obama administration landed and the bush administration landed, which is couersive strategies.
the only different aspect are the macho tweets by the president on april. he said if china doesn't take care of the problem, we will, u.s.a., implying pre-emptive military action. that is concerning and dangerous because that could cause miscalculation by kim jong-un. >> and could deflate china's enthusiasm to be a good partner. i want to turn to russia because you were saying a couple days ago the same thing we're hearing now about this committee not being stalled out completely. you should be able to do both, a good investigation and a speedy investigation. what are the perils of losing momentum? >> remember, there are two faces. the first is to analyze what did russia do in our election? both sides are moving with deliberate speed on that. it's the second phase that will be the test of that integrity.
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welcome back to "the 11th hour." in just a couple of days, we will hit the 100 day mark of the trump administration. and steve. >> yes, so where does trump stand at 100 days? it's complicated with donald trump like everything else for the last two years with him. we're going to give you two different versions, diagnoses of where donald trump stands. it's a meltdown, a crisis. this is the first possible interpretation. if you look at the numbers, it's pretty basic. his approval rating sits at just 40% in our poll this week.
historically, i mean this is rock bottom. you go all the way back to eisenhower, the 70s, the 60s. he's barely at 40%. this has implications for what you can do for congress, how far they're willing to go with you. so this looks like a meltdown at this point. but here's a second possible interpretation at 100 days. the rules change snd are the rules different? think back to the campaign. because in the campaign we had all sorts of numbers that were rock bottom for donald trump? right before the election, basically 1/3 of the country said he had the temperament to be president. most people had a very negative view. when we looked at these numbers, we said you can't possibly win. there were just enough voters in just the right places to get in just over the top and elected president. and here's the thing. at 100 days, the same voters are still with him.
only 2% say they regret their vote and if you confront them with the same choice they had back in november, we could never prove or disprove this but hillary clinton would lose to donald trump by 3 points in the poll this week. so it does get to oo question here. this is a big picture. he broke all the rules in the campai campaign. he won. he's got no major legislative achievements at 100 days. we're not sure he'll get one anytime soon. conventionally, that's a disaster. is it different with donald trump? >> thank you, steve and while steve makes his way backing to the panel, we're going to sneak in a break. when we come back, we're going to try to answer that existential question, has everything changed? medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, or adempas® for pulmonary hypertension,
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steve, we have to finish this conversation. has anything changed? >> here's what's changed because of the surprise of donald trump victory, i say i don't know a lot more to questions. >> and now we know just how much we don't know. >> we're seeing rules rewritten in front of us. we're figuring out but i lean towards where you are, towards yes, at least that's where my curiosity is right now. how much of this trump phenomenon, how much of politics today is about culture, about tribalism, about i'm in the red tribe and i have resentments towards the blue tribe and how much is he just a representative of that? >> and the lack of any referees. there used to be three networks that were largely trusted. does that play a role? >> and that's the thing. we're so conditioned to look at
politics, how would his tax plan effect these voters, what do the polls say? and a lot of these cues in the election, in the campaign led us in the wrong direction and what we found out was there were deeper, cultural things going on and i look at that poll and say by god, after 1line d00 days, is almost exactly like it did in november. >> is this what they're counting on is the intensity of their support is going to get them through hard times? >> i think they're looking at it and trying to sell what they've been able to do over the past 100 days and i guess what does work in their favor is the fact that president trump is still in many ways unconventional. he's still speaking to that base and he hasn't really in his rhetoric kind of moderated a lot. he hasn't gone the traditional politician route. he's still kind of saying things
that get attention, things that can be considered outrages and i th think that's what drew lot of his supporters to him, that he wasn't the conventional politici politician. >> do you think that's why he tweets? >> i think that's worked for him. that's what helped to get him where he is thus far. i also think it's innate in his nature right now. i don't know that he could stop tweeting if he wanted to. i think it's something that is very dear to him and that he does. >> people describe my ward robe choices that way. >> so the good. they're good selections. they're well executed and he has had successful visits with she and with abe.
i think those are important and the team around him is serving him well in that regard. >> you think they had to explain to him how important it was to have him on board to not get nuked by north korea? >> i think he likes being liked and wanted to make deals and looking to bond with somebody, his counterpart in china and that makes him feel presidential and i think his team had to tell him exactly what was at stake and what they had to achieve at mar-a-lago. he's not accepting the intelligence committee's findings. and slashed it funding that state department. right below those cabinet techs, very few people have been nominated. there is not a deputy secretary of state. we've never been at the 100 day
mark. they're nundersecretaries. there are lot of people on a treadmill basically waiting for these positions to be held. it's hard to get policy decisions out of the inneragency out of the white house and in terms of the good, the bad, the ugly, i think the claim that his predecessor wire tapped him is dangerous. after sally yates warned the white house that mike flynn was potentially a problem and they kept him in the job before the press blew t whistle. and we can't forget the disastrous muslim only ban which not only failed to protect us but potentially made us more unsafe. >> what would the president say about that list? >> i think they would definitely agree with the good, that he's done very good on the foreign
policy side and i mean, in that way, they have had some wins. the strike in syria was kind of universally praised. i think where they would disagree as far as the fact that he hasn't nominated or filled a lot of positions, they tend to blame the dmps and obstruction. now, obviously if you don't nominate someone, then that can't be blamed on obstruction but that's what they've been -- that's their argument on those issues. so their argument is that they've made a lot of progress in 100 -- in the first 100 days and even though they haven't had a lot of legislative achievements that they've been able to do a utlot of rolling back regulation, successful at getting their message out, doing all the executive orders.
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welcome back. ohio governor, john kasich out with a new book this week. two paths, america divided or unit united, spoke to me about what it's going to take if this white house ever wants to turn the page on its ties to russia and how donald trump won in the first place. >> we see this trump folks and we know they're hurting, a lot of them, not all of them. but there's a lot of people in america, underemployed or the kid can't get a job and they're really upset. i'm a positive populous. my message is we'll fix it. >> but why didn't that work? >> because i said the problem is
complicated. what he said is i'm a strong man and i'll get it all fixd and people want a pill a bumper sticker, an app. >> a quick fix. >> nothing works that way. you know. you were right in the middle of government. >> but it was change at any cost. >> yeah. i think that's right. i wouldn't say -- yeah, maybe i was frustrated. i look back i don't have anything but good memories of the whole ordeal but what i found on the campaign trail is they don't want to talk about balanced budgets or tax cuts. they want to know do you care about me? there are people who just don't think people care about them. s >> as a candidate, you couldn't bring yourself to vote for him. >> i didn't even go to the convention in cleveland. people thought i was angry. that had nothing to do with it.
people think politics is transactional. whatever you say today can be changed for tomorrow. that's not what we believe. we believe that what you say today is how you could change your mind but these are deeply held believes and how do you just switch your deeply held believes to make somebody in the political party happy. jfk says sometimes my party asks too much and i happen to agree with that. >> but it wasn't beyond your belief in service or patriotism. >> no. >> and you helped to navigate the health care policy -- >> well, they wanted to see me and i went and talked to them and told them how i thought he could handle health care. i think there's a tug of war, idia logs who pull in one way. i don't know who they all are. all i know is i had a meeting with sec aretary price. the president asked me if i would talk to him. my people were sitting there. they said half the room agreed
and the other half wanted to put me through a trap door. i didn't observe that. >> i want to hear what you think of some of his moves as president. how do you feel they're handling ongoing questions about his team, his orbit the people around donald trump and russia? >> i think they have to have an investigation and i hope it doesn't fall apart. >> like a 9/11 style commission? >> no, i would like to do it within the intelligence committee but you cannot start shutting out the democrats. warner i hear is getting frustrated. over in the house i've talked to schiff. i don't know him. we were together on a panel and i said you're a really bright guy and you could have a great future unless you become a partisan. if the republicans cooperate, you shouldn't have a special deal, but if it all falls apart, you got to get to the bottom of it, not because they're going to
think trump won because of that but we've got the russians messing around in our elections. that's not acceptable. >> i wonder what you think of his campaign promises. >> a lot of the campaign promises are now reflecting what i had to say when i was running and nicole, never in my life have i been described as boring. but i didn't say on day one we're going to deport 13 million people or get out of nato, appallish medicare, i thought it was all nonsense. and there was so many other things. now we see it settling down, it's pretty interesting. we cannot have politics be make whatever wild promise you can and people will vote for you. people have to be smarter than that and we'll see. >> do you see any evolution or growth in terms of his temperament? >> i think so. i haven't seen as much twitter activity. i will say this the strike on
syria mattered for this reason. mccain invited me to go to munich. when i was in munich they didn't know what we were doing and what that strike did was sent a message that we're not a bunch of patsies and we are not going away. i don't like this immigration, this knock and talk. knock on the door and -- and if we find somebody who has been law abiding in america even though they broke the law to get here we have to ship them out. we want to break up families if they have been here? they make them pay a penalties. >> george w. bush believed in comprehensive immigration reform. >> isn't that unbelievable we couldn't get that done? it was all politics. politicians being unwilling to do something because they were worried about being reelected. every politician has been worried about being reelected mptd sometimes it cannot be an
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the organization for health care. i asked about ongoing efforts by republicans tout feder funding to planned parenthood. >> congress is trying to say to women you can't go to planned parenthood anymore for birth control or for cancer screenings. and that includes a lot of republican women in this country who can't understand why congress is basically kind of playing politics with their access to affordable health care. >> you see renes grappling with that reality. he is not on board with the plan to defund planned parenthood. does that give you some glimmer of hope that there might be more republicans that join that coalition? >> and if you use the example of
nevada planned parenthood is very popular in nevada. a lot of women come to us for health care. >> is it because of economic circumstances in novembevada? >> we are kind of popular everywhere. we are in all 50 states. when women come to planned parenthood for preventive health care they are not coming to make a political statement but they need high quality affordable care. >> do you look at ivanka as a potential way in to this white house in terms of educating them but maybe garnering more understanding of health care services that planned parenthood provides? >> i think that it's a shame because i think he does understand and believe in a lot of things that we do. it is too bad that now that he is in washington i think he is becoming more like a politician and less like someone who thinks independently. now that ivanka her portfolio in
the white house is all women's ielshs. so in terms of the future women's economic elbeing in the country and access to the health care, ivanka trump recollect that is her job. the first 100 days have been tough on women for sure. >> in what way? >> the first act by this president was to end maternal health programs globally. we have seen the efforts. even broader than other presidents before. now this effort in congress that the president or the white house has been supporting to end access to planned parenthood, take away maternity benefits for women. a lot of things are at stake. she is coming in at a very important time. i think this is an opportunity to change the direction of this white house. i think if we are going to rebuild our economy and get it going you can't do that without making sure that half of the workforce which are women can participate fully. >> my last question is about the
politics of planned parenthood and abortion. it used to be when i was coming up in republican politics it was perilous to be a pro choice republican. you knew who the other six pro choice republican women were and you sort of hung together. i wonder if there is something similar happening on the democratic side. is it difficult right now to be a pro life democrat? do you guys make it difficult? >> i don't think so. i feel like abortion is one of these issues that i think shouldn't be politicized and i think is a deeply personal issue. i respect folks having their own personal feelings about it. what should the government be doing about it. there are room for people to have their own personal opinions without saying i am going to make everybody else abide by my own views. the truth is and perhaps this is partly a result of the election, support for roe versus wade has never been stronger in this
country. it is also at a time because of the progress we have made on women's health we are at a historic low for teenage pregnancy in the u.s. lowest rate of abortion since roe was decided. to me that means we are actually making progress on reducing unintended pregnancy and getting women access to affordable health care. i hope the administration will think twice before signing into law legislation that would take away women's access to health care. >> my thanks to suseal richards for her time and to all of our panelists. that does it for this edition of 11th hour. i'm nicole wallace in for brian. good night.
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