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hello, i'm stephanie gosk at msnbc world headquarters in new york. it's high noon in the east, 9:00 a.m. out west, and day 100 of the trump administration. just minutes ago the president tweeted, looking forward to the rally in the great state of pennsylvania tonight. big crowd, big energy. but the voters aren't quite as upbeat. in a new poll, less than half say they approve of the president's efforts so far.
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the polls are out too on the revised health care bill and they paint a tenuous picture for the president. just 20% of those surveyed believe it's very likely the bill will be passed. now more than three months into his term, president trump admits he's surprised at how hard it's been to repeal the affordable care act. a key promise of his campaign. >> unfortunately, because of the hard time that the republicans have had getting their hands around this thing, which shouldn't be, because it -- you know, i once said it's complicated. but it's not complicated compared to other things being complicated. it's not that hard. i was disappointed that they didn't have more in line by the time i walked in. but obamacare took 17 months of brutality to get it approved. >> at a private event in new york on thursday, former president obama couldn't help taking a shot at his successor, reportedly telling the crowd that the aca is more popular
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than its ever been, an more popular even than president trump. trump is certainly expected to defend some of his legislative setbacks at a campaign-style rally tonight in pennsylvania to mark his 100th day. let's bring in nbc's kelly o'donnell at the white house. kelly, trump working to rally support out there as he faces the lowest approval ratings on day 100 of any president in recent history. what's his strategy today? >> reporter: well, by using this 100th day to wrap himself in the supporters and the campaign energy that was so much a part of what he enjoyed about being a candidate, the president can use this event to try to talk about the things that he thinks he has done well and things that he believes his administration has already accomplished and outline some of the steps still to come. so a rally in many ways makes perfect sense for him to use that to mark the milestone because that seems to be where he has enjoyed the presidency the most.
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now, one of the big ideas he has for the next year or so, it will take a long time, is a plan for tax cuts and tax reform. we saw how this week he unveiled at least the outline of that to get it in under the 100-day mark, to get people talking about it, and it includes some big tax cuts. now, the administration says they're aimed at the middle class, but they would also definitely affect those wealthiest americans as well as corporations. and so in an interview with fox news, the president was asked wouldn't this really help his own family, the wealthy, and he had a different take on it. here's what he said. >> i'm going to end up paying more than i pay right now in taxes, all right? i will pay more than i pay right now. the reason i'm going to pay more is because i lose all the deductions. they have deductions on top of deductions. they have hundreds and hundreds of pages of deductions. >> so eliminate those -- >> reporter: and one of the big questions, of course, as the president has refused to release his tax returns. he's the first president since
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richard nixon not to do so and the only glimpse we've had about what he has actually paid in the past was back in 2005. the record there, a couple of pages of his tax return that indicated that he paid roughly $30 million in tax. what it would do to the president's own return, to that of his family, think of things like the estate tax is something they want to remove. that would certainly benefit his children. removing the alternative minimum tax, which is meant to make certain the wealthiest pay tax even after all those deductions, that would be removed. so it's very unclear how the tax plan would unfold because it was really just a statement of principles, no specifics yet. that will take a long time. but for this 100th day, the president will get out of town, going to see some of his supporters. he will also sign an executive order related to trade. another big theme of his campaign, something that matters a great deal to his supporters. this executive order will begin a review of all current trade
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deals. sort of a look at the lay of the land, of the u.s. interacting with world partners in global trade and see where those changes need to be made. so it will have some impact but not immediately, and the president probably looking forward to this particular milestone being behind him, there's still, i think, 1300 days to go in this first term. stephanie. >> yep, we are only just beginning. nbc's kelly o'donnell at the white house. thank you. for more on the president's first 100 days, let's bring in andy card, former white house chief of staff under president george w. bush and an msnbc political analyst. andy, president bush took office not having won the popular vote yet we didn't see the kind of protests by opposition groups like we've seen basic ole an a weekly basis with president trump. what's different now? >> well, i just think it's the nature of politics today and the fact that we have a digital way of communicating with each other, so there's no filter
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between what happens in washington and what the people are responding to. and i think that's made a difference. so it's kind of more invitation for the mob to play a role. democracy was formed to insulate washington, d.c., from the mob, but the mob shows up and president trump has an unbelievable network that he can reach. he can reach 30 million people with his tweets. and that doesn't go through your filter. so he has direct access. and the other side has direct too with the digital communications. i think that's a big part of it. also, this past election was an election where the dialogue was not very noble. so i think the cancer of how we talk about each other is spreading and it's not a good thing. i happen to believe that most people who serve in government are noble in their expectations, and they should have the courage to have a dialogue to get things done. the democrats have not demonstrated much noble interest in a dialogue.
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they don't look like they want to be part of any solution, they just want to be the contrarians, and the republicans are infighting and so they haven't even found a way to compromise with each other, never mind reaching across the aisle to compromise with democrats. i think that's something that's unfortunate and it has given more definition to the state of politics today than almost anything else. >> you know, it does seem like there's a lack of civility on both sides of the aisle. is what you're saying that we live in a different political environment right now than what you saw during the bush administration? >> well, clearly the ability to reach voters by tweeting and causing them to react very quickly, it doesn't invite as much room for judgment. and if you don't have judgment, you seldom have good laws passed. you want laws passed using good judgment, and you'd like wisdom to be part of that solution too.
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so any time you have an emotional response to a problem, it probably doesn't reflect the best judgment in terms of what the solution will be. so i'd like to see more judgment exercised and more civil dialogue, and that starts at the top. it starts with the president. he should give permission for people to be partners in governing and invite them to come to the table and offer solutions rather than dictate a particular solution and have them react to that. i like seeing -- actually the tax plan that president obama has outlined, it's a very simple plan. he's got kind of a one-pager. but it does suggest that there should be a dialogue. come to the table and be part of that process. chairman kevin brady of the ways and means committee is going to have a huge job. the burden really falls on him and the speaker of the house to put the infrastructure in place to have tax reform. president trump said this is my outline of what i think should happen. let's get to work on filling in
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all the details. and then it's important for them to be able to discuss those details with the american public so the people will understand what the tax reform will do for them. so hopefully this process of inviting congress to be part of the solution rather than dictating to congress what the solution should be is going to start a new wave of legislative action that reflects judgment, responsibility and wisdom. >> well, you sound very optimistic, but the first 100 days are really marked by legislative failures. what happened with the health care bill? and how much of the responsibility of that is on president trump's shoulders? >> well, for better or for worse, a lot of the responsibility falls on the president because he is the leader. i think the toughest job in washington is actually paul ryan's, the speaker of the house. he's got to herd all these cats. it's hard to herd the cats even in his own caucus, never mind all of congress, so he's got a tough job.
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but i do feel that the aca is not working well. so it needs to be reformed or replaced. should it be repealed? only if it can be replaced. and that's a very hard thing to do. so i think the president acknowledged that it's hard. yes, i think there is some credible criticism of the republicans not having had a true game plan. after all, they have been critical of the aca for a very long time. they should have had a replacement strategy in place, not just a repeal strategy. but we know that. this is a work in progress. but i guarantee the affordable care act as it is currently written and being implemented leaves a lot of problems in america and we've got to address those problems. so i want congress to be able to work together to come up with a way to fix our health care climate so that the people are better served by the opportunity to get responsibility health care without burdening the middle class and without
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creating a network that is not likely to produce positive results for better health care in the country. i think the republican game plan is starting to move in that direction. i was pleased that the freedom caucus woke up to the reality that there has to be a replacement, not just a repeal. it seems to me that they have set some template to go forward, they just haven't got the votes yet and that takes a lot more work. that's the challenge of governing. >> i want to quickly turn to foreign policy. as you know, foreign policy is where a u.s. president has the most unilateral control. what do you make of trump's foreign policy decisions up to this point? >> well, he gets high marks for having firm reaction to syria. i think that he earned a lot of credibility not just with the american people, but also he woke up leaders around the world. they're paying attention and actually like to see a president who is, you know, action oriented as long as responsible, and the response in syria i
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think was a responsible response to what syria was doing. with regard to north korea, nouk north korea is a challenge. i would be very careful with bellicose comments coming out of the president's mouth or the administration. i think we should be raising the alarm and really be concerned, but i don't want any president to fail to recognize that the greatest burden of the presidency is understanding the reality that when a service member dies and there is a funeral, a flag, a carefully respected and folded flag is presented to the family of the fallen hero. and the words that are delivered to that family are "on behalf of the president of the united states and a grateful nation, thank you for your sacrifice." so bellicose talk should always come with a careful recognition that there are complications and
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there will be sacrifices made that no president wants to invite on anybody, but the president owns the gratitude for the sacrifice that is made. >> andy, president trump said that this job is a lot tougher than he expected. is there a certain amount of learning on the job that you can expect from the new president or should there be concern that he seems to be just catching up with some of the poimportant issues today? >> i don't care how prepared somebody was to be president, the job is harder than they thought it was going to be, even when they were well prepared. so yes, the job of being president is such that if the chief of staff is doing his job, the president never makes an easy decision, only makes brutally tough decisions. and the consequences of those decisions are significant. that's why you want to do the best job you can at having people help you understand the consequence of a decision so that there are fewer unintended consequences. but the job is tough. and if the job -- if the
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president is making an easy decision, they really are wasting their time. other people in government can make easy decisions on government. the president makes the toughest decisions and has to live with the consequence of those decisions. so yes, it's a tough job. every president comes to recognize it. i don't think there's been a president ever who thought the job was easier or found the job easier than they expected it to be. they almost always find it harder than they expect it to be. >> that's some great perspective from someone who certainly knows. andy card, thank you very much. >> great to be with you. and thank you for what you're doing. >> you're welcome. happening now, a massive protest is about to get under way in washington, d.c., over president trump's actions on climate change. the people's climate march will kick off any moment now from the capitol building. crowds will march down pennsylvania avenue and end at the white house. it comes just a day after president trump signed an executive order aimed at expanding offshore drilling for oil and gas.
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nbc's anthony terrell is at the march and joins me now. anthony, how do the crowds compare to the science march that was just held last weekend? >> reporter: hi, stephanie. you know, i asked organizers that question and they say last week's march was about awareness. this week it's about action. now, there's about 900 different groups that are here and joining about eight different contingencies behind me, including the protectors of justice, which are made up of indigenous peoples as well as climate justice marchers. with me is remy with the indian problem. why are you here? >> i'm here to actually march and address some of the issues that go on in indian land, which is pretty much this whole continent. but we have a lot of extractive industries who are in cahoots with the corporations and also some members of washington. so what we want to do is come here to where a lot of the decision-making is and really show them, you know, the strength that we have and how serious we are about this whole
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environmental movement. >> remy, can you describe some of the atmosphere there in this first group? >> it's great. a lot of indigenous folks, a lot of front line folks. you have members from aim, you have black lives matter, a lot of these front line organizations and people are really the canaries in the mine shaft in the sense, because in terms of extractive industries, indigenous people have been telling folks for a long time, hey, respect the earth, respect people. an i think if we would have been doing that, we would be not doing this type of stuff. >> remy, thank you very much. >> sure. >> enjoy the march. stay hydrated. thanks. now, stephanie, we will be marching down pennsylvania avenue. we'll be in front of trump international hotel. a couple of groups behind this one is the defenders of truth, including scientists and educators. marching with that group, former vice president al gore. >> all right, nbc's anthony terrell braving some pretty hot temperatures down in d.c. today. thank you. >> reporter: it's hot, thanks.
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day 100 of president trump's term, and as usual if it's a saturday, there's a march or a protest. right now across the country, it's the people's climate march. the one in washington, marchers are expected to encircle the white house where the president happens to be right now. to talk about that, let me bring in eliza collins and jay newton small, "time" magazine contributor. eliza, are we seeing the beginnings of a kind of permanent protest class? >> well, we've definitely seen
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protests nearly weekly, like you said just mentioned, on that natural mall. protests are nothing new, but i do think it is amped up under president trump. the woman's march sort of set the scene. it was massive. there was hundreds of hundreds of thousands of people and also around the world. people saw it worked, it got under the president's skin, he commented on it. so i think people are coming out to things they see are import and the and they see that national mall right up in front of the white house is a good place to do it. >> jay, i want to turn to health care now. according to a new poll, 58% of those asked say the health care bill is very or somewhat likely to be passed. if congress can't get it across the finish line and soon, who's to blame for that? >> well, this is obviously the second attempt that they have done to try to pass the repeal of obamacare. the fact of the matter is it failed to get -- garner enough votes to be able to do it before the 100-day deadline today,
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which is what they had been hoping to do. they think they'll have the votes by early next week. by no means ask that mean it's guaranteed passage in the senate. most people think it's doa in the senate. you've seen a lot of senators be incredibly comment aquiet and nt about what's going on in the house. it's a much harder lift in the senate. they don't have a 60-vote majority and so it's going to be a real challenge to get it through. so the likelihood of them getting something done on obamacare through both chambers of congress is very small. >> eliza, it occurs to me that one thing that this health care battle may have done that really the obama administration never could was educate americans about what aca has actually done for them. it's more popular now than ever. will this make it harder to repeal and replace? >> i think definitely. we saw the numbers of how people felt about obamacare go up for the first time. and so people are frustrated and they're nervous.
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they think now that it's an actual reality, i mean republicans talked about this for seven years. but they always knew that president obama was going to veto it and i think that's why we saw those bills passed. also president trump is now saying you need a replacement. it can't go as easily. we went back home and over recess i was traveling with congressman mark meadows who was one of the people to stop it. constituents, while they like what he was doing, they do like their health care. these are people that need health care, so they want to make sure that there's at least a replacement. >> the president himself saying that it is actually more complicated than he realized it was going to be. he also, jay, said that the job itself is more complicated and difficult than he realized. listen to what he had to say. >> you know, being presidential is easy. much easier than what i have to do. >> this is more work than in my previous life. i thought it would be easier. >> so what's the legitimate learning curve for him? it seems to me that any
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president is going to go through a period of time where they have to learn how difficult the job is. is the criticism of him for these comments fair, do you think? >> well, i think there's definitely been a lot of snark about the idea that being a reality tv show star is not as challenging as it might be to run the leader of the free world, but certainly he also was a very successful businessman and ran a very large company and so -- but these are all things that generally speaking, conventional wisdom in america is this is one of the hardest jobs in the world. it is full of incredibly tough decisions and it shun ouldn't b that surprising that anybody wo would feel a steep learning curve because you have to make life-and-death decisions almost every day. >> eliza collins, jay newton small, thanks for being with us. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thanks, stephanie. hugh hewitt joins me in a few minutes to talk about what he calls president trump's shuffle to the center.
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welcome back. i'm stephanie gosk here at msnbc world headquarters in new york. at the half hour, here's what we're watching. two climate marches under way now. on the left, you have denver. on the right as you look at the screen, washington, d.c. in d.c., crowds will start at the capitol building and then march down pennsylvania avenue and end at the white house. it comes just a day after president trump signed an executive order aimed at expanding offshore drilling for oil and gas. that's below normal temperatures in denver and above normal in d.c. happening now as well, more
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details about the latest missile test by north korea. we first got word of the test yesterday evening. it was launched from a site a few miles north of the capital city pyongyang. kelly cobiella is in seoul, south korea, with the latest on this story. kelly, what else do we know about the test and what has the reaction been? >> reporter: stephanie, this is yet another failure for kim jong-un and the north korean regime when it comes to missile tests but it's about a lot more than that. this is about a message being sent to the international community as well and they are responding today. south korea saying this is a clear violation of the united nations security council resolutions. also saying it's another sign of north korea's, quote, belligerence and recklessness. president donald trump tweeted about this overnight. this is what he said in the tweet. north korea disrespected the wishes of china and its highly respected president when it
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launched though unsuccessfully a missile today. bad. president trump repeatedly saying that china is the key to putting pressure on north korea to stop its nuclear missile programs. u.s. pacific command tells us they first detected this launch 5:33 in the morning local time this morning at a site north of the capital pyongyang. two u.s. military officials teld nbc news this involved a medium-range ballistic missile. that it flew for a couple of minutes and then exploded in midair about 20 miles from the launch site. this is now the third failed missile test for north korea just this month, but no mention at all of this in north korean state media. in fact north korea repeating a very familiar threat, saying again today, that they're continuing on to develop a missile, a nuclear-tipped missile able to reach the united states.
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stephanie. >> all right, nbc's kelly cobiella in seoul. thank you very much. the president is marking his 100th day in office with a rally in harrisburg, pennsylvania. nbc's jacob rascon is in harrisburg ahead of tonight's big event. jacob, this is a state where the president scored an upset victory back in november and coincidentally or not, it's where he laid out his ten-point plan for the first 100 days in office. do you think that's why the president chose to return to the keystone state today? >> we have asked and officially they haven't said. but you're right, that's where it happened. it's also, as you said, one of those states that put him over the top, the surprise victory. he has a lot of support in this area. it's funny, the first five people in line, we have the first person from new york, the second person from ohio, then new jersey, connecticut, florida, drove all the way last night and they're just ecstatic to be here. i've been all week out in michigan, arizona and other places talking to those who voted for the president and how
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is he doing, i would ask. mostly they give him really high marks. we have one person with us who is one of the first in line from ohio. this is becky g. and you work on a dairy farm in ohio. >> yes. >> how would you grade the president's first 100 days? >> i would grade him as an a plus. i think he's doing a great job. he's doing everything he promised. he's working on the repeal and replace of obamacare, he appointed the supreme court justice, he's working on the tax cuts. i think he's doing a great job. >> what do you make of the health care bill failed in congress, the travel ban got tied up in the courts. are you disappointed in these things? >> i am, yeah. i would like to see him fight that to the supreme court with the travel ban. i feel that it is in the best interests of our nation that that goes back into place. >> and specifically you were telling me on a dairy farm, you're having issues there and you link it to illegal immigration. >> yeah. wisconsin right now is really having an issue with all their
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producers have nowhere to send their milk. a lot of it has to do with the size of the farms, they're getting bigger and bigger and that's because of the illegal migrant workers coming in. farms keying getting bigger and bigger because they can have all this cheap labor. if that wasn't available, farms wouldn't get that big and pushing out the smaller and medium-size people. >> you're one of those who wants the physical wall built. >> yes, i want the physical wall built, yes. >> and it would be safe to say if it didn't get built, you would be disappointed. >> yes. >> thanks so much for your time, becky, appreciate that. >> reporter: again, from ohio, we had from new york. the line is already i think a thousand people long and it will only grow. it feels like the campaign. those who went to the polls for him who were his core base, they're still out here for him. stephanie? >> all right, nbc's jacob rascon. thank you very much. i want to bring in hugh hewitt now, msnbc political analyst and host of "the hugh hewitt show" on salem radio networks. hugh, thank you very much for
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joining me. >> thank you, stephanie. >> i want to start by asking you, 100 days, what kind of grade does president trump get? >> a solid "b." it's a sea change from president obama. a lot has been accomplished. gorsu gorsuch, gorsuch, gorsuch being the huge win. but the strike on searia, the use of the m.o.a.b. in afghanistan, the charming of president xi that is going on, the revitalization of the relationship with nato, with jen stoltenberg in the country, not withdrawing from nafta. he's signed 30 laws, 13 of them have significance beyond what many people understand and they operate to bar future regulat n regulations in the areas they have passed. a lot undone and some unnecessary stumbles. you and i are not enemies of the american people. you never call a federal judge
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that so he gets in his way. i found your conversation with andy card, which was a terrific interview. when card said if the president is making easy decisions, the chief of staff is not doing his job. president trump has acknowledged over the last few days it's a very hard job so reince priebus is doing his job. and i am very happy actually where we are after 100 days, but i want the momentum in the right direction to continue, not abate. >> well, let's talk about one of those setbacks, one of the critical ones for president trump, health care. you know, it was one of his chief campaign promises to repeal and replace obamacare, but his bill swiftly failed in the house and president trump last night laying the blame at the feet of congress. let's listen. >> i'm disappointed that it doesn't go quicker. i like them a lot. i have great relationships. don't forget, most of them i didn't even know. but the freedom caucus, we love our president, we're doing this
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for our president. you look at that, you look at the moderates, the same thing. we love our president. they have different views. i have a party that's covering a lot of territory. they have different views. i'm disappointed -- i tell you, paul ryan is trying very, very hard. i think everybody is trying very hard. it is a very tough system. >> do you think, hugh, at this point the finger pointing is productive? and where do you stand on where the blame needs to be here, whether it's shared or whether it really can be put at the feet of paul ryan? >> great clip. i do not blame the speaker as the president does. i personally hold the freedom caucus responsible or what i call the area 51 subcaucus within it. they stopped the momentum of repeal and replace. obamacare right now is actually freedom caucus care. now they have come around but it's a little late and the window is broken and they're trying to put it back together. charlie dent, who's a pal and a bunch of liberal republicans from the northeast have got
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their concerns. they have got to get it together and the president's frustration is paul ryan's frustration is my frustration. >> i think we've just lost hugh hewitt's signal there. we'll try to get him back. oh, he's back. >> i'm back. >> thank you for rejoining us. >> packet loss, packet loss. i was just saying i would want the house republicans to take the ryan way and do 75% of the repeal and replace that they had on the table and to move forward quickly and not to allow their individual constituencies to drive paralysis. i'd also point out, stephanie, the president has been very good on immigration. the delayed action, deferred action on children, childhood arrivals, d.a.c.a., he's not spending them home so that shuffle to the center that i wrote about yesterday i view as very promising if he continues
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to 'em brace immigration reform. jeff sessions has been laying down a stringent approach to the border. that's very good. you can combine that with immigration normalization for the people that are here and it could turn into being a great second 100 days. >> you mentioned domestic policy. has there been any shuffle in foreign policy? >> yes, i think the fact the president xi came to mar-a-lago. the great enemy of the campaign and the transition, remember the phone call to the president of taiwan, has become his working partner in the containment of the irrational regime of kim jong-un. i have to say president trump isn't inside his software, he's certainly inside the young man's head and that's partly because president xi is working with him. the secretary general came here and he said nato is relevant again because he's getting the redirection that he wants.
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and i also look at not withdrawing from nafta. that's a shuffle to the center that i greatly applaud because i'm a free trader. so i believe that gary cohn and steve mnuchin, they also dropped the attack on the home moorartg interest deduction. the wall street journal republicans wanted to kill that and secretary mnuchin didn't want to do that. that's more of the shuffle to the center. so on tax reform, on immigration, on foreign affairs, nato, nafta, china, he's doing that incremental move to the center, which is powerful. even though it doesn't show up in the polls yet, it's powerfully effective over the long term. >> hugh hewitt, thank you very much. host of "the hugh hewitt show." >> thanks, stephanie. >> have a good day. so how will history view president trump's transition and first 100 days? i'll ask one of the few people who predicted a trump win last november.
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next hour, the one achievement this president has made that a democratic member of congress actually likes.
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do you ever think maybe one term would be enough of this kind of life? >> well, i mean i want to see how we're doing. i hope that we do so well that things are good, that i could either run easily and nicely and enjoy the fruits of what we did. maybe it takes a little bit longer. but i think we're doing tremendously well. i don't think anybody has ever done this much in 100 days. but i've always said it's going to be eight years, not four years. >> president trump talking about his 100 days in office. let's bring in alan lickman, distinguished professor of history at american university. earlier president trump said he was surprised being president is such hard work. what's your take on those
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remarks? at the very least, sort of brutally honest, aren't they? >> it's typically trump. after his first couple of marriages, he said, you know, marriage is so hard. you've heard of the high maintenance wife, you've heard of the low maintenance wife. i want the no maintenance wife. apparently he seems to have gotten that with melania so this is a typical m.o. of donald trump, to be kind of nostalgic about a situation where he doesn't have to work so hard. the other thing that's unique about the presidency that he's never had before, he's now accountable. he can't declare bankruptcy. he can't walk away from deals. he can't settle things. he is ultimately accountable to the american people, and that is really hard and really tough, and he's got to face up to that. >> let me ask you this. he's had a busy 100 days. he's signed 28 pieces of legislation and 29 executive orders. how does president trump stack up to his predecessors at the 100-day mark? >> well, he hasn't, unlike his
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predecessors, achieved any major piece of legislation through the congress or have a major piece of legislation really on his way. but i take an entirely different take. i think we're all misleading ourselves in talking about points on the board. what really counts is what's good for the american people and the world. i think it was a wonderful thing that that health care bill failed. that was an awful bill. it would have knocked 24 million people off the insurance rolls. it would have given a huge giveaway to the rich and it was supported by 17% of the american people. and rather than moving the bill to the center, like your last guest indicated, what we've seen of the revisions makes it even worse, and particularly for women. it's astonishing that ivanka trump can go around the world saying how wonderful her father is for women, just look at what that health care bill means for things like maternity care. >> well, alan, let me ask you is
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there anything that's positive about the last 100 days? you are incredibly critical. >> i think there are some very positive things and your last guest pointed them out. he hasn't gone into a trade war and moved us into instant protectionism. he seems to recognize the value of our allies, particularly our nato allies. he seems to be backing away from building this wall, and i hope absolutely he does. so there are certainly some pluses to put on the board. but i think they're far outweighed by the minuses. let me point out one other thing that really has been missed. look at everybody marching about climate and the environment. he is not just halting, he has thrown into reverse efforts to combat catastrophic climate change. in 2009 donald trump signed a letter to then president obama saying the science is irrefutable that unless we take strong action on climate change the results are going to be catastrophic for our planet.
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the only thing that's changed in eight years is the science is stronger, the threat is more urgent, but donald trump has now decided for his political base, he needs to become a climate change denier and throw into reverse our efforts and threaten the well-being and survival of everyone on this planet. that's serious, that's why you've got these many thousands of people marching, and it's about time we faced up to it. >> all right, historian alan lickman, thank you very much. >> my pleasure. powerful message about the environment from protesters hitting the streets in cities across america. we've done well in life, with help from our advisor, we made it through many market swings. sure we could travel, take it easy... but we've never been the type to just sit back... not when we've got so much more to give
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because the time to think about today. go long. thousands of protesters hitting the streets in cities across the country. organizers say that people's climate march is aimed to voice concern about climate change on the 100th day of donald trump's presidency. a live report on this at the top of the hour.
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let's bring in republican strategist noelle and peter anderson who's worked for three democratic administrations. noelle, let's start with you. there are dozens of anti-trump protests planned over the next few days. today against his climate policies and monday against his immigration ones. sometimes it seems like there's a protest every day. is this what we're in for for the next four years? >> i certainly hope not. but what i can -- what i'd like to say is this. if president trump fails, if his policies fail, i don't think people understand we all fail. it's not just president trump and his policies, it's all of us together. and i think that a lot of times when the shoe is on the other foot, when you had obama and a lot of republicans were very against obama, republicans needed to face the fact that if obama failed, we, the people, failed as well. so i think we're sitting in
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another position to where if president trump's policies don't work out or if they have glitches or if they have to be redone, this is not a celebration for the other side. i understand the protests and i understand people angry about things and we live in a beautiful country that we can protest. but what i don't think that a lot of people understand, if his policies fail and if these things don't get off, we all fail. >> peter, let me ask you, are democrats being intentionally divisive with these protests just for division sake? >> no, quite the contrary. obviously trump has set a stage where he's put such radical ideas out, for instance, that there is no such thing as man made climate change, that people are reacting to the lies and trying to re-establish facts because without facts, we can't have this debate, whether it be today or in the congress or anywhere in this country. and that's what's at risk here is that no one really knows
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where the truth is or where the facts lie because everyone is making stuff up as we go. and that's very dangerous to our democracy. >> noelle, changing gears here just a little bit, in a new interview, president trump says the job isn't exactly what he expected, that it's tougher than his previous life. is that really what you want to hear from your president? >> well, i was a little surprised for that comment, i will tell you, but you've got to realize that president trump is coming from the private sector. he has been, you know, running an international company, a national company, hotels, different industries that he's done and you've got to look at the fact that he's coming from the private industry into government and government is a whole new ball game. >> peter, isn't it fair to say that any new president is going to be dealing with an extreme learning curve in those first few days? >> i've been with several. i love the fact that donald trump said that. it's probably the first honest,
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direct and real statement he's made since i've been attentively listening. >> all right, noelle, peter, thank you both very much. >> thank you. >> and that will do it for me this hour. thanks for watching. i'm stephanie gosk. i'll be back at 2:00 p.m. next hour we look at ten of the top moments from donald trump's first 100 days. you might be surprised by number one. pain used to shut me down during pick-up games.
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