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or expand your office and take on whatever comes next. find out how american express cards and services can help prepare you for growth at hi, everybody. i'm thomas roberts at msnbc world headquarters. this is what is happening right now. with the chickens coming home to roost after the passing of the health care bill, there will be a republican lawmaker with a town hall. he called this a great victory. constituents may come out in force today. we will have a preview. and passing the health care on to the senate. why there is more than one issue with the bill on its way to being handled on the other side of congress. election hacking. this time it is france. what was revealed one day before the presidential runoff. we begin with politics at home. president ump is taking a
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workinweekend at one of the golf resorts in new jersey. fresoff the healthy jobs report. here is part of his weekly address. >> we want to turn our country into a jobs machine. a jobs magnet. something that works again. we want america to be the best place in the world to hire, grow, invest and start a brand new beautiful business. >> the president's comments come on the heels of the reports of the trump campaign ties to russia. the washington post says the trump transition team warned mike flynn about his c conversations with russian ambassador sergei kislyak telling them they were being recorded by u.s. intelligence officials. a former obama administration official tells msnbc that trump officials asked for a profile on kislyak. nbc learning that the team was
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aware to the ties to russia that it gave them an hour's notice before retaliating against russia for the election interference. i want to bring in kelly o'donnell who comes from branchburg, new jersey. kelly, any response from the white house on the latest allegations? >> reporter: no, i don't expect to get one, thomas. the white house has been saying ongoing investigations and they don't want to weigh in on all of that. we know the senate intelligence committee is ramping up activities. the new reports suggest there was more concern than we were necessarily aware of at the trump transition for the foreign policy part of that looking at flynn's activities and the awareness that the u.s. ambassador from russia in the united states was routinely surveill surveilled. any interactions with him would be picked up by the american intelligence community. that is part of the warning that flynn who did have a
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relationship and phone calls and so forth that even as the former head othe defense intelligence agency, felt they had to warn him. that is the nutshell of the developments. thomas, you and i have seen this has been incremental for months and may still be to come because of the russia issue. and separately, the broader issue of inter feerference in t election. it is a lot to follow and not the only situation where a member of the trump team is now out. that's another story we're reporting this morning. more on russia and other personnel developments for the president. questions about russia. swirling around the trump administration again this morning. the washington post reports former national security adviser michael flynn was warned of the risks of contacts with the russian ambassador to the u.s. weeks before the december phone
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call that led to flynn's resignation. a former obama administration official confirmed to nbc news trump advisers asked to see a cia profile on sergei kislyak amid concern that flynn did not have a full understanding of the russian ambassador. this as nbc news learned that former trump foreign policy adviser carter page has been asked by the senate intelligence committee. to turnover proof of contact was the russians. the senate panel looking into russian interference in the election and whether any trump associates helped the russians leak damaging information about hillary clinton. meantime, forced out by controversy. >> it is tough to run for office. >> mark green. the nominee forearmy secretary withdrew under pressure friday. accused of bias by the lgbtg community for comments. >> you told psychiatrists will
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say it is a disease. >> reporter: they were trying to block green. he is a west point graduate and doctor who treated saddam hussein. in a statement, green said, tragically my life of public service has been miss characterized for political gain. the human rights campaign used hash tags to call the senate. the senate would have the responsibility of confirming green. he also said he believes the attacks made against him were false and in the written statement disappointed by withdrawing and said it was a distraction and wanted the president to have someone in the role as army secretary without the kind of controversy. thomas, you mentioned we're in new jersey. president trump does have a home
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not far from here. sprawling estate. we expect that we will see -- you and i will talk about this frequently. this is where he comes during the summer. although it is rainy and chilly now, expect him to be here. he signed while here at bedminister home, the budget which approved funding for the government. keeps everything running for the fiscal year. included was additional funding for security to cover the trump family and money for the secret service and money for palm beach, florida and new york city which incurred a lot of costs with the president's travel or the unique situation of the trump home. the tower for the first lady. being a target itself and needing to be protected at a high level. some additional funding for that signed into law yesterday. >> kelly, the figure on that for the security figure?
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>> reporter: $120 million. in addition to what was in the budget. >> thank you, kelly in branchburg, new jersey. no legislative session for congress next week. many in home districts. tom reid represents the district in new york. he will hold a town hall this morning. beth, this congress member held a lot of these. what do you think constituents will call it and have you seen people start to show up? >> reporter: thomas, good morning. people starting to show up now. the town hall starts at 9:00 in do dunkirk, new york. it is about 40 degrees this morning.
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we actually came up with congress member reid in february. he is a congress member, rare right now, continuing to hold town hall meetings. meeting with constituents after a lot of blow back from the support for trump and health care plan. he put out a statement to the effect where he said the ahca holds protections for people with pre-existing conditions and medicaid. the bill will provide much-needed property tax relief for new yorkers. he is selling it as a big win in new york. a very conservative think tank in new york says this will cost new york alone $7 billion from treasury. we think the people here today will have a lot to say to congress member reed. they came in huge numbers in february. it was colder then than today. he was battered with questions
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on health care and russia. lots of things. he went around all over the district. met with lots of angry constituents that day. we expect him to do the same today. thomas, he has reaped rewards of doing this. he raised $585,000 in the first quarter of the year. that is unheard of for folks in this part of rural new york. he out raised his colleagues in the state. there is a good silver lining for him on this. >> they own it now. republicans do. we will see how it goes in dunkirk. beth in dunkirk, new york. joining me now is the washington bureau chief. is it too early to tell whether this was political suicide for republican lawmakers as we heard democrats chanting hey, hey,
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good-bye. after trying to celebrate the vote passage? >> that is the reaction we anticipated democrats would have. i think really we're going to see the fallout from this going into the coming week where you have republicans over this weekend hosting town halls and returning to districts and hearing from the constituents about the bill will do and how it will effect them. i think you see a number of constituents pressing lawmakers. particularly those who were vocally supportive of the legislationment asking them does this mean i'll lose my health insurance coverage or see a temporary increase in premiums. how is this going to impact medicaid and medicare in the state. those are questions they will face and it is tough in the town halls. new jersey congress member is heading home next week. he is behind the macarthur amenent. he will face a tough town hall. >> we know, mostlly is the more
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compassionate. what changes will we see in the senate to the house version? >> it sounds like we will see quite a bit of change. mitch mcconnell put together a separate working group in the senate. working on putting together legislation they can take up on the floor. sounds like they will not take up the bill. this is not necessarily what the house passed. that is interesting given the arcane rules by the senate uses. they have to pass with majority vote. you have to abide by certain rules. senate package will be closely tailored. it is unclear how the two will match up. what is interesting if the senate is able to pass the package, we might see good old fashion legislating and a conference committee where the house and senate reconcile two
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bills together. boys and girls, get ready. i'm just a bill on capitol hill. this is going back. brush up on your history. we could see real legislation. >> saturday morning cartoons we all watched at this time when we were kids many moons ago. gabby, let's talk about the senators you are watching as they come up with the plan with the difference of having access and being insured under this. >> it seems like there is a group of about four moderate republican senators who said they intend to completely overhaul the legislation that was passed in the house. that includes shelly morcapito and susan collins. people who are uncomfortable with the house bill and are expected to change the things. you have rand paul and mike lee
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and ted cruz who expressed concerns about the leglati and it might not go far enough to give states flexibility on care and costs and medicaid. so i think there's really going to be a similar battle that unfolds in the senate as we saw in the house. it will be an arduous process and one that senators said they expect to take weeks if not months. >> so molly, does this open up room for democrats to gain a lead on the senate side of things down the line? we know what this did to washington, d.c. in 2010 under president obama. >> that's true. you know what? one comparison if we're talking about futures of the politicians come 2018, one comparison that democrats and republicans are making is if the senate cannot pass a measure, it will be similar to 2009 when the house passed that carbon tax bill. the climate change bill. we saw the town hall meetings
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spring up all over the summer. the senate never took it. that was the beginning of the idea that the president, then president obama, was forcing members of the party to take a vote. the first time i heard the statement walk the plank is when they tried to get nancy pelosi to vote on the carbon tax bill. that cost them majority in the house. it did not affect the senate as much. >> the shoe on the other foot sdplch. >> molly, you have me hankering for a hunk of cheese. are they lying when they say the deductibles will go down under the new health care bill. what they say after this. ♪♪
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there will be access for everyone. >> but not insurance. access and insurance are different. >> well, coverage actual care and coverage is different. there are plenty of times i saw people who had coverage and not getting care. >> there was republican congress member michael burgess with chris hayes last night. he and congress is on recess this week as the cbo scores the plan. we have john yarmuth of kentucky. sir, good morning to you. what are you hri from folks in kentucky? you had successfully run in your state. what does this look like for the folks using it there?
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>> we have 440,000 people covered by expanded medicaid alone. all of them would be in jeopardy because the bill that the republicans passed through the house cuts medicaid funding by 20%. the only way to deal is cut people off the rolls completely or reducing the benefits they get. a lot of people in the commonwealth of kentucky will be jeopardized by that provision alone. you talk about the additional implementation of things like the high risk pool. one estimate from the keyser foundation in kentucky, if you are a breast cancer survivor, your premiums would go up by $25,000 a year. when my friend mike burgess says they have access, you don't have access if your premiums go up $25,000 a year. >> sir, take a listen so everybody knows the context of what the president said on thursday in the rose garden after the bill passed.
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>> this is a great plan. i actually think it will get even better. this is, make no mistake, this is a repeal and replace of obamacare. make no mistake about it. make no mistake. and i think most importantly, yes, premiums will be coming down. yes, deductibles will be coming down. more importantly, it is a great plan. >> the house wrote to replace the aca. that means the gop has to answer for every problem with the law. the increases this summer. more insurers leaving the markets in regions where no one is willing to sell coverage at all. do you agree with that? the republicans now own it and as a democrat who has been blamed for every problem with obamacare, are you happy about it? >> well, they deserve to be held accountable. a lot of the problems that have occurred with the individual
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insurance market are because they repealed portions of the affordable care act through appropriations process that made it very, very unsustnable for insurance companies to participate. they do own all of the problems with the health care system right now. if they worked with us to try to correct some of those, replacing or retaining the risk corridor, the payments i'm talking about and giving certainty to the insurance companies, we would not have the problems. they deserve to be held accountable for the problems right now. >> have you heard from the senate colleagues, friends about what they feel their job is now and is it true that the estimation could be a month before the senate votes on their version of the bill of what the house passed. >> i bet every dime i'm going to win today at the kentucky derby that they don't vote on anything
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until next year. mitch mcconnell is too smart to put senators on record about health care with an election coming up. they will make sure whatever they do doesn't go into effect until 2019 past the election. so nobody feels the pain what they're causing. i would be stunned if they do anything this year. >> congress member, i mentioned before and journalist panel from the singing of democrats. were you part of the group? >> no. first of all, i can't sing. i was not seeinging or waving. >> i don't think if i will get signed for a contract. they were in chorus together. are you disappointed that certain members of the democratic party exhibited that behavior? >> well, yeah. i don't think it was appropriate. i don't mind the waving. the singing was out of decorum
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for the body. you know, obviously this is a very emotional debate that we all been involved in. my primary concern is it is not a lead pipe cinch we will take the house back. this is a significant help to do that. we have a lot of work to do over the next year and a half to recruit candidates and raise money and for all of us to get out and bring the message to the american people. we still have great deal of challenge to deal with many of the districts and white male americans who we lost over the years. we need to get back and show them we understand what their lives are about and challenges are and we want to respond to them. >> your gop colleagues have the wind at their back is tax cut talk happening? is that the next thing that will come down the line? >> well, i think the first thing
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we're going to deal with is the budget for 2018. that's a real big fight and that's going to determine to a certain extent the tax debate. tax reform will be very, very difficult. i don't hear a lot from constituents about tack x refor. i hear from business people who are directly affected than individua individuals. i think the budget fight and fight over the debt ceiling. those are the major things on our plate before tax reform. >> all right. the biggest thing on your plate now is going to the kentucky derby or betting on the right horse. first jewel of the triple crown. enjoy kentucky derby. the late night hosts are taking comedic aim at the president. jokes by the numbers. you don't want to miss this next. liberty mutual stood with me
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headquarters in new york. new today, hackers targeting the french election. a day after a rumor of fake news. emmanuel macron says this is similar to the scene in the elections for 2016. nbc's matt bradley has more on this for us. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, thomas. this really up ended so much about the election in france. this was released on fortune last night. it came before a two-day media blackout which is when politicians and media can't talk about politics and they can't defend from allegations. today, the presidential race that's rattled france rattled again late last night. news of a last-minute hacking attack. data and thousands of e-mails and documents stolen a few weeks
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ago from the campaign of emmanuel macron. this as the country enters the pre-election two day media blackout. macron's campaign says it is a coordinated piracy. no one has claimed responsibility, but suspicion focused on russia. a japanese cyber security firm said russians hacked macron's campaign. moscow denied that charge. >> we are 100% sure this team is focusing on the russian government. >> reporter: the hacked e-mails are trivial. weather and restaurant sevehe s reservations. the campaign is looking a lot like america's. marine le pen is anti-immigration and wants out of the eu and admirer of
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vladimir putin and donald trump. trump has returned the favor. on thursday, barack obama endorsed emmanuel macron. >> he appeals to people's hopes and not their fears. >> reporter: just this morning, we heard from french prosecutors they arrested a former soldier in france. accused of pledging allegiance to isis. another thremor shaking up the election at the 11th hour. >> matt, because there is security around hillary clinton's camp and the dnc against hacking and we are witnessing the same with macron and the victim of this. did they talk about extra steps they took for security to prevent this from happening? >> reporter: the macron campaign said e-mails and systems were air tight. they knew that because, of
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course, the german campaign of angela merkel accused an unknown entity of hacking of systems of her people. this is not isolated in the united states or france. this is something happening all over europe and the japanese cyber security firm listed entities throughout europe, including the eastern orthodox church and groups which were hacked by the fancy bear group connected with the russian vernment. >> it makes everybody think again. matt bradley reporting from paris. thank you. we head back to washington for details on the senate and its operation to try to tackle the president's health care plan. now the house passed that version of the bill, there will be a lot of questions that need to be answered. what counts as a pre-existing condition? we have tom price who tried to explain that yesterday on cnbc. take a look. >> rape and domestic violence could be considered pre-existing
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conditions under the bill. >> if it is the case, it is the case right now. the protections in the legislation make it believe people with pre-existing conditions will be able to gain better coverage than able to gain. >> i want to bring in the doctors. dr. torre and dr. natalie azar. i know you have been studying up on the changes and what they could mean for access and what it means to be insured. first the health secretary statement that rape and domestic violence are considered pre-existing conditions under the aca. is that true? >> look, thomas, the list of things that are considered pre-existing conditions includes transgender individuals. i'm not aware that rape victims is listed as a pre-existing condition. let's be clear about the fact
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that women who have been subjected to sexual assault can suffer a variety of issues. >> trauma thereafter. >> physical and psychological. >> the idea that they need to be protected and covered is certainly a fundamental right of these women. >> does that get us to mental health issues and where they will be covered going forward? >> i think it is clear from the expert analysis that people win are healthy and young and wealthy and people who stand to lose, older, sick and poor. we focused as we should on the $8 billion f pre-existing conditions. we had a shift of societal belief the ability to get medical care is not predicated on existing medical conditions. what is lost in the discussion the last couple of days are all the other things that comprise the benefits. including mental health coverage. including coverage for substance abuse disorders.
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especially in light of the opioid epidemic. please, i want to reinforce not to forget the impact on women's health and children funded by medicaid. >> dr. john, the other statement by the secretary, people will get better care. is that accurate? >> they will get access. can they afford that access? that is the crux of the situation. if premiums go up and coverage does down, meaning they cap what they pay for, they have access, but it doesn't do much. we are back to what national al i saw where patients had no insurance or insurance capped out. they had to decide to pay for medicine or test or food for their children. that is not a decision that parents have to make. right now, a lot of it is pre-existing conditions we're talking about. centers for medicaid and medicare service says one of two
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people in america have pre-existing conditions. 86% between 55 and 64. i have been telling people, a lot of things people don't understand is all of us are just one illness or accident away from a pre-existing conditions. we are right back in the bucket. >> for most american families. literally a banana peel slip away from a medical emergency you don't have proper savings or find out you are not covered. the distinction is access and being properly insured. all of us can have access. >> anybody can walk into the emergency room. i think there's a major distant here from who will fund. is the government going to fund or healthy individuals going to go into the pool? part of the conversation is you know, making it more enticing for healthy individuals sign up. you cannot have government
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payments going down and the uninsured going up. that is not a calculation that will work out in favor. >> for patients that will try to go see a typical doctor and do the normal visits. how does that change? >> this is what worries me. if i can walk you through a patient with arthritis. as we have seen over the years, we recommend a therapy that can cost thousands of dollars. we recommend rehab. they require radiographs with routine visits for progress. we do labs to see how well the medication is doing. every turn i get concerned about the benefits and ability for states to waive those and care is incomplete. we talk about access, but can you afford. the actual health plan that you have does it adequately cover
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your illness and i think -- >> what happens is before 2010 in the er. we see the patients that cannot be taken care of because they don't have coverage. they come in with joint erosions or life long pain that could have been taken care of early on. they did not have the ability to pay for it. they come to me for the emergency care and they are at a point where there is nothing we can do at that point. unfortunately, preventative care is important. this doesn't necessarily allow for that. >> all right. dr. natalie and dr. john. thank you. we will have more to talk about as this moves to the senate for what many described as they are going back to scratch on this. to peel apart what the house has done and come up with their version. thank you. more to come. facing a murder charge for shooting a teenager dead. why a texas police officer who turned himself in. and i'll ask former republica congress member if he would have
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♪ welcome back. a former police officer in dallas has turned himself in to authorities on the charges of first degree murder. roy oliver facing the charges after shooting a 15-year-old boy. maya rodriguez has more. >> reporter: hours after the arrest warrant, police officer roy oliver was booked into the dallas area jail for the murder of 15-year-old jordan edwards. >> the news the man responsible for the son's death was properly charged with murder is a big deal to the family. >> reporter: according to the arrest warrant, it started saturday night when police responded to a call of a house party noise. oliver responded. at home, the police body cameras
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captured what soupnded like gunfire. they were seen backing up and slowly driving away. oliver fired his rifle into the car several times. jordan edwards was in the front passenger seat. the freshman honor student and football player died from a gunshot wound to the head. >> i loved that kid. >> reporter: the police departnt says the car edwards was in moved in a threatening manner to the officers. body cam footage showed it was not true. the police chief apologized for the misinformation and the department fired oliver. >> this is a tragedy. we know the edwards family is grieving. we're in a lot of pain. >> reporter: oliver's attorney would not comment on the officer's arrest. the family of jordan edwards filed a wrongful death lawsuit. >> the charges for murder are great, but they hope to see a
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conviction. >> reporter: a former police officer now finding himself on the other side of the law. as the family prepares to bury their son later today. maya rodriguez, nbc news. >> royal v oliver is out of jai $300,000 bond. not one, but two questions about the passing of the health care bill. we will talk about both of those right after this. try new flonase sensist instead of allergy pills. it's more complete allergy relief in a gentle mist you may not even notice. using unique mistpro technology, new flonase sensimist delivers a gentle mist to help block six key inflammatory substances that cause your symptoms. most allergy pills only block one. and six is greater than one. break through your allergies. new flonase sensimist with tampax pearl.
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. medicaid takes $830 billion in medicaid funding for grandma who is in a nursing home with alzheimer's or parkinson's, for people who need opioid treatment, for the disabled, for poor chilen, takes that money and gives it as a tax break to the wealthiest 1% on our country. dead on arrival in the united states senate. >> there we have senator ed markey on what lies ahead about
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the health care bill. joining me now is msnbc political analyst rick tyler and marjory clifton, ceo of clifton consulting. good morning to you both. >> morning. >> having worked with senator ted cruz who was certainly a rival to president obama and the aca, do you think ed markey is right, this is doa for the senate? >> the senate will start with an absolutely different bill. they'll use it as a vehicle and i think take their time with it. i think it will go for months. what we had the white house looked like a championship celebration, but actually ended up celebrating picking up the fumble. >> i want to talk about you and the optics of that. marjory, let me begin with ed markey and talking about the 1% in this country getting a big tax break. these are folks that make tens of millions annually. do you suspect that's going to be the biggest thing that happens from the senate perspective, that those folks are not going to receive some kind of tax break for not giving in to health care?
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>> well, you've got to pay for covering, for example, medicaid expansion. you've got to cover the pre-existing condition clause. the way that was covered before had to do with taxes, but also had to do with taxes on insurance company, medical device companies and some of the hospitals. removing all that, how do we cover and even out the marketplace which is what the affordable care act strove to do, to make sure everybody was insured and make sure the poorest and the sickest had some kind of balance in their coverage. what we're doing is bringing us back to pre affordable care act. yes, that will result in taxes going back into the pockets of companies and people that would benefit from this new bill. i think it's where does the money come from? that's what the senate has to solve from. they can't go back to their districts and defendaking moneaway from the elderly, the si and the poor. that's just not a good message. >> rick, we know that message
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didn't work out so well after the aca was passed and democrats had the power based on the 2008 election and the tea party rose up. clean sweep for 2010 and the power shifting the dynamic in d.c. republicans are on the defense now about this, they basically get to own this. there was basically two dozen districts carried by clinton. is that vulnerable territory for the republicans and what it means for the constituents they have to face in light of this? >> it absolutely is. this is a great study in the power of politics. the republicans ran on repealing obamacare for effectively three cycles and did so remarkably effectively, picking up both the house and the senate majority, albeit slim. now the roles are reversed. what's been disturbing is both parties share what lincoln called the base alloy of hypocrisy. that means we know now republicans didn't have a plan to replace obamacare.
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but we also no obamacare was passed without any republican support. it didn't have a lot of public support. that's why the republicans gained so many seats in the house and the senate. now it's completely reversed. what obamacare did is offer a benefit in the form of mostly medicaid, that is health care to the poor. the other part is the exchanges where you don't get your insurance from an employer, you get it on your own in the individual market. a lot of people saw their rates skyrocket and also saw their deductibles go up. on the other hand, a lot of people who couldn't afford insurance got insurance. now it appears that the republicans are in a position to take both medicaid and affordable insurance away. that's going to be a very difficult and probably losing position for them. >> the pendulum really has swung around, marjormarjory. is there an equal to that right now, that progressives can take
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advantage of? >> it's interesting because the reconciliation process which a lot of people have been up in arms about is how theaaffordable care act got passed. if they have three dissenting votes, they won't be able to pass it. one of the they're struggling with, once you pass a bill like this that provides benefits to people, it's very hard to take it away. like social security, a lot of other systems that have been deba debated. the merits of the affordable care act, there needs to be improvements to it. a lot of people have said that. baem has said that. completely taking it away, affordable care act had higher ratings than it ever had seen when republicans started talking about removing it. the replace is the bear. i think they tried to put this house bill together in very short order, and without the cbo assessment. the cbo assessment was
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absolutely fundamental to the affordable care act. it's what they spent months going round and round about. what's the economic impact? how many people lose insurance? that's where on the senate side it will be a critical part of this debate and how the conversation plays out. >> democrats and even president obama agreed with the fact that the living entity of obamacare needed reform, needed modern updates as you tick along. this is something entirely different. what we see, as we show the video of the rose garden at the white house, rick, it's pretty glaring. white, middle aged gentlemen, a few ladies among the crowd. but the optics here, not overly diver diverse. are you surprised z and disappointed about that for the gop? or is it just what it is, this is what the gop represents?
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>> i'm more focused as they were celebrating recovering a fumble. aca obamacare is still the law of the land, and unless it passes the senate and gets to the president's desk, it will remain the law of the land. in fact, there is no replace. let's be clear about that. the republicans have not been honest about that, there's not been a repeal of obamacare nor will there be a repeal of obamacare. what they're trying to do is amend it. what they're trying to do is amend something that i believe was bad with something that i believe is going to make it worse. i'm conservative, and i believe there are free market solutions to healtcare. let's have an honest debate about it. let's stop with one side saying, for the power of politics, the insurance companies are going to be the bad guys if all this because they do it for a profit. you say, well, ceos make decisions for companies for profit. politicians make decisions for power and that is true. really both sides is pretty bad. let's at least have an honest
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conversation about what -- >> as we speak about the power dynamic before i have to go, the hill has the headline, no women among senators working on obamacare repeal bill. how does that happen? >> i can tell you my household is full of women. women have much more experience with health care than men do typically, because a lot of men go to the doctor when they absolutely have to. women routinely go to the doctor, particularly with child care. they're much for familiar with going to the doctor. the idea you leave women out of discussions about how it affects women and health care is absurd. >> i think that is why the optics of the white men gathered around making decisions on all the legislation that is happening is problematic. the reason we want diversity in congress and we want it at the table is it represents better all the populations being spoken for. that's what our government was designed to doment it's not just women, but also people of color.
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it's socioeconomic diversity. we need that because it impacts people differently. >> i got to run, rick, i'm so sorry. i think we can all agree that -- beyond the political impact of the trumpcare bill are the real world consequences for many families. coming up, i'll speak with a former administrator from the department of health and human services about the potential reality of the trumpcare law. st st about a medication... ...this is humira. this is humira helping to relieve my pain... ...and protect my joints from further damage. humira has been clinically studied for over 18 years. humira works by targeting and helping to... ...block a specific source... ...of inflammation that contributes to ra symptoms. it's proven to help relieve pain and... ...stop further joint damage in many adults. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis.
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