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♪ i'm dr. kelsey mcneely and some day you might be calling me an energy farmer. ♪ energy lives here. hi, everybody, good to have you with me. i'm thomas roberts in new york and here's what's happening this hour. most polls beginning to close in france in the historic election there and it's been a contentious presidential election. we have the centrist candidate macron facing marine le pen. polls remain open, nbc's matt bradley is in paris. let's talk about the turnout and the influence of friday's election hack, as well as the bad weather today, especially in paris. >> reporter: well, the weather isn't all that bad, thomas, as you can see, it's not raining.
it's been raining all weekend, but now it's not so bad and i've got some nice views here. but the fact is that the turnout here, this entire race has been dogged by a lot of suspicions that the turnout would be very low because of voter dissatisfaction with all of the candidates. it was the same thing two weeks ago during the initial runoff election that featured 11 candidates. a lot of people said even with this massive menu of 11 candidates the voters were still so discouraged they wouldn't turn out, but they did. and the numbers that we did so far today have shown voters have been turning out really only slightly less than they have in the past. so what you used to be able to see would be a blank vote, voters would go to the polling station and submit basically a ruined ballot or nothing at all in their ballot, and here in france legally they are obligated to count those and publish the amount of nonfilled out ballots, but now we're seeing probably a lot of people
have been participating in this election and that's because, as you mention, this is such a critical vote. we're seeing two different cad dats coming at the role of france and the world from two just diametrically opposite spectrums. marine le pen, the one everybody says is the donald trump of france, she wants to actually re-evaluate or even withdraw france from the european union or the nato defense treaty. and she's up against emanuel macron. he's the centrist candidate and as you mentioned, something of a centrist, kind of a radical centrist by the standards of french politics, and that means he's not really a centrist in the sense that he's down the middle in terms of both social and economic issues, he's actually more right on economic issues. he wants to tighten some of the -- actually help businesses here loosen some of the restrictions on businesses that he says are slowing down the french economy, but on the left side, on the social side, he
wants to continue with france's major role in the european union. but this is a major vote and we're going to hear the results in about an hour. they are going to come out almost immediately after the polls close. thomas? >> matt, we're looking just to your side in the top tier box on the right hand side of the screen, those are folks in northern france doing that ballot count by hand you describe in the lower box. images from earlier today on both those candidates voting with family and significant others around, but it is fascinating to see this hand count go on and, again, as you're saying within the hour we should quickly have the results of this. macron was leading by about 20 points, correct? >> reporter: that's right. we had macron, the latest polls that came out before this media blackout that happened on friday night, macron was leading by about 60/40, and that we can say, why would you even believe the polls after the election
last year and after brexit in britain, the polls don't seem to be that reliable, but here in france they are. they called the last election two weeks ago decisively. they got the numbers almost exactly right. so we can anticipate that they might get them almost exactly right this time. and the little murmurs that we're hearing from journalists and election officials saying it's probably going to come out that way. 60% for macron and about 40% for marine le pen. it would kind of cause marine le pen and her supporters to re-evaluate a bit, especially in light of this hacking that you described. that hasn't really swayed the election, and i don't think it will in the coming hours. >> well, for either candidate that wins, obviously, i need to work on my french accent to be able to cover this, because nbc's matt bradley got it locked down. we'll know coming up in the next hour or so.
thank you, sir. we turn to politics back in the u.s. with the white house feeling confident the republicans will maintain a majority in congress after the midterm election. this is despite democrats predicting political doom in light of the health care bill that passed the house gop. here's white house chief of staff reince priebus and his prediction. >> they are going to reward the republicans that stood up and said we're not going to see the obamacare system, which is failing and collapsing, continue any longer. we're going to do something better and we're going to do our job as legislators to get this thing done. i think that the republican party will be rewarded. >> new today, republican governor john kasich, who is one of the most vocal opponents of th bill, is pushing back o some of its controversial provisions. the business of those low-risk pools, they are not funded. >> not enough, you're saying? >> $8 billion is not enough to fund. it's ridiculous. and the fact is, states are not going to opt for that. we can do with less resources,
but you can't do it overnight, and you can't give people a three or $4,000 health insurance policy. you know where they are going to be? living in the emergency rooms again. >> all this as former acting attorney general sally yates is prepping to testify in front of a panel investigating russian interference. testimony comes tomorrow. and we have new reaction today from former secretary of state condoleezza rice on president vladimir putin. >> appalled, but if you ask me about the psychology of it, yes, i am a russianist, and yes, i know vladimir putin, and that's why i say don't give him the satisfaction of thinking that he undermined our confidence in our own elections. he's an eye for an eye kind of guy. we called his elections fraudulent in 2012, and they were, and so now he's going to make ours fraudulent. >> well, on capitol hill we have also new reaction of the vote that pushed president trump's health care plan through that house. we see the official vote tally
from last week. in branchburg, new jersey, kelly o'donnell has been reporting today on donald trump who is staying there at one of his golf resorts. kelly, the word from the white house today, they feel like they've really made inward traction on a campaign promise, but now the onus is on the senate. >> turning the pressure now to the senate, thomas, that's right. the president wants senators to act then they found that the first phase of getting it through the house was more challenging than they had expected. they had to tack an adjust and change the bill to a degree to bring along some of the support on the house, so they gained some experience from that. and today we've got white house officials who are speaking on the sunday shows sort of moving it to the next phase, which is the senate. among them, mick mulvaney, who is trying to say that for those who are looking at a choice between the health care law obamacare in its best form and what exists today and what republicans are looking at, as
options for what could be a new and revised health care plan, mulvaney is arguing that it is wistful thinking to be talking about obamacare in its earliest most optimistic phase and that people need to recognize where it is now and that there have been some areas where it is not working, and that he thinks has affected the debate. here's the management, the director of the office of management and budget, trying to explain that sort of mental approach to assessing these options and the choices that the senate now faces. >> so much of the dialogue today is sort of compared to this ideal of what people thought obamacare was going to be and what they wanted so desperately to be. the real thing to measure it against is what obamacare really is. face it, people are losing coverage today in iowa, again, for example, under obamacare. people have 100% increases today in arizona under obamacare. that's the measure. not against the ideal of what they thought or wantedbamacare
to be. >> and some democrats say it would be a more effective strategy to negotiate and to perhaps win over some senate democratic support if they did not talk about it in terms of getting rid of what people have come to know as obamacare, but simply working to fix it. republicans, though, made a promise to their voters that they would repeal and replace, and, of course, that term has sort of been surpassed by the changes they are now making and is it a direct repeal and replace, that's debatable, but democrats say attacking the law is not helpful to win support on their side on areas they agree there needs to be support to get insurers into markets where they aren't now, to deal with the cost of premiums going up and that type of thing. the white house team and administration is trying to sort of position where we go next in this debate. thomas? >> kelly o'donnell reporting in branchburg, new jersey. thanks so much. we know president trump is taking his deal making skills
overseas. later this month he's going to visit saudi arabia, israel, and the vatican. joining me is congresswoman karen bass, a member of the house foreign affairs committee. congresswoman, it's great to have you with me. we have a lot to talk about when it comes to health care, but i want to start with this, the president is saying he is meeting with leaders of majority muslim countries on his first trip in riad. do you think that is going to help with any of the damage that was baked in from trying to pull off a muslim ban that has been deemed unconstitutional? >> well, i absolutely don't think it will be. as a matter of fact, i think it would be rather offensive. it's not just the fact he continues to pursue the muslim ban, but it's the very flippant way in which he talks about middle east policy. remember, he said i don't even understand why we can't come to a deal. everything is a deal for him and he's shown in his first 100-plus days how good he is at making deals, so my concern is going over to the middle east, i think
it could wind up being quite an embarrassment. >> well, he has made comments about middle east peace shouldn't be that hard to do, or it's not that hard to do. >> just like health care. >> he's going to try, though, as presidents before have always gone in to try to help with this and settle differences between israel and the palestinians, as well as the saudis hoping the president will help put them back on track. and make a deal back in iran. do you think that these are too many pie in the sky ideas for them to tackle all at once? >> again, i think it's a very superficial approach. you do have to look at the fact that we have a secretary of state who essentially doesn't have any assistant secretaries under him. this is the case with many of the agencies, many of his cabinet officers. don't really have an infrastructure below them and i think that could be one reason why he has a very superficial approach to very complicated international issues. >> but jared kushner is the one
taking care -- >> case in point. >> not so much rex tillerson. >> case in point, his son-in-law, who has a background in what? >> business, real estate. >> not middle east policy, as complicated as it is, how many presidents have attempted to solve that problem? >> one thing that i do want to get on record with you about, health care. we know that the issue of the gop passing this bill in the senate is now taking up the manifold of this. no women are involved on the senate side, the working committee for this. how do you think that's going to go over and how do republicans sell this if they don't have the input of the other 50-plus percent gender included of our american population? >> well, i mean sadly i have to say i wasn't surprised. we see this happening on the house side all the time. i sit on the judiciary committee.
we now have one woman on the committee, but before that, you know, i would sit and spend hours listening to the men on the committee talk about women's health issues in judiciary, so i'm not surprised by it. but i really do think that we need to pay close attention to what the republicans are saying about trumpcare, because when they talk about pre-existing conditions being covered, it is just simply not true. unfortunately, there's a lot of this new law that they are just lying about and i am hopeful that the senate will put it to rest and kill it. there's a lot that can be improved with the affordable care act, and we need to change from repeal and replace to repair and improve. there's a lot of improvement that can be done, and i'm hoping that the senate will look at it from that perspective. >> when it comes to sally yates' testimony tomorrow with the senate intelligence committee, we were talking earlier with our affiliate about explosive testimony.
are you hearing or have heard kind of an indicator of what people can prepare for tomorrow out of that testimony? >> well, yes. and i'm certainly hoping that she will come and explain the real reason why she was fired. one of the things that i think might happen is to understand when the trump administration was warned about flynn. and there's a lot of evidence there that i believe she will talk about that they had had discussions. they knew he was a problem, and the trump administration went forward with him anyway. now remember they said the reason why they fired him was because he lied, but i really question whether that was the case at all. >> congresswoman, good to have you with me, member of the house foreign relations committee, congresswoman from california, thank you, nice to see you. it is a day of freedom and celebration happening now. coming up, how dozens of those kidnapped nigerian school girls, remember this story from 2014? an update on 82 being released. (vo) my name is bryan.
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welcome back, everybody, we have breaking news out of chicago. a deadly crash between a chicago transit authority bus and a car. four people have died and several others have been injured. authorities are trying to sort out just who was in the car and who was in the bus, but as you can see, it is a devastating scene there. again, this bus crash with a vehicle in chicago killing at least four people, with several others injured. we'll keep you posted. tom price is fighting back criticism over the lack of diversity of the group which crafted the house health care bill. here's what he told my colleague andrea mitchell on "meet the press" this morning. >> congresswoman diane black, the chair of the budget committee, i was standing next to her, the administrator of the
cms, i was standing next to her. >> out of a group of dozens and dozens of people you can cite two or three women? >> these are prominent individuals who are leading, who are leading in this area of health care. >> joining me now is msnbc contributor and national reporter for "new york times." also with me erin mcpike, chief white house correspondent for "independent journal." great to have you with me. let's start with you, the senate health care working group is even less diverse, 13 men, no women involved. do you think that's going to change with this type of scrutiny? >> it's hard to say whether or not it's going to change, but i think the republican party understands that this is now an age where they are under a microscope. they are changing, obviously, health care that's touching so many people's lives, including 50% of the population, which is women, and also they have capable women senators to do that. there are leaders in the senate who are capable of making those
decisions and i think some of the women who are, i guess, not being put on that committee have been talking about whether or not planned parenthood should be funded. of course, they are still pro choice, pro rights, but the idea is they are cutting out some really brilliant minds in their own party and that makes their party look bad. >> we know, erin, that trump and the history books will acknowledge the scotus pick and nomination of gorsuch for president trump, but everybody knows behind the scenes this was really mitch mcconnell's doing. how much do you think this is going to be a test of mitch mcconnell getting this bill and what he can produce out of this senate? >> thomas, i think you hit the nail on the head. this is something that will really be a huge deal for mitch mcconnell for the next several months, and look, mitch mcconnell is actually seen as a master legislator and can really push things through. the thing is, the bill that he ultimately pushes through the senate won't look anything like
what the house bill that was just passed will look like, so, you know, whether or not mitch mcconnell gets a decent victory, what we ultimately see is going to have to go back to the house and then whatever mitch mcconnell gets, will the house freedom caucus then sign off on that? there are many more steps to this process and the longer this goes on, the worse politically it will be, because we're going to see a number of town halls come up this next week and republican lawmakers are going to hear an earful from their constituents and we see the obamacare numbers polling starting to go up. american people like obamacare more than they did a year ago. >> they were happy with the devil they know than with the devil that they don't and we know president trump's numbers are less than where obamacare is right now in popularity. with so much, i guess, heat on the republican party for this and also on president trump with
trumpcare, many of those on the gop are going to be held accountable for this without a proper cbo sco andany fear it could be worse than what ce out on that failed piece of legislation that ner made it to the floor before. how much is that an issue come 2018? >> it's hard to say, because i think a lot of the voters i talk to, they want to see something different. especially the people who voted for donald trump. and i would say a lot of the people who put republicans in the house. republican, democrats lost both the senate and the house and i think a lot of it had to do with health care. the idea that a lot of these people got into office because they were campaigning on the fact they wanted to repeal and replace obamacare, so in 2018 are people going to understand that their health care already changed? i think it may take until 2020, 2021 when people see their health care costs are going up, women start realizing maternity care is no longer essential that you have to cover, that pre-existing conditions might then become more expensive to cover, so it's going to be hard for people to understand that in
some ways until in some ways they've already voted and there are new people in office saying anything is better than obamacare. a lot of the republicans that i've talked to, they feel responsible to do something about health care. while even the numbers might say people are feeling better about the affordable care act now, a lot of it might be because people are scared, maybe that's because now it's a reality, people are realizing they are going to be losing things they liked about obamacare, but essentially republicans owe their arguments about health care to their seats. >> can i jump in on that for just a second? i think this is the challenge that democrats will have, and that is that democrats are really interested in campaigning against donald trump, and against what the republicans are going with this vote here, but democrats probably have to produce some kind of package of fixes that they can go forward and campaign on, because there are structural problems with obamacare that obviously need to
be fixed. even president obama would say that. they, too, will have problems with the polls. >> erin, isn't the bigger issue here, obviously, yes, things will need to be fixed with this. but how do you fix issues with no money? and all the trumpcare bill is really more of kind of precursor to more tax cuts to come for fat cats in the country. >> that is a good question, thomas, and that is the reason that i'm a reporter and not a legislator. >> i should add when you ask that question you think -- i'm sure when you've talked to democrats, you're also hearing they are still championing this idea of single payer health care because they are thinking about bernie sanders, really moving their party further to the left, so they are not talking about this idea we have our own fixes to obamacare and i find that to be remarkable, when the first health care bill didn't pass, i got calls from all these liberal activists saying now it's time
to pass single payer health care. i was like really, that's what you're thinking about as we know obamacare needs fixes? yeah, we want to push for even more liberal version of health care. >> and we are probably not going to be getting that. we're going to be getting a more liberal version of health care as much as a congresswoman or senator erin mcpike, because she's not interested in running and we don't have people on the hill interested in making a more liberal version, you know, what obamacare is and, yes, republicans now own at least the gop house side what trumpcare is. erin mcpike, great to see you, yamiche, great to see you also. you remember this story, kidnapped three years ago, boko haram is the group that did it. why are they letting them go? we have some of the first pictures of the release after this.
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is what we're monitoring for you. first, results of france's presidential election. they are expected to come just after the polls close at the top of the hour. the turnout in france has been nearly 7% lower than the previous election of 2012 and pollsters consider centrist candidate macron, the favorite over the far right populist candidate marine le pen. today's runoff occurs with 50,000 security forces guarding polling stations amid a state of emergency. also the other story we've been following out of nigeria with new images of the 82 school girls that were kidnapped by boko haram being reunited with their families. this was three years ago when they were taken. the students were part of hundreds taken by the extremist group. 21 were released last year. kelly ceo ya ya joins us from london. do we know more what triggered this release, especially when there are still more students in captivity? >> well, thomas, we understand
this was a deal months in the making, that there have been negotiations ongoing for several months now, some of the talks held in switzerland. here's the final deal, so to speak. 82 girls freed in return for an undisclosed number of suspected boko haram extremists held by the nigerian government. this afternoon the associated press citing an unnamed government official saying five boko haram commanders were traded for those girls, but nbc news has not been able to confirm that independently. the girls arrived in the capital of nigeria a few hours ago. two of them have physical injuries, wrist injury and an apparent leg injury, one girl on crutches. they met with government officials, including the giai neern president, and are being reunited with family members this afternoon. as of early this morning, there was no list of names, so families had to wait to find out whether or not their loved one was among the group freed today. you'll remember boko haram
kidnapped 276 girls from their school back in 2014. that kidnapping sparking a global outrage and a social media campaign to free them. then first lady michelle obama one of millions who took up their cause. back in october, 21 girls were freed, but today the united nations special envoy for global education, gordon brown, said what's unknown at the moment is how many of the girls are still enslaved, but we must now urge authorities and negotiators not to give up until every single one of them has been safely returned. that statement, again, from gordon brown. as many as 113 girls, thomas, could still be unaccounted for at this point, and a difficult recovery ahead for those girls who have been freed, thomas, the traumas they've been through just unspeakable. >> kelly cobiella reporting for us in london.
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the president showed patience and vigilance and he worked, he and the vice president, they worked the phones, they held personal meetings. he asked people what would get you to yes, is there a way for us, because he's always very open to other people's inputs. he got them to come together because he's a deal maker. >> there we have counselor to the president kellyanne conway explaining how the president pulled off thursday's narrow health care victory. i want to bring in republican strategist, democratic strategist chris kofinis. great to see both of you. do you really buy it? can the president take credit
for this or does it look a little naive or, worse, arrogant? >> well, he is a deal maker and what she said is probably true. he rallied his people around and he got -- he hammered it until he came out. he asked everybody what they wanted, and he made sure that it happened. you know, it's okay that he takes credit for it. it really is okay, because a lot of people are saying that if he did not push, that this would not have gotten through, so it's okay. >> chris, we know that the bill did get through by four votes. there was room for democrats here to intervene and try to block it. obviously, you know, democrats are outnumbered here and the gop under ryan, they really need a win on this. so where does it go from here, especially with the senate side talking about going back too square one? does it ever look like it did before? >> probably not.
it's going to probably change pretty dramatically in the senate, to say the least. part of it because the senate republicans are sensitive to the political consequences of what's coming to bear. here's the part that amazes me in terms of, you know, whether trump deserves credit, i think he deserves absolute credit and every republican deserves credit. they are going to be owning this and it's going to be around them like a bad cloud until the election day. here's the problem with what they did. you didn't change a bill to make it better. they took away coverage. they made it worse. and this is the part they are going to have to explain to their constituents, because those who had health care under obamacare now will not or possibly will not under trumpcare. and once you take something away as vital as health care, that's going to make a voter pretty angry and that's what the republicans are going to have to face in 2018. >> there's really never ever been such a benefit to americans
that has been stripped away in this type of capacity before. we know the health and human services secretary tom price was out earlier today and talking about how they feel, what they believe this bill means, saying that we strongly believe that the medicaid population will be cared for in a better way. do you really think that that can happen based on the fact that they are going to be blood letting financially what medicaid looks like currently? >> thomas, first of all, i've got to tell you, i can't sit back and watch this unravel. this is a humanitarian issue. this is really -- the fact this has been so politicized, the fact this is a right and left issue, it's just absolutely horrible. people, you know, are scared about losing their coverage and in maryland you have premiums up 50%, in iowa you have a system that is absolutely collapsed. i think what has happened is this, you know, when you ask us earlier can trump take credit for the house passing, yes.
now it's got to go to the senate. in the senate, the objective is this, the objective is to get premiums continue down, but it is to get a great policy, you know, people are looking at this, americans together, you know, right and left, are looking for a great policy with premiums that they can actually afford. you've got jimmy kimmel coming on stating how wornt, you know, things are in health care. >> you don't believe that's current legislation passed on the house side that doesn't have a cbo score, you don't believe that's what it's actually doing, do you? >> i think that this -- i think this can be improved. i think what we can do is have a better -- i think the premiums, you have to keep a low premium because this was an argument with obamacare that people could not pay the premiums. if they couldn't pay the premiums, they had the tax penalty. >> thomas? >> it's hard, it's very hard to
do this, what's going to be happening. >> chris, go ahead. >> here's the fundamental problem. you can sit there and pretend and imagine, you know, there is some health care fairy that's going to provide health care coverage to everyone for nothing and it's going to be really affordable and perfect. that is not going to happen and it is not going to happen in a piece of legislation that was not only not scored by the cbo on purpose, that was not even given to legislators early enough so they can read to see what the consequences were of this potential bill on purpose. the reason is because this was all about politics. you know, speaker ryan wanted to win. trump wanted a win. here's the problem, it's the american people who had health care under obamacare that are going to be improved. can the bill be improved? absolutely. this is not about making it better. this is about making it worse.
>> president obama did say before leaving office he would hope people would look at obamacare, making it better, making the tweaks about reform. not a repeal and replace republicans had promised. we have to point out for folks living through what obacare has meant, it's never had republican support. it's always had republican obstacles and attempts and knocks to make it less helpful. with tax cuts going to more wealthy people in our nation because of what trumpcare means, how does that really help the humanitarian crisis of health care?
republicans are nervous because they are facing angry members at town halls. this is the exact point and i'm glad you gave me the opportunity to say this. this is the exact point we need to bring this back to an issue this is not political. this is health care. every day americans and you talked about the scoring and what not, but people think about one thing, simple thing, how much is my premium and can i afford to pay the premium and what does my policy look like. am i getting great, great health care, am i getting good coverage? i think that's what people really care about and it's really sad that people, politicians, have to pay a price depending on what they do and which side of the aisle they sit on. this is gambling with our health care. >> yeah, the issue with this is that, you know, all of us, you know, are one accident or one emergency away from serious
issues. and -- >> right. >> whether it's a family member, loved one, a spouse, this can affect any of us at any time and we all want to feel confident and safe. we've got to remember that. thank you so much. great to see you. chris, as always, both of you. thank you. a crack down on sanctuary cities that might put police in jail. how's that make sense? but it's true. we'll talk about it. then at the top of the hour, a full hour of "meet the press". are allergies holding you back? break through your allergies. try new flonase sensimist instead of allergy pills.
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happening now, people in france. they have been out all day and the polls there closing in their presidential election shortly, and we will know who the winner is. either the centrist candidate emmanuel macron or marie le pen. both have victory parties this evening, but we know the ballots will be counted by hand. who will be the winner? the polling had put macron as a safe winner, but we shall see. the polling was correct as they
earlier predicted correctly about the runoff that would pair macron and le pen against each other for today. but again, we shall see in the next hour as we do expect an official result. we do know new numbers on how u.s. immigration has reduced. the apprehensions at the mexican border have dropped to a 17-year low and ice arrests have gone up 32.6%. joining me now, professor at the center for mexican-american studies at the university of texas and she's also an msnbc contributor and friend of mine. it's great to see you, and we know no new legislation has passed. we have court rulings. victoria frozen over the executive order banning entry from several countries, the travel ban or the muslim ban. but what does this mean, that
there is hard evidence that the language, the rhetoric of trump and also from immigration forces seeing a decline in folks that are trying to come here illegally? >> well, thomas, we see the apprehension at the border getting a lot more aggressive, so that is the first line of defense against having immigrants come over. but the second one, thomas, and where i think we'll see the immigration debate play out over the next couple of years is this issue of sanctuary cities. so we know that president trump put forward an executive order banning sanctuary cities. about a week ago, a district court judge put an injunction on that executive order, but right after that we saw attorney general jeff sessions come out and said, i am going to pledge to you that i'm going to fight this tooth and nail, and then we're seeing the fight get to the local level where texas is just a day or two away from the
governor signing an anti-sanctuaries cities bill for texas. this is where it is, where states and localities want to do their part in keeping immigrants. if they do want them to come to the u.s. in crossing that border coming to their cities and their localities. >> we know as president trump was campaigning, ag jeff sessions has talked about that and painting that picture. we have a progress report showing the department of homeland security draft proposal for more detention beds, speeding up money for the border wall, speet up hiring of immigration acts. we know the money wasn't built into the government budget that was approved for the remainder of this year, but that is a goal of this administration in some
way, shape or form, whether we pay for it or mexico pays for it, but a big, beautiful wall according to trump will happen. >> the wall, i think, after last week's saw with the congressional debate has been pushed to the back burner, so that's why i think it is so important for donald trump to flex his muscle with regards to detention centers, to showing folks, hey, i am apprehending immigrants who are coming over illegally. i'm beefing up the presence at the border, perhaps not an actual wall, but in hiring for agents. and one of the other things they're doing, thomas, is not just adding more beds to detention centers, but they are trying to get these detention centers to be named child care facilities so that if you have minors coming over or families with minors, you can keep them longer in these detention centers rather than having to let them go and stay with a family member. so he needs to make a mark with immigration. he ran on this. this is why people voted for him, so he needs to show his
toughness on this. even though he might have the obstacles of congress not wanting to give him the money, mexico saying they're not giving him the money, he still needs to be tough. >> here we are two days past cinco de mayo and the president did acknowledge that date on friday, releasing a statement saying, my warmest wishes to all of those celebrating cinco de mayo on this 155th anniversary of the battle of puebla. we know donald trump tweeted before on taco bowl. this is a big deal, right? >> i'm going to take what i can get. quite frankly, what's been so problematic with donald trump -- because we've seen other administrations getting tough on immigration, but his rhetoric is also insulting. the taco bowl was insulting because it showed that lack of connection. you may not necessarily be responsive to open immigration, but at least have respect for that community.
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