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and take on whatever comes next. find out how american express cards and services can help prepare you for growth at good morning. welcome to politicsnation. a busy show today with lots of news. the former president of the naacp is running for political office. we'll talk to ben jealous in a few minutes. kmeed yen and friend bill maher is using a friend that he shouldn't, and i'm pretty upset about that. and those parenis accords, why they matter especially to poor and minorities. but we start with breaking news.
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seven people are dead. 48 injured in an attack in the heart of london. around 10:00 p.m. local time last night. the incident began on london bridge as a car veered off the road and on to the sidewalk. hitting pedestrians. the attackers then fled the van and started attacking people in bars and restaurants at a nearby market. the police killed them from within eight minutes within when the attack again. the prime minister and the london mayor spoke a short time ago. >> we believe we are experiencing a new trend in the threat we face. as terrorism breeds terrorism. and perpetrators are inspired to attack, not only on the basis of carefully-constructed plots after years of planning and training. and not even as lone attackers
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radicalized online, but by copying one another and often using the crudest of means of attack. while we have made significant progress in recent years, this is, to be frank, far too much tolerance of extremism in our country. >> i'm appalled that they would target bystanders and innocent people enjoying their saturday night. one of the things the terrorist want to do is stop us enjoying the freedoms that we have, enjoying the mingling and mixing on a saturday night having a good time. they want to stop us voting own enjoying the democracy we have. we aren't going to be cowered by terrorism for let them win. >> no group has claimed responsibility for the attack. the white house said in a statement that president trump had spoken with the prime
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minister on the phone to offer his condolences and full support. trump tweeting we need to be smart, vigilant, and tough. we need the courts to give us back our rights. we need the travel ban as an extra level of safety. he later tweeted whatever the united states can do to help out in london and the uk, we will be there and in all caps, we are with you, god bless. let's go to london. nbc's lieuy is on the scene with the latest, and also nbc news security analyst duncan guarder. lucy, what is the latest? >> reporter: good morning. authorities are largely contained the crime scene or crime scenes. both london bridge and the markets where the attacks took place yesterday evening. there are now forensic
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investigators combing the areas were evidence. there are lots of closed circuit television cameras across london. they will be combing through that to try get more clues about how the attacks unfolded. the biggest is on trying to figure out to potential networks behind these three attackers. all three of them killed by the police. we saw a raid, a large police raid undergoing this morning. about 30 minutes away from where i am in an east london suburb. that would indicate although we haven't learned the identities of these three suspects, the three dead attackers, that police do have a sense of who they might be and are now potentially chasing up on leads. that's what we saw in the manchester attack last week in the immediate aftermath of the attacks. more and more arrests. they are legally allowed to detain suspects here for about 14 days under the uk terrorism laws before they have to apply to extend it.
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they will likely be pulling in any possible known associates of the three attackers to try to piece together who and what organizations, if any, might be behind them. the prime minister theresa may spoke earlier as you saw in your intro. she mentioned all of the -- all three of the major attacks that have taken place in the last three months. w westminster, manchester, and this one. she said it does not appear that they're connected, that they are connected by a common network. she did say they're bound together by what they called an evil ideology of extremism. we have not heard from the authorities that islamist extremism was behind the attacks. that's something the prime minister pointed out. >> duncan, let me ask you. the prime minister also suggested that it was a copy cat type of terrorism. do you think that this was inspired by the westminster
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bridge attack earlier this year? >> probably. inbetween that attack and this one, we've seen two foiled attacks that have been foiled by security services who had the individuals under surveillance. so it does appear that that particular attack which gained such a lot of publicity and was so high profile because it was right in the center of the capital has also inspired several other individuals who were thinking along the same lines to product copy cat attacks. it's possible that the manchester attack which was more sophisticated may have pushed them down that line as well. >> all right. thank you lucy and duncan in london. let's bring in an msnbc contributor malcolm nantz. let me bring this full circle. the attacks in london, paris, president trump now saying
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that's why we need a ban not a united states, new york, l.a., chicago, washington d.c., the nation's capital. people have to say whether verbally or to themselves, can this happen here? what is the real threat there, and how do you secure american cities and european cities from what is now becoming a too often event that happens in our lives? >> well, i think the problem is that terrorism spreads fear, and this fear is actually -- working in the united states. i think that since 9/11 this -- we are actually a more frightened population today than we were in the immediate aftermath of the 9/11 attacks. i find it quite confusing. terrorists have one goal. and that is to make you want to
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put in harsh restrictive measures which violate your own laws, which make you give up your own rights according to your own constitutions. the english are very resilient in this respect. they have had multiple attack but keep up the pressure and what they don't do is they don't change their society in such a way that the terrorists actually win. this is a counterintelligence counterterrorism mission which has counterterrorist forces at the end and law enforcement on the other end. and so when you go and throw bans up against countries that have nothing to do with terrorism because as of right now we would have to ban english because these attackers are english, and ban the frnch from coming into the united states. you're just -- >> the other thing here is that we're seeing prime minister may in the uk now saying that they
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are all bound even though it's not one conspiracy, the three attacks we've seen are the last three, in england, thshe said they're not bound by one conspiracy but bound by one terrorist, extremist ideology, and how do you deal with that? and how do you in many ways, deal with the fact that you're dealing with people that are not looking to make attacks to convert people but to punish people for not being what they are? i mean, that's an almost indefensible kind of way to deal with building a counterterrorism kind of strategy. wouldn't you think? >> well, the problem is our counterterrorism strategy is based on kinetic warfare. i've written three books about destroying the religious or cult
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religious ideology of al qaeda and isis. it's the one thing you hear people talk about all the time. no measures are taken. we had one state department twitter feed which was supposed to counterall of isis's ideology and social media worldwide. there is recently a video out of kuwait which i thought was the sing single most brilliant counterideology method used where they had a singer who is very well-known speak about how you're not even muslims. you're not even -- what you're doing is not islamic. you're killing children. you're killing women, and that god is greater than you. and until you destroy their link to their corrupt version of islam by using the 1.6 billion muslims, not pushing them away from the united states, we in the intelligence community will be very busy. >> it is not true islam as we are taught by islamic psychologicscholars. thank you, malcolm. coming up, thousands of people
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it all adds up to our most reliable network ever. one that keeps you connected to what matters most. welcome back. thousands of protesters took to the streets across dozens of u.s. cities on saturday. calling for an investigation of president trump and especially his ties with russia. march for truth led by a coalition of grass roots organizers took place in cities including washington d.c. new york, boston, and portland. joining me now is one of the speakers in the march,
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congressman al green, democrat of texas who has also been outspoken calling for the impeachment of president trump. congressman, tell me the intent and the effect of yesterday's marches around the country. >> thank you for your service and thank you for having me on. reverend, these were loyal and patriotic americans. these are people who love their country. these are people who don't want to see russian intrusion, russian collusion, if you will, with the trump administration, that creates a circumstance that's adverse to the best interest of democracy. these are people who marched in the rain. they were not deterred. and they made it very clear that they want an investigation by a bipartisan independent commission. and they want persons prosecuted if persons have committed offenses. i called for the impeachment of the president as i have before. i believe this has occurred. i don't think we need additional evidence to prove it.
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i think the congress has to act. >> you think there has been enough evidence to establish obstruction of justice to justify impeachment right now? there's already enough evidence in your judgment for them to proceed in the house impeachment proceedings? >> yes, and the judgment of others as well. the president confessed on national television at prime time. he indicated the russian thing was a madeup story, and that he was considering that when he fire police department comey, the director of the fbi. he fired comey and went onto tweet statements that could be considered intimidation. the point is this. if you want icing on the cake, mr. comey's testimony may be that icing next week when we go back to congress. but i like my cake plain. i like the truth, the plain truth, and the plain truth is the president has obstructed justice.
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he fired the investigator investigating him and said he did so because of the investigation. that's enough to impeach the president for obstruction of justice. >> thank you, congressman. let's bring in your reporter for the new york times, and an msnbc contributor. this week ahead we're going to hear testimony thursday from james comey who the congressman referred to president trump terminated. we're going to have other things that will inevitably point back to what is facing the president. but he's going on the road. he's going to ohio. he's talking about doing other things. is this part of the trump strategy to try to divert attention away from comey and other issues that are coming up this week? will he be able to get the media to go some other way?
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>> i think that he's always had this tendency or pattern to go back to his base, his safe space and rallies and try to talk to people who really love him and support him throughout whatever he does. i think that's part of what he's doing. i think it's a personal thing for him to go out and remember that he's a celebrated figure. it would be illogical to think that because you're on the road going to midwestern states that somehow james comey who people have been waiting to hear from, i think ever since -- he talked about the fact that he was reopening the investigation into hillary clinton, from that point on people wanted to know who was going on with him. thursday is going to be all about james comey. even if donald trump tweets something, james comey will be covered. and james comey has notes that he took beforee got fired that will r going to be important to what he has to say. >> he took copious notes in realtime. he has documented those things.
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he has certain information, certainly no one else would have. what are the things we're going to be most interested in hearing comey say or comey be questioned on? and will he say them and will they be questioned in your opinion? >> well, it depends on how much -- what he says is going to depend on what's classified and what's unclassified. he's going to say as much as he can that's unclassified. i think and most sources think that james comey wanted to testify publicly for a reason. i think he has something to say. i think the whole hearing is going to be about russia. it's going to be about did you ask for more resources. what was his attitude when you were talking about russia? did he ask you to back off on michael flynn? these are stories that have been out in the media and sourced by anonymous sourcing but now james comey can say yes i was asking for money or no i wasn't. yes, he told me to leave michael flynn alone, or not. i think james comey is going to
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be able to tell us whether or not the president was, in fact, trying to obstruct justice or if he was just talking about the russia investigation and maybe it was inappropriate, but he wasn't trying to stop them in any way. >> all right. we have to leave it there. thank you. up next, a comedian is using the n-word on live tv. not on my watch. we'll be right back.
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comedians are not having a good week. at least in my book. first it was kathy griffin, and now it's bill maher. griffin was forced to apologize after outrage of images of her with a fake decapitated head of president trump. not a good idea, and also not funny. by the way, the irony was not lost on us here at
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"politicsnation" as it was not too long ago that president obama went through eight years of abuse through twisted and sick creative mind on social media. out of respect, i'm not showing any of those despicable images. but you know what i'm talking about. we, of course, do not condone any threat of violence against this or any president. now on friday night comedian bill maher used a racial epithet during an interview on his hbo show sparking another outrage on social media. bill maher was talking to republican nebraska senator ben sassy who was there to promote his book when the following exchange happened. the two were discussing teenagers and maturity, when bill maher mentioned that adults dressed up for halloween in california. he then asked sassy if people do
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that in nebraska. >> you got to get to nebraska more. >> you're welcome. we'd love to have you work in the fields with us. >> work in the fields? >> that's part -- >> i'm a house [ bleep ] -- no. it's a joke. [ applause ] >> thank you. >> oh, no. oh, no. oh, no. there are no exceptions that make this acceptable. yes, comedians are expected to cross some hard lines. i get it. but let's be clear. free speech comes with a responsibility to speak up when folks use that word and that's what i'm going now. the history of the n-word is too painful, too loaded, too raw. it's an attack on human dignity. it's an attack on the american creed. you cannot allow anyone to act
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like there's anything funny in any context about using that word. and you have to have one standing no matter who it is. we led the fight against radio host don imus after he made slurs about women's team. we stood up to rush limbaug. and last year i called out black comic larry wilmore who hosted the white house correspondent dinner and called president obama, quote, my n-word. so now we're upset with bill maher. he doesn't get a pass because we're friends. what bill maher did was normalize a word that is anything but normal.
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we want to give you an update on the breaking news out of london. where police are now saying they have made 12 arrests in relation to the attack last night. police say all 12 arrests took place in east london. and searches for more suspects are continuing. seven people were killed and more than 48 were injured. police say three men drove a van
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across london bridge, mowing down pedestrians. they then ran into nearby markets stabbing people as they went. police shot and killed all three suspects within eight minutes of being called. joining me now is jim, an nbc law enforcement analyst. you've been through this before. what will this do in terms of those of us in the united states? how can this effect us at home, and how will it effect ongoing security in europe? >> i think it's affecting us at home, our law enforcement authorities are paying close attention to everything going on for sure. it makes us all as sit accidents want to be more alert and in tune to our surroundings, and i think take a clue from what the prime minister said of england said when they were in this tremendous threat category they
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were in the high threat with manchester and westminster bridge and now this. some people are tolerating extremism in their country. you've been a champion at rejecting extremism if afrom al corners. communities can't let people preaching hate, making hate like it's all right. it doesn't matter what corner it comes from. but they have a tremendous problem. they have hundreds of people who are directly affilted with isis who have traveled to the conflict area and come back, and those tentacles are strong, and some of these people could be connected to those people, and those people can be agents of influence if they're not direct actors into the it's act themselves. so the fact that now president trump is saying that this is why we need a muslim ban, are we now
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hearing prime minister may say that there is the i'd d id logical links. they are seemingly continuing to happen with some kind of normalcy almost setting in. will this, in fact, push the need or push the selling of the need of a muslim ban or other bans both in the united states and europe no matter how many of us object to it? >> i strongly object to it having been involved in terrorist investigations and terrorist task forces. a muslim ban is wrong. it plays exactly into the philosophy of the terrorists. the terrorists who basically are a death cult, they want the world to believe that they
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represent islam, 1.3 billion people on the planet. it's garbage, and they kill more muslims than anyone us. that's going to hurt us. we need to help muslim americans, the uk needso help their muslim pulation, and none of us needs to tolerate extremism or give the terrorists an edge. don't focus on muslims. that's so wrong-headed. it can't even be explained. it's bad policy. >> as you said, more muslims are being killed by them and it's not true islam. thank you, jim. >> thank you. back in the u.s., the democratic race for governorship of maryland is already heating up with a crowded field of candidates. on wednesday, ben jealous formally forma formally announced his bid for the job. he's the youngest president in
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naacp history. he was an avid supporter of bernie sanders, and later hillary clinton during the 2016 presidential race. late this week i spoke with jealous about many topics starting with the state of american race relations under president trump. >> i see the pretty eyes of my children. my daughter's about to be 12. my son's about to be 5, and it's been really sad to watch over the last six months just the increase inhostility, racial tension on the playground. here. here in maryland, we've had two white men, both seemedomewhat disturbed but also very much associated with white supremacist groups stab black men to death twice. apparently just because of their race in the last six months.
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one of them came from north of baltimore. he got on a bus to go to time square and hunted a black man in new york city. the other one was a student at the university of maryland college park who at 3:00 in the morning two days before graduation killed a young man from buoy state who was two days from graduating but also about three days since he'd become a second lieutenant in the u.s. army. a story like cain and able. and today they found a noose inside the smithsonian. i'm very much concerned that our young people are at risk in more ways than we realize. very much concerned that we're not doing everything that we could be doing to move our state, to move our country beyond this hate, to really confront it on the terms of which it needs to be confronted.
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you and i know. we've had our lives threatened for standing up for justice, and we know that what tends to happen is right after the crisis people want to act like everything is okay. they just want to ignore it. but things go back to normal. but something is going on in our country right now, and i believe our president and the way that he has conducted his politics has brought out the worst i many people. but it runs deeper than that. and we as a society in our cities and states have to finally have the courageous conversations but also make the changes in our educational institutions. in our businesses. in our large corporations about how we encourage people and inspire people to be their best selves and to let go of some of those old traditions of hatred and division that run so deep. >> and i think we need to
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continue the effort in coalescing to push this forward. we saw that your successor cornell brooks left the naacp, but we need naacp and all of us, and the young activist groups. i don't like what i see with some pitting groups against each other when we're facing this climate. you need everybody doing whatever they do and do it effectively. do you have any comment about the naacp and the state of it going forward as you served as the youngest president of the naacp? >> you know, look, i have great faith in the association. the chairman, the vice chairman who stepped up in this time, are very much rooted on the front lines of civil rights activism in the south. but i also, frankly, grew up in the naacp and our localranches like the baltimore branch here
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which will host the national convention this summer. they are very much plugging away every day, standing up for young people, the prince george's county branch in maryland, very much engaged with this aftermath of a killing of young mr. colli collins. and that's what, frankly, gives me the faith that no matter what happens, the naacp will move forward. >> now, you will week, took a step that many people have noted all over the country, and particularly there in maryland. you co-chaired the state of bernie sanders presidential run, and many people were pushing for you to enter the political arena, and you immediate it official this week that you, ben jealous, are a candidate for
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governor. tell us why. >> yes. right now we look at our federal government, and every single branch is controlled by far right ring extremist. and in these times we have to decide that quite frankly, all the power that's been transferred to our states over the rise of state's rights the last 50 years, we need to stop complaining about it and embrace it for the power and the freedom that it gives us to move our states forward no matter what's happening in washington. in our state, we have a gernor who on the one hand opposed president trump. but then as a republican, has lined right up. as soon as trump became president, he just went silent. similarly, we've seen sessions come in, and begin actually rolling back the clock on criminal justice reform, and our governor has quietly signed up for it. >> sessions actually said he
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wanted to see a delay in the consent decree in baltimore that came out of the freddie gray case. >> and you know what? what most folks don't realize is that doesn't just put sessions in tacet support of our governor at odds with the civil rights community. it puts him at odds with most major city chiefs who across this country one by one will tell you the only way to reform the departments are with the consent decrees. and it's certainly put the republicans at odds with the majority of people in baltimore. and frankly, i would say in the state we want to see baltimore get safer and know part of the city getting safer has to be a reform of a department that has lost the trust of local residents and, therefore, folks are not going to the cops with all that they know, because they don't trust that they will protect them. >> you were a major figure in
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the candidacy and political movement around bernie sanders in 2016. and later you campaigned for hillary clinton. but as much as we saw a big d, a lot of movement, we haven't se in the at least high profile political wins, out of the bernie sanders movement, is your race and if you win, a potential big victory for the bernie sanders political movement that started and excited a lot of people in 2016? >> you know, i start third down journey with a lot of hope but also very humble. my family, like so many families across this state, knows that when their son steps out, there's no person of color who has ever held state-wide office in our state before. and so even sort of -- if you will, the challenge for the
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bernie movement, there's a greater challenge here. >> we'll be watching ben jealous in the state of maryland, former head of the naacp. happy to have you with us this morning. >> always good to see you. >> up next, president trump's decision to pull out of the international accord to combat climate change will make life even harder for poor people. how so? i'll tell you after this break. the mummy has returned.
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>> on thursday, prede trump further endangered the nation's if not the world's most vulnerable people. when he announced that the united states would withdraw from the 2015 paris accord to combat climate change. environmental juice tis advocates insist the move will make life even harder for poor people who stand to suffer the most from more frequent natural disasters. nearly 80% of african americans live close to a coal-fired power plant. the pollution from which is known to contribute to respiratory illness like asthma in the black community, and black americans are nearly twice as likely to die from heat-related illness as -- and as global thermostat rises, so does the probability that even
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more will suffer. during his bid for the white house, president trump famously asked black voters what they had to lose. well, if you like clean air, and viable environment, it looks like you have a lot to lose. joining me now is jackie waterson. director of the naacp environmental and climate justice system, and a former epa official for environmental justice who is now senior vice president of climate environmental justice and community revitalization for hip hop caucus. let me go to jackie. this is going to be detrimental to everybody, but it has very direct disproportionate decem r
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detriment to blacks, minorities, and poor people. you worked on this. explain why this answers what mr. trump said when he was losing. what we have to lose and what we lose by what he just announced. >> yes. thank you so much the for having me, and hi. yes, there's so much that we're losing already and that we have even more to lose through the situation. the whole continuum of climate change. as you talked about the coal-fired power plants with 78% of african americans living within a coal fired power plant, it means we're more likely to have these exacerbating conditions in terms of chronic health conditions. african american children are three to five times more likely to enter to the hospital because of an asthma attack and three to five times more likely to die from an asthma attack.
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adults are more likely to die of lung disease but less likely to smoke. we have these in terms of the driver's side. on the impact side, we see where the extreme of the driver's side and then on the impact side. we see where the extreme weather events, whether it's the heat islands that are being created by extreme weather and the impacts on communities that don't necessarily have the ventilation or air conditioning and so forth to protect themselves, to the disasters where communities are often not as -- african-american communities are often not as mobile and able to get out when the disaster is coming or where we don't even have the infrastructure. we have a situation where in louisiana where levees are built based on prioritizing -- built up based on prioritizing impact -- >> i think that's the point, mustafa, when we start saying
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this will have a disproportionate negative impact, there goes reverend al and naacp, there they go again. the fact is you can't divorce the economic conditions of people, like the ability to be mobile, like the afact where they live may not have the ventilation. you can't divorce or sever the conditions that people live based on the economic standing and based on housing from the environment and then you have the environmental concerns. you worked at epa on this. you've been a champion of this. connect the dots. i think people don't understand, this is not just another slogan. this is real life on the ground. >> ts just shows another example that the president doe not care about the lives of folks who live in these communities, african-american communities, latino communities asian pacific and island
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communities and indigenous communities. i ran a seven-agency task force on environmental justice, we understand housing, economics and environment are all interconnected. if you look at what happened in baton rouge and floods that came through and killed so many people and $10 billion associated with that, it just makes sense that we get in front of these issues. also, if you look at princeville, north carolina, a community founded by freed slaves and impacts that happened inside their community also and the lack of infrastructure and opportunities that existed in getting ahead of this, it is all interconnected. >> jackie, you're with the naacp, the legacy organizations like others, urban league and others. how do you energize the civil rights community to put pressure on those in washington to really say to the president, you cannot do this? >> yes, very good question, we have started to -- we've been
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historically working at the local level and at the state level on getting folks energized around talking to their local legislative legislature and city councils and mayors an state congress folks and so forth. we actually did at the -- in paris where the paris agreement was signed we were there with a delegation with the historically black colleges and universities, climate change consortium we did a die in with the black lives matter act vists as well, as much as folks are being racially profiled in the streets, we're dying in cuts due to the disproportionate impact on our community. starting at the local food movements and shifting away from dirty energy to these activism activities. >> we must continue our lives depend on it. thank you, jacqui patterson. always good to see you. we'll be right back. what if we ?
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