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award winning engine. the volvo xc90. the most awarded luxury suv of the century. visit your volvo dealer to take advantage of our midsommar sales event offer. i'm richard lui in new york city. breaking news. after 52 hours of deliberations, the jury in the bill cosby sexual assault case came back. they came back deadlocked on all counts. the judge asked each juror individually, do you agree that there is a hopeless deadlock that cannot be resolved by further deliberations? that's exactly what the question was. each juror then responded with a, yes. cosby was charged with three felony counts of aggravated indecent assault. he and his team have repeatedly denied these and all allegations
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of sexual misconduct. the district attorney says he will retry the case. attorney gloria allred who is representing some of cosby's accusers welcomed another trial. >> we can never underestimate the blinding power of celebrity, but justice will come. i hope that the prosecution will try this case again and that the next time the court will permit more prior bad act witnesses to testify as the prosecution had requested. >> and cosby's publicist went to celebrate the legal victory and slammed allred. >> mr. cosby is back. it's back. it's been restored. the jurors used their power to speak. and mrs. cosby's power is back. so the legacy didn't go anywhere.
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it's been restored. and for all those attorneys who conspired like gloria allred, tell them to go back to law school and choose another class. >> ron allen has been covering the trial and joins us from just outside philadelphia in norristown, pennsylvania, where this all happened. you heard that defense saying basically, celebrating as i was saying earlier with their -- with this mistrial. at least for now. >>. >> exactly. andrew wyatt is a strong advocate for bill cosby. we've gotten to know him over the weeks here. he may be a little optimistic if he's saying the legacy has been restored because there are still dozens, more than 50 women out there, who have made allegations of sexual misconduct against mr. cosby. allegations he denies but they're still out there. in the court of public opinion, it's difficult to see how cosby can restore his reputation. there nor other trials aside from this one. had he been found not guilty here, that would have been one
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case. and there are still those others out there. so there's still that. and he will face this again. the district attorney immediately without hesitation said once there was a mistrial, a hung jury, he was going to put cosby back on trial again. that could begin -- that process could begin again in 120 days from now. what will be different next time? the prosecution, i would guess, is going to try to push to have more of cosby's accusers testify against him. in this case, just andrea constand and one other woman. decisions were made by the judge along the way suggesting that too many more accusers would be prejudicial to bill cosby. that's why it was very limited. it was a decision fought over and for many, many weeks leading up to the trial. we've also just received a statement from andrea constand, the accuser in this case. from her attorneys thanking the prosecutors for pursuing this case. also adding in part that we are confident that these proceedings
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have given a voice to many victims who felt powerless and silenced. victims of sexual assault. so there's those as well. we go forward now. the jury is on their way back home to pittsburgh. they were sequestered here for two weeks. grueling deliberations that lasted more than 50 hours. longer than the entire trial. they've been ordered by the judge not to talk about the deliberations, but hopefully they'll give us some insight into why they chose the decision that they did. why they remain deadlocked and why this is a mistrial that will have to be done again. >> ron, we just, as you know, we were waiting to hear from cosby's defense team. and we just got in some tape. i want to get your perspective on this tape we just got in from one of the representatives of cosby's team. let's take a listen to that and then get back to you. >> he's a storyteller and he has a tendency to be very truthful and tells a wonderful story from time to time. being on the witness stand, you don't want a storyteller on the
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witness stand. >> so there you go. you were alluding to him, ron, earlier, because he had come out and spoken saying why in this case they did not bring bill cosby onto the stand. they didn't want a storyteller to get telling stories on the stand. >> it would have been potentially a disaster. most people looking at this thought he would not be a strong witness because he's a storyteller or for whatever reason. but the jury was able to hear bill cosby's statements about what happened through other means. his police report. the initial police report was read back in court. also there's been a civil case going on regarding this matter. his deposition from that was read to the jury. so there were incriminating statements. statements that said essentially what had happened that night. and statements he was able to make not subject to cross-examination. so he was able to do that, to
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get that evidence in so the injury could hear his side of the story without cross-examination. so there was really -- at one point there was some suggestion that cosby might testify in his own defense but that really probably was never really under serious consideration. >> something you've been watching and we can see it behind you, a sense of it today is that court of public opinion, right? and so much energy behind you in terms of folks arriving, both supporters and those who were critics of bill cosby. what have you been hearing and it seems it's a quieter day since it's now been declared a mistrial. >> it's a very quiet day out here in norristown now that all this has gone away. there are a lot of -- there were a lot of advocates for women's groups. a lot of advocates for victims of sexual assault who were here watching the case who hoped to send a message with a conviction and who felt like they were able to send a message nonetheless because this case was aired and because these concerns about how victims are treated in the court
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system were front and center. a lot of people tell you that victims are just not treated fairly. they're not believed. that their reaction to the assaults that they undergo are not what the general public might expect, but this is routine. in the case of andrea constand, she maintained contact with bill cosby afterwards. and there was some testimony and her lawyers were alluding to the fact that this was a behavior we wouldn't think is something that we would do, but it's something that's common amongst victims of sexual assault because they're trying to maintain this relationship that existed before this incident. so there was a lot of that. and there were a lot of accusers of cosby here as well watching this day-to-day standing in sisterhood with andrea constand. they were day pointed but continuing to continue to vow and continuing to fight on for justice. and as i said, the da, the prosecutor in this case, without hesitation, said he's going to start this whole process over again. >> what a case it's been there,
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ron. and as you are mentioning, this is only one more chapter. nbc's ron allen, thanks for that there in norristown. i want to bring in kathryn mackinnon from the university of michigan and harvard law school and debbie hines, trial attorney and former prosecutor. ron was alluding to one item, and that is the, what we learned in the case, 72 contacts between andrea constand with bill cosby. and one of our guests over the day was saying, why did the prosecution then drill down on this, debbie, in terms of what were the details as to why andrea constand had contact with bill cosby? because it may not have appeared the way it appeared without any explanation. >> that was one issue. the fact there were so many contacts between andrea and mr. cosby. that was only one thing. but there were so many other things you'd have to explain. even if they were trying to explain these were contacts between work and this particular
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day. this is why she had to make the phone call. this is another reason why she had to make the phone call. there were other inconsistencies in the case. there was inconsistencies where she said she thought the incident occurred when they were at a dinner party where there were other people there. now we know it didn't happen that way. it happened when she was just alone, just she and bill cosby. there were so many other inconsistencies involved in the case. she thought she couldn't remember whether it was january, february, march of 2004, and that really goes to the heart of the case. all the little inconsistencies chopping away bit by bit by bit in the case and the fact that mr. cosby did not have to take the stand. that was the most healthy information there was was the fact of his testimony by way of civil deposition and the police statement. >> kathryn, were there too many inconsistencies? >> i don't really think so. basically, her story held and in
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some of his previous statements he confirmed the basic story that she told. i think that when he says -- it appears that the basic defense was this was consensual. that has nothing to do whatever with so-called inconsistencies. >> what did you make here, debbie, and we played that sound of again cosby's defense team and he was saying, of course we're not going to put cosby on the stand. he's a storyteller. we don't want him to be telling stories. that's widely been in agreement from those like yourself. the two of you, experts on this. do you agree with what he said? >> absolutely. there was no way they were going to put bill cosby on the stand. he would have been rambling and it would have opened the door to just about everything and anything. >> if bill cosby had taken the stand in his dfrks he absolutely probably would have been convicted. there's no way that even they alluded to it by way of his publicist, i never thought for
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one second that they were going to put bill cosby on the witness stand. >> a lot of folks didn't. reflect on that as well as what do you think will be different when the second trial begins, because the d.a. says he's going at it again. >> i think it was right he didn't take the stand. it's how i would have advised him. there really is no question about it. he doesn't have to either. n it's up to the prosecution to prove the case. next time they have a chance to prove it, one would hope for possibly more of his other accusers with similar pattern evidence being able to testify. i know they tried. but they could try that again. this goes to the fact that base ically the crimes of sexual assault are defined as if they are individual, exceptional circumstances when in fact, they
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are actually group based. they are based on gender and other inequalities, and they are not exceptional. so the more -- short of redefining them in the appropriate way, the more real evidence of the patterns that existed with the other alleged accusers that could be brought into this, the stronger the case would be against him. >> what does this mean for the other accusers? they are watching this very carefully. dozens of other accusers are saying, this is the outcome. now what do they do? >> it's disheartening to the accusers who were hoping that this would -- hoping against hope this would be the verdict that would represent in essence all of them in bill cosby's case. but it's the fact the jury saw this primarily probably as just a case against andrea constand, which this was this case. but the prosecutor is going to retry the case, although i can say as a prosecutor, as a former prosecutor, retrials don't get any easier.
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we hated when we had to retry a case because of a mistrial. but i think that the victims can hold out hope. there is another retrial that is going to occur. and mr. cosby needs to know that it's not over yet. >> all right. thank you both so much. kathryn mackinnon and debbie hines. have a great saturday. >> you, too. president trump and the first family making their very first trip to camp david. the latest on the president's plans for the weekend. and as the president spends the weekend away from the white house, the russia investigation still looming over his administration. as the president has acknowledged that he is now under criminal investigation. the same again. we went back to the drawing board. and the cutting board. we never stopped tasting... and tinkering. until we had... a line of the world's best hot dogs. we removed the added nitrates and nitrites waved goodbye to by-procts. and got rid of the artificial preservatives in all of our meat. every. single. one. for every. single. one of you.
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welcome back. president trump and the first family arrived in camp david today. their first ever trip to the presidential retreat. this getaway for them is a day after the president acknowledged he is under investigation calling the russia probe a witch
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hunt. but the president is taking no chances adding a high-powered attorney to his legal team. veteran lawyer john dowd who is no stranger to high-profile cases. kelly o'donnell is following the latest from the white house. dowd goes back as you were telling us, he goes back to the keating five. that's like going back to the '80s. a lot of experience here. >> he does. in some ways, i've been thinking of adding john dowd to this team as sort of an age pier for the president who just turned 71 so to have a 76-year-old attorney with experience that goes back deep into the '80s is something that tracks president trump's own career and public life in the business sense. in that way it may be a comfort factor for the president to have someone with this experience and life story. high profile, too, because john dowd has been a part of some of the very famous scandals of the washington era over the past couple of decades and has
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relevant work that ties into the kinds of issues present in the russia probe from financial matters to ethics. that kind of thing. so the keating five goes back to the savings and loan scandal in the 1980s. also defending one of those involved in the iran/contra hearing which was in the reagan administration. that controversy, of course, dominated the headlines then. when you consider the work on behalf of major league baseball investigating gambling and pete rose and that ultimately led to superstar pete rose of the cincinnati reds being banned for life from the game and the hall of fame. very prominent in that sense. the team has expanded. that is, in many ways, to be expected given the nature of the scale and magnitude and interest level in the russia probe. very important to point out sources close to the president's legal team tell me that he has not been informed that he is under investigation. that's important because the
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nature of these kinds of investigation, there comes a point that if someone is the subject or the target of an investigation, they are notified. the most entry level is to be a witness. so the fact that he has not received specific notification yet according to those close to his legal team is notable and yet he's prepared, lawyered up as they would say, expected. but it's also one of the things that the trump white house is trying to avoid talking about as much as they can so having a separate team helps them to do that. >> marc kasowitz also there. accomplished but some question about, is he the appropriate high-power for president trump. how are those two going to be working together? how are they going to divide and conquer from what you've been hearing? >> comfort factor for marc kasowitz and the president. they have worked together for a long time. he's represented the president in his business life out of new york. this brings together the two worlds of president trump. the new york background and
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someone he has a personal level of trust with and a washington lawyer who knows the ins and outs of how these kinds of investigations unfold. the risks and the things one needs to be prepared for. in that sense, it brings together the two most prominent parts of the president's public life on the same team. >> thank you kelly o'donnell there at the white house on a saturday. appreciate it. joining me now, kurt mills. also emily kaday, political correspondent at "newsweek." so you heard kelly break it down for us. adding another high-powered member to his legal team, and she really laid it out well. as we get more reporting about what mueller is doing, the special counsel looking into the russian connection and obstruction of justice also included as a possibility here, he's going to have to divide and conquer. in ter of political expert and on as a biness expert and it seems like he's got two of those, emily. >> yeah. and he also has his white house counsel's office, obviously, in the office of the executive
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branch. and so there's going to be a lot of lawyers. the vice president now has a lawyer reportedly. staffers are getting lawyers. one of the big issues for the next few months for this white house is how they juggle all of this legal advice. and if the president really listens to any of them because certainly you would think they'd be telling him not to tweet and yet this week he was tweeting about the investigation again. >> he's been doing that, kurt, the vice president also getting lawyered up, if you will, and krishna pa telewas saying this is not common, all of these lawyers, although the vice president was saying this is just part of the process kurt? >> this situation is bizarre and unprecedented. you have a prom niinent surroga of the president tweeting out hit pieces that are attacking bob mueller, kellyanne conway. reports that even one of trump's lawyers is thinking of retaining
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a lawyer, michael cohen. the whole thing is just so bizarre. >> another thing to consider here, emily, the senate intelligence committee as we're watching throughout the week. it is kind of tough if you just drop in and put your arm around all the developments in one week. but this has only gotten bigger over the last seven days. the senate intelligence committee specifically in their investigation, they had that huge hearing, that open hearing with comey. they just told cnn on thursday they'd largely leave the statn into obsti of justice to the special counsel. specifically focus on russia and the russia connection question. why would they do that, emily? >> that's because the senate intelligence committee is specifically focused on intelligence issues. so they are really interested in this question of counterintelligence and how much the russians were meddling in our election and whether any trump campaign officials also participated in that. but the senate judiciary committee, the democrats, the
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leading democrat on that committee, dianne feinstein, wants to have an investigation into this obstruction of justice issue that's more a justice issue than an intelligence issue. >> she and grassley are on the same page when it comes to subpoenas, as we were talking about over the last week. kurt, the approval rating here in the united states, the latest a.p. poll has it at 64% for president trump in terms of disapproval. so these are, again, potentially equaling all-time lows. as a foreign affairs reporter, how are these numbers abroad? what's the -- as we've now hit another week, 140-odd days in, what are you seeing in terms of how other politicians are talking about the united states and this white house? >> the president is toxic unless you're in israel, saudi arabia, maybe a few other select countries that he specifically focused on and reached out towards.
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history marches on. it's clearly affecting his domestic agenda but this sanctions bill, this is administration that won a detente with vladimir putin, or something approaching that. they can't pursue that. all that affects syria. his approval rating elsewhere is a huge obm. george w. bush was eremely unpopular in europe. but ihink trump has bested him. >> emily, you know, over in the house, let's look forward to wednesday now and what they're doing in terms of their investigations. a public hearing with jeh johnson, a former homeland security chief, you were talking about how let's focus on the russia connection. what do you expect jeh johnson to say on that note? >> he'll talk about how the white house responded when they first got this indication that the russians were involved in the hacking and how concerned they brp that. what kind of communications they had with russia and also what
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they are watching on the domestic front because certainly they had some of these officials working with the trump campaign in their lens, and they were monitoring them. people like carter page and some others were raising some alarm bells even then. so that will be a lot of the inquiry you'll see at that hearing. >> a lot of folks watching that one as well. going back over to the senate but staying on the topic of russia, they slapped new sanctions on russia. a 98-2 bipartisan vote on thursday, but this limits the president a bit. does it limit the white house because they have basically defined what can happen now? >> it was a bipartisan vote but the two people who voted no were rand paul and bernie sanders. two people in theory the president could work with. particularly paul. he needs his vote on health care. in terms of reaching out to the
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other senators, trump can't touch this. he's going to let pence and speaker ryan push this through and sign anything that's as anti-russia as possible in order to give himself domestic cover. >> thank you, emily and kurt. >> of course. breaking news we're following at this hour on this saturday -- that mistrial declared in the bill cosby sexual assault trial. new developments on that. plus, protesters take to the streets s is in st. paul, minn after the acquittal of a pole officer who shot and killed a man during a traffic stop. yeah it's perfect. bees! bees! go! go! go! [ girl catching her breath } [ bees buzzing inside vehicle ] the all-new volkswagen atlas. with easy-access 3rd row. life's as big as you make it.
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welcome back. i'm richard lui. thanks for staying with us. at the bottom of the hour, following breaking news. a judge has declared a mistrial in the bill cosby sexual assault trial. the jury spent more than 50 hours deliberating but came back deadlocked on all charges. the district attorney says he will retry that case. seven u.s. soldiers were injured nan attack in northern afghista it's the success second such incident this month. in today's attack, the u.s.
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soldiers were shot by an afghan commando in mazar-e-sharif. according to reports, one afghan soldier was killed and another injured. the incident is being investigated as a possible insider attack. we're also following more on the breaking news coming off the coast of japan where crews are still searching for seven missing u.s. soldiers lost after the u.s. missile destroyer they were on collided with a container ship last night. three more u.s. sailors were also injured. nbc's janice -- >> reporter: the "uss fitzgerald" was towed to part. it has considerable damage to the starboard side. it experienced flooding in two berthing spaces and the radio room. the primary focus, of course, is trying to ascertain the whereabouts and the well-being of seven sailors who are still missing. it's just not known what happened to them. whether they are trapped in those paces that they now have to try to access, whether they
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fell overboard. there are japanese and u.s. boats and aircraft that are searching the area but there's rain in the forecast so they could run into some bad weather later today. the captain of the ship was evacuated to the u.s. navy hospital here, and there were two other crew members treated for cuts and bruises. the other part of this is the investigation on how this could have happened. why is it that the container ship made a sudden u-turn 25 minutes before the collision, and on the part of the "fitzgerald" how is it that an advanced warship with sophisticated communications techlogy could collide with another ship on a night when there was calm weather? so all of these questions will be explored as part of the investigation but, of course, the effort, the concern, the focus right now is finding those seven sailors who are still missing. >> janice, thank you, there in japan. not guilty. that was the verdict handed down yesterday by a jury in the trial of a minnesota police officer who fatally shot motorist
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philando castile. his mother immediately criticized that decision. >> i am so disappointed in the state of minnesota. my son loved this state. he had one tattoo on his body, and it was of the twin cities. the state of minnesota with t.c. on it. my son loved this city, and this city killed my son. and the murderer gets away. >> last night demonstrators took to the streets to protest that decision. castile's girlfriend recorded the incident on facebook live streaming it after he was shot by the officer but no footage of exactly what happened leading up to the shooting. the officer testified that castile was reaching for his gun, and he feared for his life. a judge has declared a mistrial after a hung jury in the bill cosby sexual assault trial. why could jurors not reach a verdict there? i'll talk to someone who was in the courtroom from the beginning.
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now more on the judge that's declared a mistrial in the bill cosby sexual assault case. cosby was charged with three felony accounts of aggravated indecent assault. jurors deliberated for 52 hours and could not reach a unanimous decision. joining sussteven who is covering the trial and beth karas. i'll start with you on this, steven, since you're their on site in norristown. we heard from the cosby team, and it was a long -- or longish availability. what stood out in that availability? i heard them mention one thing and that was why they did not bring cosby on the stand. >> the defense too a very unusual approach in some respects. they had a short defense about six minutes long. just one witness who was a witness the prosecution called. i think they felt by that point that cosby on the stand could really only hurt them. his statements could be picked
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apart if you said the wrong thing. his past could be brought in. the prosecution could not actually introduce anyone besides one prior witness. they felt that less was more in the closing argument, cosby's defense attorney made a lot of the points cosby would have made. also the deposition that was read aloud by someone else in the court. they felt if they went more minimalist they could avoid some pitfalls and create reasonable doubt in another way. >> what are we missing in this conversation? you have heard so many cases over the years. what we are missing? >> i don't know that you're really missing anything. the facts are not largely in dispute. consent was the issue. three different theories, without consent, unconscious, pills that made her incapable of consent. that's what the jury was grappling with here. when you look at the evidence presented, less than the previous prosecutor had when he made the decision not to go forward because that prosecutor didn't have cosby's deposition. the civil case hadn't happened
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yet. so when bruce castor, the d.a. in 2005 decided not to go forward, he was evaluating the evidence we have now, minus bill cosby's admissions. the statements he made in his deposition. when that was unsealed in 2015, that's what caused the prosecution to take a look again. a different prosecutor and say, whoa, maybe we have a prosecutable case. obviously, se of those 12 jurors, we don't know the vote. some of those jurors agreed. >> why couldn't those jurors come up with a verdict? why are we in a mistrial state today on this saturday? >> that's the 24, 64 or $53 million question, given the number of hours. they sat and deliberated for a long time. part of it was this reasonable doubt. the fact that the defense really raised the possibility that there were some inconsistencies in andrea constand's testimony.
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she also did not come forward for about a year. there was no physical evidence. remember, the bar here is extremely high. and, of course, all you need is one juror to push back. we were trying to get a read on what the jurors wanted. they had 12 or 13 different questions which is to say they really wanted to hear different parts of the testimony again and again. much of it focused on that night. a lot of different views on what happened that night. all you need is one juror. we'll find out how many it was. may have been one. may have been more saying there's reasonable doubt. i'm going to dig my heels in. they deliberated for longer than the actual trial went on. clearly they gave it a go and couldn't reach a resolution. >> you have watched hundreds of cases here. when they go to retrial, potentially around 100 days, higher probability here of success for the prosecution? >> i have seen many retrials, and in conviction for the prosecution. prosecutors learn from things they did in the first trial. maybe they can do better. but i don't think the evidence is going to change in this case.
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the wild card is the jury. are they going to come from pittsburgh again, allegheny county? another part of the state. that's the wild card. a different jury could be a different result. >> what's the headline, the story line now that we have a mistrial. if you had to write for monday? >> i think the big question now, a couple big questions, what does it mean that cosby was not convicted? we've heard from a lot of victims' right groups who say this celebrity power that we thought maybe we'd kind of moved past, that we entered the 21st century with a little more enlightenment that that hasn't happened. i talked to a couple of accusers outside the courtroom who said that wasn't the case. the other issue is what happens now going forward as you guys were saying in this next trial and can they get a diffent result? it seems like this is a divisive issue. cosby say divisive figure. can you get 12 jurors to agree? we'll have to see. >> court of opinion. that continues to move on here. these topics will be talked about, although the case is now done. >> absolutely. and i just want to add, if bill
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cosby had taken the stand and asked on cross-examination if he ever did this to anyone else, it would have opened up the floodgates to all the other women. he was never going to take the stand. we'll never see him on the stand. >> thank you so much. beth karas and steve. we are learning more about the gunman who opened fire on members of congress at that baseball game wednesday morning outside of washington. that practice, you remember that. what we know about the suspect's motives today. plus, the final stretch in that special congressional election in georgia. it's moving right now. what message will voters send to washington? when you booked this trip, you didn't know we had over 26,000 local activities listed on our app. or that you could book them right from your phone. a few weeks ago, you still didn't know if you were gonna go. now the only thing you don't know, is why it took you so long to come here.
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ask your dermatologist about otezla today. otezla. show more of you. some disturbing infortion about this week's shooting at the p congressional baseball practice. the shooter had a republican hit
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list. but investigators say they have not found specific evidence that gunman james hodgkinson preplanned wednesday's attack. louisiana congressman and house majority whip steve scalise was shot in the hip. he's undergone multiple surgeries and remains in critical condition. mike viqueira joins us from the center where scalise is being treated. good news and bad news for the congressman and his medical condition. but this also brings up the question based on this new information i was just mentioning, of security for all the members of congress and how they're going to be discussing that. >> well, and it's an ongoing issue on the capitol campus and elsewhere. of course, we know that the leadership in congress, whether they are republican or democrats, does have a security detail armed with them at virtually all times, 24/7 around the clock and that included steve scalise. and that is the reason why this gunman -- alleged gunman james hodgkinson -- was stopped from
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the rampage. the assault that resulted in steve scalise and others being gravely injured. and when we say gravely injured, richard, we also, we're learning new information yesterday, the director of the trauma unit here at the washington hospital center held a press conference. we knew steve scalise had been hit in the hip but new details, and according to the individual who gave that press conference, scalise came here. he was at imminent risk of death said the doctor. as critical as you can be, he added. scalise is stilln t icu. he's got more operations coming. his stay her open ended, largely indefinite. he'll be here for weeks. that is all very bad news. the good news is that he's progressing. he's getting better. the doctor says there's an excellent chance that he'll be walking, perhaps even running again. so there is reason for optimism for a full recovery for steve scalise. now you mentioned the fact the suspect, law enforcement officials, did find a list of republican members of congress,
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at least two of whom who were there on the field last wednesday morning. on the person or in the personal belongings and effects of the suspect, james hodgkinson. mo brooks who was there. a republican from alabama. jeff duncan, a republican from south carolina. and trent franks, who as far as we know was not there that morning, from arizona. there were evidently others on the list. these were the names we found. as you point out, no indication if it was a hit list or he was after or targeting specific members of congress or politicians, certainly republicans with a history on social media this suspect had with antipathy toward republicans. an ominous and disturbing discovery and revelation. >> mike viqueira following the story at the hospital where representative scalise is at. thank you, sir. a local election with national implications. it's a special congressional election in georgia. that's happening tuesday. and already ballots cast by early voters nearly 140,000.
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just see some of the lines happening over the last several days. they are alrdy making their choice between democrat john ossoff and republican karen handle. that number, 140,000, is more than the number who took part in early voting during the first round. the african-american vote is also one factor. african-americans comprise 13% of the district's voters. and the ossoff team is working hard to get that group excited and out to the polls. but republicans who have cooled on president trump may be another important group to watch in this down to the wire race. beth fouhy is on the ground in sandy springs, georgia. i was just looking at the local station there, wsb tv, which you know, because you're there. they and landmark came up with a poll that shows 1.7 percentage point difference. this is a real squeaker here. >> it is going to be a real squeaker, richard. and it's actually shocking that jon ossoff, the democrat, has a
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chance at all. this is a district that's been held by republicans for 40 years. but suddenly democrats are very energized. i'm in john ossoff's, one of his many campaign offices in the district. a whole lot of volunteers are getting ready to go out, hit the streets, canvass, knock on doors. it's still -- the factor that's really -- the elephant in the room here is president trump. i spoke to john ossoff last night and asked him as a democrat, would he have any chance of winning this thing if not for the man sitting in the oval office right now. let's listen. >> how much is trump going to determine the outcome of this race? >> i think this race is about who can deliver for this community more than about national politics. there are many in this community who have serious concerns about the direction the administration has taken us in. i'm one of them. those concerns have only grown over ti. >> if you win, will this send a big message about what the president and republicans should expect in 2018? >> it will suspected a big message about what georgians
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want. effectiveness, integrity, commitment to results and not more of the same partisan nonsense. >> well, that's what you hear jon ossoff saying is that it's a local race, not a national race with national implications. karen handle, the republican in this case, is taking a very different view. she's saying that national democrats have put jon ossoff into this race and given him this extraordinary amount of mon money. i attended a rally of hers. this is what she had to say. >> his values are some 3,000 miles away. the people of the sixth district are not about to let nancy pelosi or the people of california and new york and massachusetts tell us who our next congressman is going to be.
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one of those two candidates is going to win this thing. voters are ready to have this done and we'll have a big, big night on tuesday. >> bring out all the big guns. beth fouhy, thank you. new developments in the ongoing flint water crisis. criminal charges are now being handed down to even more state officials in michigan. we'll take a look at those charges and possible jail time for them. (dog) mmm. this new beneful grain free is so healthy... oh! farm-raised chicken! that's good chicken. hm!? here come the accents. blueberries and pumpkin.
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six more current and former michiganffials areow facing criminal charge in the connection with the flint water crisis. these charges range from involuntary manslaughter to obstruction of justice stemming from an outbreak of legion airs disease that killed 12 people. this began after flint switched the source of the drinking water to the huron riefr i river. that's about three years ago. earlier governor rick snyder made the government aware of legion airs disease.
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take a listen. >> reporter: this is to continue the fact that we want to make sure we're making good implications with respect to flint. the information was just recently presented to me and i thought it was important to share. over the course of 2014 and 2015, we saw a spike in legion air nairs december -- legionaires disease. if you go to the preceding years before 2014, we had six case, 11 case, 13 cases and 8 cases, in 2014, we had 45 cases. and then in 2015, there were 42 cases. >> there are now 15 current or former state and local officials that are facing criminal charges in connection with the flint water crisis. many flint residents still have to used bottled water as their only safe choice for drinking water and showering sometimes. joining me is a reporter with the flint "journal."
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thank for joining us. the headline reading that involuntary manslaughter charges are now involved in the flint water crisis was an eye catcher. what's happening there? i gave a little bit of the background. but you're on the ground. >> reporter: there, the prosecutors in this case are saying that the actions of some individuals, including the highest ranking one, nikolaiion, who is the director of health in the state of michigan and the governor's cabinet. they had information there was a legionaires outbreak going on, yet they kept that information to themselves. they never went to the public with it. they never went to the governor with it, according to governor. >> and the individuals specifically, a senior citizen who passed from legionaires disease, what do we know about him? >> reporter: we don't know a lot about him. he was a general motors retiree. he was one of the 12 victims of legionaires who ended up dying
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as a result of the disease and as we we heard dozens and dozens of people contracted it, which was way off the charts. it was an outbreak by everyone's account. >> what is next in this involuntary manslaughter case? >> reporter: i'll be back in court with mr. lyon and the director of health, the chief medical director. those are the two new defendants in this case. on monday, there are some technical things that need to be worked out. there are a handful of other defendants who will be back in there as well. we are still very early in this process. they're still talking about whether or not they will end up interviewing the governor in this. so it's mostly going to be procedural matters, but they'll be right back in court on monday morning. >> tell me if i'm wrong here, there are dozens of cases open on this, some odd 50 i think that are involved. will this or any of them make it up to rick schneider? will it make it to the governor,
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which many of those acted by this crisis want it, too? >> reporter: everyone wants an answer to that question. the attorney general was asked about it as well. i don't know. the governor's attorney has said that he's willing to give a statement provided that that statement be kept confidential. i assume that continues on. i do know this, for the first time since this story began back in early 2014, two members of the governor's cabinet have been charged with crimes and things getting interesting. >> you know, ron, i talked to mellissa mays every couple of months who is there in flint and affected by this water crisis. she told me about her kids every time and they're not doing well. how are things on the ground there for families there in flint? >> reporter: there is still a lot of uncertainty about the use of the water. the results from sampling that's going on is showing that the water quality is improving with
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regard to lead. however, there are other concerns that people have about bacteria as we get into summer and more water being used, there's concerns about that. so the advice that the state and the feds are giving the people of flint right now is not to drink water without a faucet filter. >> 30 second by the way, it still discolored? >> reporter: typically not, although, i wouldn't say that doesn't happen. there is a lot of stagnation in the flint water system. quite frankly, it's too big for the number of people it serves. so that is not so much of an issue, but there is a lot of underground construction that's going on in the city, removing lead service lines that were damaged in the water crisis and there are concerns about increasing lead being possibly breaking out. >> ron, my best to you and all the folks there in flint and ann arbor as well, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> that wraps up this hour for
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me here on msnbc, stay with me for updates and breaking news, you can find us on twitter and instagram. "hardball" is next. have a great fight. [ music playing ] . you're fired. mr. "hardball." . good evening, i'm chris matthews in washington. today for the first time since the trump russia probe got under way, president trump publicly acknowledged he is under investigation for possible obstruction of justice. he said so. in doing so, however the president took direct aim at the deputy attorney general rod rosenstein, the only person in the executive branch who has limited authority over this special counsel's probe. trump tweeting get toing i am being fired b