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>> jonathan swan, thank you very much. i wanted one last word with our panel, but sadly, we are out of time. so matt slap, joining us from washington, thank you. you guys are awesome. i hope to see you again back in d.c. where i am headed tomorrow. see you in new york tomorrow morning at ten a.m. for meat's show. >> good to see you in person for once. and if it is monday, trump jrn lawyers up. >> tonight, defining collusion. >> i would certainly say done junior did not collude with anybody to influence the election. >> the trump campaign met with a russia lawyer to get dirt on hillary clinton. are there any consequences? >> plus, what happens if the republican healthcare bill isn't revived soon? >> it's very, very difficult when you can only lose two votes, and there may only be two that are irrelevant retrievable. >> and victory in mosul. what it means for the international fight to stop isis.
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this is mtp daily and it starts right now. good evening. i'm katyty tir in new york in for chuck to do. it's been called everything from a nothing burger to board erg on treason. last june three of mr. trut's closest advisers, his son done junior, his campaign chief paul manafort and his son-in-law jared kushner met with a russian lawyer at trump tower seemingly hoping for a bombshell, maybe about hillary clinton. trump jr. says the lawyer whose client claimed to have information about russians aiding the dnc and hillary clinton. he says her statements on the matter didn't make sense, and the matter was dropped. but the mere confirmation that a meeting like that happened at all has reignited a firestorm of accusations and allegations
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surrounding president trump and his inner circle as investigators try to determine whether or not they colluded with russia during the campaign. the senate intelligence committee is now interested in speaking with done jr. about the meeting and he is now lawyering up. he says he's happy to cooperate. today the white house was pressed on how his latest revelation under cuts its previous denials involve contact with russia. >> how are we to take all of these blanket denials that occurred through the transition and now when it has been proven and recognized by the president's other than and don jr. that those blanket denials were not factual? >> i think the point is that we've tried to make every single time today and then and will continue to make in those statements is that there was simply no collusion that they keep trying to create that there was. >> collusion is hard to prove. it is even harder to prosecute. lawyers tell nbc news that
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absent an exchange of money, collusion with a foreign power is not a crime legally speaking. but politically it's not quite that simply the news comes just days after president's one-on-one meeting with vladimir putin which itself has prompted an intense backlash. rather than pushing russia for meddling in the election. the president says he told putin is he might partner with him on cybersecurity and election sbeg rilt. mr. trump today ditched the idea after republicans pulled the fire alarm. >> i am sure that vladimir putin could be of enormous assistance in that effort since he's doing the hacking. >> it's not the did you meanest idea i've ever heard, but it's pretty close. >> it's a good idea for the fox to guard the hen house. >> what? >> so i take it you agree with john mccain and everybody else. >> i thought lindsey put it well. >> told chuck ho meet the press yesterday that the president has a blind spot on russian matters. the million dollar question both
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politically and perhaps legally is why. donald trump jr. says he didn't even know the russian lawyer's name when he agreed to meet with her. heck, we're not even sure he knew she was russian or a lawyer. and let's be real here. if putin had damaging intel on hillary clinton, would he really deliver it to trump by having a russian pop star reach out to a public list to contact don jr. because that ultimately is exactly the chain that was apparently involved in setting up this meeting. but the episode illustrates how easy it might have been to gain access or even curry favor with the campaign in its quest for victory. we know russia hacked up dirt so clinton. we also know that the campaign was eager to find dirt and use it against her. in the end, they got it thanks to wikileaks and they did use it. how and why is a matter of federal investigation. but now there seems to be a very real concern within the gop that trump's blind spot could put
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american interests and future elections at risk. joining me now is new york republican congressman lee zelden. it's a member of the house foreign affairs committee. it's wonderful to see you in person for once and not over that satellite we usually have. let's talk about trump and russia. this meeting that will donald jr. had with manafort and kushner and this lawyer. people are calling it nothing burger. the ethics zblar at the bush white house, richard parent, says it is nearly treason, borders on treason. where do you stand on it? >> i would fall in the nothing burger category on this one. i'm someone who does believe russia melgded in our elections last year. i do believe russia is an add ver saer to the united states. i'm concerned with russia's activities in north korea and syria and i'm a republican, but i'm upset to see the dnc, cccc, john poe des a's e-mails get hacked. in 2017 the democrats may be the
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victim and who knows it could flip. and we need to come together as americans. as far as this one particular meeting, it's not evidence that the russian government was colluding with the trump campaign and providing damaging information. you know, we know that the russians, you know, they did -- they were involved in these hacks, so if this was russian government colluding with the trump campaign, they would have been providing information and the russian government would know who -- this meeting was taking place. there's just so many facts missing. >> what about don junior saying she had information about hillary clinton and we wanted to hear it. this is a russian come to trump tower, meeting with don jr. you have two of the senior advisers in addition to him in that room. and it's ultimately a russian lawyer saying i have information about hillary clinton. should that not have raised a red flag? >> that's exactly what it was. it seems like someone had told don jr. that if you have this meeting, that you would be getting some information about
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hillary clinton that can be useful for the campaign. we don't know, as you mentioned just now, whether or not they knew that he was -- that she was an attorney and she was russian and had connection to the russian government. this was before all of these stories started breaking about the hacks, who is responsible for some of these hacks. so at that particular moment in time this particular fact pattern is so different than -- >> doesn't at the very least, though, express a willingness to collude? >> i think it's a willingness for anyone who wants to sit down to provide information to the campaign that might be helpful with them winning the presidency of the united states, that they're willing to sit down. i don't believe that this is evidence of collusion. i take it for what it is. it was someone contacted don jr. and said hey, you should take this meeting -- >> but the willingness to take that information -- shouldn't he have called the fbi at the very least if she's coming in and
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saying, hey, i have evidence that the chin tons or the dnc is being aided by russia? isn't that a phone call that should -- isn't that i meeting that should lead to a phone call to the fbi? >> as far as the meeting ift, from the information that we've come in contact with so far, we don't know of -- all we've come in contact with was that there was no information that the woman used this to be able to discuss what her real agenda was, which was other topics unrelated to actually information. so certainly after the meeting there's no reason to contact the fbi about this -- what this woman is saying about hillary clinton, because at the meeting supposedly this woman didn't even have any of that to talk about. >> you just said that you're concerned about russia hacking into the election. you believe they did it. the president himself has been not so clear about that. his advisers say that he brought it up with vladimir putin. donald trump, though, and his advisers all say that they should move on. you know where i stand, he said, in a tweet. and where he stood only 24 hours
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before that meeting was that he wasn't quite sure if it was russia. yeah, probably, but it maybe could have been some others. so given all of that, can you trust this white house to be on the front end of making sure that this doesn't happen again? do you want to just move on? >> i would want to be able to move on knowing that a very clear message was sent to russia that there are consequences, that they will never be able to do this again to us. that we take the breach seriously as americans. we come together as far as -- >> sanctions? >> sangs, absolutely. and it's broader. the sanction component is one that i support. and part of that has to do with what happened with regards to last year's election. part of it has to do with what's going on in ukraine, north korea. we're losing -- north korea, they did not cannot have the ability to put a nuclear warhead on an icbm. and we don't want to have to use
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a military option, so the december messy and the economic peace, the economic pressure on the north koreans, that's all related to the sanction debate. >> but congressman, this white house is trying to hold up this sanctions bill. they don't want this sanctions bill because they say they want more ability to negotiate with vladimir putin. can you trust this white house, given how loose they've been with russia to be able to weeld sanctions whenever they please? why are they getting involved in this bill in the house, which just got passed in the senate? >> well, the executive branch and the president of the united states has the primary role as it relates to the foreign policy. the united states congress -- >> do you trust them? >> yes. and congress needs to mine taken oversight. when we enact congressional sanctions, it's with a particular intent. we're enacting sanctions because of ab and c that we just discussed. now, approximate going forward, if the president of the united states, whoever that is, and our state department and at the united nations, if those
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conversations are taking place and we're making progress, i absolutely understand the need for flexibility, but congressional intent and oversight, that's very mornt as well. >> do you believe, though, that this white house, given that this election turned out well for them, that ultimately these hacks probably could have or maybe could have benefited them, that they have an appetite to actually put sanctions on russia? >>ible that they -- >> punish them for hacking into our election? >> obviously they're not going to feel like -- >> do you believe and trust that they will. >> yes. >> are necessity. >> i don't feel that they feel the victim like hillary clinton would or the democrats would, but the message is that the president and those in his administration who have been sounding off on this topic, especially around the g20, that's the right message and it should continue -- >> but they haven't done anything. they've said let's move forward. there's been no consequences. >> well, you do have a different administration officials weighing in on this topic -- >> but the president has not said there will be consequences
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for this. >> yeah. i don't know -- >> i mean, if this was president obama i imagine you would be on a different side of this issue or hillary clinton. >> the key is whether it's a president obama, a president hillary clinton or aid president trump and the most important message is having a long game one that's thinking 10, 15, 20 steps aside. that's why the sanction piece is important. it's still an important message to send as americans. >> congressman, it is wonderful to see you in person. sorry. i could keep talking to you about this forever. thank you for coming on. let's bring in richard pain ter. he now serves as the vice chairman of invitation zblens for responsibility and ethics in washington. richard, thank you very much. are you said earlier that this borders on treason. >> well, let's cut through the baloney here s. we know that
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what the russians have been doing. they've been doing this since the 1917 revolution when the communists wanted to did he stabilize all the western denim raesz, are including the united states and western europe and they've been conducting espionage inside the united states and that has continued up through 2017. it's going on right now. and when the russians call or someone calls on behalf of the russians and offers derogatory information about a former secretary of state who is a presidential candidate, the first person you call is the fbi. i don't care if you're a republican as i am or a democrat, you call the fbi. the last thing you do is go meet with the russians to try and get the derogatory information. they're only trying to do that in order to use you to accomplish some purpose, and we know what that is. it is undermining our system of representative democracy. and once again, they've been doing this in western countries for over a hundred years.
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it's a very, very serious problem. that a high ranking, several high ranking representatives of the trump campaign would not call the fbi about this, would go and meet with the russians in order to obtain derogatory information about secretary clinton, that's not how we win elections in the united states. we don't use russian agents, russian spies to gather information on our opponents. we do not accept such information from russian agents or the agents of any other adversary. >> i want to get another question in. given that you say this meeting could border on treason, i want to broaden that out. does that mean that paul man port, jared kushner are bordering on treason as well along with don jrn and that the president himself is bordering on treason because all of them have sought out damaging information about hillary clinton from the russians? michael flynn did it. donald trump did it in that july
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27th press conference in 2016 where i invited russia to find hillary clinton's deleted e-mails? so are they all bordering on treason according to you? >> well, i think the president's remarks are public remarks. we do not have evidence that the president himself met with the russians or authorized meetings with the russians. at this point in time we do not have that information. we need to focus on the facts we have. and what is treason would be assisting russia in an attack on the united states. russia did conduct an attack on the united states in 2016 through computer hacking to disrupt our democratic election process just as they did in france a few weeks ago. and anyone who assisted in that or wanted to help the russians disseminate that information, even for their own partisan political ends jibl engaged in treasonous conduct in assisting in an attack on the united states. but we need to get the facts. all i'm saying is the facts
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reported in "the new york times" article come very close if not is crossing the line with respect to treason if those facts are true. we need to find out what's true. >> richard pain ter. thanks very much for joining me, sir. >> thank you. >> and joining me now is sam none berg, a long time donald trump aid and a confident who was fired early on in the presidential campaign. sam, thanks so much for joining us. >> thank you. >> you were an advisor early on. you have been in donald trump's circle for a long. >> uh-huh. >> is this a meeting that you would have taken? >> it's problematic, but probably i would have taken the meeting because of the context of when you hear don jr. say that it involved someone they knew from the 2013 miss universe. they have worked on trying to get the miss universe over to moscow. and it seemed a little innocuous. mag gi haber man, she's even said that this is something where don had like an open door policy and this was a friend of
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his s. on the other hand, is though, what i would say is when you look at the lawyer and the background of the lawyer, there were some issues where -- >> why wasn't the campaign looking at the lawyer and the background of the lawyer? why was this a campaign well you had an open door policy where you could have unplanned meetings with a unnamed people? >> well, this was a weird presidential campaign and it was a weird presidential cycle. when it first started it was a skeleton campaign. people like don jr. s they had a lot of contacts and people coming in. i would tell you, though, at the end of the day here when you look at this and you look at the context of the meeting are, is this something that amounts to treason, is this something that amounts to collusion? i would say i'm one of those people where it says it's a nothing burger. and it's even a nothing burger even if they would have brought in information that would have been negative towards hillary clinton -- >> but why so many meetings with the russians that they don't disclose, they have to amend their disclosure forms? why are there so many
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revelations about people that are questionable that this campaign met with? >> well, nsel, i don't know if there are so many of these meetings. >> there's quite a few. >> this meeting in particular, don jr. was under no -- he had no reason to report it. jared subsequently reported it. >> there's flynn's meeting with -- >> that was during the transition. let's also be honest. this isn't as if -- we're not at the point yet where this is -- >> there's a question surrounding the convention and russia and changing the platform. >> this is nothing like a blue stained dress or something where we know now that's something you can show direct collusion between the kremlin and the trump campaign. and even if you could, by the way, people like alan ders wits say there would not even be a law violated. katy, i'm not attacking you, somebody like richard pain ter. you talk about ethics during the bush administration, give me a break. you're talking about the same administration, they had probably ethical problems
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themselves. everybody is an expert on -- >> let's move back. >> yes. >> so donald jr. has a meeting with a russian lawyer -- >> who is arranged by a colleague of his -- >> i might have dirt on hillary clinton. and then he says he sat there and he realized very quickly that she didn't have anything, which implies that he would have wanted something. >> sure. >> so does that actually express at the very least an openness to collude or to get information about hillary clinton from anybody and to collude with maybe a russian if they had that information? >> from a russian? sure. >> to moscow. >> i don't want to parse, but this is a private lawyer. >> the lawyer has connections to moscow. >> the lawyer is a private practicing attorney who has represented people who are connected to putin. >> the lawyer lobby by level. >> i don't want to turn it around to you. let's say somebody had approached the clinton campaign and said that i have information
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that donald trump is having people from his foreign investment, let's say in ireland or in england, same kind of thing. what is the difference here on that? what is the dirngs? >> at the bottom, what is the deal with this campaign in russia? what's the deal with the friendliness in russia? is it a real estate thing? and why is donald trump, why is he willing to go after sh, sam, except for vladimir putin? >> okay. so that's a very big question here. why would the trump campaign want to get information any way necked? look, this was a very, very dirty campaign. okay? he had his own taxes released. remember, they were leaked out to the new york times. this own network leaked out videoos, right, that he had from -- >> we didn't leak out -- >> access hollywood? >> this isn't access hollywood. >> no, to leak that. >> no, it's pnt. >> no. okay. well, somebody colluded to leak that out. >> this was something where they had to get a lot of information
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out. if i had to guess, and remember, i was being sued at that point. i wasn't exactly in direct contact with them h. but they had all the advantages it seemed to be for hillary clinton if they wanted to get anything that they could get. >> why is donald trump willing to go after everybody except vladimir putin? >> how do you know -- he's signing a sanctions bill. aren't they going through a sanctions bill with congress right now? he bombed syria. >> that's not the question. why is he willing to go after everybody -- >> what do you mean? how is he -- >> why is he willing to go after everybody but not vladimir putin? >> sam, he was willing to go after you and you were a long time con if i dant of his. >> and vladimir putin directed hacks into our electoral system. >> first of all, one, i agree with you. two, i don't want it to come out like a russian file here oi a putin file. he's an adversary of ours.
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but you show me where during this current administration where donald trump has done anything that's been positive or preactive or productive or vladimir putin? if anything, if vladimir putin thought he was helping elect donald trump, he must feel as if he got scammed so far. show me something. what has he gotten? he hasn't gotten anything. >> i've got to leave it here. thank you so much for coming on and giving your time. what else may be out there with the campaign's relationship with russian sources. and later, the healthcare bill is even in more trouble today. it's ok that everybody ignores me when i drive. don't kill us, kill the bill. don't kill us, kill the bill. bey cellphone when i'm driving. even though my family does, and leaves me all alone. here's something else... i don't share it with mom. i don't. right, mom? i have a brand new putter you don't even know about!
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welcome back. the president is again lashing out at former fbi director james comey on twitter. this time apparently in response to a misleading report by the hill newspaper that more than half of comey's memos detailing his interactions with the
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president contain classified information. president trump tweeted, quote, james comey leaked classified information to the media. that is so illegal. comey gave some of those memos to his friend daniel rick man, a columbia law professor asking him to share with reporters. three of comey's memos were classified from the beginning and were never shared with him. rick man tells nbc news the contents of the one document he did share are not classified. a congressional source familiar with the matter says a small portion of one of the other memos rick man received has been retroactively classified. if that phrase sounds familiar it was because of retroactive classification that caused trouble for hillary clinton during her campaign. and it was, of course, james comey who accused clinton of being extremely careless in handling classified information. we're back with more mp t daily.
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jennifer jacobs is the white house reporter for blum berg news and a former advisor to mitt romney and marco rubio. molly, let's start with you. this meeting with don jr. and this lawyer with jared kushner and paul manafort, what does this add to this russian narrative? where do we stand today? >> well, it's just a continuing dripping and dripping of revelations. i don't think we know yet what the significance of this is fully. as with so many developments in this investigation, they're highly suggestive. they could be nothing and, you know, it is a potentially significant fact, and it's something that we know the ve s investigators are looking at. and it's odd that the story seems to have changed or evolved as more details have come out. we don't know what we don't know. and these investigations are in progress, so i don't think we know the full significance. >> jennifer, why does the story change so many times when it
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comes to folks around donald trump? >> yeah, exactly. i mean, don jr. said his story, of course, didn't change. he just was offering up more information. but i had a couple gop campaign operatives say, listen, we're eight months in. couldn't these people have gotten together a list of every single, you know, russian or foreign national that they ever had any communications with during the campaign or transition and presented that to the public, to the press, you know, in these last eight months. why couldn't they have already presented that and that would have made things a lot better for them. so you're right, the changing story is the thing that raises a lot of questions. >> is there anyone talking about maybe finding a way to compile that list, get that done so that they can head off any future revelations? >> they feel like they have released as much information as they would like to right now. that's all i know. >> that's what they've said repeatedly in the past, i guess. lonnie, you worked on the mitt romney campaign. is this a meeting that you would
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have taken? >> probably not a meeting i would have taken, and certainly if anybody on the campaign wanted to take the meeting, we would have expected them to let us know so we could do some vetting. now, let me just say it's not unusual for a campaign to want to gather opposition research on one's opponent. certainly there has been reporting that the democrats in the clinton campaign had some work wg the ukrainian government regard prosecuting donald trump. so that's not unusual. but i do think with this meeting in particular it would have been important to at least vet who this person was, why are we meeting with her, what is she offering, what ties does she have. to go in with eyes wide open to avoid precisely the kind of situation that the trump team is in now. >> molly, you wrote a big article about don jr.ible it was last year, a big profile. from your sense of him, why do you think he was the one that would organize a meeting like this? well, he's a highly social person. he's got a lot of friends. he's sort of an operator.
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and at the point that i wrote the profile, it was may of last year, trump wasn't even the nominee yet, but it was already clear that don jr. was very much a trusted advisor to him. he was a high profile campaign surrogate. this was before he had given that very well received speech at the republican national convention. but he was sort of coming into the spotlight, and very much an operative for the campaign. as we know, the campaign, much like the white house, was very much a family affair, also like the trump business. and don jr., although want necessarily as high profile as ivanka as always been at his father's side and the effort. >> the power was all around the kids especially during that time because cory lewandowski and paul manafort of infighting and sultel the kids were trying to push out lewandowski. jen, there is a lot of talk about sanctions, the bill for sanctions is stalled right now in the haus. the white house is not a fan of
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it. if it does make it to donald trump's desk, is he likely to sign it? >> it sounds like it. i am serious about that. you had mark short at the briefing today talk a little bit about that. i think there would be so much pressure. obviously it was prout up in that meeting between trump and putin. they stressed that. they said listen, there's a lot of anger and mistrust in congress right now. these sanctions are on the table. it sounds like they didn't hash overall the details of the sanctions, but it was brought up as a point to say this is how serious it is in the united states. so, yeah, i think there would be a lot of pressure to get that passed. i do think he would sign it. >> lonnie, the president has said that he doesn't necessarily believe that -- or he doesn't sn if russia was the one behind the hacking definitively. but then he also goes back and he blames president obama for not doing enough. so wouldn't it follow from blaming president obama for not doing enough that he would want to be on the front lines of making sure that the sanctions were as tough and as stringent
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as possible? after all, he's a guy who campaigned on making sure that he was going to be the protect tore of the american voter. >> yeah, i sure hope so. i think that is an easy step for this administration to be able to take to draw contrast not just with the obama administration but with the bush administration. i think the mistake that we have made hoefr the last two mgsz is trying to think that we could have a friendly relationship with vladimir putin. this is not a guy, frankly, who cares at all about american interests. we have to view putin in a clear i'd fashion. if he is able to get these sanctions in place, i think that would go a long way clarifying where we stand with russia and approaching it with the realism it deserves. >> guys, stay with us. we'll come back to you a little bit later. and still ahead, senate republicans try to rehab their healthcare bill, but are they facing an even greater uphill battle than before? day 13. if only this were as easy as saving $600 when you switch to progressive.
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. welcome back. members of congress are returning to d.c. today and here is what they found waiting for them. >> kill this bill, kill this bill, kill this bill. >> capitol police say 80 people were arrested this afternoon between the house and the senate. these protests against the senate's healthcare bill are happening even as we expect to see a new version of the bill very soon. republicans are still center line terd as they try to come up with some kind of repeal and replace for obamacare that can
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attract at least 50 votes. and the situation actually got more complicated over the july 4th break as a number of lawmakers faced demonstrations and tough questions on health care from their constituents at home. over the weekend, two more senate republicans said they are not in favor of the original draft of the bill. that brings the total number of republicans against the original bill to 10. congress only has three weeks left before that august recess, and president trump tweeted today that he, quote, cannot imagine that congress would dare to leave washington without a beautiful new healthcare bill fully approved and ready to go. earlier today one of the bill's advocates, senator pat tu my indicated that he has not given up yet. >> sink there's still a path. hiem not polly an nish about this. it's very difficult when you can only lose two votes and there may be already two that are irretrievable. mike pence breaks a tie. >> joining me now from capitol
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hill thanks for joining us. what can we expect if anything to happen this week? >> well, katy republican senators think that we'll see the bill this week. the theory was that we might see it in the earlier part of the week. now we're thinking maybe later in the week we might actually see the text of this new bill. i don't think we'll see a cbo score this week and i don't think there's any chance that there will be a vote until next week at the earliest. i think the big thing is we're going to find out what changes they made to this bill. we have to think about that as almost a separate thing. i think the bill that's going to come back here is going to have a couple of these i guess changes. are big increase in the money of open oids, allowing people to use their hsa spending accounts to pay their premiums. the most controversial item and get some of these conservatives back is this ted cruz amendment that would allow people to buy essentially stripped down cheaper plans with the thinking
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you could get more people insured, get premiums down. >> will is that be enough, though, to get this thing passed? are there enough conservatives that would say enough to this cruz amendment for mitch mcconnell to be able to bring this to the floor for a vote? >> that's the million dollar question. bring all the conservative back on board and still be in trouble. dean heller of nfd seems like a very hard know who is far more popular than he is brian sandoval decides to back this bill. susan collins still sounds like she's a very hard no. someone like rob portman or she will la are going to be more tricky to bring back on. so if you've got those two moderates, that's it. i don't think the crews amendment in itself will be enough. we have to see what other changes will be able to make in this bill to potentially attract those moderates back.
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>> bipartisan deal on health care? >> the sense i get here, katy is that that's probably going to be the last ditch effort here. there doesn't seem to be any appetite for that and there doesn't seem to be any appetite for is that from the white house s. from the white house you're still hearing that they would rather see this split repeal and then replace as the option before they would go to work with democrats. and democrats who have said they want to work with republicans on fixing the affordable care act, i think will never get there as long as that repeal, that r. word is on the table. no senate democrat wants to be part or party to undoing president obama's sort of legacy achievement. >> politics, sometimes just an issue of semantics. greater hake. thank you so much, sir.
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richard eng elhas this report from mosul. >> we are in the old city of mosul. this is the front line. this is the place where isis has made its last stand in this city. and we're not just anywhere in the old city. behind these buildings to my life is the tie gris river. calling in air strikes, the tie gris river has always been their main objective. this old city, this hold out for isis ends at the tie gris. the the fact that we were able to reach this area means the main thrust of the operation is more or less over. you can hear there's still some gunfire, there's still been some air strikes. there are pockets of fighting on going in this city as some isis hold outset remain. but the big purn, the push to get here, a push that has taken nine months of iraq effort backed up by u.s. troops is now more effectively at its end. richard eng elnbc news mosul. >> and you can catch more of
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get your first prescription free at it is time for the lid. jennifer jacobs, lonny chen and molly. molly, starting with you, health care. republicans are facing a bit of a tough battle when it comes to health care. what's the likelihood that they're going to be able to get a vote to the froor? >> the republicans i've talked to are increasingly pessimistic. and they were pessimistic to start with. things only seem to be getting worse for this bill. mitch mcconnell has not found a ra bit in the magical hat of his. you know, as the senators were back in their home districts, heard nothing but negative feedback for the most part. and as garrett was saying just a couple of segments ago, they keep getting more and more nos on the bill and there isn't even a bill yet.
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so it just doesn't look good. >> let's take a listen to a couple of the skeptics, lindsay graham and john mccain. >> the obamacare is going to fail, if it does fail, work together in a bipartisan fashion to replace it. i don't know what the outcome will be, but mitch is trying really hard. >> my view, it's probably going to be dead. but i've been wrong. i thought i would be president of the united states. but i think -- i fear it's going to fail. >> lonny, what's the problem with mitch mcconnell just saying, you know what, this is too tough, let's find a way to work with democrats? what would be the political risk of doing that? and what would the american public be happy and welcoming of congress finding a way to work together? >> i think it's a tremendous political risk after seven years of talking about repealing and replacing obamacare, to not at least have fought for a vote, to have fought this all the way
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through, to have consideration of some alternative, i think is absolutely imperative for mitch mcconnell and the senate republicans. if that effort fails, the next order of question becomes what kind of a bipartisan solution might there be. democrats have drawn the line in the sand. this vote is going to have to happen first before there's further talk of any kind of bipartisan action on health care. >> listen to senator jerry moran talking about why he is not in favor of this bill. >> with the affordable care act, premiums are going up. and my concern is, with the plan in front of the senate, that was in front of the senate a week ago, i'm not convinced the premiums are going down. >> jennifer, donald trump campaigned on the premiums going down. you're going to have better coverage for less money. why does the white house back the senate on this? >> well, it does sound like the white house is expecting to see the bill this week, like garrett
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said, and it does sound like they're really counting on a vote next week. but you're still seeing that push and pull between conservatives and moderates. interestingly, susan collins, the republican senator from maine, in an intervoo with bloomberg this morning was talking about how encouraged she was about mitch mcconnell talking last week about doing something bipartisan if it fails, and not repeating the mistakes that democrats made by passing this with just one party. she urged republicans to work with democrats. mike pence, the vice president, in an interview on rush limbaugh's radio show today signaled the opposite. he was critical of republicans talking about wanting to work together with democrats. so i think that's a pretty strong signal that if there are changes to this legislation, the white house wants to move to a more conservative direction, rather than to try to soothe the people in the middle. another interesting thing that you heard from pence today is the whole argument that he's
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trying to make that there are little victories in this bill for various people, that understand that maybe you're not getting everything you want, but this bill does do a lot and people need to declare a victory. >> jen, is there anybody in the white house pushing for anything bipartisan, the moderate factions in the white house, dina powell, jared kushner, people like that? >> it sounds like they're leaning at the more conservative faction. >> molly, if they can't get this done, the white house will have another piece of legislation that they were not able to pass. which points to what major legislation have they been able to pass? what does it mean for the white house? >> yeah, i mean, i think they would say that the deregulatory bills that passed in the congress very early on were major pieces of legislation. but the big ticket things that they promised to do, besides just repealing regulations, those have not been done and the timeline keeps slipping. they are in the box where they
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made the promises that they haven't kept because of all the divisions. it will be hard for them to explain to their constituents both in the republican party and in the general elector at? >> guys, thank you very much. after the break, members of congress get creative in their criticism. david. what's going on? oh hey! ♪ that's it? yeah. ♪ everybody two seconds! ♪ "dear sebastian, after careful consideration of your application, it is with great pleasure that we offer our congratulations
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it, it seems like they're all trying to one up each other with comparisons to see how upset they are by this idea. adam schiff said it would be akin to inviting the north koreans to participate in a commission on nonproliferation. senator marco rubio used partnering with putin on a cybersecurity unit is akin to partnering with assad on chemical weapons. amy klobuchar got a little more folksy, saying it was like the fox guarding the henhouse, or the bear guarding the honey. she wasn't the only one. >> that's beyond puzzling. that's like tweeting out he would like to fight drug abuse in america by starting a new drug interdiction with el chapo. >> it's not a good idea for the fox to guard the henhouse. >> like the guy robbing your house for a working group on burglary. >> i think congress and adam
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kinzinger deserves the last word here. >> i use the analogy of letting the fox guard the henhouse, but the road runner to work with the coyote for banning ace products. >> we'll be back tomorrow with more "mtp daily." i'm ali velshi with n"msnbc live." the white house douming down the defense of donald trump jr.'s meeting with a kremlin connected lawyer during the campaign. deputy white house press secretary sarah huckabee sanders saying there is nothing wrong with the president's son meeting with the russian lawyer after being promised damaging information on hillary clinton as first reported by "the new york times." >> i've been on several campaigns, and people call offering information. as i know


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