Skip to main content

tv   Politics Nation With Al Sharpton  MSNBC  February 11, 2018 5:00am-6:00am PST

5:00 am
ays to say no. thank you so much. thank you. so we're doing it. yes. start saying yes to your company's best ideas. we help all types of businesses with money, tools and know-how to get business done. american express open. welcome to "politics nation," some say it's a good day when you get mentioned by the son of the president of the united states. well, maybe not always. this week donald trump jr. defended his dad from charges of racism, and claimed that i and other blacks liked donald trump before he got into politics. take a listen. >> i know him. i've seen him my whole life, seen the things he's done. it's amazing, all the rappers,
5:01 am
all the this, all his african-american friends from jesse jackson to al sharpton, pictures with them, we say hi, always been friends. it's only when we got into politics, he's so terrible. he wasn't so terrible a couple years ago. he wasn't so terrible then when you're hitting him up for charity dollars and sponsoring things, doing x, y, z for you guys. >> well, first of all, donald, let's have a correction. i marched on him at central park. i did think that was terrible. and there were times we agreed. but he came to our events, he cut the ribbon at the convention one year. democratic geraldine ferraro who ran for vice president. the question becomes, why did he come to us and stand with us when we were always fighting for voting rights, always fighting
5:02 am
for police reform, always fighting for economic equality? so how was he for us then? then all of a sudden he turns and is for voting rights, not what we should be dealing with, but voter suppression that doesn't exist. and police reform is not right. he flipped the script that he claimed he had changed to after he was wrong with central park five. maybe the reason that we changed our opinion of him is because he changed his stand. they call that integrity, donald jr., not politics. maybe we really bleed what we say. and as far as contributions, i don't know anything about any of them coming to us. but why would he contribute to anybody unless he was claiming to believe it then? was he lying then or is he lying
5:03 am
now? that's where we start our show today, joining me is former democratic governor of pennsylvania ed rendell and republican strategist susan dell. susan, this whole argument, and i don't want to belabor donald trump jr., but the fact is that donald trump has done everything in an i'm going to do what's best for donald trump method. so if democratic work teams supported freddy ferrar i believe in new york, i'll go to al sharpton's convention and then i'll call them names later and i will say the president of the united states barack obama wasn't even born here, and i guess we're supposed to wiggle and become inconsistent with him. >> first, let's say donald trump jr. should not be playing in politics. he's not good at it. he should stop bringing interviews, never brings anything good to the discussion.
5:04 am
to your point about president trump, president trump has never shown any core values in any of these things. he has shown that he likes attention, likes being in the press, likes pop culture. that's where he -- he goes to where he can get the cameras shine the brightest on him. now he's president. he's turned to moving things in pop culture to stir the pot, not on policy, because he really doesn't have a core values when it comes to policy. it's what gets him elected or whatever makes him popular. >> you know, governor, core values, i think is the key here. all of us get our face time on tv. some of us like a lot of media. but we don't like media around the level of just doing anything to get it. it at least should be basically reflecting something that you bleed. and it's somebody that knows donald trump for 35 years, there's no -- in terms of what
5:05 am
do you really believe? one minute, give the death penalty to black kids, next minute, i'll come to your conference, al. the next one minute the president wasn't born here, and he's set up to bug me and have the fbi go after me. the next minute he's saying something else. it's like there's no core beliefs. i really don't think he can handle people that despite whatever flamboyance they say really believe in something. >> he doesn't have core values. he said he loved the dreamers. if he loved the dreamers so much, why did he issue the order ending their stay in america? i mean their protection. he didn't have to do it. nobody forced him to do it. and hillary clinton. he loved hillary so much that he invited hillary and bill clinton to ivanka's wedding. four or five months later, hillary clinton was the worst
5:06 am
person in the world. donald trump is inconsistent. he changes his mind. he has no core values. it's who shouts the loudest at him. it's how he can get the most attention. and it's really mind boggling what goes on. i mean, there's no question in my mind that they knew who the vetting process, that those two front office people in the white house had complaints about domestic abuse. and they took them on anyway. the only time this administration does the right thing is when they get caught. >> and that brings us, susan, to why it should matter to people at home, whether it's their knowledge of abuse of wives, whether it is their knowledge of other things, and you have a president with no core values that will go on either side of any argument, we're dealing with today, this morning, where north korea and south korea is beginning to look like they may be easing toward some kind of
5:07 am
conversations. we're looking at a lot of global problems and challenges. and to have somebody that really will go on either side of any argument, sometimes at the same time, is a real security threat to the country. and it really throws off our allies around the world on what they can depend on. >> absolutely. and take north korea and south korea, like you just mentioned, this morning they're talking about they may have actual talks with each other, formal talks. >> exactly. >> and the story line coming out of that is this is not what the president wants, makes the president of the united states look weak. what's concerning to me is how he reacts to that narrative. that's the dangerous part. now he's not looking for the spotlight, not just twisting and turning for the cameras. this is foreign policy. this is a dangerous time in this world. and we don't know if the president's going to turn because he doesn't like the
5:08 am
press coverage. >> right. >> that is what concerns me very, very much. >> governor, there is also the question of management. when you mentioned the case of two of the white house aides having to leave or resigning this week because of the cases of abuse against their own wives, ex-wives, management. aside from the accusations and allegations, you've been a governor, you've run the democratic party. how do you manage a white house that every other day we're facing an issue that points back to poor to no management? i mean, it's like who's in charge, and what is the m.o. there? >> that's right. this is -- i've never seen any administration like this. when you count the number of people who have been forced to resign, or have been fired because of scandal and
5:09 am
controversy in 14 months, it's stunning. it's absolutely stunning. they didn't do -- they didn't manage the transition, didn't vet very well. they put people in who were purely motivated for themselves, like general flynn. and then the choice of chief of staff, the president didn't respect or listen to reince priebus. he respects general kelly. but general kelly is finding out that running a political operation is not like running a military. and general kelly clearly can't stand criticism. he's been caught in major lies. he attacked a congresswoman for something that was entirely false, and never even apologized. look, the one thing i always told our people and the one thing i did, rev, when we blew it, and we blew it on occasion, i stood up and said we made a mistake, we should have done a, b and c, we're going to correct the mistake, and we're not going to do it again. >> susan, let me get you in
5:10 am
here. we're also dealing with the blatant inconsistency on releasing the nunez memo, and then saying oh, we've got to be careful with the democratic memo in response. we're talking about serious matters here, including possible classified information. again elaborating on governor rendell's point about what is the real method that you are going to run your administration on? what is the basis of how you deal with making decisions there in the west wing with trump? >> i think the problem with this administration right now is that it's all based on a twisted sense of loyalty. that's why michael flynn, the president stood up for him and now is facing potential charges from the mueller investigation. when it came to the nunez memo, to let that even go as far as it did was based on people trying to prove their loyalty to
5:11 am
president trump. that's all he seems to respond to. and that is just fundamentally wrong when you're dealing with issues, especially of national security. let's not kid ourselves. this is all political. neither one of those memos should have been released. it should never have gotten this far. for what reason did he, for the first time in our history, allow this path to be taken? for nothing more than a political document. >> because, governor, there's no real core principle here. you can work with people you disagree with you if there's core principles. the first thing i did when president obama came on, he asked me to go out on the road with newt -- we knew what we believed in. that's why i brought up what i did with donald jr. people that disagree can takes things together and do things
5:12 am
together as long as they believe in, and what they're firm on. do you release stuff or don't release stuff? it's no core values, no core principles. and clearly there's no core way that this administration is operating. >> yeah, i think they believe in only one thing. the president believes in only one thing. it's what's good for the president, politically or in other ways. and that's the determining factor in everything. and it makes it so hard. i have some degree of empathy for people who work in the white house. because it makes it so hard because you don't know what the president's thinking. you don't know what he watched on tv in the morning. he doesn't get to the office till 11:00 in the morning. he sends out tweets that sometimes are absolutely baffling what he's talking about. and it's hard to be a member of the team because there's no clear message from the team
5:13 am
leader. except do what's right for me. the times that donald trump says me, as opposed to the country, is absolutely stunning. >> yeah, you can't score touchdowns if you keep moving the goal line. and the goal line ends up being a photo of the team leader. >> absolutely. >> thank you very much, governor rendell and susan dell percio. next, i'll ask the president of the national urban league to give his thoughts on the state of black america in the era of donald trump. later, just five days away from the opening of the movie "black panther." some say this movie is for film, what barack obama was for the president. this is "politics nation" on msnbc.
5:14 am
ancestrydna is only $69. and now, with more than 150 ethnic regions to connect to...'s the perfect time to find out where your greatness comes from. save 30% at
5:15 am
♪ if you wear a denture, you not only want a clean feeling every day, you want your denture to be stain free. did you know there's a specialty cleanser that's gentle enough for everyday use and cleans better than regular toothpaste? try polident cleanser. it has a four in one cleaning system that kills ten times more odor causing bacteria than regular toothpaste, deep cleans where brushing may miss, helps remove tough stains, and maintains the original color of your dentures when used daily. for a cleaner, fresher, brighter denture, use polident every day.
5:16 am
we all want to know you know, the new, new thing. with xfinity's retail stores, you can now see the latest. want to test drive the latest devices? be our guest. want to save on mobile? just ask. want to demo the latest innovations and technology? do it here. come see how we're making things simple, easy, and awesome. plus come in today and ask about xfinity mobile, a new kind of network designed to save you money. visit your local xfinity store today.
5:17 am
welcome back, black history month is an annual celebration of achievements by african-americans, and for a time for recognizing the central role blacks in american history played. in today's political climate led by a president who sees all too often willfully ignorant of and insensitive to the concerns of black americans, their vo sacats of what is happening in washington are lost.
5:18 am
with me now is the president and ceo of the national urban league. >> good morning, reverend. >> good morning. mark, the state of black america, the urban league puts out a report every year, you're starting a podcast tomorrow, i think that unless we have the context that we make the wrong judgments, and i think that a lot of americans don't have the context, when you hear the president saying, well, black unemployment is lower than it's ever been, which really started under president obama, but it is still double unemployed to whites. the context is not there. >> well -- >> straighten out where we are in black america. >> well, president trump's line should have been and black unemployment is lower than it's ever been, thank you, president obama. >> right. >> the truth is that black unemployment under president obama plunged from about 16% down to 7.8%. so he cut it in half from the times of the great recession. and that context, in terms of
5:19 am
the economy that president trump inherited should always be part of the narrative. but you're right, but there's also something else. in addition to double the unemployment rate of whites, blacks face, like many whites, and latinos, but disproportionately blacks face this the fact that they paycheck doesn't go as far as is used to go. wage stagnation, income inequality. people's check doesn't buy the necessities of life. that's a reality now. my economic goal has to deal with that. the other thing, black americans have been incredibly resilient, tremendously successful in many respects, but still face struggles. we have to lift up the contributions we've made to the arts, media, business, politics, to civic affairs, not only
5:20 am
nationally but at the local level across the country. >> that's what we celebrate. for so long it was excluded. let me ask you this. i'm going to ask you two things, putting you on the spot. we work together, i can take liberty of doing this. last two or three administrations, all of us have, including george bush, been able to talk to people and have access to making our points, even though in my case i would lead marches and all where i disagreed. you'd participate in ways that you would disagree. so you had under bill clinton everyone from minion moore in the white house, or under george bush, he spoke at the urban league and met with all of us. under president obama we all had meetings several times a year. >> there has always been under
5:21 am
this administration. >> who is the person in this administration, i know omarosa has been fired, this is the first time time i can remember that the white house has no accessibility to the civil rights leadership at all. >> this has been one of the least diverse white house staff in modern american history. and it's been -- >> is there a black on the west wing? >> i'm not sure. i'm not aware of anybody african-american. >> you're saying you is the president -- i know i'm an outlier in terms of that, but you is the president of the national urban league, hosted republican and democratic presidents, you can't name a black on the west wing. >> i cannot at this time name an african-american on the staff. >> as the head of the national urban league, do you know a black that was an executive in the trump organization? >> no, not at all. >> and you work in the corporate world. >> and i'm not aware, if there was one -- >> no ex-black trump --
5:22 am
>> i do not know that his business organization or his white house organization has been diverse in any respects. you know, george bush the father, george bush the son both the two prior republican presidents had african-americans on their staff. it wasn't at the level we like. but there were african-americans. here's the important thing. when we disagreed with george w. bush on education or katrina, there was a dialogue with george w. bush, always with bill clinton, always with barack obama. i think the civil rights leadership of this country has an important role to play as part of the moral compass of this nation in these challenging and difficult times. the relationship with the president directly, which troubled me about the president, mainly is that the president seems to be into sterotypes about black america. i think he needs to take a half a day, go to the african-american museum, sit down and educate himself about
5:23 am
the contributions of african-americans. >> yeah. >> it would be good for him, and good for the nation. >> again, i don't want to be misunderstood here. we're not asking to talk -- he did call me, as you know, and asked to meet, and i told him i would only meet with all of us could meet. it's not about a meeting or access. it's about how he conducts this country's business. >> it's not about symbolism. we're talking about the president. we went in and had a conversation with the attorney general. i've had conversations with the secretary of labor and the secretary of hud. we're talking about the president of the united states here. i think that in black history month, we need to reaffirm that every administration, whether it be democratic or republican, needs to reflect the make-up, not just of once, quote, political supporters, but should represent the make-up of the nation. that is a basic value we all share, i think. >> thank you very much were being with me this morning, mark. and tomorrow the national urban league is launching a podcast
5:24 am
named "for the movement," check it out, good luck to you, mark. >> thank you, reverend. still ahead, it's the action movie gaining hype like we haven't seen in years. what is the secret appeal of "black panther"? we'll be back. sfx: muffled whistle text alert. i'm your phone, stuck down here between your seat and your console, playing a little hide-n-seek. cold... warmer... warmer... ah boiling. jackpot. and if you've got cut-rate car insurance, you could be picking up these charges yourself. so get allstate, where agents help keep you protected from mayhem... me.
5:25 am
mayhem is everywhere. are you in good hands? that goes beyond assuming beingredients are safe...ood to knowing they are. going beyond expectations... because our pets deserve it. beyond. natural pet food.
5:26 am
we know that when you're spending time with the grandkids every minute counts. and you don't have time for a cracked windshield. that's why we show you exactly when we'll be there. saving you time, so you can keep saving the world. >> kids: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace ♪
5:27 am
did you know there's a world of miracles inside our bodies? for example, your eyes can see ten million shades of color. sometimes, all you need to do is look up. we can hear thousands of sounds from 20 hertz to 20,000 hertz. our bodies can withstand temperatures around 60 degrees centigrade. our tongues can differentiate 100,000 different tastes. nice! our noses can distinguish more than a trillion scents. knowing each one of them - that's the tough part. get out there. explore. see. smell. hear. taste. touch. widen your world.
5:28 am
february's been so busy, i apologize for just now getting to my first gotcha, dedicated to black history month. but i'm just in time to give you the folks at home an update on the willful ignorance that always seems to bubble up at this time of year. let's start, where else, but at the white house, where this week the trump administration issued a press release naming the three members of its frederick douglas bicentennial commission. a nice gesture, sure, if you can overlook douglass being spelled with just one "s," instead of the correct two.
5:29 am
i guess the president needed that extra "s." for more fun with the alphabet, there was the story from queens out of new york that a high school honor student requested to have the name malcolm x printed on his senior sweater. administrators were not having it, one allegedly saying, quote, that's someone i don't want to be associated with. the best part of it, and by best i mean worst, this honor student's name is malcolm xavier combs. if you can't respect brother malcolm, whose message evolved as did the man himself, you should at least respect the right of parents to name their child whatever they want. might not be so bad if this year's black history month hadn't kicked off with the report from the southern poverty law center that found only 8% of
5:30 am
1,000 surveyed high school seniors will go out into the world unable to identify slavery as the main cause of the civil war. but this is precisely the kind of ignorance that the detractors of black history month like to trade in, either for political gain or personal comfort. the more you know, the more you think. and as dr. king said, nothing pains some people more than having to think. but to those people, i've got something for your pain. an old black remedy called i gotcha. can one medicine help treat both blood sugar and cardiovascular risk? i asked my doctor. he told me about non-insulin victoza®. victoza® is not only proven to lower a1c and blood sugar, but for people with type 2 diabetes
5:31 am
treating their cardiovascular disease, victoza® is also approved to lower the risk of major cv events such as heart attack, stroke, or death. and while not for weight loss, victoza® may help you lose some weight. (announcer) victoza® is not for people with type 1 diabetes or diabetic ketoacidosis. do not take victoza® if you have a personal or family history of medullary thyroid cancer, multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2, or if you are allergic to victoza® or any of its ingredients. stop taking victoza® and get medical help right away if you get a lump or swelling in your neck or symptoms of a serious allergic reaction such as rash, swelling, difficulty breathing, or swallowing. serious side effects may happen, including pancreatitis. so stop taking victoza® and call your doctor right away if you have severe pain in your stomach area. tell your doctor your medical history. gallbladder problems have happened in some people. tell your doctor right away if you get symptoms. taking victoza® with a sulfonylurea or insulin may cause low blood sugar. common side effects are nausea, diarrhea, vomiting, decreased appetite, indigestion, and constipation. side effects can lead to dehydration, which may cause kidney problems.
5:32 am
change the course of your treatment. ask your doctor about victoza®. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ there'swhatever type ofhe end of eweekender you are,ton. don't let another weekend pass you by. get the lowest price when you book at ythen you turn 40 ande everything goes. tell me about it. you know, it's made me think, i'm closer to my retirement days than i am my college days. hm. i'm thinking... will i have enough? should i change something? well, you're asking the right questions. i just want to know, am i gonna be okay? i know people who specialize in "am i going to be okay." i like that.
5:33 am
you may need glasses though. yeah. schedule a complimentary goal planning session today with td ameritrade. i've been meaoh no.o talk to you. well, you know, you're getting older. um, you might be experiencing some, ah, sensations. can't wait to be rescued? esurance roadside assistance lets you know when help will arrive. that's insurance for the modern world. esurance. click or call.
5:34 am
this week children of all ages will celebrate the global phenomenon that is marvel studio's "black panther," the film's unprecedented depiction of a cutting edge african nation ruled by a larger than life king and superhero has propelled advanced ticket sales past all other superhero films in modern history. it doesn't hit the theaters until friday. helping this history get made is new york philanthropist frederick joseph who first
5:35 am
issued what has become the "black panther" challenge, starting with his gofundme campaign to send kids from the boys and girls club of harlem to see the film for free. the campaign became a social media movement with co-signs and contributions from celebrities including jamel hill, chelsea clinton, snoop dawg, and ellen degeneres. it's the largest campaign in gofundme history, with joseph's own campaign raising more than $40,000. i got to meet with mr. joseph and the kids at the boys and girls club in harlem earlier this week. let me ask you this, frederick. we've seen a black president. >> yeah. >> and you've seen the videos of
5:36 am
the kids seeing that they're going to see this movie, and they just go crazy, out of their mind. >> uh-huh. >> what is so special about a black superhero to them? >> a black president is amazing. but for a lot of these kids, a black president doesn't resonate with them the same way a black superhero can. a black superhero can save the entire world. a black superhero can jump over buildings, can go to space and change the world all over. >> when i was growing up, i looked at superman more than i did john kennedy or lyndon johnson. >> exactly. >> the character like black panther, not like the rest of the other typical superheroes. he's different. i feel like the president, the first african-american president, like he probably started more mose vativational things. if he wasn't to become president we wouldn't have a black panther
5:37 am
movie. >> how do you feel about the black women that are powerful in this film? >> it's making me feel really good. it would be a message for all the women out there who are dreaming like one day i want to have, like, power. it would be like yes, why not me? i can have it too. >> this film, in this story black women are at the precipice of greatness. they are the warriors, the protectors of this nation, they are the fiercest warriors in there. that's big for imagery for young black girls and black women. >> that takes care of the kids. why is this so historic for adults? >> i think that especially in the political and cultural times we're in, being so -- people need something to rally around. adults are latching on because it's giving them a chance to let their hair down in what is a very, very interesting time. >> are you going to dress up
5:38 am
like the characters? which character are you -- >> i'm not going to dress up, but i'll definitely be wearing all black. >> all black. >> yup. >> who here wants to play the black panther video game. i don't have one. when you started, did you ever imagine it could pick up like this? >> i'm pretty confident that it would do this, not necessarily. i'm happy it has. it just shows the hunger for, you know, stories like this, black stories. it shows that the community will rally behind things that are quality, genuine work pertaining to our culture. thanks again to frederick joseph. and to the boys and girls club of harlem for having us. and as i said, the -- they've rallied behind "black panther" portrayal of technology.
5:39 am
the funding that makes companies like facebook and twitter possible can feel like a comic book showdown. joining me now is robert hartzville, jr. president of the social media conversation at spoke hub, and john york, spoke hub's chief operating officer. thank you both for being with me. >> thanks for having us. >> thank you. >> as we look at the whole challenge now of technology, and we see what has been done around the black panther film with gofundme, it brought to my mind what you guys do. because we still are trying to get there in terms of start-up companies in the tech industry. where we made advances, had a black president and now a super black hero film, technology is helping to fund kids going to see. what about the tech business,
5:40 am
start-up of blacks? tell me the challenges you're facing. >> that's a good question, and thank you so much for having us. in the beginning, right, it was how do we get this idea and make it where it's not something that's just in our backyard? how do we take this on a global perspective and start inspiring the next generation? we were extremely fortunate, extremely blessed to be able to raise capital pretty early on here in durham, north carolina, and start the movement and getting folks rallied around the technology. more importantly, you know, the problem that we're solving, which is true engagement, something that as we look to say, how do we bring people together around events and topics and something we're excited about, and really excited it's happening in durham, north carolina as well. >> how did you raise the money, j john? >> we raised the money in house with our own people and within our community. we were from durham, north carolina. we're raised here. we went and reached out and went to the communities. we sat down with the black
5:41 am
people here in our community and we pitched to them. and they came behind us and they supported us. >> so here we are black history month, which is why i wanted to emphasize that, and the "black panther" movie today, and you are young guys in the south and you went in your own community and raised the money to start a start-up in technology. you're not just reading black history, you're making black history. so you're saying that people that have ideas can reach inside their community and do something and get the support? >> absolutely. that's exactly what it's about. i mean, you know, having the idea that really watching the support that we've received here in our own backyard has been humbling and a true blessing. my advice is this, if you've got that idea, make your idea loud and make it great. make sure you continue to propel this thing forward. the one thing i've seen in our
5:42 am
own backyard is that village coming together, saying we want to help and push, and push this forward. i will take it a step further, our goal is to inspire the next generation of entrepreneurs. this is great, but there are a lot of ideas behind us. folks can say i've got an idea and all we're doing is help build that blueprint and take on the next generation of entrepreneurs that are our sons and daughters and nieces and nephews. >> this idea came, i was actually at a high school basketball game and the idea came because a student received a technical foul for apologizing to the ref. i go to social media outlets and i realize that the people who were at that event weren't actually following me and they wouldn't really understand what i was talking about. they wouldn't understand the true feelings that i had in that moment. i almost didn't start the company because i was a little bit afraid. i feel that, especially going to
5:43 am
see "black panther," this movie is inspirational. and we're trying to be an inspiration to the next generation. >> that's right. >> look at chad wick boseman, he's already played four other superheroes. this is his fifth. jesse owens, jackie robinson. >> james brown. >> thurgood marshall. >> don't forget james brown. >> can't forget james brown. >> that's right, that's right. >> these are all superheroes, motivations for us to look up to and we want to be the same for the next generation to look up to us as well. >> we want to be superheroes for entertainers, those that are athletes, but in business and technology, which is where business is going today. that's why i wanted you on to talk about this with the superhero. i've learned -- i do instagram inspiration message on instagram every morning. i may be getting old.
5:44 am
>> do the inspirational message in spoke hub. >> i'll take you up on that. thank you, robert and john. up next, the one super bowl ad that sparked controversy. be right back. ♪ ♪ there are two types of people in the world. those who fear the future... and those who embrace it. the future is for the unafraid. ♪ ♪ the future is for the unafraid. alright, i brought in high protein to help get us moving. ...and help you feel more strength and energy in just two weeks! i'll take that. -yeeeeeah! ensure high protein. with 16 grams of protein and 4 grams of sugar. ensure. always be you.
5:45 am
5:46 am
5:47 am
there'swhatever type ofhe end of eweekender you are,ton. don't let another weekend pass you by. get the lowest price when you book at
5:48 am
as fans of the philadelphia eagles celebrate their first super bowl win, reaction is still pouring in about a commercial getting attention for all the wrong reasons. i'm talking about dodge using the immortal words of dr. martin luther king jr. to sell a pickup truck. take a listen. >> if you want to be important, wonderful. if you want to be recognized, wonderful. if you want to be great, wonderful. but recognize that he who is greatest among you shall be your servant. that's the new definition of greatness. >> after backlash for using the passage from one of dr. king's sermons, a statement from the king of state was released saying, quote, we found that the
5:49 am
overall message of the ad embodied dr. king's philosophy that true greatness is achieved by serving others. here to explain the controversy is national politics reporter for the boston globe ashstead hurn don. i was offended by using dr. king's sermon as a way to sell trucks. and immediately i must say reverend bernice king, his daughter, and martin luther king his son say they did not approve of this and didn't know anything about it. notwithstanding that, the fact that you would use this sermon, that also denounced, by the way, buying cars that you couldn't afford, as a way of the selling and the -- really trying to get people to buy your product is something that didn't sit well with a lot of us.
5:50 am
>> yeah, it was pretty shocking. i can toell you at the place i was watching the super bowl, there was a loud gasp that was let out when it became clear this was a dodge ram are upset f reasons, as you said, dr. king was the idea of using dr. king's words which were specifically about racial and economic justice, things that are very serious matters and things that he oriented his life around, the idea of using that to sell something in general, is something that people are very uncomfortable with, something that i certainly understand the shock to. the second part, the message, which was used from dodge ram, they are using a sermon in which he specifically denounced some of those capitalistic traits when they seem to be employing here. that message denounced car m commercials and as a way of valuing their self-worth.
5:51 am
to co-opt those words to sell a product, is something that sent a lot of people looking side ways to say -- for lack of a better term at dodge. >> well, you know, one of the things i thought about as you know i became youth director of the new york chapter dr. king's organization and i was 13 the year he was killed, is it that his last year or so, his emphasis was on economic accountabili accountability, corporations doing business with black businesses. if dodge wants to go down that road, we need to look at, well, do you do business with black businesses? do you bank in black banks and use your pension fund with black managers and do you advertise with black advertising firms, if you're going to use dr. king's voice, why don't you do what dr. king said. when we look at chrysler and dodge in terms of business practices, sounds like they need to listen to dr. king's speeches
5:52 am
rather than use them to sell their cars. >> that was a theme that was happening overall with super bowl. we've seen this on something like dr. king, the national holiday, people cherry picking a certain portion of the message and trying to use that for their own ends. but as you said, this was a man who was very specific in what he called for and what he thought were important. it was a message of not only unity, which is what a lot of people want to talk about, but there was also a message of justice, racial justice, economic justice and this was someone who is speaking out against wars that he found to be intolerable. this was a person who made those things and organized his life around those things and so when you look at dodge and look at other companies which are trying to only cherrypick a certain portion of that message, i think your question is a fair one. if you're going to go down that road and use martin luther king's words to sell a product,
5:53 am
let's look at your overall practices. let's see if you are orienting your business around racial justice, around economic justice and we know that once we have that kind of harder examination, a lot of these companies don't pass that test. so for a lot of people it seems disingenuous to use words to sell something when at the heart, when it comes to the bottom line, those actions aren't matching it. >> if they match the actions they could really defend the questions but when you don't match the actions, whether you're donald trump or chrysler, then you only raise our attention even more to be suspicious of you using something in an exploitive matter. thank you very much. >> thank you so much. i appreciate it. >> up next, my final thoughts. why create something this extravagant? or make a back seat that feels nothing like a back seat?
5:54 am
why give it every feature you could want, along with a few you didn't know you needed? it's simple. you can build a car, or you can build a cadillac. come in now for this exceptional offer on the cadillac ct6. get this low-mileage lease on this 2018 cadillac ct6 from around $549 per month. visit your local cadillac dealer. if you have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis,49 per month. little things can be a big deal. that's why there's otezla. otezla is not an injection or a cream. it's a pill that treats psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable after just 4 months, ... with reduced redness, thickness, and scaliness of plaques.
5:55 am
and the otezla prescribing information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring. don't use if you're allergic to otezla. otezla may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. tell your doctor if these occur. otezla is associated with an increased risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts, or if these feelings develop. some people taking otezla reported weight loss. your doctor should monitor your weight and may stop treatment. other side effects include upper respiratory tract infection and headache. tell your doctor about all the medicines you take and if you're pregnant or planning to be. ♪ otezla. show more of you.
5:56 am
don't we need that cable box to watch tv? nope. don't we need to run? nope. it just explodes in a high pitched 'yeahhh.' yeahhh! try directv now for $10 a month for 3 months. no satellite needed.
5:57 am
as i started dealing with those that would question what we do during this age of trump, including his son, they need to really understand, there has been a history of struggle from the days of slavery to the days of reconstruction and the backlash and era of segregation
5:58 am
and fight against that and fight for right to vote and on and on. some of us doing with different tactics and ways but standing up for the self-affirmation of who we are as human beings equal that god made and created us from the beginning. and no temporary friend or foe should get in the way of that historic thread. and all races, white, black, latino, asian, everybody, lgbtq, women, everybody ought to be part of that flow because the fight for anybody is the fight for everybody. and joining in our fight is joining in your fight. that's why this is more important than who you get along with or who you have access to. because it is continuing a link in history.
5:59 am
six years ago this month a young man was killed in sanford, florida, named trayvon martin. i and others were at the forefront student leaders and others making that a national issue and on and on until eric garner and others today because we understand it's not about an incident, it's about a history sean resisting wrong. whether it's against blacks, whether it's against women or whether it's against gays, whether it's against latinos, immigrants, asians. we got to fulfill our time in history. otherwise, history will record that we drop the ball and became cowards when we were the heirs of courage and people that showed it. that does it for me. thanks for watching. i'll see you back here next
6:00 am
sunday. now to my colleague alex witt. >> i get a little bit of religion every sunday morning as i wait for you to toss the show to me. >> thank you, alex. >> i'm alex witt, we're approaching 9:00 a.m. in the east, 6:00 a.m. out west. we do have breaking news to share. a passenger plane crashed in russia, we're going to get you details in just a few minutes, also backlash, facing new criticism after his apparent defense of exstaffers accused of domestic abuse allegations. what are republicans saying about the latest tweet? >> it actually gives point by point we the republican memo is -- has a lot of false assertions and also in general just leads the reader into a false direction. >> what's the holdup? new theories on why they won't release the memo. will the public ever see it and if so,


info Stream Only

Uploaded by TV Archive on