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trump looking to replac replace retiring justice anthony kennedy and also we'll talk to senator mike lee. meanwhile, senators on both sides of the aisle trying to win over republican senators susan collins on the left and lisa murkowski on the right of your screen seen as key swing senators. collins spoke about the partisan nature to pick a supreme court justice. >> they're already lining up, either in opposition or in strong support for a nominee who has not yet been chosen. that i have never seen before to this extent. >> joining me now is nbc's kelly o'donnell live at the white house. kelly, just a few days to go before the president meets his self-imposed deadline on monday of naming a supreme court justice nominee. he said he has five names. there does seem to be seven on the list plus mike lee, what are
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you hearing? >> reporter: the president at one point used the number five. then said it might be six or seven. then when you have a potential candidate like mike lee, the senator from utah, republican, of course, who does have a lot of legal respect in the community, it shows us that there's a little elasticity in this process. at the same time, the president has put this deadline on himself, in order to have the announcement and the early sort of fallout, or celebration, depending on how people view the selection that he makes, before he takes his next overseas trip. so, that's part of how he's bracketing the timing. of course, it's fourth of july. and there are fireworks on everyone's minds and it certainly plays into the supreme court selection process. so, of the list, of course, was whittled down from a much larger list that the president had published as a candidate. it's been revised to date over time. what's key over time are jurists
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who have been vetted at least in the wide ranging sense of other cases they have. ruled on, their legal writings, their personal background. sort of a vetting process from a conservative legal point of view, giving the president a funnel from which to pick a potential candidate, a nominee, who would not be under assault from conservatives. >> yeah. >> reporter: and yet now, that's still happening as susan collins said. >> this is an interesting group, vetted by groups like the federalist society. based on what they say, their judgments where they stand on important motors like roe v. wade. the white house said the president won't ask judges how they'll vote on things like roe v. wade. that is a slight of hand because the president will be generally speaking on what their opinions or. >> reporter: that's true. and also when there would be any challenge in the future it would be a new case that would rise to the supreme court.
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there would be additional facts so it's impossible to know exactly how that would work its way through the base court. but on the baseline, these are conservatives who have publicly or on related rulings given us their opinions of their views on this. where the issue of abortion rights is central where they're going at this. there's also political overtones. one of the nominees, potential nominee, has ties to the bush family having worked here in washington. in the trump world, that goes against you. so there are all kinds of ways that the potential choices are being put through the meat grinder. once in the court, they're a little more separate than the day-to-day political fights. but this will be a brutal fight. >> lisa murkowski and susan collins, republicans who may vote against those with a strong line against abortion.
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and there are at least three democrats who might vote with the president's nominees. donellley, manchin from west. >> reporter: and heidi heitkamp. >> so it's not as it looks. >> reporter: hardly, and the margin is so narrow, looking at those three republicans they did vote for neil gorsuch, so the president is counting on support. when you're looking at senators flake and corker who are retiring they have on other federal judges where the senate has a confirmation rule, they are willing to test the boundaries of their colleagues' willingness to work on things like tariffs. >> yes. >> reporter: but so far, jeff
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flake in particular is saying he's not going to apply that power that each individual senator has to the supreme court. the country is going to benefit from the fact that both susan collins and lisa murkowski have long been swing votes in the republican party, meaning they have felt the red hot spectacle around them and they have reveled on that in the past which makes them well-positioned to hold their ground and be thoughtful in the process as they see forward. >> kelly, a good standing on where we see it richt now. one of the issues facing the high court, the state of same-sex marriage laws and what would happen in the clock was turned back. same-sex marriage was legalized nationwide by this historic 2015 ruling. but if it were overturned, things would revert to a patchwork where people's rights change depending on where they live. at the state level, gay marriage would be fully legal in 36
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states. all. states shown in green. if you live in one of those states your rights basically don't change. but 13 states have either constitutional or legislative bans. those are the ones shown in red. in those states you could stand to lose protections and rights that come with the legal marriage. missouri, highlighted in yellow here, does allow same-sex marriages through judicial order, but before 2015, only st. louis irked marriage licenses to same-sex couples. now, if you live in one of the states that either bans gay marriage or largely doesn't issue licenses, it's unclear if your marriage would be grandfathered in. if it were not grandfathered in, or you weren't yet married, you'd lose a wrath of protections throughout life with your partner. for instance, federal survivor benefits from social security. federal worker pensions could be lost. putting ed determine same-sex couples at serious financial risk that heterosexual couples do not face. adoptions would become an issue.
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without a valid marriage, only one parent would be able to adopt a child. in which case, the parent not rec sieognized as a legal garde would lose custody rights. medical partners, if your partner falls ill you may not be able to make medical decisions on their behalf. health care for smame-sex coupls those on their coverage plan could lose their coverage instantly. and loamong the legal privilege lost, spousal privilege. you cannot testify against their spouse regarding private communications. think of it as attorney/client privilege in a marriage. all of these rights that heterosexual couples take for granted could be nullified with one supreme court vote. joining me now is human rights legal campaign sarah warable. we're trying to figure out the
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most important thing for people living in those states where there were not strong same-sex laws prior to the ruling would their marriages be grandfathered in or not, do you have a belief in that? >> yes, i don't want people to panic and think that anything is going to happen to their marriages, at least with this particular supreme court nominee and the makeup of the court. what we're really worried about is the chipping away of rights under marriage. justice gorsuch has already made clear in post-marriage equality world that he doesn't think that two moms have to be listed on a birth certificate or two dads. and it's this creation of skin-milk marriage that's really at risk for lgbt families and couples around the country. >> i guess to the question, all right, i appreciate that you don't want people to panic. if i were involved in a same-sex
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marriage in one of those states, i just want to know, do i have to move to a different state? and why would i not think that a state like kentucky would revert to what was the case before the 2015 law? >> certainly, there may be challenges. we know that there are legislators around the country who don't want to recognize the full humanity and equality of lgbt people. star redeceaisiredecisis. what your rights are truly to be at risk. we know there are affiliated hospitals that want to say we don't recognize same-sex marriages. it's in conflict with our vision. we shouldn't have to allow visitation rights. or we shouldn't be able to allow same-sex couples to make medical
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decisions for their spouse. >> sarah warbelow is the legal director for human rights campaign. children are still separated from their parents and detained by the u.s. government. where the kids are now and the families put through the heartbreak. and on this independence day, it's emma lazarus who penned the poem inscribed on the statue of liberty. lazarus worked as a writer and translator and focused on political issues including civil war and immigration. in 1883, she wrote the most famous poem about the statue of liberty who she calls "the mother of exiles" whose torch glows worldwide welcome. the most popular line "give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe.
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i.c.e. is giving out this form which is supposed to be given when they've been rejected and given final orders of removal. but some are saying some are given the form essentially forcing deportation before a decision is made on asylum. 2,047 last week children separated from their parents were in custody. we don't have a number because the government is no longer providing updates on how many children is being held. instead, it's giving the total amount of children under health and human services care at 11,000. joining me mariana atencio who sat down with a mom from el salvador looking for her sons for almost two months. tell us about this woman. >> i want you to this woman who came here in a caravan. her intention was to turnle
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herself in they did that with marcus her son 10 and the 2-year-old. she was given ten minutes to say good-bye to the buy boys before i.c.e. official said they have come to the kids. she was sent to otah mesa facility. and of kids were sent to new york. she was released on $10,000 bond and almost impossible to get the children back. the hardest thing, ali, she's been able to speak to the 2-year-olds twice in almost two months. >> reporter: i am very scared. because i don't know how they will react. they're already traumatized from the moment the separation happened.
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the older boy could doubt them actually doing anything to get him back. i want to know if they're okay, they're being treated well. even though he says, mom, i'm okay. but i don't really know. because i have know they're with people i don't know. i know my children. i know what they like, what they don't like. and i don't know how these people are treating them. >> now, this case is an anomaly, almost, because this woman is an asylum seeker, so it really doesn't fall into zero tolerance. >> right. >> because she didn't break the
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law by crossing the border illegally. we reached out to i.c.e. for comment on the case but we haven't gotten answer yet. she's been asked for dna samples, fingerprints of everyone in the home. everyone is legal where she's staying at. pay stubs, books or equipment but she's given no indication if or when she's going to get her kids back. >> well, you're an attorney. i think we've muddied the waters here -- or the president has muddied the waters in the last few months. it's not illegal to be asylum seeker at all? >> not at all. everyone has that legal right. >> they're claiming not to be adjudicated -- >> right, but even somebody who has an order of deportation against them you still have a right to claim asylum. when you mention the $10,000 bond that's an extraordinarily high bond for someone in this position. typically, those bonds $1,000 to
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1 the $1500. i think the administration has high hurdles -- >> why -- >> so it makes it harder for them to make plans for humanitarian relief. when we're talking about claims for asylum, it's not just a violation of humanitarian relief. it's a violation of due process. it's a violation of national law. gets into the u.n. high commission. >> trump said we don't have to have due process for these. >> right. >> also, when you look at mike pence who was in guatemala last weanin week, he went on national television and told people seek asylum the legal way. that's exactly what this woman is doing. i agree with you, $10,000. we spoke with them and that is exorbitantly high. i said how did you manage to pay for it? she said the whole family has borrowed money. they've gone into debt.
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>> these people have come from places where you earn $10 a day. >> exactly. people should apply for asylum at home. promoting this idea of deterrence. that contradicts u.s. law. because the requirement of asylum it requires physical presence at the border at the united states. you cannot apply for asylum in guatemala or el salvador. you have to be here. i think that is a myth they're promoting to deter people from coming. one thing we learned, even in the obama administration when they had their asylum issue with migrants, people are fleeing for their lives. >> mariana, you talked to so many families. it's just horrible. you talked to the mothers. we don't get to interview the little kids. you and i spoke to two psychiatrists it's like taking a child's air away. putting them on a plane, to a state many hours away.
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kids who have never been on a plane before. who in maybe cases don't even speak spanish. they might speak an indigenous language. does this speak to deterrence? >> i asked her, would you have come, if you had known this happened, with some consistency all said i would have thought it much more had i known this. nobody leaves your home country. this woman had a business, a family. you don't do it unless you have to. and thinking at least my children have a chance here. your international right to seek asylum is what makes this so strong and muddled and confusing. remember, the administration has a deadline, that injunction to reunite the family. this woman has a 2-year-old. now there's a deadline of 15 days to be reunited. >> from last week. >> and what we're coming up on this week, july 6th there's a status hearing on that
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injunction where both parties have to face the judge and show what measures they have taken towards unification. >> i suspect we start getting numbers from the government that they haven't been able to do this. >> right. >> thank you to you both. mariana thank you for your remarkable reporting. please don't stop. everything you get, we'll put on tv. should we arm our teachers. we're zdigging into the debate with teachers at the shooting range. 215,000 students have survived shootings at 217 schools nationwide. more on that coming back. you're watching msnbc. how can we say when you book direct at choicehotels.com you always get the lowest price on our rooms, guaranteed? let's say it in a really low voice. carl? lowest price, guaranteed.
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all right. welcome back. here are the top stories we're watching right now. 31 people were killed when a ferry sank in indonesia. video caught them escaping and jumping into the water. they saved more than 100 passengers but three are missing and presumed drown. the spring wildfire in california has destroyed homes. 60 act wildfires are burning across the west today. president trump reportedly
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pressed top aides over the possibility of invading venezuela. the associated press reports the president suggests military options to removing nicolas maduro from office last august. stunned advisers took turns explaining to the president how military action could back fire. the trump administration is rolling back obama era guidelines on affirm tiff action. the federal government said schools will no longer use race in the admissions process. senate leader mitch mcconnell says there's very little congress can do to avoid mass shootings. he told an audience i don't think at the federal level there's much we can do own appropriate funds. he added school security is the most likely way schools can stop shooting. let's not forget, according to the gun archives, 41 students were killed in shootings this
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year. 68 more injured. president trump says arming teachers is a conclusion to preventing these tragedies. nbc's digital anja pinella takes us there. >> reporter: in the wake of the shooting at marjory stoneman douglas high school, national attention turned to an issue. arming teachers. >> i'll be facing the sun. >> reporter: one of the main organizations providing medical and firearm training to teachers is faster saves lives. a nonprofit based in ohio that's been training school staff members since 2013. >> every occupation i can think of in a school we've trained. the administrators. the secretaries. i.t. people. librarians, lunch ladies. we've trained multiple elementary school petite females would ever look at and think
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this is a gun person. >> even people who say we don't want guns in our schools, well, when that happens, you're calling the police, and you're hoping they bring guns. that's how we protect ceos, hollywood celebrities. elected officials. even the stinking bag of money at the mall is protected by a guy with a gun. >> reporter: in the event of a school attacker of identity of these trainers who also work in education have been kept anonymous. in some parts of the u.s., schools have been arming teachers for as many as five years since the aftermath of the shooting at sandy hook elementary school. >> the day we got ourselves in a firearm is the day that because now we have a way to protect ourselves. a way to protect our students. whereas, before, the only thing i would have had was to use my body to shield the shooting. >> reporter: in these school districts not only do the teachers have access to guns
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they're trained to take out the shooter and treated injured before police arrive. >> once staff had to evaluate the ability to have the mind-set to be part of the team is the question that involved, if you're part of this team and you have to address or confront an active shooter and the active shooter is a student that you know really well. maybe a parent or fellow staff member that you have a great relationship with, would you be able to address that threat? >> reporter: in the aftermath of the shooting at sandy hook, there were some people who felt that the right answer was to arm teachers. but i remember thinking at the time, what were the odds that one of us is going to have the presence of mind to know where in the building this person is, to have the weapon available right there. to ignore the kid we were in charge of, then go to, to try to in one minute in the chaos of a school shooting be arresting officer, judge, jury, executioner, right there in the middle of the school. >> if i have to make that
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terminating shot of that person, if it is one of my students, i guess i'll cross that britch when it comes. at least i know i'll be protecting the rest of my other students. >> it's an interesting story. with me is sarah learner, a teacher at marjory stoneman douglas high school in parkland, florida. sarah, thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> sarah, there are a lot of issues about arming teachers. i want to address a few of them. first of all, the teacher we just heard in the story said that we'd have to ignore the students we're in charge of. a number of teachers have told me their first instinct is to protect their students. while shooting an assailant is protecting the students. making sure they're safer behind closed doors is a different thing than chasing down an assailant? >> absolutely.
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and i don't believe that a gun in my classroom would have protected me that day if the shooter had entered my building. it would have been locked somewhere in my classroom where i wasn't. and by the time i would have accessed it, i would have been dead. so it wouldn't have done me any good. and then all of my students would be left vulnerable. >> and the other issue that teachers have mentioned to us is, okay, you can train as a shooter, but there is a chance in that mayhem that you end up shooting innocent students which is something where sort of a teacher's brain isn't wired? >> no, not at all. i didn't go to college to become a police officer. i went to college to become an english and journalism teacher. there are too many unknown variables with weapons being in the care of teachers at school. and if a student got ahold of the gun and harmed themselves or someone else or me. or, you know, am i liable for
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that? like there are too many -- there are too many unknowns for me to feel safe. having a weapon. in my classroom. >> right. and that thought, am i liable for it, it could mean the one second that it takes to make the decision. the last teacher in that story we just ran who is prepared to carry a weapon in the class is confronted with yet another conundrum, and that is, what if you have to shoot one of your students because that student is the assailant? again, that's a simpler decision for somebody who is not in your care. that creates another conundrum. he said we'll cross that bridge when we get to it and at least i'll know that the rest of my students would be safe. but we've had teachers tell us it would be very difficult for them to shoot a student even if that student is the assailant? >> it would. if you think of your students like the teacher said in the piece, they're your kids, and you want to protect them.
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that's what we're trained to do. you know, to care for and protect our students. but that doesn't mean that i need to have a weapon. and that wouldn't keep me safe. >> let's talk about the movement. you have been a supporter of the movement that started, really, with your students. many of them in your classes who have been sort of talked to write and think critically about these issues. and they really did sustain this. this was february 14th, it was valentine's day. what do you think they've achieved in the last few months? >> oh, it's immeasurable what they've done. they took the idea of bringing things to tallahassee, and moved that the march for our lives. and now they're on the road to change where they're registering people to vote. and they're crisscrossing the whole country, and they're doing tremendous, tremendous things. and the students who aren't a part of the movement proper per
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se are here, and are speaking outside. you know, using social media as a platform. really just working -- we all are, in the community, really just working to make change to hopefully ensure that something like this never happens again. and putting pressure on the lawmakers, to, you know, do right by us and do right by your constituents. >> sarah, what's different about your summer break this year? it's usually a time for teachers to relax and maybe thing about what happens when school starts again. but in your case, in your school's case, in many school's cases teachers are thinking about things very differently now. what's going to change in your life in teaching when school gets back? >> i'm not exactly sure. and i know that's not the answer you were looking for. i don't know what the school year will hold. we are -- you know, we can't use that building. so, we will have portable
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classrooms for 30 teachers but i don't know who will be -- i was displaced from my room last year, after everything happens so teachers from the freshmen build having a place to go. so, i'll be getting my room back. i don't know if it's the whole room or half the room. i mean, i know what i'll be teaching. but there are just so many unknowns for all of us. students and teaches. even administrators. you know, we don't know exactly what is going to happen. thankfully, we still have some weeks left. but it's very unsettling not being in control of the school year. >> not knowing what the future holding, sarah. thank you for talking with us. >> thank you. coming up next, it's a race against time to save the boys' soccer team trapped in that cave in thailand. right now, navy s.e.a.l. divers are training them for a
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boy scuba diving in thick weight. they don't even swim. several of them can't swim, according to reports. joining me now is nbc news' janis mackey frayer live. and here from the cave commission. i know you've been covering this from the beginning. what is the latest on the rescue plan? >> reporter: well, there's now this new race against time. first is to find the boys, now it's to get them out. with the threat of the monsoon rains due to hit here at the end of the week. it means the water levels inside the caves could rise dangerously high. and some believe may actually fully flood it. so it's forcing officials here to at least consider an evacuation attempt within the next few days. they're rehearsing possible scenarios. they're having the kids practice wearing full face masks and breathing. but there are no easy next moves
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here. the kids don't even know how to swim, let alone have the diving skills to navigate nearly three miles of murky water. another option they're exploring is finding a different way into the cave system. there are hundreds of people walking around in this area, looking for cracks. looking for chimneys. looking for places where they can drill and drop ropes to pull the boys out. pumps are trying to get the water out of the cave system but one of the experts i spoke to here says there just isn't enough time the rains are going to come and erase any progress at this point. meanwhile, medics are taking care of the kids inside of the cave and they seem to be in good spirits. there was a video where they spent messages to their families. they're hoping they're coming out soon. >> let's talk the good news. the good news they can get supplies to the kids. let's talk about the
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impediments. i've talked to a number of people who said can't they just attach something to the kids and bring them out. what's the obvious, other than if you can't swim and you learn to scuba dive. there's panic that can set in and all sorts of problems. they can't see. and it's murky. it's not like a lake. it's crevices and turns. what's the fundamental problem with somehow figuring out how to drag these kids out? >> well, obviously, if they lose their air supply, and in any of those enclosed places, it's going to be fatal very quickly if it can't be regained. so there is absolutely no margin of error there. and furthermore, there are places in there where they're going to be going through where you can't have somebody right next to them. there will be other divers who would be close to them, but there will be places where you're on your own, even though somebody might be five feet away, they could not help you at all if you were to panic or lose
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your air supply or have some other problem with quilequipmen. the kind of face masks are much safer harder to lose but much easier with regard to training. >> this is a cave that has small openings that the boys went through as part of the exploration or tour of it. now to swim out of those. the rescuers had to actually break the holes open just to get through. so if you're coming out with a mask and scuba gear. there are complexities about getting stuck. >> reporter: i heard one person describe it as trying to look through a clear glass cup of black coffee. i mean, the water is dirty, it's murky. it's strong. it's a challenge even for experienced divers. and once those rains hit. and we know the monsoon is inevitable. once the rains hit, the water is only going to get stronger. and it may even keep the divers back.
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and that's another concern, ali, with leaving the kids there until the end of the rainy season is that what if the supply lines get cut off for the divers. what if they're unable to get the supplies of food and pressure water and medicine for the boys in order to help them wait it out. there's also the issue of morale. there are thai navy s.e.a.l. divers who say they are willing to stay in that cave with those boys until they're able to get them out which is, of course, a huge sacrifice and commitment, but again, it becomes the issue of risk and safety if those supply lines get cut off. >> so, they can't see. they're not good is swimmers. there's the issue of the mask getting dislodged during some fashion. the oxygen getting cut off. and there's a problem of them getting stuck. is there anything we're missing here? this is already pretty complicated? >> no that's about it. and, of course, as i said before, there's no margin of error. the big thing, and one of the
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aspects of the rescue that they're doing right now is that training. and even if they don't use that option, the training is good, because it gives the boys something to occupy their time. keep the morale up. and gives them something that they can do to help their own situation which is very important psychologically. >> janice, what is going on where you are? we saw activity behind eye a few moments ago. where are you and what's happening there? >> reporter: well, the cave itself is probably 100 meters down the road and a bit of a walk up. you know where it is because all of these pipes that are running out of it and water spewing everywhere. they're still trying to drain the floodwater out of the caves while the good weather holds. behind me is effectively, the staging center for the rescue efforts. primarily, the divers here, always checking the canisters, the regulators, all of their equipment that they need for these divers to be going back and forth down this very narrow
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passageway taking the supplies into the kids. this is an international effort. it's being led by thais, but it's involving experts from the united states, australia, chinese divers are now here. the hope is, of course, that they are going to be able to bring these boys out safely. but again, they're not exactly sure how to do it. and more crucially when. >> what a story. janice, thanks very much for staying on top of this for us. janis mackey frier. and anmar miraz. meeting with kim jong-un. is there a real hope for a deal? we'll talk to somebody involved in one of these before. you're watching msnbc. friends. and we got to know the friends of our friends. then our old friends from middle school, our mom, our ex and our boss joined forces to wish us happy birthday.
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by staying in rhythm. and to keep up this pace, i drink boost optimum. boost optimum with 5 in 1 advanced nutrition helps support muscle, energy, bone, normal immune function, and vision. boost optimum. be up for life. secretary of state mike pompeo is preparing for a two day trip starting tomorrow. it will be the first trip by u.s. officials since president trump's summit with kim jong-un last month. president trump tweeted there's no longer a nuclear threat from north korea. now secretary pompeo is
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scheduled to meet with kim jong-un amid reports that his regime is trying to deceive the u.s. u.s. intelligence officials believe north korea has increased its production of fuel for nuclear weapons at multiple secret sites in recent months and kim jong-un may be trying t. the white house will not confirm or deny any report. the president carries only about iran. iran never had a nuclear weapon. north korea has nuclear weapons and the president tweeted that it no longer poses a nuclear threat. we're starting from the basis of misnch misinformation here. >> definitely. with iran you were giving yourself time. it was buying time before iran could develop a nuclear weapon.
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buying time for what? buying time for less missile tests, less production. they already have the nuclear capabilities. >> correct. we didn't get anything out of that in singapore. we don't know what they have. we have intelligence to say they can make 60, we don't know. to suggest they're not a threat is dishonest. >> yes, it's dishonest. we're seeing both talk outside both sides of their mouth. you have president trump with these tweets and then you have bolton and pompeo saying different things. bolton saying it will take a year for -- >> even that it's going to take a year. experts we have spoken to say maybe if everybody were on site
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and we had an agreement but we don't have an agreement. it's complicated. this has been decades of them building this nuclear program. it may not be a year. >> no, it may not be a year. others have said we're not putting a timeline on it. they don't have their talking points clear. it's difficult to follow because they started from the heads of state meeting. we're working backwards. it's placed immense pressure on secretary pompeo. >> now they are talking about a second summit in new york. we're not looking for more traffic that week in new york. a follow up on what. now we're going to invite kim jong-un to the united states. the only one who made any concessions is the united states. >> right. i argue and i was not on every
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decision and announcement monday. democrats hoping to pressure the president to replace a well known moderate with another moderate but looking at the list it didn't look likely. the other hope, the american dream. we're talking with unimmigrant, a mom who crossed the border legally back in may. the u.s. still took her children from her and she hasn't seen them in two months. how she plans to get them back. that young soccer team, their coach still trapped inside a flooded ka eed cave. there's new video. a live report from the scene there. we'll take you there coming up this hour. we have team set up across the country and around the world today. we'll begin at the white house. good morning to you. the president giving an update last night on his supreme court search saying they are all impress
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