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good morning. welcome to "politicsnation." coming to you today from jacksonville, florida. by now i hope you have all somewhat recovered from this turbulent, disgraceful week of russian roulette. it started with an abysmal performance of president trump in helsinki. a disgusting back stabbing of america's military and intelligence communities.
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continued with his contradictory back and forth comments on russian election interference. and ended with an outrageous invitation to the russian dictator to visit the white house. if by now you're still not sure why the russian interference in our elections is so important, i'll explain in a second. but first i had an interesting meeting this week with michael cohen. the former personal lawyer for donald trump. here's what i can tell you about that meeting. i have known michael cohen for about 20 years. he was always the one that would arrange meetings with donald trump and myself and others in the civil rights community. usually because we had strongly opposed him. i even led marches on him on different issues that we
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disagree. and sometimes when trump would act supportive, he's come to two of our national action network conventions. all that michael cohen was at the center -- in the center of arranging. i always found cohen even if we disagreed on politics to be straight forward and very, very direct. so when he reached out and said let's talk, i sat down. not knowing what to expect. i found a man that was very, very clear to me that he had resolved that he was going to do what is right for his family and for the country. he even told me how his father was a holocaust survivor and he did not want to disgrace what many in his family stood for. what that will mean we will see. what it means to him he must stand up for.
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joining me now is msnbc legal analyst danny cevallos. a lot has happened in the last 24 hours. bring the viewers up to date after the tumultuous week. tell us what's happened in the last 24 hours that the viewers need to be upgraded on. >> a tape has surfaced and that tape is one of the tapes that we have been hearing about for some time. allegedly that michael cohen made it a practice to record his conversations with trump and there is at least one tape and that tape had been ruled strangely enough as privileged by the special master reviewing all of the millions of documents and data that was seized by the government. and yet, even though that was ruled to be a privileged tape, it somehow was released. and by process of elimination, since the government never had it, it can either be the cohen
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side or the trump side. but either way, the president's attorney rudy giuliani has said that this is not a tape that damages us. this is a tape that exonerates us and the substance -- >> but the tape, danny, says that the president who was not president at the time was discussing some payoff to a lady that had accused him of having an affair. so it may not be legally relevant in terms of charges, but it certainly clearly makes the president a liar when he said that he never knew or had any kind of affair with this woman if in fact he's on tape discussing some kind of payoff or some kind of confrontation that he wants this to be quieted. >> i will double down on what you just said. there's potential legal significance because in kind benefit is arguably a violation
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of federal election campaign laws. and there is precedent for this. john edwards was charged with similar violations but he was ultimately not convicted. so it seems that convictions in this area are rare although politicians can be charged. so if there was an in kind benefit that was not reported to the campaign, then there is a potential crime. but you're absolutely right. that additionally it appears to establish that the president or at least the trump campaign was not forthcoming or possibly even lying about whether or not there was a sexual relationship or peccadillos or marital infidelity. but it seems like rudy giuliani has taken the strategic position that we don't care anymore who knows about the president's infidelities because we're taking the gamble that his base just doesn't care. as long as we avoid legal
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liability, that's what's mattering. >> all right. well, it keeps going and it keeps going. for the record, michael cohen and i did not discuss the tapes. in fact, they came out about an hour or so after our breakfast, but thank you nbc's danny cevallos. now back to the very interesting week to say the least. we had with our russian counterpart, foes, enemies, joining me now peter emerson who worked or the three democratic administrations and jen kerns a former spokeswoman for the california republican party. jen, let me go to you first. the president goes, stands shoulder to shoulder with vladimir putin, says that he has no reason to believe that russia interfered with the united states elections in 2016.
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really casting real aspersions and real questions of the findings of the intelligence community in the united states and of his own justice department. who had just indicted that friday before 12 russians for interference. then gives a lot of praise to mr. putin. standing next to him. then comes back to the united states and says oh, i missaid one word. i know you are a republican, i know you have been a spokeswoman for the party but isn't this a bit much for even republicans to have to stand behind and support? >> well, i think that's why you saw several republicans come out and voice their displeasure over this past week. it's hard to believe it's only been five days since the helsinki summit, it seems like it's been about five years,
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right, reverend? but look i look at more what president trump's actions and no president prior has been tougher on russia than this president. let's remember, it was president barack obama who told a russian official that he would have no flexibility after the elections, not president trump. >> but it was also president trump -- president barack obama that said to the president of russia the same president putin, you better stop it, so i mean, when we saw president obama in the room with putin, it was a huge difference than what we saw with trump all but deferring and bowing to putin in helsinki. i'm sure you didn't mean to bring up the analogy of obama/putin with trump/putin. >> well, two things here, reverend. one is we don't know what took place and i do believe that transcript will come out in the coming days about what took place between the two leaders and the translators. we also don't know and we'll be
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finding out soon what the two staff of the two countries were discussing. let's not forget this was a podium to podium diplomacy summit in order to move the ball forward on some other key issues like denuclearization and other things that are pacing the u.s. and other nations. we know that the staffs were left behind to hash out some details. i know the conversations were very harsh. let's long at the sanctions that have been placed on russia by president trump. just this past april, president trump placed very stringent sanctions on 17 of vladimir putin's inner circle. those were strict sanctions that prohibit them from ever traveling to the united states again. from ever opening a bank account in the west again. and from ever being able to do business in the west again. and those are 17 of vladimir putin's inner circle and you know in a country like this those people are propped up by oligarchs and the wealthy. that hit vladimir putin
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personally. >> and propped up by putin, peter. in fact, the same putin that this president was very, very differential to. the point though i think jen makes is that we don't know what happened in those two hours. so we don't know if those sanctions were negotiated. if there was an agreement to compromise them. and now we have president trump inviting putin to the white house for part two of this kind of conversation and whatever is the follow-up to whatever they discussed in private. so we really don't know where it's going, but from the optics it looks like putin is way ahead on the scorecard of who's winning in this. >> putin is a judo master, he's the puppet master against donald trump's bluster and big max. all these people defending donald trump talk about the sanctions. throwing a few diplomats out of
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the country, closing bank accounts north al -- or not allowing them to be opened means nothing. the national security issue is the fact that donald trump continues to say yes to russian interference in the 2018 elections. i spent the last week talking with experts, nonpartisan experts on voting machines, voting procedures, voting processes. this white house and this congress have done absolutely nothing. you can be assured that russia will be voting in the 2018 elections and consequently whatever happened in helsinki which we will never know because oftentimes interpreters are asked to leave the room or documents are exchanged. so there isn't going to be a transcript that's entirely accurate. what is clear and truthful is that right now, the national security of this democracy is at risk because trump has refused to say nyet strongly enough to
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election interference in our elections. >> let me go back to you, jen. you talked about staff meetings to the staff meetings -- the different staffs of the russian president and the u.s. president. but we saw even a senior official of the trump administration was caught off guard when our andrea mitchell informed him in aspen that the president had invited putin to the white house. so how are we supposed to depend or have any kind of trust in what the staff discussed when the staff doesn't even know the president of the united states had invited the president of russia to the white house? >> well, it is possible that not every staff member in the white house who was not working on that project directly did not know especially if he was out of town or on vacation. but look, what peter ought to know is what rod rosenstein said last friday with the indictments of the 12 new russians was that
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not a single vote total was affected in this. and not a single outcome of the election in the united states of america was affected by the attempted russian meddling in our elections. so i think it's important here to listen to one of the guys that's been vilified by the right including myself, when he says that the russians were not successful in meddling so you can't say that russia voted in the election. because even rosenstein one of president trump's fiercest opponents here admits that that clearly did not happen. >> i thought rod rosenstein was the top official under sessions in the justice department. i didn't know he was an opponent of the president. we've got breaking news from you this morning. we didn't know that. >> i don't think it's breaking news, but -- >> the other thing i think is that they said that this was an ongoing investigation so we don't know if americans are not going to also be prosecuted or
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indicted and where this is going to lead. this is the opening salvo. just wanted to add that piece. thank you both for being with me this morning. >> thank you. >> peter emerson and jen kerns. coming up, will brett kavanaugh's confirmation to the supreme court spell doom for civil rights? naacp president derrick johnson will tackle that question when we come back. this is "politicsnation" on msnbc.
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welcome back. with president trump's nomination of brett kavanaugh to the supreme court, congressional democrats have been galvanized to stop them from securing that seat.
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and we in the civil rights community are preemptively formulating our strategy to protect the basic civil rights that could be endangered if kavanaugh takes the bench. earlier, i talked to one of the leaders of this plan of action. derrick johnson, president and ceo of the naacp. thank you, first of all, for being with us. >> good morning. thank you for having me. >> tell us why we have had conference calls with chapter leaders of all of our different groups and different legal entities in the civil rights community. why is this such a real issue of concern to the civil rights community and to americans in general in your judgment? >> well, a supreme court nomination is a lifetime appointment. we all understand the significance of such an appointment. the last thing that this country
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can tolerate is an activist supreme court bench. individuals who seek to legislate from the bench as opposed to interpret the constitution, to make this democracy more inclusive. but more importantly, rev, we all understand as civil rights and social justice is not a competition. the interests that you advocate for is very much like the legal defense fund and the naacp. we are in lock step. in opposition to this particular nominee. >> now, the media -- i'm looking for the right way to frame this, but i'll put it this way. the media and many in the public say the democrats don't have the votes to stop this nomination. yet, many say including you and i that the fight is not about just head counting but it's about what is right for the country.
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do you think though as we fight that some of those that are in the senate can be changed to really hear the will of the american people on this? >> well, i take the position that when we fight we win. the outcome is not always the goal. the outcome for us is to make sure that our community, our voices are heard. and to send a clear and strong message that this particular nominee is not in the best interest not only for civil rights, but for this nation. and for any member of the senate who depend on an african-american vote, for election or re-election. this is a nonnegotiable reality. >> now kavanaugh has a record. he supported voter i.d. law as a judge. he wrote decisions on that and other things that there's a record of how he rules and interprets law. so he's not only a trump nominee but we're talking about his
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record. do you think that the senate has the responsibility to go through his record as a judge to determine whether his interpretation of the law is something that would make him fit to serve on the supreme court because we saw this week where a majority leader mcconnell said we don't want you taking a lot of time. if you do, i'm going to force the vote anyway right before the midterm elections. >> well, you know, in terms of the naacp, we oppose kavanaugh's confirmation when he was up for nomination for the d.c. circuit court. his record is not unfamiliar to us. he's only built on that record since an appointment to the fifth circuit court of appeals. i think majority leader mcconnell is -- his statements are contradictory to his statements two years ago. and it exposes that he is not operating with a clear hand here. he set a rule that the people
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should decide we're saying no one should be confirmed until after this election and a new senate is seated. that's the rule that mcconnell set when we went to the gorsuch nomination. we want to follow that. we want to hold him true to his word unless he's not getting the most qualified individual to sit in the seat or hear the words of the voters across the country and he's putting someone in more in line with his interpretation of the constitution and to legislate from the bench. that's the most dangerous thing we could do. >> you concluded the 109th anniversary of the naacp in san antonio, texas. what are the big things that were determined by the delegates that came from all over the other country and other parts of the world to the naacp this week in convention? >> we convened in san antonio
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under the theme, defeat hate, vote. this midterm election is perhaps one of the most important elections because it will impact future nominees to the federal bench including the supreme court. it will impact redistricting and impact the census. it will impact public policy for the next 15 years so we spent most of our time looking at how we'll turn out the vote in a strategic, targeted way using metrics to ensure that we have clear accountability of all the individuals who are placed in office. >> now, we all know and it's very well established the naacp report card. it was released during the convention. give us some of the highlights, derrick, of the 2018 report card of the naacp. >> well, one of the things that we're doing differently this year in terms of our industry reports looking at how we can encourage more dollar disciplines from our members and african-americans at large, we were approved by the security
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and exchange commission to establish what's called an electronic funds transfer -- trading entity. we were -- our brand will be traded on the new york stock market and we'll be measuring company's diversity. we licensed that operation out to the third party fund manager to ensure that the quality of the corporate's citizenship reflect the customer base. >> i think one of the things that we have already seen in your leadership and many of us are aware of your leadership over the mississippi naacp even before becoming the national leader is that you work with other groups. you work in coalition. but you believe in staying on the ground, grass roots. is that what we can see as we go into these midterm elections, into 2020, and with the concerns of criminal justice and policing and economic rights around the
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country, particularly for people of color? >> well, you know, martin luther king had a powerful voice. he inspired but it was the fanni hamers that changed the way that america included african-americans. individuals across the landscape who asserted say a power to advocate for the needs and interests of their country. that's how i'm excited that's going to allow us to succeed. we need the inspirational voices but we need the feet on the ground to ensure that individuals who represent our need and interest do so. if they don't, then there are repercussions to pay. >> you know i come out of the king's school of thought and you come out of the naacp with hamer. but all of us are tired of being sick and tired. >> that's right. if we're not all carrying our weight to do what we need to do, we all lose. but if we do it together, we all succeed. >> derrick johnson, president and ceo of the naacp. thank you for being with us this
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and now for this week's gotcha. on wednesday, "the washington
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post" lent the opinion page to former national security spokesman michael anton whose argument was for an end to one of america's most compassionate and definitive immigration practices. the birth right. that if you're born here, you're an american citizen. anton's strategically misinterprets the 14th amendment and writes, quote, america is not a country of immigrants but a country of settlers who can exclude immigrants at any time. that's a quote. as our history goes, settler has been a loaded term at best. racialized from the start. excluding black slaves, chinese laborers and of course native populations who were resettled because of those settlers anton
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describes. but he makes a point to blame china and mexico for abusing birth right citizenship and neglects to mention multiple reports including nbc's own report about russian quote birth tourists who flock to miami and stay in trump condos just to give birth to american citizens. though nbc news found no clear indication that trump and his organization directly profit from the practice, it isn't surprising that anton doesn't mention them in his polemic. so mr. anton, understand that quote immigrant and quote settler are synonyms and the 14th amendment clearly reads,
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quote, all persons born or natural yourized in the united states and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the united states. it's written that way as a rejection of the previous law of land that even a free black man was not a recognized citizen. just another instance in which the fight for black civil rights has enhanced the liberty of all of us, given that you're of lebanese descent, i'm guessing that mr. anton from a family of immigrants allow me to say you're welcome. michael anton, i gotcha.
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welcome back. did president trump betray the united states by entertaining a request by vladimir putin that would allow russians to interrogate former u.s. ambassador to russia, michael mcfaul? that's a question posed earlier to congressman eric swalwell democrat of california who sits on the select committee on intelligence.
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congressman, thank you for being with us this morning. >> thank you, reverend. a pleasure to be on. >> let me begin by asking you have said that even the suggestion that the president of the united states donald trump would permit the questioning by the soviet union of mr. mcfaul and any u.s. diplomat or u.s. personnel is a betrayal to the country. how do you explain that's a very strong statement. many of us may agree but you as a sitting member of congress how do you explain the statement and what can you do about it in the congress? >> well, i think what this president, reverend, i think you have to draw very sharp, very bright red lines and make sure he understands that if he were to negotiate a way -- away the release of a u.s. ambassador to
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a country that does not have a rule of law that that would be a betrayal of an american. we know what would happen if that ambassador was turned over to russia. his life would be at stake and would send a message to any person who serves this country that this president could trade you to the dictator doesn't like what you're saying and wants to hear from you. i think you have to be firm with this president and people in congress need to make sure this president is held accountable if he were to take any actions like that i wanted to throw that out there so he knew what the risk would be and that i and others would speak very loudly for his removal from office if he were to ever do that. >> now, mr. mcfaul, michael mcfaul was an ambassador from the united states. is there any precedent that you can think of and relate to us in history where the united states directed by the president of the united states actually turned a
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u.s. ambassador, former u.s. ambassador over to a dictator for questioning on anything? >> no. reverend, it would be completely unprecedented. in our country we do have a rule of law. and we have an extradition process where countries where we have treaties. you know, those countries have a rule of law and they can prove through their standards of evidence that someone has committed a crime of course we want to cooperate with them as much as we would want them to cooperate with us. but that is not the case here. again, i think it's most offensive that the president did not rule this out of -- he did not rule this out immediately when putin brought it up, but rather let it fester for days. i think that shows you, you know, the values of this president. that it's truly about him and what he can get out of this, rather than what him doing this means for the united states and our values. >> now, you're a member of the house intel committee. you also took serious issue with
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the president inviting the president of russia, vladimir putin, to the united states. to come to washington. and you said that you would unilaterally oppose the invitation. why do you think the president would invite vladimir putin and do you think both this and the suggestion that there was the possibility that mcfall, the former u.s. ambassador could even be questioned by the soviets, do you think this was part of the two hour meeting that putin and trump had that no one knows what occurred including senior members of his own administration? he being trump. >> yeah, i do reverend. i think that's the case. i think the reason the president invited vladimir putin is that vladimir putin likes the president and the president knows that vladimir putin helped him get elected. he ordered an attack against the united states. where i come from, when someone
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breaks into your home you upgrade your security system. you don't invite the burglar over for dinner. but what we can do here in america unlike what happened in helsinki is we can make sure that they're not as alone as they want to be and that our voices from the outside and the peaceful protests we can lead will make their way into that room. and they'll hear from us. >> let's be clear. the president has now said later in the week he didn't say it in helsinki standing next to putin that he does believe that there was russian involvement in the election that he sides with the intelligence community of the united states after he refused to do so in helsinki standing next to putin. so you say you believe in what the intelligence community found. but then you invite the culprit to the united states to your house for dinner. i mean, it seems like contradictory activity if -- to put it lightly. >> well, if he really believes
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that, reverend, why couldn't he have shown the courage to look putin in the eye and tell him that? it's so easy to fly back to the united states and say that because you're feeling the heat and you're worried that your poll numbers are in a free-fall. but he was on the stage with putin. he had an opportunity to confront him. i'll give the president credit. he talked tough as a candidate. i think a lot of americans thought okay, we'll get, you know, a strong president who's going to stand up for america that may have been some of the appeal that he had. he had a chance to do that with vladimir putin. and he didn't. and so i think we can conclude that he won't in the future and that's why it's on congress to stand up for the american people if our president is going to be so helpless. >> let's be clear, this is not partisan because republican ronald reagan who president trump quotes often said to gorbachev, take the wall down, the berlin wall. so it's not that we're asking for something that even
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republicans that are in many ways reagan is held in high esteem by conservatives, he stood up and said what he had to say when he was dealing with the russian dictator of that time. >> he did. >> this is unprecedented. >> i believe if i'm correct that that was not in his remarks and he was advised not to say that and president reagan said it anyway, showing the courage he was able to muster on behalf of the united states in that moment. we did not see that type of courage from a president who often times likes to compare himself to ronald reagan but when it comes to walking the walk has not been able to take those steps. >> congressman eric swalwell, thank you so much for being with us this morning. >> my pleasure. up next, four years after the brutal death of eric garner, his family is still fighting for justice. i'll explain when we come back. and now for the rings. (♪)
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has the new york city police department finally decided to take disciplinary action against the officers involved. after a seemingly stalled investigation by the department of justice the decision follows a press conference this week where i joined eric garner's mother to demand justice for her son's brutal killing and to urge the nypd to move forward after they had announced they would do so. now, joining me is eugene o'donnell, a professor at john jay college of criminal justice and brittany packnett, a member of former president obama's 21st century police task force and also an activist i admire. let me start with you, eugene. four years later, we waited to
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see if the justice department would move, they wouldn't. the family said months ago if not years the police should go forward and now they have extra dieted and said they'll start immediately. but this is representative of the justice department and police accountability nationwide when this attorney general, jeff sessions, came in. he immediately stopped the review of miss in many cities. he dealt with baltimore's consent decree, stopping it, that was being proposed for chicago. so many of the wheels that were turning toward a fairer police accountability in this country of unarmed black men and unarmed people seemed to screech to a halt with this new administration. >> well, certainly in the case
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of garner this is an arrest that should never have been made and it's interesting because chicago may be a rerun of that event. the events that happened in chicago. that is having the police swoop down on minor infractions and that's the case of community policing, getting the cops to actually use soft skills in the issue, not to use hard skills. but also with garner it's undeniable there were leadership failures there also. that's an arrest that really should not have been made. this is trivial infraction, really civil matter, it should not be handled with the custodial arrest and the police going down as the heavies, trying to fix those kind of issues should be done by officers who are known in the community. talking to people. and not using the hard skills but the soft skills that are at the heart of community -- real community based policing. >> brittany, in the middle of
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our marching and organizing around eric garner two weeks in, guy at a call to come ground th were a part of the organizing force, leadership, and all the way to you being on the -- president obama's 21st century commission. you cofounded and campaigned zero. you've been involved clemens case in mobile. i think one of the things that sticks out in my mind is a meeting with president obama with you and young activists and me and martin and others and those that were older than mark and i, john lewis and others. and i saw generations of black activists still fighting this issue of police accountability. how do you see it now as someone who has really been on the ground and has stayed there organizing all over the country? >> well, i see this as a
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continued necessary fight. there are thousands of people at the local level, the state level, the federal level who are fighting back this issue of police violence and for the issue of police accountability every single day. at the end of the day what we are talking about is people who are sworn to serve and protect our communities, with whom a lot of us don't feel safe. and that's a stain on democracy. that is something that should concern us all. in 2017 there were only 14 days where the police in the united states of america did not kill someone. that equated to over 1100 people that were killed by police that year. in the u.k. last year, there were five people killed by police. four of them were involved in terrorist incidents. so we know it is perfectly possible for us to live in a world where the police don't kill people. we believe that can happen in this country, and we believe that our people, people like eric garner, people like michael brown, j, people like sandra planned can live fully and
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freely in this country we helped build. >> eugene, the question is those of us that engage in the questions and moves, whatever tactics we may use, are not anti-police. we are pro what is right and good police are smeared because of the actions of bad police and the lack of accountability of bad policing. and i think that a lot of people on the right try to miscast this as anti-police rather than really saying that we want policing to work for everybody. >> there's no question about it. we have to -- there have to be reforms and intelligent reforms. in a city like chicago and many other cities, there is a long history of distrust. but we have to make sure that reform doesn't become paralysis either. the community is sensitive to that also. how do you simultaneously fix policing but also have police attend to issues that are concerns in the community and
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that continues to be the rub. i'm real concerned as the conversation continues to grow that we are going in two different directions. the police are going in one direction on the ground and communities asking for other priorities and trying to reconcile that. it shouldn't be a partisan issue at all. this is a nonpartisan issue, how to simultaneously treat people with respect and decency, but also protect their community. that is not a partisan issue. >> brittany, as things have developed over the last four years since michael brown and eric garner, one of the things that we hear is intersectionalism about how different concerns have learned how to come together and work together and inter generational, different tactics, but same issues. one of the things i think you have come to symbolize, at least to me, we don't have to do it the same way but we have to do
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something. >> absolutely. and when i look at what happened in the waffle house in alabama, and another waffle house a few weeks later in north carolina, these were unnecessary incidents of unnecessary brute force by police. anthony wall is a young gay black man, shakeisha is a young black woman. we need to make sure the conversation includes all people and not just some people otherwise we are replicating the oppression we are experiencing. we have to make sure people who were involved in the women's mar, people who were involved in lgbtq rights are also involved in making sure that black and brown people in this country are safe, are also involved in making sure that native lands and native people are protected, are also involved in making sure that disabled people have the rights that they deserve. so we have to make sure we're doing this work together. we are indeed stronger together and when we get that right and recognize that we can would have together to deal with the oppression that impacts all of
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us, we'll make the kind of progress we deserve. >> well, i'm going to use that as my sermon this morning here in jacksonville. thank you, eugene o'donnell. thank you, brittany. up next, my final thoughts. stay with us. alright guys let's go! let's do this. (♪) okay you gotta be kidding me. hold on, don't worry, there's another way. directions to the greek theater. (beep) ♪can i get a connection? ♪can i get can i get a connection?♪ ♪ohhh can i get a connection? ♪trying find the old me man 1: this is my body of proof.
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