tv The Last Word With Lawrence O Donnell MSNBC October 8, 2018 10:00pm-11:00pm PDT
she pulled together the strength to sing with the bands. you know the words. >> actually took a political risk with her vote this week to stand up for sexual assault survivors and for her mom. not a small thing. that does it for us tonight. rachel will be back here tomorrow. i will see you saturday morning on my show "a.m. joy." now it's time for "the last word" with lawrence o'donnell. good evening. nce o'donnell. good evening and a deputy attorney general took place today on air force one. it was a meeting that president trump scheduled specifically to set up a competing television event on the day that christine blasey ford presented her accusations about brett kavanaugh to the judiciary committee. the strategy seemed to be to draw cameras away from what the white house expected to be a e damaging hearing for brett kavanaugh. a but there was a genuine sense of urgency about the meeting the president wanted to have with deputy attorney general rod rosenstein because rod rosenstein was then publicly
struggling to deny a story in "the new york times" saying that early in the trump th administration rod rozenstein discussed trying to assemble evidence to be used in convincing the vice president and the cabinet to remove president trump from power by using the process authorized in the 25th amendment.au and rod rosenstein in that story was being quoted as willing to wear a wire possibly himself to record the president, to gather evidence against the president. speculation was then running high that the president would use the meeting that was scheduled for the same time as the kavanaugh hearing to fire rod rosenstein and force tv attention to shift to the theatrical drama of rod rosenstein arrive agate the white house and then leaving the white house. and then perhaps the president then making a statement about the firing, but the president canceled that meeting and decided to watch the hearing on tv like the rest of us. the meeting was rescheduled for today on an airplane, which couldn't be more ironic because
of this. >> bill clinton gets into the back of an airplane for 39 minutes, just prior to a determination being made, but gets on with the attorney general because he happened to be in arizona playing golf. it was 110 degrees out, right? nobody saw him on the golf course. just happened to be there. o oh, there's the attorney general. oh, let me get back on the plane. so they spent 39 minutes in the back of the plane. they talked about two things, golf and grandchildren. 39 minutes. what else do you think might have been talked about? >> well, you know the president didn't talk about the grandchildren today. as a candidate for president donald trump and every republican considered it an outrage that a former president of the united states would meet with a current attorney general over whom the former president had absolutely no power, and they found something extra conspiratorial in the fact that
the meeting occurred on an airplane and the fact that bill clinton's private plane landed in the same place as the attorney general's plane. today donald trump met on an airplane with the deputy attorney general who is investigating him.la rod rosenstein is the supervising -- he's the supervisor of the special prosecutor. so rod rosenstein is in effect the highest level working prosecutor in the justice department.ve and he's supervising the prosecutor who's investigating the president of the united states.nv so the justice department official has the ultimate tm control over the investigation of the president, met with the president today to try to convince him he was not part of a plot to use the 25th amendment to remove him from power and he didn't suggest the possibility of he himself wearing a wire to record either demented or criminal language by the president that could then be used to convince the vice president and the cabinet to remove the president from power. that is the strangest meeting
that has ever occurred in the history of the united states of america between a president andt a member of the justice department. here's what reporters got from the president about that meeting after air force one landed today. >> the press wants to know what did you talk about? well, we had a very good talk, i will say. that became a very big story, actually, folks. we had a good talk. we just had a very nice talk. we actually get along. and a really good talk. so i'm not -- i don't want to do anything about that. i'm not making any changes. you'd be the first to know. i'm not making any changes. >> not making any changes is what he was asked if he was firing rod rosenstein or anyonef else in the justice department. the president defended today it
was not enough, it was time to accuse the democrats of colluding with russia. >> everybody understands there was no collusion, no rush s. it was all made up by the democrats. they're the ones that colluded with russia. the democrats colluded with russia. >> as the president was telling that lie, "the new york times" was reporting new details on the mueller investigation. "the times" reports, a top trump campaign official requested proposals in 2016 from an israeli company to create fake online identities to use social media manipulation to gather intelligence to help defeat t primary race opponents and hillary clinton according to interviews and copies of the proposals. the trump campaign's interest in the work began as russians were escalating their effort to aide donald j. trump. though the israeli company's pitches were nayoar than moskow's interference campaign and appear unconnected the they
saw an effort to swing voters in mr. trump's favor. investigators have obtained copies of the proposals and questioned the israeli company employees. according to "the times," the trump aide who requested the proposal was rick gates who pleaded guilty in the mueller investigation in february and has been cooperating with prosecutors. and "the wall street journal" is reporting that a republican operative secretly raised ub $100,000 from donors to in an effort to obtain what he believed were hillary clinton's e-mails before the 2016 election. what "the wall street journal" called, quote, activities that remain of intense interest to federal investigators working for special counsel robert at mueller's office and on capitol hill. axios is reporting chief of staff john kelly recently formed a small working group to start preparing the possibility that democrats will soon put
congress' top investigators on trump world. senior white house staff have an off-site weekend reteat h scheduled for late october. the agenda is expected to include a discussion of investigations under a democratic controlled house. joining our discussion now joyce vance, former u.s. attorney for the northern district of f alabama, and professor at the d university alabama school of law.ro and david from, author of "trumpocracy" the corruption of the american republic. and max boot, senior counsel at of foreign relations and author of the new book, "the corrasion of conservatism, why i left the right." and max, i'd like to start with you tonight with the president deciding to change his defense from there was no collusion to the democrats colluded with russia.co >> this is the old no puppet, you're the puppet defense. i mean it's preposterous, lawrence. it doesn't make any sense.
the way republicans have gone along with these fairy tales donald trump tells, his attempts to obstruct justice, this is one of the major reasons i'm not a republican anymore. i can imagine republicans making compromises with trump on certain areas and saying, okay, i'm going to overlook a few deranged tweets if i'm going to get tax cuts or supreme court justices. but how do you overlook the fact he's fired the fbi director and has been engaged in nonstop obstruction of justice even as senior aide after senior aide has been found guilty of felonies. imagine what these republicans would be saying if this happened to hillary clinton. all these republicans who claim to be the law and order party, they're excusing it and they're enabling it. it's just disgusting. >> i mean i have to say, it seems to me that the outrage
should be maybe double for the people who are enabling it ma because donald trump is only one person. joyce vance, i want to go to the rick gates element of the news tonight, which is so fascinating. is we see in this the trump campaign trying to make some explorations, earlier explorations possibly this time involving israelis about how to manipulate social media, how to work this part of the world to their advantage. and rick gates seems to be the person who knows that story. >> this is an interesting development, and mueller seems to hold a lot of cards here. because he has rick gates as his cooperating witness, someone who can lead him through the story. you know, on its face, this is not what we think of an as an illegal campaign contribution. this if the reporting were to be borne out would be the trump campaign engaging, paying for the services of an israeli company. and although it could possibly be illegal in some way, it's not
a campaign financial violation. but we know that george nadir, who is acting as an emissary for the saudi princes made a $2 million payment to joelz who ran alongside the israeli company after the election. and if it turns out that was a payment that was made for the campaign, then all sorts of campaign finance violations could be possible. and rick gates who was right in the middle of it can tell bob ht mueller exactly what happened. >> and david frum, in the midst of all this, of course, there's "the new york times" story about the trump family tax schemes and tax evasion schemes, intergenerational over time. i want to listen to something the president said about that today when he was asked. he has famous sly declared at some point in his adulthood, his father gave him $1 million and that's it. that was his meager start in life. and we've since discovered he was given $1 mill wherein by his father when he was a little boy.
but let's listen to what donald trump said today when he faced questions about this. >> very well-documented. yes, it's been documented for many years. very well, all public documents. not at all. >> david frum the answer has gone from oh, he gave me a million dollars once to just refusing to answer the question and pretending it's been very well documented. >> it's gone from defamatory, libelist to inappropriate to old news to no big deal at all. as we listen to all these stories, do you remember that children's game duck, duck, mb goose, where you go around the table with a group of kids, with many areas of donald trump there's possible crime, possible crime, possible crime. here this is goose, actual crime. if you falsify invoices in order to deceive tax authorities, rd that's a crime.
and that's what "the times" so credibly reported the trump family has done. now, in this case it happened outside the statute of limitations.ap and maybe they did it for half a century and then stopped and never did it again. but maybe not. maybe the patterns for half a century continued. and i think -- as many people watch your program and all of us appear on it get frustrated things happen and we seem to be in the world of spin and not realities. when you have a very credible allegation of an actual crime and when there's a new house that assumes the investigation, i think we meet meet realities. there's going toby a special counsel to look at the question is the president at present committing tax crimes? >> yeah, and max, the president was asked recently -- the white house press secretary was asked is he still being audited? because that was the big lie during the campaign. i can't show you the returns.
that was of course the lie. he never showed the evidence he was being audited, which he could. everyone who's being audited gets an audit letter. he could have. the president crime sure was kind of thrilled with a couple s of weeks where all the attention was on someone else, all the attention was on brett kavanaugh. and was thrilled all the attention was on sexual assault allegations on another man, who he was hoping would survive those. and every time there's a big turn in the news on something, as soon as it's over, it's back to the potential and past crimes of donald trump. >> and there's a good reason for that. there's a good reason for that, lawrence, which is that donald trump is the most unethical and dishonest president in the history of the united states. and every single week we get more details about just how unethical and dishonest he is. let's focus on the fact just in the last month or so we have
learned of two instances very credible where he in all likelihood violated the law in a fairly massive way. one was this tax fraud that was documented by "the new york times." the other was the fact that michael cohen, his personal attorney, implicated him in the commission of two federal crimes. violating federal campaign financial laws, and we're very blase about that, but this is unprecedented situation. we have a president who's essentially a crook, something we have not faced since the days of watergate. but what makes nice this even more astonishing is there are no honest republicans anymore as there were in the days of ny watergate who would hold this president accountable. and that would leave me to conclude, and this is point i make in my book, someone who was a lifelong republican up until 2016, the only way we're going to get any accountable in washington is if everybody watching this show votes straight ticket democratic. i have differences with democrats, but we need have credibility.
we need democrats to get to the bottom of this and do things like for example getting his tax returns, which the chairman of the house of weighs and means committee can do. but there's no way in hell the republican chairman is ever going to do that. >> joyce vance, i want to get your thoughts on the long awaited meeting that took place on air force one. >> interesting context, yaz you pointed out given loretta lynch's well-known airport tarmac meeting with bill clinton. this meeting was nuanced a little differently, and of a course rosenstein reports directly to the president on a number of matters. but it's hard to know what to make of this. was it all theater or was the president really interested at o one point in firing rosenstein but then pushed back from that? i think that that latter explanation is more likely. because for this president
firing rosenstein and the impact that that could have had on narrowing and constricting the mueller investigation could easily have been perceived as evidence of the intent to obstruct justice. seems like the safer course for him is to make his piece with rosenstein and work through it. >> and david from the president at minimum got to show rosenstein who is boss theoretically by order him to come on this plane ride with me and spend some time talking there. but it could be the president is just waiting until after election day to fire him. >> because there's not a lot donald trump wants rosenstein affirmatively to do. there's things he wants him not to do. so the pulse check is this the day when the president is pressuring rosenstein either to shutdown mueller or quit be fired by somebody who will? and that didn't happen today. and every day that doesn't happen is a good day. >> david frum, max boot, joyce vance, thank you all for joining us tonight.
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tonight donald trump hosted the most partisan and angry ceremonial swearing in to the supreme court justice the country has ever seen. two people gave remarks. the president of the united states and the newest supreme court justice. and both of them were angry and partisan. the president told the lie that brett kavanaugh was found innocent of the accusations made against him by dr. christine blasey ford and other women. >> with that i must state that you, sir, under historic scrutiny were proven innocent. thank you. >> that was a carefully written speech by the white house staff. this was not donald trump talking off the top of his head. white house staff members sat down and wrote those lies, tat the president told at the kind of white house event that has always been handled with dignity and without politic ezven after extremely controversial confirmation fights. the president reduced everything
that dr. ford said to the words, lies. >> those who step forward to serve our country deserve a fair and dignified evaluation. not a campaign of political and personal destruction based on lies and deception. >> when president george h.w. bush staged the same kind of event for clarence thomas after clarence thomas got the fewest confirmation votes in the 20th century after he was accused of sexual misconduct by anita hill, president bush did not say a word about the controversy that erupted in the confirmation process. there was no bitterness about that. and clarence thomas himself did not say a word about that controversy. clarence thomas thanked, quote, all the members of congress. and the only member of congress clarence thomas actually mentioned specifically by name is bob dole, because he's the republican leader of the senate. but bob dole did not play an active role in the confirmation since the democrats controlled the senate then.
it wasn't a pay back for winning the confirmation. but brett kavanaugh did not follow the clarence thomas model. >> i think the members of the united states senate, senate majority leader mitch mcconnell for his leadership and steady resolve. i thank judiciary committee chairman chuck grassly for his wisdom and fairness, and give special gratitude to senator rob portman, susan collins, joe manchin, john kyle, and lindsey graham. they're a credit to the country and the senate. i'll be forever grateful to each of them and to all the senators who carefully considered my nomination. >> so brett kavanaugh joins the court having all but publicly pledged his loyalty to specific senators who simply voted for him like joe manchin and others who fought for him and were
willing to tell any lie for him like lindsey graham. singling out seven senators for voting for you is something they don't do at these events. once again he's shown his political temperament at the kind of event where all the predecessors have shown their judicial temperament. joining us now is lisa graves, a former deputy assistant attorney general in the department of justice. and joyce vance is back with us. and lisa, i was so struck by just how politicized and angry this event was tonight. both by the president and by brett kavanaugh. >> it really was extraordinary. and you had all the members of the supreme court sitting there in that room and predominantly republican operatives and republican politicians, and it was really surprising to hear brett kavanaugh praise chuck
grassly for his fairness, praise don mcgahn for his fairness when everyone in the country who is a partisan knows they participated to basically truncate that fbi investigation of the charges against brett kavanaugh. and then to hear president trump claim that brett kavanaugh's proven innocent, what happened was in fact the republican party was proven guilty of their willingness to ignore a track record of lies and compelling eyewitness testimony by dr. ford and put this man on the court despite evidence that he engaged in sexual assault and sexual misconduct. >> i want to listen to one other thing that brett kavanaugh said. this was at the very beginning, and listen carefully to the second sentence here about what he says about the american judiciary. let's listen to this. >> mr. president, thank you for the great honor of appointing me to serve as a justice of the supreme court.
i've seen first-hand your deep appreciation for the vital role of the american judiciary. i am grateful for your steadfast, unwavering support throughout this process. and i'm grateful to you and mrs. trump for the exceptional overwhelming courtesy you have extended to my family and me. mr. president, thank you for everything. >> joyce vance, he tells a lie in his second sentence of thanking donald trump. saying i've seen first-hand your deep appreciation for the vital role of the american judiciary. it's hard to think of a worse lie that brett kavanaugh could have told at that time. this is the only president of the united states who has
attacked a sitting federal judge during his presidential campaign because he didn't like the federal judge's ethnicity, and that federal judge was handling a case involving donald trump. >> kavanaugh on the one hand pone out that an independent federal judiciary is a crown jewel in our system of government and then makes this regrettable comment that it's really hard to understand. the incident where president trump criticized judge kuriel who's of mexican heritage is a point where everyone should have come and condemned president trump's comments. that was one of the hints this was a republican party who had standby trump no matter what. and now it turns out the no matter what is severe heavy damage. the newly sworn in justice kavanaugh is one hand so
critical to our way of life but at the same time is willing to permit it to be denigrated and to really mischaracterize the president who has been in no way a supporter of the rule of law or the judiciary. >> and lisa, brett kavanaugh there very strongly thanking the president for, quote, his steadfast and unwavering support throughout this process. supreme court justices never have to thank a president for that after confirmation because they never have confirmations that are this difficult. and even clarence thomas, after something comparable did not say that to the president of the united states. did not make any hint that it was a difficult process that he went through, and the president needed to hang tough on him. but in that statement brett kavanaugh owns every lie that donald trump told on his behalf during this confirmation process when he was out there talking to the press. >> that's exactly right. it reminds me, lawrence, of what you said earlier in this process which is that brett kavanaugh
began his nomination with lie in that similar praise for mr. trump. and he has ended that nomination with the same set of lies. and it really boggles the mind why a justice would want to make this sort of pledge of loyalty and gratitude to a president who has behaved in this way. and also i think what you saw in brett kavanaugh's remarks as you pointed out is that brett kavanaugh really is a partisan through and through. he can mouth the words about an independent judiciary but at his heart, he is grateful and indebted to the right wing republicans in that senate and to this president when the president is facing some of the most serious clarjs of a president of the united states. >> we await any case arriving at the supreme court that involves the political interest of lindsey graham or donald trump or any of the other people that brett kavanaugh seemed to be pledging loyalty tonight. joyce vance, lisa graves, thank you very much for joining us tonight. and when we come back, just
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the largest campaign rally of the year was not a trump rally, for some republican texas democrats had all but given up hope of winning a senate campaign until robert francis o'rourke of el paso started campaigning for senate. the congressman known by his nickname beto o'rourke, drew 55,000 people on a warm saturday night in austin, texas. i was there that night and i saw what all the excitement was about. >> this is a campaign of people, all people. and i i don't care about the differences between us. if you are a republican, you're in the right place. if you're a democrat, you're in the right place. if you're an independent, you're in the right place. whoever you pray to or whether you pray at all, whoever you love, however many generations you've in this country or whether you just got here yesterday, right now we're all in the same boat.
we're all human beings and we're going to start treating one another that way. >> with only 29 days left to the election day now democrats had to get back on the campaign trail immediately after the kavanaugh vote on saturday either to campaign for their own re-election or to campaign for other democrats on the senate. senator kamala harris campaigned and had this to say. >> what we saw was an exercise of raw power. raw power. which was used and had the affect of demeaning and diminishing and belittling people. well, here's the thing. if we want to correct the course, what do we need to do? we need to take the power. >> after the last confirmation battle like this 27 years ago when anita hill's testimony against clarence thomas was ignored by republicans, a
republican incumbent candidate was defeated in his re-election campaign and the number of women in the united states senate tripled from 2 to 6. and the democrats increased their majority in the senate to 67 democratic senators. after an ugly supreme court confirmation battle the anguish and the disappointment of the defeated then turned into the energy for the victory in the 1992 election. a sweeping win for democrats winning the house, the house -- the senate and the white house. if you were standing there listening to 55,000 people with beto o'rourke in texas, it felt like the democrats have the energy to win once again in texas. and if democrats can win in texas than the control of the senate could easily flip to a democratic majority. there is no one on the campaign trail in america who expresses
what's at stake in the next election better than beto o'rourke. >> the people of the future are counting on us while we can still get this right. but it's all people, no packs. all people, no special interests. all people all the time, everywhere, every single day. that's how we're going to win this election. >> cecile richards, herself a daughter of texas and a daughter of texas' only woman governor will join us next.
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i mean, it couldn't in some ways be better timing because thou there are 29 days to focus on everyone's energy to turning up to vote. and as you know in mid-term elections, there are plenty of votes to win. it's just getting the folks out. >> it's hard to get people animated, hard to get them to feel there's some stakes in a mid-term, and that's why this kind of confirmation really provides that. >> absolutely. and i feel like even if it was going to sort of go away or settle down the president seems to be completely committed to throwing kerosene on the fire as he did tonight. i think women are -- they're looking at who controls the judiciary committee. this was all-male, you know, majority who jammed through this appointment. and were so disrespectful of dr. ford, of other women who came forward. and women understand that. that's the thing i think republicans have forgotten that sexual assault and sexual harassment and not a partisan issue. this is an issue that affects women everywhere.
>> ted cruz voting for brett kavanaugh on the senate floor. beto o'rourke saying he would have opposed this nomination and talking about why yet another reason why the democrats need to take back the lead in the senate. >> i think what's also exciting for a lot of women is to see senator kamala harris, senator amy klobuchar, mazy hirono, seeing them stand up for women as well as men on the committee was inspiring. >> what are you looking for in this senate race, and there really hasn't been a democratic challenger in texas for a long time? >> it was exciting. they saw thousands and thousands of people. something they haven't seen in years since progressives won those races.
this is the first time democrats have contested every single congressional race in the state. we have got lizzy fletcher, the first two latinas coming to congress from tex. it's a new day for texas and people can feel it everywhere. >> i remember the first convention i went to was 1988, and walked into the convention hall and your mother was at the podium delivering the speech, because like beto o'rourke, she knew exactly what she was talking about and why. and you knew what she felt about it. and she took whatever the complex subject was and made it easily deliverable in a speech. and that was what i was seeing when i was watching him on the stage. >> i think that's right. i mean beto is talking about a different kind of politics where every person is respected. and, you know, our basic humanity, that's what texans want to feel. and i do think he has that same sort of anne richards appeal.
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it's time to add senator mitch mcconnell to the list of people who do not actually understand what the word "literally" means. >> we were literally under assault. these demonstrators, i'm sure some of them were well-meaning citizens, but many of them were obviously trained to get in our faces to go to our homes up there, or to basically almost attack us in the halls of the capitol. >> no, they were not literally under assault. no one tried to assault a single republican senator. but thousands of people, especially women came to washington to make their voices heard to fulfill their responsibility as citizens.
and yes, some of those women yelled at senators, but none of them yelled louder at senators than the nominee he was opposing and refused to answer many of their questions when he was under oath. and none of the women yelled as loudly as republican senator lindsey graham did in his emotional and fact-free defense of the nominee who had already yelled at senators. so the republicans in the senate proved that they like -- that they just like all-powerful people, the only kind of yelling they don't like is yelling at them. amy schumer was one of hundreds of people who got arrested last week while making her voice heard in the week while making her voice heard in the senate. she was not content to make her voice heard with her cousin, senator chuck schumer, who is the minority leader of the united states senate. she knew cousin chuck already agreed with her, so amy brought her voice to the senate. after being arrested, amy
schumer said on instagram, we need to vote, we need to get our friends and family to vote. i don't feel angry, i feel excited and ready to fight. change is coming. and everyone telling me to lose weight, you first. nadya tolokonnikova has lost weight in prison. she wrote a book called "read & riot, a pussy riot guide to activism." i found this passage in the beginning where you say nothing ever happens without protest, and you quote many americans, senor chavez and other protesters, and that seemed to be a model for you.
>> through just being really articulated, and so sometimes you even need to yell and shout at somebody, and yeah. i'm quoting bernie sanders and he's saying, quote, 100 years ago, we didn't have workers' rights and kids had to work for 16 hours a day, and look at these radical changes that had happened. he's quoting -- he's saying it because a lot of people right now are saying, oh, change is not possible. but look at history. women did not have the right to vote 100 years ago. now we do, but there's still a long way to go. we have to dream and we have to find, you know, a new positive carrot in front of us and just fight for it. >> you talk about how you learned that nice talks never work with those who have power
over you, and what you're talking about is the guy who was running the prison that you were in, who was -- you were constantly in conflict with and you were trying to get the, what was it it, 12-hour days that you had to work every day reduced and other conditions you were trying to get changed? and so you were fighting against that every day. you were not succeeding most of the time, but you had protesters on the outside who were lending you moral support. how did you deal with your own disappointment about not -- when you had setbacks? >> i would talk with people who were more vulnerable than i am. so let's say i'm sitting in the corner and i'm really sad about myself, i'm thinking too much about myself, and then somebody is approaching me and it's a woman, and she's really ill and she's not getting any medical treatment and she doesn't have lawyers. she doesn't have family and her
husband is not with her anymore because he doesn't give a flying [ bleep ] about her. i do my best to protect her, but i'm not the almighty god but i'll try and do my best. that's the trick, when you start to think about other people more than yourself, then you feel yourself better. i started that hunger strike because i had so many people coming to me and asking me for help, and i was trying to explain it's just me, and by myself i can't do a lot. but if you join me, we could do together a lot. but they were frightened because it's really dangerous to protest in russia and -- >> the danger we've seen more than once includes the possibility of being poisoned, as peter, your former husband was. how is he doing now? >> he's doing better. he's still weak because he didn't eat for two weeks.
he was unconscious for the first three days, and on the fourth day he was transferred to berlin. we found a private plane to bring him from russia to berlin, then german doctors said it was poisoning, most likely was poisoning. because they didn't find a compound, but they said it might be a drug that the russian military service used, so they cannot find it. he was in delirium for two weeks and it was really scary. someone you know who is a really smart and thoughtful person, he's talking about red cats running around, it was scary because we thought maybe it was brain damage and he'll never recover. >> it takes much more bravery to be a protester in russia than it does here. nadya, thank you for joining us. i really appreciate it.
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let's do the work. (engine starts, hums) i worked for the senator who coined the phrase, everyone is entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts. daniel patrick moynihan is the subject of a new documentary now playing at the film forum here in new york city and will be opening at the film festival in beverly hills. one of the issues senator
moynihan studied and wrote one of his many books about was government use of secrecy. here is some of that moynihan documentary. >> it's a romantic delusion that there is a secret. there are none. when things are kept secret, they tend to be wrong. keep that up and you will miss huge events and occupy yourself with marginal and unimportant events. >> in many ways the 9/11 commission report is an outgrowth of what moynihan was saying about this. the cia with these massive silos of secrets that they couldn't distinguish the value of. the fbi had massive silos and they couldn't distinguish what has value and what doesn't. >> one of my colleagues on the republican side said you couldn't have a senate with 100 moynihans, but you sure need one or two.
>> the film premieres in new york city and comes to d.c. friday the 19th. the president apologizes to tonight in a victory lap for the white house the president apologizes to brett kavanaugh on behalf of the nation and falsely claims his new supreme court was proven innocent. the president rallies his side by calling the kavanaugh opposition a hoax. he says the democrats are an angry mob. tonight after what the country has been through, how might it affect the midterm elections just 29 days from now? trump invited rod rosenstein on ars force one and said they had a good talk. more on the mueller investigation. "the 11th hour" begins right now.