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unclear how the turkish government determined that he had been killed. as we said, some serious business to end our broadcast. and that is our tuesday night broadcast. thanks to you for being here with us. good night from nbc news headquarters here in new york. tonight on "all in". >> you cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for. >> drawing the battle lines. >> you don't give power to an angry left wing mob. and that's what they've become. >> tonight as the party of trump paints the majority of americans as an angry mob, new evidence their campaign is not working. plus -- >> ted cruz, tough as texas. >> why today could be decisive for beto o'rourke's quest to unseat ted cruz. >> you stick a finger in their chest and give them a few choice words. new questions about a russian bank's connections to trump tower. as nikki haley leaves -->>
respected. >> just how respected is america in the world? >> as nikki said, the world is really respecting the united states again. and "all in" starts right now. good evening from new york, i'm chris hayes, we are now 28 days from the midterms and republicans and trump tv have their message. they are not running on tax cuts or health care or really anything they've done. all they've had unified control of government. what they are running on is that they are the last line of defense against you. the angry mob. otherwise known as the majority of the country that disagrees with republicans. >> the radical democrats have turned into an angry mob. >> the far left mob is not letting up. >> they have encouraged mob rule. >> anyone who's a trump supporter, we're all targets of this. >> there is only one party that has normalized violence in america in the last two years and it's not the republicans. >> that is mob rule. >> with this mob rule -- >> mob rule --
>> about a mob rule. >> basically mob rule, no law and order. >> do you want mob rule? >> yeah, the average citizen, if you're on the right, should be concerned in danger. >> how do you keep the base fired up when you've just won again, play it like you're the victim and constantly under attack. it's essentially the mission statement where tucker karlson spends each and every night with warnings of an out of control violent left. look at that, it's kind of his thing. don't be mistaken it's because they see this strategy as a political winner in the wake of the kavanaugh protest. take this scene as reported by "the washington post" when thousands of furious, screaming protesters marched towards the capital as brett kavanaugh was confirmed. they were not alarmed, but elated. there has been some evidence that the kavanaugh fight energized the gop base, at least in the short term. but there's also evidence that when people get really, really mad at you, you're probably
losing. remember back in 2009, spurred by lies about obamacare death panels, pulling the plug on grandma, the tea party confronted even yelled at, screamed at democratic lawmakers. this was before the right suddenly became so concerned about "mob rule." here's the thing, in the subsequent midterm election democrats lost 63 seats on their way to losing the house. all that right wing anger had consequences and it looks, at least at this point, like this anger just might as well. according to a new poll democrats now have a 13 point edge in the generic house ballot, 54 to 41. republicans seem to think that their last best hope to limit the damage is to convince their base that if they don't vote they will find themselves at the mercy of an angry mob of pitchfork wielding liberals. joining me now congresswoman
maxine waters, target of trump tv and the president this summer when he encouraged supporters to push back on the trump administration officials in public. you've -- this is mob rule, being assaulted in the words of mitch mcconnell. what do you think about that? >> well, i think it's absolutely ridiculous. it's not believable. as a matter of fact, this country was built on peaceful protest. and those of us who were part of the civil rights movement, who understood the power of protest taught by dr. martin luther king and others know that we cannot allow donald trump and anybody else to take protests away from us and to deem it to be violent and to try and make us look like a mob. it is because of peaceful protests, not only in the civil rights movement, but the labor movement was able to get better wages, able to get better
working conditions, able to get better way, everything because they learned to march and protest. and they still do it today. we know that protest is guaranteed to a democratic society. we know that this is guaranteed to us by the constitution. they're trying to change the description of protest and call it a mob. well, this president is the poster boy for what a mob protester looks like. he is -- matter of fact he's the one who has been violent in his speech. he's the one in his rallies have said things like this, i'd like to punch him in the face. trump said that at one of his rallies, he said knock the crap out of them, would you, and seriously, okay, just knock the hell -- i mean, i promise i will pay the legal fees. that's the kind of talk that he has done. that's violent talk. with don't have that kind of talk that has come from the
women who are protesting. as a matter of fact, this country is past due for the kind of protests that we have seen women do in the last few days. as we have gone through this confirmation process of kavanaugh. it is time for women to say that we're tired of being disrespected. we're tired of being, you know, called out our names, et cetera, et cetera, and, of course, this sexual assault that so many have gotten away with for so long is over. the me too movement have gotten us started, the marches that we've been doing, we're not going to back down, you're not going to intimidate us, you're not going to frighten us, you're not going to take away our right to stand up for ourselves. and guess what? while they're trying to say to families you've got to be worried about your boys, families know, families know, first of all, they've got to be worried about all of their children. but they also understand, if
their daughters are to grow up and to have careers and to have confidence and to be able to realize their full potential, now is the time to embrace them and stand with them as they push back on the abuse of power by people like the president of the united states and mcconnell. they have abused their power. i've never seen anything like this before. they have run over us. they have refused to respect dr. ford. they've refused to bring forth the witnesses that are knocking down the doors of the fbi saying let me come and tell you about what was happening with kavanaugh. not only in high school, but in college. and so we're not going to allow them to take this false message that they're trying to carry, the american people, trying to make them believe that we're an angry mob. we're not going to let them get away with that. this president will try anything. and he will change the
conversation if we allow him. but now we know we can push back on it. >> let me ask you something. i want you to respond to something that hillary clinton said, i thought that was notable, and she's someone that obviously has a reputation in the united states senate as a first lady for bipartisanship, she's worked with people across the aisle, this is what she had to say president republican party and civility. take a listen. >> you cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about. that's why i believe, if we are fortunate enough to win back the house and/or the senate, that's when civility can start again. but until then the only thing that the republicans seem to recognize and respect is strength. >> what do you think of that? >> well, i like that, and listen, i understand and i know what protest is all about. of course it will make others feel comfortable. but you don't go around saying,
may i please protest you? no. you gather your strength and you take it to where it has to go. and you will make people uncomfortable. that's what change is all about. >> i want to be clear on this. there are people who hear that and they think what you're calling for is physical intimidation, things that fray at the social fabric, that make people cower at the possibility of violence, of setting someone off who is perhaps unwell. i want you to respond to that concern. >> well, that is absolutely untrue. if they would like to take and redefine, somehow, protest, and call it something else, they'll try and do that. they'll try and get away with that. but that is not absolutely true. you don't hear us talking about hitting anybody. punching anybody. killing anybody. you have one of the trump supporters that said you bet i liked it, knocking the hell out of them big mouth -- the next time we see him we may need to kill him. you don't hear us talking like that. when we protest, yes, we're shouting out.
we have signs. we're saying what we think. we'll get to the public. and we are not saying we're going to kill anybody, we're going to hit anybody, or we're going to cause anybody any harm, that's a lie in the way that they're trying to redefine protests. >> congresswoman maxine waters, thank you as always for making some time. >> you're welcome. for more on the political landscape, ahead of the midterm elections, i'm joined by betsy woodruff, and dave wiegle. i wanted to talk to you, dave, i remember when you and i were both covering the tea party in 2009 and 2010, it's a crazy kind of inverse image, lots of angry people, i remember peopling shouting at members of congress right in their faces and this was massively celebrated and stoked, there were big fox news shows all about it and times seem to have changed. >> i was flashing back to the exact same stuff. i was also flashing back a little bit to two years ago and change when hillary clinton used a line she'd been using
different versions of and said that half of trump supporters were in the bask of deplorable they still use it. they made that the theme of the next rally, they were the deplorables, embracing the idea that they were scary and energized. hillary clinton's campaign made this attitude in a lair that swing voters who weren't comfortable with her were going to jump over because they couldn't stand the thought of an angry group of people taking over -- not that every election is a mirror version of the last one. but there's this fatal conceit of the entire trump presidency, that a president who only won -- of the vote, can minimize everybody else. that's not been true over the election -- special elections we've seen in the last year. it's not true in the house polling that you pointed to now. >> it's striking me, betsy, that the successes and the victories don't seem to provide the emotional motivating force that
republicans feel that their base needs. so the kavanaugh win or the tax cuts, it's like it has to be that you're under threat and under peril is the means why you get vested. >> that's a fact with which the trump campaign is intimately acquainted. if you talk to people in ted cruz's orbit who are close to cruz's 2016 presidential candidacy. the moment they saw trump's numbers go up and cruz's go down was a night in march of 2016 when protesters in chicago mobilized and kept trump from being able to have a rally in that city. cruz folks will tell you that when that protest happened, a number of republican primary voters saw it, fox news covered the whole thing live, wall to wall coverage, republican primary voters saw it and they decided whoever these people are
protesting must be doing something right and that's a big part of the reason, it's obviously not the whole reason, but it's a really important moment for understanding why trump did as well as he did with republican primary voters. and that's part of the reason that people in trump's orbit right now are surprisingly delighted to see some of these protests. it's a really interesting paradox. that the protests we're seeing from people who are deeply concerned about the trump presidency simultaneously bring a lot of the heartening and enthusiasm to the left but also perplexingly enough give trump potentially an opening to go after his biggest critics. >> there's always this bang shot reasoning, if the people i don't like are angry then the thing they're angry at must be good. that can apply in lots of places. there's also the fact, dave, you've covered grassroots politics anywhere in the
country, flying around, i saw you do it with the tea party, and one of the lessons i've learned from your reporting is anger equals activation and organizing. there is a lot going on among people in opposition to the trump administration in the republican party. >> there is. and everything betsy said was right. but i'd emphasize again that was the republican primary electorate. that's been an issue with the administration is that they are intimately concerned with whether republicans are excited to vote and thinking less about adding independents onto that. the idea that these independents alienated by protests, it's something they've been trying for 18 months. when -- he was running the most mellow campaign you can imagine. a lot of attack ads focused on anti -- j-20, groups that protested the inauguration. people were throwing bricks in the windows, setting things on fire. that was going to be part of the message into this election. >> great point. >> i've seen it in direct mail all the time. it was going to be part of the message. what was striking about the
protests last week is i think some of them looked ridiculous, if you're neutral on this, people banging on the door of the supreme court yelling no, that seems like a tantrum. they were not violent. there were some people made fun of in ways that were mean, but this was not the collapse of order, it was just a lot messier than you see in d.c. it was a lot like the 2011 protests in wisconsin, which i know betsy and you both covered very well. republicans remember that as the moment when they took back the state, they energized the party. they did. they also lost wisconsin two years later and only picked it up with donald trump. the dynamics of having a lot of angry people in the streets. now, if they're all doing something violent and counterproductive. that's one thing. the people i know at this protest, i know having covered them, literally flew back from d.c. to their states to go dock on doors. they are ten times as energized as they were. >> that's the part of the question. part of the story i heard from republicans was, if kavanaugh
goes down, you will deflate the republican base, betsy. but it's also the case that i just feel like the way the news cycle is, right, like election 30 days from now, something's got to sustain that activation, and that seems to me what the message mongers on the right are trying to find that will keep people pumped up. >> i was chatting with a well-connected republican, political operative a little bit earlier this evening who said that generally speaking the view from republicans in washington is that the kavanaugh confirmation just is not any sort of major game changer. when it comes to the midterm elections. i don't think any serious republicans who are familiar with good data are under the impression that it's making things substantially or statistically significantly easier for them. and that's part of the reason that we're now seeing so many republicans as your radio montage showed, almost highlighting the fact that people on the left are really mobilized and protesting in ways
that are extremely visible. congresswoman waters made a very point to you, these kind of protests make people uncomfortable, for conservatives, for people on the right, for people in trump's orbit looking not necessarily to court independence, but solely to mobilize their base voters that discomfort can be politically weaponized. that's what we're seeing trump and his associates try really hard to do as we go into the final weeks before the midterms. >> betsy woodruff and dave wiegle, thank you both for being with me. i'll talk to beto o'rourke about his fight to unseat ted cruz, and why today a month before the midterms could be decisive in his attempt to turn texas blue. beto o'rourke joins me in two minutes.
if he does he might look back on today as the moment that made it happen. that is because today is the last day to register to vote in the state of texas. this year has seen a surge in registered voters a jump of 1.6 million since the last time texas held a midterm election in 2016. o'rourke trails ted cruz by five points in the latest polling. a super pack released this ad directed by an oscar nominee attacking cruz. >> somebody left open my door the other dash ted cruz, tough as texas. if somebody called my wife a dog and sad my daddy was in on the kennedy assassination, i wouldn't be kissing their ass. you stick a finger in their crest and give them a few choice words or you drag their ass out by the wood shed and kick their ass, ted. come on, ted. >> joining me now is texas congressman and democratic senate candidate beto o'rourke. congressman, i should be clear you do not approve of that
message. that is an independent group spending on your behalf. we're running this one with people. no packs, no spreshl interests, no outside interests, going to everyone in the 254 counties of texas, today at texas southern university here in houston, after that at rice, yesterday at lone star community college, we are with people who have been counted out or written off, young people not expected to vote, we're with them so when when he win they're a big part of the reason we do. they are the leaders of this moment. and they're showing up and they're registering as you just said and they're making a commitment to vote on october 22nd, our first day of early voting in texas. >> part of the problem for democrats is that texas, when you look at it from a 30,000 foot view, it seems like the vote should be there.
turnout in texas is the worst in the country. 2006, 2010, 2014 it's at the very bottom with voter turnout around 30%. what is your understanding of why that is? >> so, don't take my word for it. the courts four times last year found people have been drawn out of their congressional districts based on race and ethnicity, drawn out of a reason to vote, drawn out of their democracy. the onus is on us to transcend that, give irch a reason to vote, showing up in every county and within every community. nobody off, taking no one for granted, giving everyone a reason to vote and help to set the expectations to which i'm going to perform in the senate. and you see that on these college campuses. you see that in the third ward or cashmere garden here in houston, you see it in every community we go to, going to the
rio grand valley, listening to those who've been taken for granted for too long and hence haven't shown up to vote. we're showing up for them right now in this -- go ahead. >> yeah, those are places, the places you mentioned are some of the lowest turnout in the state of texas, already a low turnout state. those places you just mentioned, particularly around the border in the rio grand valley, what do you tell them about why it matters for them to vote for you to send you to washington and not ted cruz that is tangible to deliver back to them? >> a couple of things that have come up in these town hall meetings, especially along the border. ted cruz has promised to deport every single dreamer. i say free dreamers. keep families together. never take another child from another parent and let's insist that every child who's in a foster care home in michigan, a tent city, be reunited with their parents immediately,
rewrite immigration laws in our own -- in the united states of america, not in spite of, but because of the fact that we are cities of immigrants, nothing to wall off or militarize or be defensive about or apologize for. it's the example that we have set that can help lead this country in the right direction. i tell you what, never a better time to be on or from the border. the people of the border want to lead. but we need to show up and make sure that their leadership is included in this campaign and then in our service. >> the ted cruz play here, and i'm curious what you think this campaign is about, right, if you were to say what the one issue is, it seems to me that he thinks that he can kind of get you on cultural issues, that texas is conservative and he's a conservative and he can kind of push you away like that, on the issues, what do you see as the top issues in this race, in terms of substance between the two of you, things you stand for, things he opposes?
>> health care's a great example because i hear about that in every single county, no matter how red or how blue. we're the least insured state in the united states of america, number one provider of mental health care services the county jail system. ted cruz has insisted that we repeal every single word of the affordable care act, including protections for preexisting conditions. i want to expand medicaid, offer medicare as a choice on the exchanges, get to universal, guaranteed, high quality health care for every single man, woman and child. there cannot be a greater difference than that one. on immigration, he wants to deport the dreamers. i want to make sure that we have a legal path to citizenship for those who want to come out of the shadows and be with their families. criminal justice reform, i know that we have a school to prison pipeline that begins as early as kindergarten. i want to make sure we have equity in education, end the war on drugs, end the prohibition on marijuana, expunge the arrest records for those who've served
time for possession of a substance that's legal in so much of the rest of this country, get on with their lives, better themselves. these are the issues of substance people are asking me about wanting us to lead on. >> let me get you on the record of judge kavanaugh, would you have voted to confirm him? >> i would not have. we're 50th in the country, as you said in voter turnout, by design, on purpose, some people not intended to vote. we need a supreme court justice who believes in voting rights. in a state where you can be fired for being gay, a supreme court justice who believes in civil rights. a stay at the ep center -- a justice who believes in a woman's right to make her own decision about her own body and have access to the health care that ensures that he can. he fails the bar on each and every single one of those tests. the next justice to be nominated can only be confirmed if he or importantly she can meet those qualifications. i'm going to make sure that we hold the president to that bar for each and every single one of
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murky a lot of people including us at "all in" decided to keep our distance. it did not help on the exact same day slate published the story "new york times" published this investigating donald trump, fbi sees no clear link to russia. now almost two years later with the mystery of whether the trump campaign criminally conspired with russia still unsolved, the new yorker is revisiting the story with an extensive investigation into that cryptic web traffic. consulting with experts who ruled out almost every benign explanation for context between a trump server and a russian bank. after a group of computer scientists analyzed the data, one of them told the magazine "we decided this was a covert communication channel." franklin foer originally broke the story in 2016. he's now national correspondent for the atlantic. natasha bertrand is a staff writer for the atlantic. frank, starting with you, you wrote a great piece reflecting
back two years ago. i remember that piece. everyone's denying it. what did you learn, how was the story advanced in the two years since you've first wrote about it? >> well, it's only margin ally advanced. the lot of computer scientists were looking at this data in realtime and they said there's something raem funny here that this bank in moscow is communicating with the trump campaign. there was a whole series of suspicious, very circumstantial pieces of evidence and data that suggested that it was a covert communication channel. but it was just a question. and we've had this scandal, this big scandal and there's so many plot points in the scandal it's hard to keep track of all the different stands. so i wrote this article and it kind of disappeared in this haze in the week before the election when everybody thought hillary clinton was going to be
president. and nobody really returned to it until -- except for the fact that behind the scenes there were other teams of computer scientists, other investigators, other people in the senate who were saying this data is suspicious. we need to interrogate the data more. and unfortunately it's two years later. dexter fillkins, a great reporter, has revisited. ruled out communication between the servers but we don't know a lot of fundamentals about the story. >> there's a lot of stuff, a response saying oh, it could be this, mass marketing e-mail, this, that, which i think i remember at the time i was sort of persuaded by. again, it's all technical. fillkins does a good job of knocking it down. there's one detail that's so mysterious, natasha. so there's the trump domain, it had been shut down after -- so "the new york times" is reporting on the story. they contact the alpha bank, moscow bank, the domain gets
shut down after the times contacted alpha bank's representatives, but before the newspaper contacted trump. max, who's one of the computer scientists, an alias, says that shows a human interaction. that is pretty weird. >> i mean, what more evidence do you need? it's very, very obvious. and it's really razor here, the fact we've still not been able to rule out the idea that was a covert communication channel -- no one has come forth with a plausible explanation for why this is happening, why it's one of three organizations communicating with the trump server in the months leading up to the election is completely remarkable. i think the fact that frank's story got overlooked or criticized as much as it did and the fact that now it's being revisited and you have the editor of the "new york times" saying that there, you know, was
a story there just shows the lack of imagination, really, that we were operating with, in the months leading up to the 2016 election. i mean, at that point, to see frank's story come out on october 31st, to see the story about the steele dossier, which was also published in october 31st, and no one paid attention to because they just could not believe that this actually had any merit, i think, is, you know, and the fact that we now are still revisiting those two things, the steele dossier constantly over and over again and these questions about the alpha bank trump organization communication, it just shows how far we've come and how far our -- or how much our imaginations have grown with regards to what the trump campaign and russia both were capable of in the election. >> and yet, frank, to your point, also about how much we don't know still. >> yeah. >> that's what's maddening about the whole thing, there's tantalizing detail after tantalizing detail, all sorts of ways we know the russians were trying to get the trump campaign, all sorts of ways we know the trump campaign was receptive. connections you can map out. and yet it still feels like the fundamental truth of what transpired is not presently known. >> right. so we have all this evidence,
this deep, rich evidence about the motive of the various characters. >> yeah, exactly. >> we have the motives of the trumps in the people around the trumps who were willing to collaborate with the russians, wanted to collaborate with the russians, we have the russians who had this massive campaign to actively try to influence the election. and everything suggests that they should have met in the middle and colluded with one another. yet when we look for specific evidence of collusion it doesn't quite add up to what it seems like it should be. >> right. >> so you have this kind of missing middle and the story, this great gaping hole in the sta center, what happened there during the campaign? and really, journalism has been struggling for the last two and a half years to get to that point. and we make incremental advances but rereally haven't been able to get to that point. that's why the mueller investigation is ultimately so important. and all of these enigmas should be answerable given what he's got to work with.
>> finally, natasha, do you expect they're still doing their thing? >> absolutely. i think the consensus now, among people who are familiar with mueller's kind of m.o. is that he's keeping a low profile before the election because he doesn't want to commit the kind of, you know, grave sin that comey committed before the election with the hillary clinton e-mail investigation. so i think that this investigation is far from over. and i'll just add with regard to the idea that we really don't know still what's going on between the trump organization server and alpha bank. alpha bank had a real knack for making reporters feel like they are the crazy ones. so if they're -- trust me, i'm saying that from personal experience. they're very litigious. part of the reason why there's been such a delay and so many obstacles to reporting the story out is because alpha bank has made the concerted effort to preserve their image here in the united states and in the west and that's a big problem for journalists trying to uncover the truth. >> franklin and natasha, thank you both. still to come, nikki haley
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please don't take her. no, no. >> mommy. >> no, no. >> mommy. >> no. no. >> there's a reason that the stealing of children is the stuff of dystopic nightmare the. argentina children were taken away and given up for adoption by friends of the regime. now children that have been taken away from their parents by our government could end up being adopted without parent consent. incredible associated press investigation drawing on hundreds of court documents, immigration records and interviews in the u.s. and central america identified holes
in the system that allowed state court judges to grant custody of migrant children to american families without notifying their parents. while in past u.s. administrations it has been unusual for parents to be deported while their children stayed back in foster care and custody in the u.s., according to the ap, more than 300 parents were deported to central america without their children this summer alone, many of whom allege they were coerced into signing paperwork they didn't understand affecting their rights to reunify with their children. some parents also contended u.s. officials told them their children would be given up for adoption. more than 200 children are not eligible for reunification or release. it is unclear because it is so difficult to track the precise status of these children. the child separation fiasco showed the trump administration's capacity for cruelty and its capacity to lie.
look at the two years. look at what has happened in two years with the united states on foreign policy. now the united states is respected. countries may not like what we do, but they respect what we do. >> part of the job of being in the trump administration is telling obvious ridiculous lies so you and ambassador nikki haley in announcing today she would be leaving her post at the end of the year spoke of how respected we are after the trump administration's amazing two years. well, a new pew research poll shows how america's international image has actually taken a beating. confidence in trump stands at just 27%. no confidence at a whopping 70%. a plurality says the u.s. is doing less to help address major global problems, and 70% say the u.s. does little or nothing to take into account the interests of other countries. you know who is feeling good about the trump administration? the despots of the world who have been given an explicit green light to do whatever they want, including our close allies
and friends the saudis, who the trump administration has completely thoroughly embraced, basically giving them carte blanche, even as they go about starving the people of yemen. and now the saudi government it appear mace have murdered and possibly dismembered a saudi dissident and u.s. resident who writes for "the washington post" named jamal khashoggi. he disappeared from the consulate in turkey a week ago and has not been seen since. for now i'm joined by very contributor to the intercept, and you interviewed khashoggi just a little while ago. tell me about him. >> so this is a saudi journalist, chris. this is not some democrat opposition member dissident. he was a saudi journalist, respected in saudi arabia, a former adviser to the saudi royal family, member of the establishment, chris, and he started writing articles critical of mbs, the crown prince de facto ruler of saudi
arabia, and he felt he had to leaf because he was being told he couldn't write certain things. he couldn't tweet certain things. he was worried about his freedom so, he left saudi arabia and moved to the u.s. and became a "washington post" columnist. i interviewed him a few months ago on my show and we kind of joked in the green room beforehand, chris, about his personal security. mbs was in town and i was joking how safe would he be with the crown prince in the same city. what's happened today is horrific. this idea that he was murdered maybe, killed in a premeditated deliberate fashion by a saudi hit team in istanbul, it's still hard to get your head around. but that seems to be what happened. >> the details are that he went into the consulate in turkey for what appeared to be a visa issue with his wife, and his -- or his fiancee. his fiancee waited for him. he never emerged. the saudis say they're investigate it, but all of the circumstantial evidence seems that they did something with him. >> indeed. and the turkish accomplish investigating say there is cctv
of him going in but not coming out. they have 15 saudis arriving on that day and heading for consulate. they have a convoy of cars heading for the airport. two private jets came into the country carrying saudis that then flew to egypt and the uae. and the saudis you know what? he left. do you have video footage of him leaving, cctv? oh, cctv wasn't working. well don't have the tapes. oh, that's convenient. the guardian is reporting today, chris, that turkish consulate staffer were told to go home that day. the cctv has disappeared. it does point in one direction, that mbs, notoriously thin-skinned took out this critic, a very mild critic. which means if he can do this to a saudi national, a mild critic of his on foreign soil, what hope does that leave for people at home protesting. ask the canadians. the canadians did a mild tweet a few weeks ago about releasing political prisoners. the saudis lost their minds, kicked out the canadian ambassador, cut off all commercial ties.
he cannot stand any criticism and he has been emboldened by donald trump. >> this is one who came to the u.s. tom freeman essentially wrote a love letter to him. he is this amazing reformer. >> nauseating. >> the american elite. everyone from the rock is having dinner with him and tweeting about him. >> yep. >> he is given this sort of hero's welcome. this is the t guy that is going to remake saudi arabia. the trump administration has clearly backed him four square. this is part of what appears to be a real crackdown he has been undertaking even before this ghastly murder that he is now accused of overseeing. >> it's not just -- as you say, this is going on. he rounded up women's rights activists and detained them. he rounded up scholar, clerics, businessmen, economists. he rounded up his own fellow prince and basically did a shakedown, extorted them for money, billions of dollars. and he comes to the u.s., as you say. and you have jeff besos, laughing around and taking pictures with him.
the silicon valley chiefs and dwayne "the rock" johnson and michael bloomberg all suck up to him. and i've not heard a word from any of the liberals, forget the conservatives, the liberal american media, where is the outcry from them? i'm still waiting to hear any outcry about the crackdown or this alleged murder. he came to the united states and was treated as if he was the jfk of the middle east when it turns out he is really the new colonel gadhafi of the middle east. >> here is what strikes me about this. this is a very brazen thing to do. they know that they're not going to -- they know that the people will notice, this right? there is cctv. the turks are furious about this for obvious reasons. this was done on turkish soil, even though it was done in a consulate. you don't do this unless you think you have the running room to do this kind of thing and not hear any consequences from your sort of most important ally, the united states. >> and this, chris, you're exactly right. and this of course happened when he did the roundup of his cousins and the princes. this guy took power in basically
a palace coup. he knocked off the former crown prince, his relative, and took over from him. he rounded up other princes and took money from them. you don't do that in a key ally of the united states without getting the green light from washington, d.c. many would argue that his friendship with jared kushner has provided him with a direct line to donald trump. donald trump likes strong men. just last week in west virginia, he said the saudi king, i love him heft is a friend of mine. don't forget, chris, where did donald trump go first when he was elected president? the very first president not to go to canada or mexico. he went to saudi to do a sword dance with the saudi royals. he loves these guys. so of course they will have gotten a green light for the crackdown, for purge, and now for this alleged murder. i can't believe, and you look at the comments coming out over washington, d.c. mike pompeo saying the saudis should conduct a thorough investigation. what, they're going to investigate the murder they carried out? how does that make any sense? >> he disappeared in their consulate. i keep hearing people say there should be an investigation. it should be unhand the man. >> cctv. there is no cctv.
>> produce him or you are guilty. thank you so much. i really appreciate it. >> thanks, chris. >> that is "all in" for this evening. ambassador nikki haley announces her resignation. the president said she brought glamour to the job, but what's next for haley and who is next at the u.n.? there is a storm hours from arrival tonight that might have the power to knock politics off the front page tomorrow. tonight the strengthening hurricane michael and the danger it poses now to lives and property and the gulf coastline. "the 11th hour" on a tuesday night begins now. well, good eveni