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and that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." follow the show on facebook and on twitter and here's ali velshi and stephanie ruhle for "velshi & ruhle." everybody should vote. >> everybody should vote. >> just vote. >> that's exactly right. >> people died for -- >> wednesday morning, saying there's a record turnout for midterm elections. that is the right that we have -- that people have died and fought for. thank you. >> thank you. >> that will be america getting the job done. good afternoon, everyone. i'm stephanie ruhle. >> i'm ali velshi. monday, november 5th. let's get smarter. >> i think we are doing great in the house and in the senate. but who knows? right? if the radical resistance and that's what they are, takes power, they will move immediately to reverse america's progress. they want to take away and destroy your health care. you look at what's marching up.
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that's an invasion. so if you want more caravans and you want more crime, vote democrat. it's very simple. >> i'm hopeful that on tuesday we are going to cut through the lies and the noise and the nonsense and i'm hopeful we're going do remember who we are. what kind of politics we expect is on the ballot. how we conduct ourselves in public life is on the ballot. >> races are in dead heats. almost everywhere that matters because -- >> one day left, nearly 35 million americans have already cast their ballot. >> i think we may cross 100 million total vote. when you have a turnout like this, it makes polls -- going to make pollsters look ridiculous. >> i don't know if it's a referendum on him but i think you will see supporters galvanized because of him. >> i believe that trump has a heart for america. >> this midterm, jobs, the
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border, you know security. >> i think that our nation took so much a step back ward in 2016. >> i want to vote and do what i need to do to have my vote count. as to what's going to happen, i just don't know. >> all right. we are now less than 24 hours away from history being made in america. the 2018 midterm elections. >> and this just in to nbc. already -- i love this stat. more than 35.5 million people have voted early. that is 35 million great americans who have exercised their right to vote. momentum is fantastic. 35 million is not enough. do not stop. keep going. every vote counts. >> by this time, by tomorrow, by the end of early voting in 2014, it was 21 million in 2014. so great on you. this is not a presidential race. your vote is going to matter in these super close local and
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state races. your vote is a direct message to our politicians. more women are running. more minorities are running. >> more veterans are running. more millennials are running. more science-backed candidates are running. >> this i love. a force of knowledge against the forces of ignorance. >> we're going do say it one more time. do not stop. keep going. >> you vote batters. the balance of power is at stake. we have nbc news road warriors fanned out across the country right now. >> our teams of reporters, photographers and producers are on the ground covering the key races. we have a jam-packed hour planned. you better stick with us. start with nbc's kerry sanders. he is live in tallahassee, florida. all right, kerry. there's a new quinnipiac poll out that has andrew gillum up 7 over ron desantis in florida. walk us through how they've walked into the day and they have a few hours left. >> reporter: well, as you look at this, with those polls it
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certainly has an impact on voters. now, remember. when we're looking at those who have early voted in the state of florida, we have a record number of early voters. 5 million -- i have written it down and tried to memorize it. 5,094,645 early voters at the polls and when you break it down by the party affiliations, assuming people are following their party affiliation, 40.1%, republicans and 40.5% which are democrats so let's break it down a little bit more now and take a look first at the republican candidate, ron desantis out of nowhere with the endorse. of president trump that took him through the primaries to where he is right now. and if those voters who believe in donald trump are motivated to go to the polls and that's the big question, it may be that he does get the votes he needs. however, one of the big questions that both republicans
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and democrats are asking is whether the republicans who supported donald trump, those who have been showing up to his rallies, whether those who voted for donald trump specifically voted for donald trump because they were energized by him. folks not really politically active before and while they're paying attention now may not make their way to the polls tomorrow and begin to vote. this will be a historic election no matter which way it goes but if andrew gillum is elected the governor and he is speaking confidently telling the "tampa bay times" if elected the first call he's going to make is to the former governor jason berkeberke berken -- jeb bush, the republican, to get advice but just saying that that's who would he call first if he's elected is showing some confident. finally, stephanie, if you see that sign that says emergency voting and you are wondering what it is. here in leon county, they set up
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the day before the election what they call emergency voting. these are for people discovering that tomorrow they're unable to go to the polls. they missed the early voting and so this one day today they can come in and still cast their ballots so people are already voting here in this part of the state in florida. >> all right. thanks so much. >> all right. let's bring in nbc's gabe gutierrez live from donna, texas. gabe, everybody's looking at that race, too. beta o'rourke. what are you hearing? >> reporter: hey there, ali. we are here in donna, texas. and this is the epicenter of the immigration debate right now. behind me is the encamp. that the u.s. military is building right now. of course, the immigration a hot button issue in the last few days of the campaign as president trump really ramped up his rhetoric to try to rally his
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base. now, we are here in hidalgo county. beta o'rourke underperformed in many of the border counties and spent time in the area since then and mckalin area and brownsville trying to get out latino voters and they could make up a major -- could make a major difference in whether he pulls off this upset or not. in the county, more than double the number of voters already voted here in this election than voted in the 2014 midterm. about 31% of eligible voters so far but this's less than other major counties in the state. for example, traverse county and the dallas area, other areas where o'rourke has to have surging turnout to pull it out. we have been seeing the u.s. military days before the midterm election, hundreds of troops are here trying to build up this encampment and told that it will be used for border patrol agents and for the military to sleep
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here and stage equipment even though the caravan that president trump is stressing is hundreds of miles away. >> hundreds of miles away. remind the viewers. it was what? two weeks ago the president stressing to america they were coming to vote. do you know what that was? a lie. preying on fear and lying to the men people. bring in nbc's ann thompson. she is in pennsylvania which is part of the state's 1st congressional district north of philly. that's country ali velshi is familiar with. ann, walk us through this. we know democrats are vying for the house. is the first congressional district in pennsylvania one to help them do that? >> reporter: yeah. they say all eyes tomorrow will be on this district, steph, because they say if this district flips and goes blue it will be the first sign of a potential blue wave in the house. so let me set the scene for you
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here. we are in bucks county, pennsylvania. it is notoriously an area where people split their tickets. this first congressional district is redrawn between 2016 and 2018. this area went for hillary clinton by two points in 2016. but the town i'm in went for donald trump by three points. health care is a big issue here and as a result this congressional race pollsters say is a toss-up. let me show you the latest poll from "the new york times"/sienna college. it is fitzpatrick, the incouple bentd republican, first term congressman, 47%. scott wallace with 46% of the vote and see how close this race is. it's one of the most expensive races in the country because of its significance. take a look at these spending numbers. scott wallace, the democratic challenger, spent more than $13
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million. most of it his own money and brian fitzpatrick spent $12 million. now, fitzpatrick who is the republican incumbent has positioned himself as a moderate, he says he is willing to work across the aisle and voted against the repeal of the affordable care act, better known as obamacare. scott wallace on the other hand tried to tie fitzpatrick to the president and really stress the fact that wallace will protect pre-existing conditions because, again, health care is a big issue in this district. steph? >> all right. let's go do ali velshi. take us to the board and walk us through it. >> you will see it for a few days. the dems need 23 seats to control the house of representatives. now, that means they might lose or gain some and a net gain of 23 in order to control the house. a net gain of two to control the senate. this is possible. likelihood is lower than the
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likelihood of this. these states here are what democrats are targeting. these are republican-held seats. all across the country. push into this a little bit to see all of these yellow districts are independent house districts that are in play. these are places that democrats want to take from republicans and think that they're in a position to do so. so this is key. now, as you can see, they need 23. i think we are looking at close to 60 here. so the democrats, if they do very, very, very well on tuesday they may take more of these. however, there are some districts that republicans are targeting that democrats are in control of at the moment. there are 11 seats -- well, not 11. ten seats that democrats -- that republicans are targeting that are currently held by democrats. so, this 23 that they're looking for, they may have to increase that number if they lose any of these seats. now, that's the house. let's take a look at where the senate is right now.
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this is -- these are the elections being held for the senate in two states. there are two elections. special elections for the senate. but let's take a look at what has to happen. nbc believes that there are 42 -- the senate will -- the democrats can safely say that they've got 42 out of the 100 seats in the senate. republicans have 47. but we think that these 11 are in play right now. new jersey, nevada, arizona, texas, montana, north dakota, missouri, indiana, tennessee, florida and west virginia. here's how this gets complicated, stephanie. take any random three of these that republicans win. let's just say it becomes texas, north dakota and let's say nevada. i'm not speculating that is what happens but gets the republicans to the 50 they need to control the senate and that's why the house is a much bigger battle for democrats because even if they take all of these states and republicans take any three, democrats don't get control of the senate.
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we're watching this very, very closely on tuesday night to see what democrats win in the senate but their likelihood of taking control of the senate is lower than the likelihood of taking control of the house. this is where all of the excitement is going to be for the next 24 hours. but remember, as we just saw from texas we are going to be watching that race very closely. democrats have not been competitive statewide there for a long time. >> joining us now is our guests. msnbc's senior editor of politics beth fuehy. i want to talk about what matters in the midterms. sahil, to you first. we talked so much about health care and the economy. you have candidates, republican candidates, like josh holly in missouri, like martha mcsally in arizona straight-up lying on the podium, in advertisements about
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protecting people with pre-existing conditions when if you do your homework you know they haven't voted that way. coming to voting tomorrow, do these lies work? >> this is turned out to be the biggest liability for republicans in the election cycle. who knew that obamacare would be an asset to democrats after losing elections in 2010, so many races an that basis. this is an excellent question as to whether this kind of distortion, this kind of deception, yes, lies to a point, are going to hurt republican candidates. >> they knew they were lying because they think it helps them in the polls. >> they voted -- most of them voted for the repeal and replace bill in the house and the senate. they're arguing that they voted that they fought to protect pre-existing conditions. you have several attorneys general in west virginia, for instance, who are running for senate supporting a lawsuit that would wipe out the aca and the entirety. they have not found a good answer to this question. >> tom, let's just talk about the voting. we have had massive voter
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turnout and speck latting about 35 million people have voted so far. in 2014, the entire early and absentee vote about 21 million. so that is massive. but as you heard these breakdowns, it's democrats and republicans. lots of people going out there: looking at the 35 million number, does it tell you? >> it tells us a lot. this isn't the typical wave election. the last two midterm elections were wave elections for the republicans and what happened there is republicans very energized. democrats weren't. they stayed home. in this election, democrats are certainly far more energized and we are seeing that in the early vote and the surges of traditional constituency, younger voters, african-american voters, latino voters, a lot of first-time voters but republicans aren't staying home. we are seeing republicans show up in the early vote and raising questions going into tomorrow, for sure. >> all right. beth, let's say the democrats take the house. will that mean that america will get more bipartisanship and
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things get done or will it mean more gridlock and investigations? we cannot forget one of the reasons the president is so aggressively out there is he's most worried about the robert muell mueller investigation. >> sure, the democratic -- if we get democrat ek control of the house, the committees will do investigating of president trump, the business ties, the cabinet members, no question about it. but, you know, it is a double-edged sword as it is for democrats if this happens because we have heard from polling and through reporting, many, many people don't like president trump but they really are sick of gridlock and sick of fighting and that is a potent message to some voter who is are sort of figures out where to go and done with trump, sick of the way he's conducted himself in the presidential -- as president but they don't want to see just endless fighting going on so by saying, look folks, electing democrats to the house, you're going to get more of that. it's impossible to get anything done. it's not an insignificant
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message for a lot of people and the fact that the senate is likely to stay republican as we know, it's very hard for democrats to move legislation out of the house that's meaningful that senate republicans support, as well. so we are likely to see a whole lot of fighting if that is the sort of split scenario that many people are predicting for tomorrow night. >> all right. we are going to be watching it very, very closely. it is incredible. see the voting numbers and we don't know how they're breaking. i'm very pleased this people are going out to vote. doesn't matter who they vote for. >> just go out there and vote. thank you all so much. we have a lot to cover in the next hour. >> yeah. number one issue on voters' minds, the issues that are drawing millions of americans to the polls. they're not just who you're mad at or who you like. there are a llt ot of issues. >> people want to live their best lives. first, women, women have smashed the records in this election.
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welcome back to "velshi & ruhle." the midterm elections are less than 24 hours away and we're not talking rhetoric and fearmongering. we are looking at the issues that matter most to voters. two thirds of americans consider the economy their money and jobs a very important issue. even more important than hot button issues like immigration or gun policy. now, a strong economy should translate to a very big win for republicans in crucial house and senate races so why isn't this driving their message to voters? well, for one, wages. wages just starting to rise up after years of stagnation, up 3.1% over the last year. here's the problem. cost of living increases are eating that up. a recent poll from gallup shows
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64% of voters say they have not seen an increase in their takehome pay and republicans promise that the tax cuts would mean raises and more money for the middle class but for more than half of americans polled, that's 51%, they say the tax cuts did not help financially at all and the president's new promise for a tax cut is nowhere to be seen. it is made up. he said it was voted on this week. it is a lie. one issue even more important to voters than the economy is health care and it seems like candidates are making that part of their platform heading into the election. nearly half of all advertisements for candidates running for federal offices are focused on health care. so in a nutshell, it matters. joining us from phoenix, arizona, vaughn hilliard. you are in arizona. talking health care. tell us what the voters are actually telling you. >> reporter: it does matter, stephanie, because what we are
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looking at tomorrow night is one third of the electorate that consider themselves conservatives. and i'm going to introduce you to billie. this is what she told us. >> are you registered? >> independent. >> independent? >> yes. >> how did you vote in the senate race? >> kirsten. >> do you usually vote democrat? >> no. well, i did in the presidential. >> last presidential you voted for clinton. >> i don't like donald trump. she was the lesser of the evils i thought. >> what did you think of john mccain? >> i loved him. i think he was a wonderful man. and very independent. he did well for arizona. i miss him. >> you didn't vote for martha mcsally. >> no, i did not. >> what would your message be for her? why not vote for her? >> i think she is too wishy washy and i don't think she
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tells the truth. >> does an issue stick snout. >> the pre-existing conditions. since i'm so elderly, that's important. >> reporter: stephanie, it is individuals like billie, she mentioned that martha mcsally voted for the house bill in 2017 that would have weakened protections for those with pre-existing conditions. she was an mccain supporter. in 2016, john mccain won by 13 points in arizona. donald trump won it by 4 percentage points. how many individuals tomorrow at the polling locations that perhaps voted for john mccain are not voting for martha mcsally and turning to the democrat who's essentially marketed herself as the bipartisan individual in the race and the person that's willing to work across the aisle? stephanie? >> all right. vaughn, thank you. >> that one -- that mcsally stuff is weird. she was so vocal in the
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opposition of obamacare. >> remember the vote? >> yeah. >> let's get this expletive done. i want kacandidates fair and square. >> on what they believe in. joining us now, adviser, john weaver and sahil is back with us. what we talk about all the time is the economy's not bad, not equal. unemployment is lower. more jobs have been created. on most measures if i were the communications director for the president i would have that underscored all the time. are democrats worried about that and why aren't republicans doing better because of it? >> i don't think democrats are worried about that because i think one of the things that stephanie was talking about that voters care about is health care and the economy and when i say the economy the last three weeks
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to moving, competitive races and started off in california 45. michig mimi walters voted there and voters told me there they were annoyed and they were worried about the economy voting for that and worried about their taxes going up. this is a district that has never been held by a democrat. and so, and they went back 90 years so those are the things that they were concerned about so the economy, health care. so as long as democrats talk about, yep, you know what? tax cut, they're blowing a hole through the deficit and you know what? mitch mcconnell will cut entitlements, medicare, medicaid and vs. because they're in a deficit. because of the tax plan and what democrats are doing and that's what i'm seeing. in texas and california and georgia and where i was last
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weekend. >> john, i don't think it's a mistake that president trump is not talking about the economy. i actually think it's a miscalculation on our part. when he goes out to these rallies, he's in parts of the country where the economy isn't serving them and riles up that base on immigration and other cultural issues and we know he's got their votes but then i think he's got a silent voter we are not accounting for because the economy is winning for the investor class, for the ceo class and he didn't have their votes when he ran for president. in fact, the market -- the market participants thought his unpredictability to make him bad for the markets. that hasn't been the case. i think he's increased the base with all the people who aren't coming out saying i'm voting for him but they will because they their portfolio. >> we'll see. i'm not so convinced of that. when was the last time we saw a country of 65% think the economy is moving forward but yet 65% of the voters think they're unhappy with the future and nervous
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about the future? that's never happened in our country. so when you look back and ragan going through the recovery program economically or bill clinton in the recovery program economically, they were optimistic about the future even if wages were lagging indicator and what trump is doing is putting a wet blanket on that optimism which is hurting him and the party. >> more than a wet blanket. smoking and dark and -- it's dystopian. the ads are crazy. >> if americans feel like they haven't felt the positive of the tax cut yet, but they feel good about the economy, why wouldn't democrats come in and say, we're going do lead you through the economy? they're relatively quiet. it is like they cede power on the whole economy subject to republicans. >> interesting. because they're not really talking about that. because it's a hard argument to make. that job creation started with president obama. do you think -- donald trump said today. don't let the media tell you
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this is a referendum on my performance. what's it about? is it a referendum or about the issues including health care that top the list? >> midterm elections are always a referendum on the president to a point. the economy tends not to be as important. i think in the last several decades, we have seen a stagnation of median wages and why the economics picture is mixed. the president tells a good story on jobs, unemployment, on the stock market and median wages are gobbled up by the rising costs of health care and college tuition. >> people angry they don't have money in the pocket, this leads to the hate rising, that leads to the immigration fear issues. it's rooted in economics. >> and that is why we see the president talking so much about immigration. this was the centerpiece of his 2016 presidential campaign. he believes this is going to fire up his supporters. may not save the republicans in the house because has going to hinge on upscale suburbs where it doesn't work very well and there's somewhat of a red wall
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in the senate seeing the rural trump state that is voted for him by huge margins and that where there aren't a lot of immigrants and motivated by the issue. that could save him the senate. >> we'll talk more about immigration because -- >> please stay. >> this president has a lot of people warped the issue and one of those things that america needs to grow it needs immigran immigrants. >> but taking your security away that could motivate them to vote with him which is why i don't know why more democrats don't defend the positions. >> that's the impression you get from the ads. america will be overrun by murderous, thieving immigrants. all right. >> or socialists that want to turn us into venezuela. both of those things are called lies. next ur, voter suppression,e issue is getting attention in georgia and not just georgia. how some voters are kept from the polls throughout the country when we come back. but first, minorities
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running for office in record numbers. democrats nominated at least 133 people of color this election cycle for the first time white men are in the minority among democratic house nominees. >> wow. you are watching "velshi & ruhle" live on msnbc. we'll be right back.
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during paid breaks "so that they can respond immediately when needed." vote yes on 11. welcome back to "velshi & ruhle." the contentious race for georgia's governor is more fiery. brian kemp, also the secretary of state and in charge of the election, accusing state democrats of trying to hack voter registration. >> no fact or evidence behind this. >> none. he's asking for a federal investigation. he's called in the fbi by the way. as you said, he had no evidence. the fbi will say tell us something. they'll look into it. democrats calling it unethical and yet another attempt at voter suppression. >> kemp is facing accusations of trying to suppress the minority vote. his opponent stacy abrams would be the nation's first black female governor if she wins and this allegations are not just in
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problem in georgia. activists raised concerns in north carolina, kansas, north dakota and texas. the alleged tactics affecting most minority communities. this is 2018. >> right. >> please. >> this shouldn't be a problem. i want to bring in rehema ellis live in marietta, georgia. kemp announced these allegations two days before the election. he does oversee elections. a lot of people think that's weird. >> could have recused himself from that, though. >> the point is this is kind of -- he is on the wrong side of the issue versus stacy abrams for a few years and she is fighting for increased voter rights in georgia. what is going on on the ground there? >> reporter: among voters and some of the folks we were talking to, a person said specifically she thinks this is dirty politics. another said they're trying to confuse voters. another person said they don't trust anybody at this point. so voters are overwhelmingly
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saying that they're tired of this. they want this race to be over. other people are also saying that they do understand that georgia does have a history of voter suppression. what exactly is happening in this particular race some of them are saying it still remains to be seen but everyone here is saying they think it's important that people go to the polls because this race as you're talking about between stacy abrams and brian kemp neck and neck at this point and if ever one vote counted certainly it's in this particular race. 53,000 some odd people according to one estimate are on the pending status in terms of whether or not they'll be allowed to vote. and in other places, people are wondering whether their absentee ballots will be counted appropriately. so, again, on the ground what they're saying here, guys, is that they think something is happening here. they don't know exactly what it is. but voters are tired of it. they want to talk about some issues that you've been talking
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about. they mention education, transportation, immigration and health care. and so many people that i have talked to at this supermarket and other places are saying, they wish the candidates were talking more about those issues. >> all right. let's bring in tremaine lee in atlanta, georgia. rehema said something, a voter said i don't trust anyone. before brian kemp came forward with this -- where there's no facts, no evidence he's shown that now maybe democrats are hacking the election, is he successful in doing exactly that to voters? confusing them. just making them feel like the whole system at large doesn't work. >> my vote won't count or something like that. >> that's right. thinking about the cloud of suspicion and concern around this election in particular where the margin is so tight and so thin and it may very well come down to young voters who are already feeling into the frenzy around the race and not lost on many people. in georgia, with such a long
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history of racist voter suppression and the candidate in brian kemp who has been alleged to have taken part in some suppression into now. but young people may very well divide and determine the outcome of this race. between georgia and texas, early voting, among those under 30 years old already up 400% compared to 2014. the last time they voted in midterms. but to go back to your question, whether the suppression activity actually works, it's the swirl, the frenzy around it to depress some folks on the margins about coming out to vote regardless. >> there is a little bit of context other than the fact that kemp is a secretary of state. but stacy abrams is what she is involved in for years. she is trying to get greater voter turnout in atlanta and trying to get these voter i.d. laws changed. where does that stand right now? because there are a whole bunch of people who, again, aren't
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sure whether they're going to be able to cast a ballot if they go out to vote tomorrow. >> there is a lot of concern and a lot of fear because even those who were in pending status in terms of registration, tens of people who registered by the deadline still have yet to be cleared whether they can actually vote or not. and so, the suppression activity that we have seen across the south, they kind of emerge under the obama era where republican legislatures enacted the laws and felony disenfranchise. and disrupted whole voting blocs across the south. as you mentioned, abrams has been critical in georgia for many years in terms of trying to not only bring in new voters but in enfranchise those that lost their rights and talking about the most marginalized voters, young people, the elderly, those who may not have birth certificates to show and prove who that are, this is a
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detrimental affect for decades but now as the race is tightening, we'll see if those suppression activities or the barriers between folks and their vote and the franchise chips away three, four, five, 10,000 people and may sway one way or the other. >> all right. thanks very much. >> all right. president trump, he made immigration a key issue in this election. he's injecting fear into his base claiming immigrants hurt america's economy. here's the thing. that's not true. we need immigrants to fuel the economy. we're going to explain the practical, data-backed economic reasons for immigration and flush out the fearmongering nonsense being delivered to you.
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all right twoch. two of the president's favorite topics, the economy and immigration. before taking office, the president and his economic team talked about getting the country's gross domestic product growth to 4%. he said 5% and 6%, as well.
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so now this is something it's not done since the 2000s but there's a key ingredient to hitting and sustaining high gdp growth and that is workers. labor force. the president's team celebrated when the june jobs report came out finding out there were more open jobs, 6.7 million of them, than people available to fill them. 6.4 million. but it could be very well an indicator that the administration needs to expand immigration into the united states rather than limit it. in the year 2000, the cdc touted the news of the u.s. meeting the replace. rate for the first time since 1971, that's the number of births per year for a generation that is needed to replicate its numbers. keep the labor force up. people have fewer children and maintaining or growing the population is an imperative that requires steady or even in america's case increased rates of immigration. since hitting that replace.
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rate in 2000, the fertility rate has bumped up a little bit. this is births per 1,000. look whereat we have gone here. bumped up a little bit and started a steady decline a decade ago. we are simply having fewer babies. as americans retire, the number of workers per social security beneficiary on the downturn meaning we need more immigrants to sustain the economy and contribute to your retirement if you'd like that to happen but a new rule proposed by this administration could put a chill on immigration. the department of homeland security proposed creating new criteria that would disquality immigrants if they were like lil to use government subsidized medical care, housing and food benefit programs seven for a short time as part of an anti-immigration calculus and the belief that immigrants come in and suck up our social services paid for by real americans. but other than the fact that legal immigrants pay in to these
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systems analysis by the libertarian coto institute found that while they use food stamps if you will, and medicaid at slightly higher rates than native born americans, the use of other programs on level, with or far below, native born use and another study found that immigrants with a near lynette zero impact on budgets and actually a net positive benefit on revenue to all governments according to a study by the national academies of sciences, engineering and medicine. the idea of too many immigrants in america or immigration is a danger to america is patently false, stephanie. >> okay. here's the issue. what you did and took two minutes to do it is explain in a detailed and fact-based way the impact of immigrants in this
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country, pair that against someone with a podium or an itchy twitter finger saying the immigrants fill your schools and then teach spanish so we can't teach gym and those same people saying the so we can't teach g gym and those immigrants will fill your hospitals. that's a much easier message for the president to put out there and people believe it. what you delivered was actual facts. i would hope and pray that people will listen. jo you pointed out some statistics to our team. in 2014, there were 2.9 million immigrant entrepreneurs, that means job creators. that same year foreign born entrepreneurs made more than $65 billion. in 2007 there were 5.9 million people employed at immigrant firms. this is not about americans
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being nice and let the immigrants in. >> it might be nice, but that's not the point. >> why are these cold hard facts that help our economy and the american people, why are these lost in translation to the president's message. they're filling your schools. >> it's a lot easier to pivot when you want political expediency. no one can deny the country is chapgi ing changing rapidly. after 2010, all of a sudden it went down. it was when immigration started getting neutralized. 50% of births were of immigrant families. when you start talking about the fact that yes immigrants take a more of benefits from medicaid and housing, it's for american children. the majority of the folks talk about is americans reaping many those benefits. we have to have a conversation is what do we do with the 11 million undocumented now that are contributing.
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how do we talk about future immigration. that's a grown up conversation to have. how do we recognize that a lot of these undocumented immigrants pay $11 billion to our economy back in tacks evexes every sing. they pay more than the president of the united states. >> this should be a bipartisan conversation. there are lots of republicans with very, very sensible views of immigration. lots of states run by republicans where they realize we need guest worker programs and all sorts of things. our conversation has focused on it's a boogey man. we have an immigration problem and it's not the one donald trump keeps talking about. >> thanks in large part to this message that was pushed by rush limbaugh and fox news. it's only gotten worse. we have to deal with this. i'm hopeful that not in the time
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between this midterm and 2020 but the next president will have a unique opportunity to fix this once and for all. we can move forward. >> to maria's points, these immigrants using assistance, they are using it for their american children. is that the issue that sort of that far right audience is bighting onto that those children don't deserve to be americans and that's where we got to president trump's argument that last week seemed absurd to us, but is it not absurd to lots of people out there. >> he's jumped the shark the last two weeks. if you look in areas where there's a lot of immigrants or even people here illegally, those voters in those areas are moving back to the democrats or rejecting that message. in lily white states they are holding firm with the president. he jumped the shark. we're seeing a refrtrenchment bk to the voter level. >> you tweeted a lot about this.
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the short answer to this, immigrants are something americans need. >> could i add kwone fact. it was studied over 20 years and found for every one job that immigrants take, they add 1.2 jobs to the economy. their net job creator. a lot of them are small business owners. the biggest beneficiary is native born americans in is not backed by the evidence. there's no evidence that illegal immigration leads to an increase in violent crimes. there's evidence that first generation immigrants commit crimes at lower rates. >> when we talk about the economy when they create 1.5 jobs, it frees women to go back to work. it allows all of woman that may have to take care of their parents and children, it doubles it. immigrants complement the work we need to do. >> we talk about it all the time. remember, we do not have
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president trump is speaking out about a campaign ad he tweeted last week that is racist. >> it suggests there's a connection between undm undocum immigrants and crime. >> i don't know about it. we have lot of ads. they are effective based on the numbers that we're seeing. a lot of things are offensive. your questions are offensive a lot of times. >> he did know a nationalist was a dog whistle to white supremis supremists. >> thanks for watching this hour.
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don't ron burgundy yourself. >> thanks, katie. >> he's going to go have a scotch. >> i love scotch. it's 11:00 a.m. out west and 2:00 p.m. here in georgia where i will be live through election day and where in less than 24 hours the democrats hope to pull off a historic win. stacy abrams could become the country's first female african-american governor if she's able to defeat brian cake. if she's able to do that it could be in part because of early voting. over 2 million people have already cast their ballots in this incredibly close race. at this point in 2014, that number was under a million. georgia isn't the only state to see the early voting numbers surge. 30 million p h


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