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split decision with democrats taking control of the house and republicans holding onto the senate. here's where things stand at this moment. are you tired? in the house democrats flipped more than two dozen republican-held districts, grabbing the majority for the first time in eight years. among the republican incumbents who lost, dave brat and barbara comstock in virginia. illinois congressman -- in the senate, republicans actually added to their majority. red state democrats like joe donnelly, heidi heitkamp and claire mccaskill all lost while republicans like ted cruz held their seats. governor races, democrats gained ground in states like wisconsin where incumbent lost to tony evers. republicans held onto the biggest prizes, including florida and ohio. no matter how you interpret tuesday's results, one thing is clear, there will be lots of new
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younger faces in government come 2019 and a lot of them, i'm proud to say, are going to be the faces of women. as of right now the number of women who have won elections or reelections to congress is at at least 110. that's a new record. but even at this hour there's still a number of very important races yet to be decided. among them the florida senate race, considered too close to call with the republican rick scott leading the incumbent. democrat bill nelson, by less than half a percentage point. that is tight. montana's senate race also too close to call. the republican challenger, matt rosendale is ahead of the democratic incumbent, jon tester, with fewer than 2,000 votes separating these guys. the governor's race between brian kemp and the democrat stacey abrams is still up in the air. there are reports that thousands of absentee ballots still need to be count. we're also waiting for a call in
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the state of connecticut where the leading candidates for governor are separated by only 18,000 votes. don't forget, every vote counts. and finally in arizona where the senate race between republican martha mcsally and democrat kyrsten sinema was a dead heat before election day. at this point it is still too close to call. these two women are separated by less than one percentage point. von hillyard is in arizona. the result is a woman and it's the first time a woman holds this seat from the state of arizona. but tell us which one. how soon are we going to get this answer? >> the reality is we probably will not know today. we will probably not know tomorrow. maybe tomorrow evening we'll start to get a little bit better sense. this could roll all the way, nine, ten days. essentially there's still 500,000 votes that still need to be count. that's 25% of the vote. and the interesting part about this is well, martha mcsally is
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up by about a percentage point over kyrsten sinema statewide. in maricopa county, making up 50% of the electorate in the state, most of the votes are left uncounted and here maricopa county, kyrsten sinema has a one percentage-point lead. it's interesting talking to both camps late into the morning as well as the data guru at the arizona secretary of state's office. both campaigns believe that they have this race. and there's a sincerity to their belief. i was breaking down with the data guru at the arizona secretary of state's office and it all comes down to really a matter of the votes that were turned in at the polling location yesterday and which candidate that broke in favor of. the reason this will extend for so many days is because they have to go and verify the signatures, we're talking about 350,000 ballots which were early ballots that folks hand-delivered to the folling location. and those will be counted over
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the next several days, stephanie. both camps are holding out. we said going into yesterday if this is less than 1.5% we're going to be talking about this race for several days. guess what? we're at a percentage point difference and that's why we're up here, stephanie. >> thanks, von. let me turn to decatur, georgia where the governor's race is still too close to call. tell me how this will get resolved. we cannot forget brian kemp is running for governor, and he runs the election process there. >> yes. one of the reasons why stacey abrams always said that this was going to be a tough race for governor, and she really was right as you're pointing out, and it was around 1:30 this morning while she was trailing in the votes she came out and she told an enthusiastic crowd of supporters that they cannot give up on this race yet. meanwhile it was also a very positive sounding brian kemp, as you point out, he's the
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republican secretary of state, who was sounding very positive about his chances. but stacey abrams told the reporters this race is not over until every single one of these votes are counted. listen. >> there are voices that were waiting to be heard across our state, folks are opening up the dreams of voters in absentee ballots. and we believe our chance for a stronger georgia is just within reach. >> we are waiting on the final result, but i'm confident that victory is near. and together we will continue to work to put hard working georgians first. >> abrams believes there are thousands of absentee ballots and a significant number of provisional ballots that will count in her direction, narrowing the gap between her and brian kemp, leading to a special runoff election which she thinks will give her another chance to still win this election. when is that going to happen? that will happen if and when she
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gets the numbers she's hoping for in this ballot count. and we think that those provisional and provisional ballots -- those absentee and provisional ballots, i should say, they'll start counting them sometime today. stephanie? >> thanks so much. joining me now, i have a fantastic panel this morning. steve israel, outgoing republican from pennsylvania, congressman brian costello, a national political reporter, and charlie sites contributing editor of the weekly standard. and cornell bellcher. democrats gained big in the house and they lose ground in the senate, what does that tell you? >> well, look, every referendum in the history of referendums, every midterm in the history of midterms is a referendum on the president, particularly on the house of representatives. this year you had a senate landscape that favored republicans just because of the
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math. but in the house of representatives this midterm was a referendum on president trump and he badly lost that referendum. how did he lose it? number one he lost it with women. number two, he lost it with independents, women broke against him the day after the inauguration. and so any way you look at it, this is a big gain for democrats. >> charlie, i need you to help me out. i'm confused. in the senate the lines got clearer. three red state democrats lost, moderates are leaving office. so what does that mean for legislation in 2019? because when you look at the exit polls, people are not happy with how divided we are. people don't care as much about the russia investigation as we thought, they want to lead better lives. if these two parties continue to go their separate ways, they're not actually serving the people who vote for them. >> no. and i think that you're going to have government that will be more divided. all of the division that we've seen, the red and the blue, the
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mix mixed verdict, i think is going to lead to more partisan ware fare. it was a referendum on donald trump, but he's going to feel validated with the caravan, with going with american carnage, all of those tactics, succeeded in the senate and of course now the democrats have got to decide how do you stand up to donald trump given this super majority now that -- not a super majority, but an expanded majority in the senate? but i would expect that the partisan hand to hand fighting will intensify, if anything, as a result of yesterday's election. >> intensify. and america wants us to work together. all right cornell, i want to ask you about the democrats' next move here. we know democrats won the house. i want to share what eric swalwell said. >> we're not going to lead with investigations, not going to look the other way. the president in the last two years has said he wants to do
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infrastructure, the dream act, wants to do background checks and reduce the cost of prescription drugs. republicans never brought those bills forward. we will conduct the investigations that republicans wouldn't conduct. >> can you do both? i remember last night before they even called the house we heard democrats were demanding president trump's taxes. and i thought to myself, i want to see his taxes too, but if health care is what people voted for, that's not what democrats are leaning into. so now they've got the house. which direction do they go in? >> look, they can chew gum and walk at the same time. i mean, it's -- >> this isn't those -- >> but yeah -- >> chewing gum and walking and working with the president you're investigating are not the same thing. >> but they are. you can chew gum and walk at the same time. it is completely okay for congress to do its job and to hold the president accountable, and also move legislation on infrastructure. it's not that difficult. congresses have done this before. the president has done some things that are fairly outrageous, and push the boundaries of law and yes
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congress's job is, in fact, to check the president. that is a fundamental job of the congress written into the constitution, yes, they should be overseeing the president, overseeing the government. but yeah, they also can move infrastructure and yes, they can also reform health care. it's not -- they're not opposite things. >> i'm with you. so to that exact point, what cornell is talking about is our elected officials putting country first. but do you believe that president trump can actually work with the likes of elijah cummings, nancy pelosi and maxine waters. >> there's a lot of talk that president trump wanted an infrastructure package. that would involve going against his conservative flank, which he doesn't like to spend money. that's one issue. for the most part, stephanie, i think president trump's legislative agenda is dead. he can get something on immigration if he gives up a lot. but he's not going to put 11 million people, legal status for them on the table and democrats are not going to give him his wall unless they get something
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big in return. but saw a blue wave in the house, a red fortress in the senate. as swalwell pointed out, they're going to talk about -- there's going to be a constitutional check on president trump. they don't want to make it sound like a partisan thing. the senate is going to become a factory for confirming judges in their 40s and 50s backed by a federalist society. this is mitch mcconnell's big goal. there's not a huge difference between 51 republican senators and 54 or 55. >> it is to those three. >> it is to those three. but in terms of big picture, the main impact of this is in 2020, republicans are facing a tough map then. democrats are going to have a much harder time taking back that chamber. you can see a situation where dems win the presidency and the house in 2020, but get locked up in the senate. that is the final impact. >> i just want to break in for a moment. we have an apparent winner in the connecticut governor's race, ned lamont, democrat from
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connecticut, a win for the blue in the state of connecticut. congressman costello, the president issued a warning to democrats thinking about launching a investigation. if the democrats think they are going to waste taxpayer money investigating us at the house level we will likewise be forced to consider investigating them for all the leaks of classified information and much else at the senate level. two can play at that game. >> it's a rallying cry to the base. i agree with steve, this was an election where ting political parties have more than ever sorted themselves into the party of trump and the party against trump. we saw pickups for republicans in the senate -- >> congressman, the base is all the way out here, just like the resistance is all the way out here. the exhausted majority in this country got up yesterday and voted, more people voted than we normally see, far bigger than the base. don't they count for something? >> certainly. my point was simply that tweet is not a tweet about let's do
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infrastructure, let's find some common sense, even incremental immigration reform measures, let's do any number of other things that we can agree on, that's, all right, democrats, game on. that's what that tweet was. i think steve can agree with that. i will pick up something on what heel said right here, the other thing we're going to see in january, if not before, are some cabinet folks stepping down. it makes it a lot easier to get some of those nominations through with 54 votes rather than 51. >> can i just in on this? i don't think donald trump realizes, number one, that he lost, and number two, why he lost. he lost by antagonizing those independent swing voters the weekend before this midterm election. that's when the intensity really broke for democrats. doing those kinds of tweets where he's saying -- >> that's barbara comstock winking at you, mr. president. >> doing those tweets saying i will outinvestigate the democrats in the house, that further pushes independent swing voters away.
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they voted for the president because they wanted checks and balances. and now for the president to engage in divisive rhetoric, it further alienates them and it's the best thing he can do to keep them with democrats. >> can i jump in real quickly? when you get into the nuts and bolts of the exit polling here, this is what i think is problematic. 49/49. democrats came as close to winning white women as we have in my lifetime. that should send a message to trump and the trump republican party about sort of the divisive politics. >> look, trump didn't run on infrastructure. he didn't run on the economy. he ran on race. he ran on an invasion of brown people. and democrats ride to run on health care. but democrats also have to not see the ground about tribalism. we have to have an answer to tribalism that says we've got to bring america together and give the moderate women a softer place to land because they don't
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like the divisiveness. >> if democrats can get pragmatic, charlie sikes, i ask you, will they gain ground in regaining white men? >> well, that's going to be one of the really tricky questions. i will say that, you know, this is a time for democrats to go back to the drawing board a little bit and recognize that moving hard left is not the way necessarily to win these elections. you know, we've been focusing a lot on the florida. look, really surprised that florida, which has a zero income tax, would vote against a very, very progressive democrat. so to a certain extent the future for democrats is, in fact, to move toward the center. not everybody's going to agree with me. but unfortunately at the same time you have a lot of moderate centrist republicans, some of the trump critics, who were wiped out in the house of representatives, republicans who lost, like barbara comstock. it is interesting, the center has shrunk on the republican
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side and it's going to be interesting to see whether or not the democrats are going to be able to move to the center now. >> well, maybe some of those centrists lost, but they can be proud about who they are in the long run. cornell, stay right there. i'm going to bring steve kornacki yes. he's at the big board. hail steve kornacki for a moment. you are the champion of champions. i cannot believe you are still awake, i cannot believe how much you know, what you've done, you are my hero. give us an update. >> incredibly kind of you, stephanie. in a buildup i can't live up to the expectations. but montana, the senate race here, the votes are still coming in, it is still too close to call. we have been telling this story since the wee hours of the morning. it's remained jon tester, slightly behind matt rosendale, the republican challenger, the margin is 1,987 votes. but the story we've been telling you all night, and it's really crystallizing right now, where are the outstanding votes from? it really does look like the
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republican areas, the strongly republican areas are all reported and it leaves you with -- supposed to click mizzoula here we go, a big democratic area, university of montana, there is still a lot of vote to come there. there is still a fair amount of vote to come from cascade county. there is still a fair amount of vote to come from the bozeman area. a significant number of votes to come there. if it's about a 2,000 vote gap you can certainly look at the outstanding vote there and see a path for tester to get in the lead. we've been saying it for hours now. he has still not caught rosendale, but we are running out of republican areas from the state to pad that lead for rosendale. tester still has to leapfrog him, but you can still see the path for him to do that. arizona, you mentioned this a moment ago. the margin, 15,000 votes.
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we're getting one report on the ground there, trying to track down, that we may not -- it may not be until thursday that we get more votes out of maricopa county. hundreds of thousands of vote we may not get until thursday. a minute ago, that outstanding governor's race in connecticut now, ned lamont, a radio station in new haven, connecticut that says bob stefanowski got on the air and conceded. he was leading all night and in the last couple of hours lamont took the lead, hartford and bridgeport, two largest cities in the state, overwhelmingly democrat democratic. stefanowski ran out of real estate. in georgia, unknown number of absentee and provisional pal
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lots, if there are enough of them we expect they probably would break democratic. would it be enough to bring kemp under 50% and force a runoff? possible. think of what we saw if you were awake overnight in wisconsin where that race was neck and neck and they found a bunch of absentee ballots in milwaukee county, 47,000 of them, broke overwhelmingly or -- a late batch of absentee provisionals can change one of these races. >> steven quickly, ted metz. >> it's preventing both from getting that 50% mark. that would be his effect. that would force it into a runoff. georgia, very unique among states doing this for a governor's race. >> my goodness. steve kornacki, again, bravo to you my friend, no one quite like steve. coming up, women winning big taking at least 110 seats between the house and the senate. that, my friends, is a record.
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i think we can have a great effect, i think we can have a transformative effect because a lot of us are used to breaking through barriers.
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as women that's what we've been doing our entire career. and so to go somewhere, to have that challenge before us is not daunting. it's sort of par for the course. >> that's a jersey girl right there, speaking truth. it is the year of the woman, women across this nation smashed barriers in this year's historic midterm elections. at least 110 women, 98 for the house and 12 in the senate won their congressional races, nine women won governor's races, 29-year-old alexandra cortez. ilhan omar, and deborah haaland, first native american women elected to congress. that is good news. mara gay, and congressman israel
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back with me. mara, i've got to go to you first. what do you think led all of these women to run and win, especially after president trump won so many women said we always thought we were going slowly in terms of equality. we never thought we would move backwards. these have been divisive bullying campaigns who stood up and won? the girls. >> it's absolutely true. i mean, i think that it was really a vindication for so many women who saw dr. christine blasey ford, who saw stormy daniels out there and who saw their daughters and thought to themselves i want better for them. that really struck a bipartisan nerve that kind of won independents as well and brought them into the fold. they also -- women especially outperformed in suburban districts. which i think is really key. we're not really talking about the trump base. but in suburban districts women won large. i think it was a reminder as
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well that trump's base doesn't necessarily reflect the country as large. and i think women are kind of the way to make those inroads. a majority of americans voted for hillary clinton. that majority last night, plus others who were moderate republicans, who were independents, came out big last night and said this is -- they looked at donald trump and they said this is not the country that we want. >> john, when president trump won we often heard that there is a rise of the fear of the country growing more diverse. and we saw a lot of white america not comfortable with that. >> that's right. >> when you look at the people who won last night, not just women, diversity is in play, you've got the first openly gay governor of colorado, a native american women winning, the first muslim woman to win. >> demographics is destiny. the country is changing. >> except in the 2016 election. >> well, perhaps. again, hillary achieved a
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majority of the vote, the plurality of the vote and we awe an increase on that yesterday, 7.5% more people voted for democrats than voted for republicans nationally, then they increase a little bit more with votes coming in late in california. at the end of the day the republicans have put themselves in a box canyon. how many more times can they run inside straight and win based on the back of old white guys? this is not -- this is not the 1950s. eisenhower is not running around. we've got to diversify and reach out to women, young people, people of color, people in the gay community. >> cornell bellcher is still with us. cornell, weigh in, we talked a lot about what suburban women are going to do and white women helped elect president trump and they helped elect desantis and cruz last night. >> geography matters. hillary clinton did not win white college voters.
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came close than democrats have in a long time. last night in the exit polls democrats won white college voters. that's a monumental shift, it's our diversity, but also groups of white voters uncomfortable with trump, trump is shrinking the republican party. democrats won 44% of the white vote last night. nationally. barack obama only won 38%. so from a national standpoint trump really is shrinking the party. and that shrink is coming primarily from better educated women which is why i think you see a lot of the suburbs flipping, particularly when you look at the suburbs of philadelphia, what was happening with suburban women was remarkable. >> cornell is that true or is it there's a whole lot more people voting? when we looked at the last election you didn't see young people enthused. i turn to you, steve, when we look at this election, you were on college campuses or you saw millennials lined up around the block to vote so there's a
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different college educated voter voting this time versus last time. >> there's no question about that. look, midterms are about referendum on the president but also about energy. when i chair the democratic congressional campaign committee we had a cold call voters and beg them to show up at the polls. there was no cold calling. this was just white hot energy -- >> people were in three-hour lines in california when there was ten minutes before the polls were closing. >> who propelled that energy? it was women. john said this is not the 1950s anymore. we have a president who believes it's the 1450s, women got that. the day after the inauguration they were on the streets, they carried that energy. and here's the other thing that i think is fascinating about this midterm. it's not just women, it's women combat veterans, it's women who served their country in the intelligence community. it's mikey sharelle in new jersey, spanberger in virginia. we're not as muscular and
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assertive as we've got to be. women show that democrats can be tough on national security, but also reflect the values that most democrats have on so many other issues. >> when you see so many veterans win, does it give you more hope there will be bipartisanship? veterans know how to work with anyone. when you were in the fox hole with someone, they're on your team and your common goal is to protect. >> between women who know how to work well with others and get things done, and people who come from the justice field, from education, and from law enforcement and from the military, they obviously have a collaborative background and work together. i'm hopeful on that. but then i read tweets from the president this morning i'm not encouraged. given his nature i think this will be a difficult two years. >> markets have been open for about 30 seconds. they're up 180. that's somewhat expected. you know, yesterday at 199. yesterday we actually didn't see much trading volume. and, you know, a split decision is sort of steady as she goes. that's to be expected.
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maya, to the point that this is a referendum on the president, so many of these women who ran didn't talk about the president. i think of the new governor of michigan and she ran on health care, she ran on water infrastructure. they didn't get into the divisive game. >> health care was the big story of the night as well. it was a huge win for barack obama. >> that's what flipped congress eight years ago. >> health care, jobs. and the middle class tax issue. you know, the gop tax bill is extremely unpopular in these swing districts. that played a huge role. you saw that with antonio delgado who had a big win in upstate new york. this is a first time black candidate whose opponent -- >> a rhodes scholar who went to harvard who the "new york post" called the rapper. >> not just the "new york post," not just the "new york post," but republican national campaign committee came in and ran racist ads hoping voters would go for that. what did they do instead in new york 19?
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they looked at delgado, who was promising not race baiting, but jobs and health care, and they chose him instead. and by the way, women played a huge role in that as well. so it's not just electing women candidates, it's electing candidates who are advocates for women and for a more inclusive view of the country. and i think the other win last night that we haven't talked about in this vain is the expansion of voter rights that has happened not just in florida, but in in which that's about to happen with automatic voter registration and in new york elected a democratic -- the first order of business they have on their docket is voting reform. kansas, kris kobach going down, this is going to reshape the electorate in ways still to come. i think that democrats need to start thinking like republicans 20 years ago, and look at those state house wins as well. and, you know, they have something to build on at this point. >> we're going to talk about these governor's races on the other side of the break.
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what warms my heart, the gift president trump gave us, think about all the people in this country who are engaged, people have never cared this much about politics or policy, at least in my lifetime, and that is extraordinary. we're going to leave it there. we'll be back in just two minutes. stick around, i want to talk about governor's races. michigan went yes for weed and the power of women. today, 97% of employers agree
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welcome back on this important msnbc morning. i am stephanie ruhle. much of the story of the midterms also happened on a state level last night. democrats picked up some very big wins in governor's races, in all, democrats manage to flip seven gubernatorial seats, illinois, michigan, maine, nevada, new mexico, wisconsin, kansas, all new blue. connecticut as well we mentioned in this hour, that kansas race delivered a huge blow, huge blow to president trump whose very close ally kris kobach lost to democratic state laura kelly. kris lost to a girl.
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despite the third party candidate who took more than 6% of the vote. illinois's race was the battle of the businessmen, and democrat jb pritsker prevailed. and wisconsin, this one i must cover, where incumbent republican and very close trump ally scott walker's flame appears to have burned out. he was bested last night by tony evers. a margin so close in that race that nbc couldn't make the call until 3:30 in the morning. what exactly pushed tony over the line? >> stephanie, wisconsin is known for these extremely close races, especially when governor scott walker is involved. last night was no exception. nbc news has tony evers as the apparent winner in this race and to be clear governor walker has not conceded this race just yet. his lieutenant governor came out and spoke to the crowd last night saying the fight is not over and suggesting this will be
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a long, drawn out recount battle. let's gain that out a little bit. a recount can only be called here in wisconsin if the margin is within one percentage point. it can only be requested after the county boards have officially submitted their results. tony evers' campaign is celebrating the victory, democrats believe they have the victory and the margin to push them over the finish line. here's what people at the tony evers event had to say last night. >> i feel like for too long, for two years, i guess, it's just been the republican congress has been doing nothing and like putting a rubber stamp on anything that the president is saying. and even then they haven't managed to get anything done. >> it's really amazing to see america turn towards, you know, the democratic side again. like seeing trump being elected and the hate speech that he had and his rhetoric against immigrants, it made me feel like america is a country that wasn't
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for me. >> any surprise that this is so close? >> no, i'm not surprised. >> why, wisconsin? >> it's wisconsin. >> reporter: and you see this race, walker has had ads up since may. he's warned in the winter, back in early this year that a blue wave is at risk of washing through wisconsin. so he has taken this race seriously. you look at the results. it just looks like evers overperformed. he overperformed in dane county, in madison, in milwaukee, and walker underperformed in the wow counties, the counties that surround milwaukee. he didn't pull the 70% margins in 2014 when he coasted relatively to reelection. >> no coasting last nightful we have another race to call just moments ago, the governor's race in alaska, going republican, mike dunleavy wins the race. a former congressman from florida, david jolly, go to you
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first, charlie sikes, last night in your home state of wisconsin, scott walker, i mean, this is president trump's home boy. just a few months ago the two of them talking foxconn, the thousands of jobs that are coming there, there's not thousands of jobs coming. and the jobs that are coming will most likely be filled by chinese workers. was that what had the voters angry over all the huge tax cuts and giveaways? >> there are a lot of factors, including the walker fatigue factor, fourth time he was running for reelection. and there are jobs coming here. but the analysis about what happened last night is exactly right, you know, the turnout, the blue wave in madison, dane county and milwaukee county just swamped the republican vote. but also there is this trump effect. think about it, scott walker has survived recounts, recalls, huge protests. but i think that in wisconsin, as you saw throughout the upper
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midwest, and i think that's an undercovered story at this point, the trump -- trump just basically was too uphill. there was a senate race in which the republican candidate was really tieing herself to donald trump, and she lost by more than ten points. but i want to just point out, we've been focused on places like texas and florida. but look at the upper midwest, pennsylvania, ohio, michigan and wisconsin. in the governors and senate races the democrats won seven out of eight of those races, in states that donald trump must win in the electoral college. >> is that because president trump lost some of his supporters in those states or is it because in those states new voters showed up to the game? >> i think probably a little bit of both of those. but i do think that the democrats did turn out in very, very big numbers. but the notion somehow that donald trump has rewritten the electoral map i think may need
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to be reevaluated because he is not president of the united states if he does not win pennsylvania, michigan, ohio and wisconsin. and democrats had very good nights in all of those states. >> david jolly, what was your big takeaway from last night? you're a guy from florida. i was surprised to see desantis do well there. >> he pulled it out by a small margin. congratulations to my republican friends who are victorious in races, particularly in florida, but democrats had a very good night last night. we should congratulate them as well. i'm fascinated by my friends on the left who this morning are acting like they lost. you won. you have reason to celebrate and congratulations. recall the last 18 months, the target, the goal was to retake the house of representatives. democrats won in the low 30s and you took over the house. what happened in the last six or eight weeks is on the left we got emotionally involved, in the marquee races like gillum and beto and abrams. and so when those races went the
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other way towards republicans, democrats are acting like they lost. you won last night. you may not have gotten the knockout blow you were expecting, but you actually won, and to charlie's point you won key governorships. >> not get ago knockout blow is that the true win for america? when you have a split like this, john, maybe that's an opportunity for people to work together. when you spike the ball in someone's face and twist them in the mud you cannot work together. >> that's the problem with our politics. >> the positive is that we didn't get that last night, that both parties can walk away -- the president likes the say he had a major win, and everybody he supported won, he forgot scott walker. >> politics is over now today, right, let's work together. are they going to be willing to pass infrastructure bill, work on health care together, maybe nibble around immigration. are they willing to do that? that's up the president, mitch mcconnell and nancy pelosi. i have a hard time saying it in
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this world we're living in, but there is an opportunity that would help both parties. the republicans are trapped dem kr kr graphically. the democrats have an opportunity to grow to the middle and seize it. >> dozen seats, maybe a few more, maybe a few less. if this becomes the party of investigation going into 2020, you know, the house -- control of the house is going to be on the ballot in 2020 here as well. so i think it's incumbent upon both parties to have a positive message and accomplishment over the next two years, to your point about this isn't a knockout blow this is a reset. and will the reset actually lead to some productive results for the american people? >> okay, well then if last night's election in many levels was a referendum on trump, and people want trump out, david, what's the right move for democrats? last night, before the house was even called, and you hear we want to see trump's taxes, i was thinking, really, people voted for health care, so what's the right direction here? >> for two years the american people have been begging for
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accountability, i think that's what democrats were speaking to. the two things i'm looking for is, does donald trump send house democrats a legislative proposal that they can't refuse, a middle class tax cut? who do they do? recall when mitch mcconnell said obama should be a one term president. he was criticized for that politically. >> how are they going to pay for that? let's not paint this democrats will be obstructionists, that trump will come up with a big beautiful tax cut, how will he do that. >> democrats will say we can't work with you because you're being irresponsible. roll back the other cuts and identify revenue, let's talk. but the senate says this, they are going to slow roll investigations and i believe in the spring of 2020 launch an impeachment investigation and make the president run for reelection while he's under impeachment investigation. i've been around the hill for 25 years i don't see any plausible way democrats don't flirt with impeachment going into 2020. >> some of them are going to
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have to, the itch is there on the left. what can presumably speaker pelosi do about that? i will back up another point, on infrastructure, you cannot do an infrastructure bill in this country without putting revenue on the table. the notion that somehow we can streamline permits and there's some fix fictional amount of -- no, you need revenue on the table. if republicans can lean into this with democrats, that's jobs and public safety. >> we said this two years ago, the one thing president trump knows all about he is a builder. this is exactly what he knows how to do. instead he led with health care and it blew up in his face. hold on one second. steve kornacki, i know you wanted to take a nap. can you walk us through the alaska vote called? >> the alaska governor's race has been called for mike dunleavy, high hopes for, bill walker, the incumbent governor and independent, he dropped out,
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might open a path for -- but mike, republican state senator, winning this race, good night for republicans in alaska. don young, the dean of the house, he was thought to be in late trouble, held onto his house seat, so young wins that, dunlae dunleavy wins the race for republicans. new development in the florida senate race. catie beck. now there's new indicators, what do you know? >> yeah, stephanie chief of staff for senator bill nelson says we will not be hearing a concession speech today from nelson. that is because this election is going to a recount. per florida state law if the candidates are within less than a half of a percent of each other it triggers an automatic recount, goes back to the counties and they canvas the
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votes all over again, that's what's going to happen here in the senate race. we knew the races were going to be extremely close. obviously gillum's race was close, not close enough for an automatic recount. i think democrats today, as they are in a lot of places are feeling a bit defeated, a bit let down by the results of what happened in florida. we saw polls leading up to yesterday suggesting that democrats had opened a narrow lead, both gillum and nelson in their races seemed like they were pulling ahead and then, you know, last night everything changed. but it really did come down to just a percentage point on the gubernatorial side and less than half a percentage point on the senate side. so we will now go into what florida is very familiar with, a recount. and this could take some time, stephanie. >> steve, take us deeper on this florida race. >> yeah, i mean, look you can see rick scott, the margin, 35,000 votes. see what happens in the recount, the famous florida recount there back in 2000 in the presidential election, the final margin there
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was 537 votes. so obviously a wider margin potentially going into it. i think the story we had in florida was, this felt, watching these returns come in last night, standing here, i had flashbacks to 2016. i wasflashbacks to 2016. you saw the early returns in the polling heading into the election in 2016 favoring hillary clinton. you saw it last night the polling heading into it in the early returns. favoring bill nelson and then what happened. you started getting the same day vote. the people who actually waited to election day to turn out then. you saw the race turn and really where you saw it turn was the gulf coast and up here. rick scott started to get much stronger performance when the same day vote came in in the key counties. this is a place that donald trump, there was surge trump support in 2016. we can show you trump got 55% here. rick scott ended up match iing . that's one of the counties you lock back and say it's the reason trump won florida, one of
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the reasons he won the presidency. in florida, this is not the national story that emerged, but there are some places on the map. florida is one of them, ohio looks like another, there are some ores as well where those lines of division from 2016 really did reassert themselves last night. florida is a classic example. the path that scott took last night and the path in the governors race a lot like 2016 in florida. >> before we go to commercial, you are my in-house floridian. what's your take? i have to say in florida, i'm surprised they did nothing on guns. >> the state legislature did a little bit, but not enough. this is no surprise what we're seeing this end to a recount. the story is bill nelson has been a fixture for 40 years in florida. if the results hold, that's a story in itself. but stephanie, watch the andrew gillum race. those votes are actually tightening as well. and within the gillum community, they are saying these votes
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might tighten up to also look at a recount in had that race. understand we rounts rarely change the results. but this is florida. this is performing exactly how florida performs historically. just keep an eye on each of these races. i don't think we have heard the lst of it. we have to take a quick break. we're going live to texas to analyze what o'rourke's close race could csignal for democrat down the line. what's he going to do tomorrow? richmond, virginia is bringing urban farming to city limits. bow tide farms is one organization that didn't look to the countryside, but to the city of rich monday. it's now surprising produce to farmers markets and local restaurants. for more, watch your business sunday morning at 7:30 eastern on msnbc.
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to make sense of the midterm, we have to look at texas. beto o'rourke could not top republican it'd cruz in the senate race. the enthusiasm his campaign created may have been a game changer for democrats across the state, which is opportunitically red just not for him. i want to bring in garrett haake, who has been with beto o'rourke for the last couple weeks. walk me through what happened last night and what it's going to be like for him going forward. ted cruz, even republicans don't like him. >>. >> reporter: we saw the changing face of texas as democrats ran up big numbers in the cities and suburbs. republicans in this case ted cruz were able to hold off by keeping margins high in the rural parts of the state. the panhandle, west texas, all
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the counties outside the major cities. but when you dig into the numbers, beto o'rourke had some coat tails. a lot of democrats i talked to think of him as a rising star. lizzie fletcher winning in the houston suburbs. if you want to get into the weeds, beto o'rourke blew out the numbers in harris county. he did better than hillary clinton in houston, texas. a bunch of down ballot candidates won there. all those congressional races around houston ended up being super tight. democrats feel like all of a sudden houston, texas, could be a big congressional battlefield in 2020. you're seeing texas start to perform like the urban state that it actually is in a lot of different ways. again, with a margin of just about 3 points for beto o'rourke outperforming expectations, but still getting hit by the rural white vote in the rest of the state. not quite enough to carry it but
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enough to give them optimism come 2020. >> thank you so much. i want to get final thoughts from my panel. what's your big takeaway? >> that democrats, but also those who have a vision of the country again that is is more inclusive and forward thinking, should feel really good today and they should start translating that into working for every office, for local office, from dogcatcher to school board to congress. and i think a big mistake in 2008 was democrats said, barack obama has won. i don't have to do anything else. they walked away. and i think that has allowed republicans to get gains in the senate to remake state legislatures and democrats need to work harder and create a big tent. because republicans are not doing that. >> the map for donald trump got
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harder with gubernatorial races in a much stronger democratic party in pennsylvania. and texas took a big step forward to being purple. >> historically the story is that democrats took the house. contemporarily, the story is the gop won the marquee headline matchups. culturally the story is we're still on this path towards two americas. that's a lethal cultural moment for us to realize. we remain divided. >> but one america yesterday showed up and vote d. that's good news. that wraps up this hour. i'll see you at 1:00 p.m. now you're in luck because the one and only hallie jackson is in the house. >> i am hallie jackson here in new york. divided we stand. after one of the most consequential mud terms in a generation. for the first time in president trump's administration, a check on his power. democrats take the house, republicans hold the senate. and here's where we stand. with some races, by the way,
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still not called. in the house, which will be under democratic control for the first time in eight years, they have picked up a net gain of 28 seats. remember that magic number was 23. their victories driven by women voters and a rejection of president trump in the cities and suburbs. and that was not the case over the other chamber, the senate. yes, we saw some upset, but republicans have not only remained in control, they picked up two seats so far there. these are the states the white house is is talking up this morning. they flipped seats easily in trump country in indiana, missouri, north dakota. in missouri you had josh holly defeating claire mccaskill. heidi heitkamp lost her seat. and in indiana, republican mike ron beat joe donly. they did pick up a seat in nevada. that's where democratic congresswoman jackie rosen


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