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thanks for watching. "am joy" starts right now. we're hopeful that every single vote will be counted in this race, and that way that all of us can walk away feeling extremely confident about what each and every one of us did to go out here and to have our say in this election. all i've got to say is let's count every vote, let's bring it home. good morning. welcome to "am joy." the fight for florida is not over. not just yet. because a mere two hours from no all 67 counties in the sunshine state must turn over their ballot results from tuesday's midterm election. if the races are as close as they look, that could trigger official recounts in two key races, the governor's race and the senate race. already vote counting has flipped the race for agricultural commissioner to the democrat. the race for governor continued to narrow even after democrat andrew gillum conceded the race tuesday night.
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now just 35,967 votes, 0.4% separate gillum and donald trump's personal pick for governor, ron desantis. that's below the 0.5% threshold needed to trigger a recount. the u.s. senate race is even closer. rick scott is ahead of incumbent democrat bill nelson by fewer than 15,000 votes. a scant 0.2% difference. well within the margin for a manual hand recount. republicans are calling the legally mandated recounts a form of election stealing. >> it's clear we got some left-wing activists, we have some democrat d.c. lawyers down here for one purpose, to steal this election. >> florida. at this moment the ballots that will make or break these races are winging their way to the great city of tallahassee.
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joining me now is steve shale, ally vitale, and here in new york is ellie mistaval. so let's get an update on what's really the count, not yet the recount. >> yeah. we have not quite hit the recount yet. that should officially come this afternoon. you mentioned the noon deadline for those initial round of counting of the votes to basically effectively trigger this recount officially, right? so we mentioned that there was the 0.5 margin which triggers an automatic recount by machine, then the 0.2% margin that triggers the recount by hand. on the senate side, it looks like it will go to the next round further than that, they're closer than that 0.25% margin
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for a hand recount. that's what the nelson team wants to happen. looking at this undervote in a place called broward county. basically they're seeing a discrepancy between the number of people who voted in the governor's race and the number of people who voted in the senate race. they're trying to figure out why that happened. they think once they get to a hand recount that will be something they can suss out and figure out. some legal challenges here. rick scott filed legal challenges in broward and palm beach county to let those supervisors of election, tell them how many votes still need to be counted, provisional votes, absentee ballots. they didn't necessarily in full comply. in broward county they partially complied with that. there's still no real number of how many absentee ballots or provisional ballots are left to count. in palm beach county, the supervisor of elections said she
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would not comply with that. come noon today, we expect the recounts to be automatically triggered. >> i'm glad to finally get you on the show. you're doing a great job down there. let's get to steve, the guru of florida politics. we have the two best in the business of florida politics on this show right now. steve, there's a lot of discomfort with the way this race went among a lot of folks. my former friends and neighbors in south florida, for a lot of reasons. the broward delay, now brenda snipes is being attacked by the president of the united states, the current governor there's also a question of whether or not all the ballots will make it to tallahassee today. the miami herald is looking at ballots that will mailed through this opa-locka facility, where the notorious bomber, sayoc was
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sending through mail bombs to various democrats around the country. that's where people may have heard of opa-locka. can you tell us, is there any updated information? are there some 40 boxes of ballots that have not been distributed the way they should, filled out ballots sitting in this fail facility? >> sure two things real quick. first, part of the delay in broward is the sheer number of vote by mail ballots that came in late. there are like 26,000 ballots that came in monday and tuesday. as for the opa-locka information, this is great breaking. there's some issues here. the ballots have to be in hand by 7:00 on election night to be counted. news reports are showing or they say they were delivered prior to that point and in a mail
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facility for a while. it's something the court also probably have to figure out for us. >> you have that aspect, the sheer number of votes that came in in broward county was big. i want to show one data point in broward county that is strange. the whole state had an undervote for governor. the top of the ticket was really bill nelson, the u.s. senator. federal races get announced first. if you have a house race, that's usually next. then you would see andrew gillum. there was an undervote across the state where people voted in the senate race and not the governor's race. a lot of that you have to put down with race-based voting, some people voting for scott who was white and not voting for gillum. in the red, that's the place where the undervote was in reverse. more people voted in the governor's race than the senate race. is there any explanation that
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you can think of, steve, for that? only in broward county that happenin happening. >> well, if you look at the ballot, on the left-hand side, the instructions went down to the ballot and then the race was there. the governor's race was to the top of the ballot, and some people think they missed the race. the one interesting thing about it is congressional races were directly below the senate races. it didn't have the same undervote. so there's a question of whether or not people just missed the race or if there's an issue with scanners. this is why we have a recount. every one of these ballots will be inspected by hand. we'll try to find out if they does try to vote or if it was a true undervote. >> when it comes to polling and dat data, we turn to fernand. can you explain -- just looking at it as a data guy, i was
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texting you and shale on election night. can you explain why there was that weird undervote in broward county? is there anything in the numbers that tells you why or what happened? >> before we get to that, on behalf of the other 49 states and the rest of the nation, to quote britney spears, oops, we did it again. >> yeah. >> it's amazing to me to think 50 years ago this country could put a man on the moon, but in 2018 the nation's most important political state can't quite seem to get the votes counted in time and figure it out. as to that undervote, it is bizarre that that happens. am i the only one who finds it suspicious and curious that these events, when they do happen in florida, whether it's in 2000 or now in 2018, the problems always seem to be exacerbated in the two counties with the biggest democratic counties in the state, miami-dade and broward county.
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and the other thing i find somewhat suspicious and curious, i may be the only one, whenever we do get to the legally mandated recount situations, like we do now, there's always a collective republican freak out. when all that we are trying to do in the state of florida is, as steve said, count the votes. whether these undercount problems that you speak to in broward are real or ballot scanned or machine issue problems, the legally mandated protocols and procedures should be able to address that. now you have this specter of ballots that were timely mailed by the voters to a facility in opa-locka that was contained as a result of the bomber, you have to take these things in place. i ask the question why are the republicans nationally and in florida losing their collective minds when all that is trying to be done and all that is asked to be done is to count every single vote. >> yeah. by the way, the same kind of
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intimidation tactics that we saw in 2000, they're rolling them out again, which also makes people suspicious. if you are -- if you're not worried that counting all the votes will just in a democratic way, small "d," elect the other side, if there's something else going on, that's why you would flip out. andrew gillum is not freaking out, he's behind. this is the tenor of the republican protests. this is what they're mounting in broward county. the largest county in florida here's how they're treating brenda snipes, the election supervisor there, who is an older black woman in the deep south. keep that in mind as you watch this. >> lock her up! lock her up! lock her up! >> if you look at the person in this case a woman involved, she has had a horrible history. all of a sudden heir fithey're
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votes out of nowhere. >> we're all seen the incompetence and voting irregularities in broward before. here we go again. >> rick scott ran a company that committed record, epic medicare fraud. he will not stand idly by while the reckless liberals steal the election in florida he pretended he had no dwidea when he was ce of the company that there was medicare fraud under his watch. that's who the governor of florida is. he's just, you know -- i don't know. maybe i'm taking it too far. let me let you -- that's who rick scott is. >> that's what florida is. it's important to understand florida is not happening by accident. republicans have controlled this state for a long time.
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they want the election system to be a joke. because, as your other panelists made the point well, if you just count all the votes, that doesn't help republicans. it's embarrassing for our country that we have one entire political party dedicated to not counting all the votes because they know when you do they are more likely to lose. let's get to the legal issues. to understand the legal challenges now, all you have to understand is that republicans fundamentally don't want to count the votes, democrats fundamentally want to count the votes. rick scott's legal challenge is cynical. back in the day, in the before times, we had these things called vending machines. you couldn't get the vending machine by swiping your phone. you actually had to put in a dollar. if the dollar was crinkled, the
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ve vending machine might spit out you're dollar. rick scott's position is if the voting machine does not take your ballot on the first try because it's crinkled or folded, it's okay for elections official to light your ballot on fire and disinfranchise you. that's the actual position that rick scott is going with. bill nelson says no you should get your dollar back, we should just try again to see if the machine will take the thing or do it by hand. the other lawsuit is actually filed by bill nelson. his issue is the signature thing. if you mail in your ballot, you have to sign it, the election officials have to match your signature with the signature they have with you on file. this sounds like a reasonable idea, until you remember that the people who are comparing these signatures, they're not handwriting experts. right? they don't have advanced degrees in symbology. this is the u.p.s. guy coming to
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your house saying can you sign for this? no, bro, i have to take your package away. that's not the way to run an election. bill nelson is suing to say basically that process is unconstitutionally disenfranchising people who tried to vote. all the democratic lawsuits are trying to do, whether on the defense or the plaintiffs is trying to get a situation where people who tried to vote can have their votes counted. >> i want to go back to fernand for a moment. i have to put this one point in. a lot of folks have been making this fact, the top of the ticket was nelson, and he was behind gillum. bill nelson, i want to ask you this question as somebody who was observing that the way the election was taking place. bill nelson said in the miami herald i don't think i have to get african-american voters
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motivated, since so much of the prison system is african-american. i think they see disenfranchisement in the state of florida, that will be a motivator. he's basically saying amendment 4 alone on its own will do the motivating. i wonder when democrats look back on this election, i wonder if they think bill nelson had done what joe biden did for barack obama and sort of reverse this attempt by the desantis camp to paint andrew gillum as a criminal, scary black guy, it's just a question people have been asking me. do you think as a strategic matter that might have helped? >> no question about it. bill nelson, the signs were there that he was in trouble. he was going to be in a situation that he finds himself in now. he's in a recount. he may skeek it oree squeak it
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loses this race, the signs were there. on this program we talked about the fact that there was credible polling that suggested that scott and desantis were making inroads with hispanic voters that they shouldn't have been making. you speak to the point correctly about what bill nelson could have and probably should have done when it came to the african-american vote. one last point, listening to rick scott's clip that you played earlier talking about unethical liberals trying to steal this election, it's reminiscent of the language that brett kavanaugh who now sits on the supreme court was making and charging playing the partisan card? keep in mind rick scott is still the governor of florida. just yesterday he sent florida department of -- fdle agents to oversee the process in broward county. shades of brian kemp in georgia. unbelievable what this party is doing when it comes to
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elections. >> he opened his race talking about monkeying can up, and now would have to govern the most diverse state in the country. how would that work? we'll have more on that on a later toe. next up, the election isn't over in georgia either, because it's not over anywhere. we'll bring you the latest next. i just got my cashback match, is this for real? yep. we match all the cash back new cardmembers earn at the end of their first year, automatically. whoo! i got my money! hard to contain yourself, isn't it? uh huh! let it go! whoo! get a dollar-for-dollar match at the end of your first year. only from discover.
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votes remain to be counted. there are voices that are waiting to be heard. across our state folks are opening up the dreams of voters and absentee ballots and we believe our chance for a stronger georgia is just within reach. >> with just over 60,000 votes separating stacey abrams and brian kemp abrams insists the race is way too close to concede. kemp has taken a victory lap and resigned as georgia secretary of state claiming the total 20,000 provisional ballots yet to be counted in the governor's race is not enough to trigger a runoff. abrams who has spent much of her career combating brian kemp's voter suppression efforts says there are thousands of other ballots left. she is vowing to stay in the race until every single vote is counted. joining me now is mayor teresa tomlinson and there is a
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two-second delay here. teresa what do you make of this argument by brian kemp that there are not enough votes still out there for abrams to be still in the hunt? >> well, she needs just over 20,000 votes to have a recount, which would be helpful actually so we could know what exactly the vote count was on tuesday. she needs about 25,000 votes to force a runoff. and kemp has been saying all along there's only about 22,000 votes out there. a lot of folks doubted that he actually knew. it turns out just from freedom of information act requests, open records requests in georgia that the abrams campaign found a little over 30,000 ballots out there. so we suspect there are in excess of 30,000 ballots out there to be counted. the most important thing is we just had record turnout on
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tuesday, 4 million people voted for governor in the state of georgia. that's the largest midterm election turnout we've ever had. one reason people turned out is because we swore to them their voices mattered, that we would count their votes. so we have that obligation. this is far from over. it will not be certified thanks to the federal courts until tuesday at the earliest. >> just to stay with you for a moment, what happened? stacey abrams was well ahead in the polls consistently throughout. how did we get here? i suspect i know the answer, and that it is unnerving and tragic, but what do you think happened to reverse a consistent polling lead for stacey abrams? >> well, the polls were actually fairly tied. stacey had pulled ahead a bit. there were positive indicators in that early voting that it looked like she would pull ahead on election day. the african-american vote was off the charts.
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we were seeing urban vote turnout and where she needed it outside the atlanta area we were seeing large turnout, then the disappointment of election day, those initial returns so several things happened. one, the abrams campaign had a huge absentee ballot effort. so a lot of herbal lo ballots a those absentee ballots that were set aside because of exact match signature, the court determined those ballots should be counted. the courts took care of some of that. there has been broad scale questions of voter suppression, a ton of concern out there, not enough voting machines, just a lot of concern. this is something that's plagued the brian kemp tenure as secretary of state. so you can imagine why people were particularly offended on wednesday when he went into the governor's office, declared himself the victor and then
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chose to resign for political optics, i might add. the woman who was appointed by the governor to be the acting secretary of state, she's a yale law graduate, african-american woman. i think they're trying to obviously skim over some of the political backlash to the arrogance in declaring yourself a victor when we have all these questions outstanding. i don't doubt her able ility to lead in some fashion, but why was she not appointed six months ago, five months ago so we could have saved ourselves this serious question? >> absolutely. i will go to you, jason. you've been covering this race early on. the big glaring spotlight on this race was about brian kemp's long history of voter
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suppression, like brazen voter suppression. he put 53 ballots on hold, from 2012 to 2016 georgia under mr. kemp purged 1.5 million voters, just in 2017. 665,000, almost 665,000 people purged. 10%. 1 in 10 registered voters. since 2012, 214 polling places have been shut down by this guy. he essentially bioengineered an electorate with white voters and few voters of color to elect him. >> that's what he did before election day. then we know the things he did in the last two weeks before the election. the court said all these people you removed through exact match, they are allowed to vote. you have to inform local constituencies that they can vote. he didn't do that. snellville, where you had a three-hour delay because they
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didn't have power cords for voting machines. power cords in georgia. you know, where home depot was founded. these are the kinds of things that brian kemp allowed to happen. i heard from people who say this has to do with the local agencies, local voting places. no, it was his job to make sure -- he had one job, that was to make sure this election worked functionally. there's no reason why he should have been able to do what he was able do and bounce out. as we go into these recounts, and i do think they'll go to a runoff, the state democratic party sent out a funny tweet, the way brian kemp is acting is like saying i'm the lottery commissioner, i won the lottery but i'm not showing you my winning ticket. he's been delivering information only to himself in this. i'm proud of the fact that the abrams campaign, she is not just fighting for herself and people who voted for her, but her campaign allowed congressional districts to get flipped, to get other seats won in the state.
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this is a template for how to win in the red south. >> i think because kemp has been so brazen, i wonder as an activist, what then is the response if brian kemp having done all of that then becomes the governor of an georgia, a s where coca-cola is headquartered, a state where the super bowl is headed its way. how do others look at georgia which supposedly emerged as a modern south. if a guy like kemp do all of this and still be governor, what does the activist community do? you could say the same thing about desantis and florida. what will the activist community do in response if that man becomes governor of george? >> we keep fighting. it doesn't end here. i have to just highlight what
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jason says. it's so true. stacey abrams has been remarkable. she's been doing this for five years. fighting brian kemp, the man who basically pickpocketed jim crow and turned this election into a voter suppression election. he's been blocking african-americans from voting for some time now. he and his allies have put roadblocks, been trying to deny african-americans from their right to vote. she has been fighting about five years with the new georgia project. she has laid for us a vision of how do you fight this? what do you do? not only that, georgia, i believe now, it is going to be a swing state in 2020 because of stacey abrams. this has really been quite amazing, unprecedented what we're seeing. but we have to continue to fight. it doesn't stop. we have to help stacey abrams. i do believe she's going to get
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in to a runoff. we're so close, 20,000 votes, 0.4% before we need to get there. all of us have to be all hands on deck and help her get to that win in the runoff. >> i guess the small piece of good news is that brian kemp won't be running the runoff, we just don't know what he left behind in that office to try to ensure himself the governorship. it's pretty brazen and astounding. thank you all very much. coming up next, jefferson sessions is now free to return to alabama and begin job hunting. donald trump finally has his roy combs. more next. combs. more next. a once-in-five hundred year storm should happen every five hundred years, right? fact is, there have been twenty-six in the last decade.
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donald trump maintained he was not involved in payments of hush money to women he allegedly had extramarital affairs with like stormy daniels and karen mcdougal. the "wall street journal" citing interviews with three dozen people reports that trump directly intervened to suppress stories about his alleged affairs, transactions that likely violated campaign finance
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laws. when asked about it, trump said nobody cares about it. up next, the person who just became the nation's most powerful prosecutor. ion's most powerful prosecutor.
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it's a unique design that will help lots of people that have mobility issues get in and use their hot tub. >> that was matthew whitaker, now the acting attorney general for the united states, it served on the board of advisers for a
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company that went out of business last year after the federal trade commission accused it of scamming customers out of tens of millions of dollars. now world patent marketing is the subject of a criminal investigation by the fbi, which, of course, falls under the authority of the u.s. attorney general. the "journal" cites a victim of the scam who was contacted by the fbi and other people familiar with the matter. elliott is back with me and also joining us is elliott williams and paul butler who is in the penalty box. paul, you can go first. how can it be the new acting attorney general of the united states is also being investigated by the fbi? >> is that a question for me? >> yep. >> sorry -- i'm sorry, you're in the box. you can't see me. we are just playing it by ear. >> so, joy, yeah, this guy matthew whitaker, he's a walking conflict of interest. i'm confident that not only will
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the professional ethics officers at the department of justice say that he cannot supervise the fbi investigation that is related to his own conduct, he also cannot supervise the russia investigation because he has expressed very strong opinions on that. he also wanted to take a moment to say bye felicia general sessions -- >> you are getting a fist pump. >> dude, in two years sessions took us back 20 years on issues like civil rights, criminal justice reform and separation of church and state. the only thing that he did that showed integrity was to recuse himself from the russian investigation. and that act of integrity got him fired. >> absolutely. i'll gom back to you in a minute. i will go go to the other
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prosecutor here. whitaker's twitter from 2017, he made it private, but it was still seen, last year he argued against legislation that would protect robert mueller from white house pressure saying this is a mistake. already protected enough. then he also said in an op-ed in july of 2016 that he would indict hillary clinton, lock her up over her e-mails and yesterday he privately provided advice to the president last year on how the white house might be able to pressure the justice department to investigate the president's political adversaries, you know, dictator style. >> january 4, 2019, the day after the new congress comes in, this is the first set of subpoenas, the cyst set -- first of interviews. they'll have to ask him, how many times did you skip over your boss and try to sit down
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with the president of the united states. number two, how many times did you by yourself meet with the president? what he's done is gone around the chain of command at the justice be a crony or a stooge for the president of the united states. now there's all these investigations. now the question is does he shut down the investigation into himself, does donald trump shut down the investigation into him. everybody is shutting down va s investigations into each other. >> it's amazing the potential scam company is the smaller news. the bigger news, he has multiple conflicts of interest. i know you've been waiting for this moment with jefferson sessions. go, elliott. >> look, any time you can get a confederate out of government is a good day. >> pun intended? >> that's not a pun. it's just accurate. the reason why i'm excited about jeff sessions leaving is because donald trump's m.o. is not to
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hire competent people. it's to hire incompetent sycophants. matthew whitaker falls in line with an income tant si-- incomp sycophants. this exact thing that trump is trying to do to appoint somebody to a senate confirmable position based on a confirmation that happened a long times ago. >> kellyanne conway's husband is saying the same thing. >> if this was okay, then barack obama would have appointed merrick garland to the supreme court because he was senate confirmed to be a u.s. attorney just like matthew whitaker. the appointment itself is illegal. he is also incompetent, not just because of the scandals.
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if you look at his legal reasoning, this guy doesn't believe in marbury v madison. hiring an attorney general who doesn't believe in that is like hiring an astronaut who doesn't believe in the theory of gravity. it might not affect his job, but eventually his spaceship will fall of the sky and not know why. >> it's like a doctor who doesn't believe in tylenol. or pencilen. your strep will resolve itself. it's so basic to lawyers. i've been an attorney for almost 20 years. i have never seen a graduate of law school and a serious attorney say that the fundamental case that sets up our goo dijudicial system in am is invalid. it's staggering poor judgment to be put in that position. >> paul butler? >> if that's not all, he also does not believe in the separation of church and state. he's on record as saying judges should follow new testament
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justice rather than the law. >> yep. >> for this person to now be the country's chief law enforcement officer, the most powerful prosecutor in the country, we're going backwards. >> come again, he thinks that the judges should follow the new testament and not the law? you are serious? >> when he was running for senate in the iowa republican primary they were all saying that a judge -- talking about the supreme court, that the judge should follow natural law, which is code for saying biblical law. whitaker went further and he said that specifically judges need to follow new testament law and they pressed him on it. they were like what about the old testament. he's like, no, no, just new testament law. >> okay. i'm wrapping my head around that now. elliott we also have the fact that even if he weren't the guy, the alternatives are not better.
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the people are chris christie, who was on the transition team. pam bonde who took checks from donald trump, donald trump, and ivanka trump around the time she was considering and then decided i'm not going to investigate trump university. you have chris kobach who lost kansas, he was too extreme for kansas. these are the options. >> it's hard to find a serious attorney who respects the rule of law and who would take the job what they're doing now is picking from this self-selected list of individuals, all of whom are going to be cronies for the president. the standard is how loyal can you be. let's go back to jeff sessions. no one is more associated with the nativism and some of the darkest aspects of the trump presidency than jeff sessions. he got thrown under the bus because of the fact he chose to recuse and do the legally correct and ethically appropriate thing. the question will be will trump
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ask him will he recuse, what will your actions be with respect to the investigation. so he's trying -- he's screening for a crony. >> last but not least, he was also recommended by steve king of all people. i'm told he's also wearing a rose bowl participation ring. >> he was a tight end for iowa. >> got it. got it. okay. >> the "new york times" it said because he looks like central casting as if how much you can squat matters. >> paul butler, who is going to tase me, bro? who will do anything about it. what could congress do? the senate is still in the hands of the president's golfing friends. >> i don't think that the senate or congress is likely to act on this acting attorney general. trump is saying now he didn't know him at all, which is both a lie and also trump's usual move
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before he gets rid of someone. i think with all this fraud stuff coming out, i don't think that whitaker will be around long. but a whole parade of horribles about who might be next. >> donald trump didn't know him. rick scott was like, i had no idea, medicare fraud? what? >> the supreme court has said when the president appoints an invalid appointee all the things he does are invalid. if this guy, if whitaker tries to fire mueller, mueller has standing to sue and say that -- >> a senator could sue under the appointments clause. >> the supreme court is in the hand of the guy who said i went to yale! >> we're all going to die. >> we have to go. thank you. this was a fun panel. actual reality, not fun at all. really bad. the race isn't over in
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arizona's razor tight senate race between two congresswomen is far from over. numbers release show democrat krist krist kyrsten sinema has taken a slight lead. joining me is marcus far relati -- far el. >> the arizona republican party decided to say hold my drink. let's figure out how we can figure out how this senate race does not go to the democrats. i want to say that arizona is now a purple state. we have a senate election that has literally turned into a conviction about how many democrats are actually turning out voters. so on election night, the republican party saw that they had a slim lead. they decided to sue the maricopa
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county recorders office, they decided to sue him because they wanted to make sure the vote total didn't increase. it takes ten days in arizona in maricopa county to count all the votes. if we counted all the votes in maricopa county, you would see that we would have much further along in the election process and democrats would win. the republican party tried to sue and stop the election from processing and making sure that at least the percentage of voters would work out. so what we're seeing right now is an attempt to subvert the votes here in the state. >> and we know that cindy mccain, of course the widow of john mccain, tweeted out in response to the lawsuit, arizona, gop i'm one of those mail in ballots. i was under the impression my vote always counted. there is a settlement now, that was reached. arizona republicans who had alleged the state's two biggest counties were illegally counting some ballots changed court on friday and agreed to settle
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their lawsuit if rural voters get the same chance. it sounds they are trying to make sure if votes are counted, they want the maximum number to try to get martha mccall si l e love -- mcsally over the line. >> doug ducey tweeted out he wanted to see all the votes counted. what's amazing to me is the amount of how the republicans switched in one week. once they saw that the senate race, the education race, the public instruction race, and the other down ballot races were turning towards democrats, they wanted to finally see, they wanted to see how many votes could get cast for the republican party. what they are banking on is outside of the bluest area of arizona, maricopa county. the rural areas turn up in tides for them. i have a funny feeling that's not going to happen. i believe sinema is about to run away with this thing. >> arizona has not had a woman senator. there was something called the fab five, including janet
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napolitano. let's put up the totals. christen cinema -- kyrsten sinema, martha mcsally, advising the democratic candidate. do you expect there are enough votes out there for sinema to hold on to that lead? >> absolutely. down ballot also, the amount of work that the maricopa county democratic party, the arizona democratic party put in, talking about kathy hoffman, a down ballot ticket, she actually took the lead, so it's up and down the ballot. there's a black woman by the name of sandra kennedy running for a corporation commission. she is in second place, and she looks like she's about to take a seat. so this is all women arizona, and women are literally taking control of this state, and pushing it towards it being purple. >> here we go, arizona, the other state to watch. thank you very much, mar sus ferrell -- marcus ferrell.
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washington. >> here in minnesota, we don't only welcome immigrants, we send them to washington. >> welcome back to am joy. to truly understand jus how big the blue wave was on tuesday, you have to know exactly what the democrats were up against, an economy, handed to donald trump on a silver platter by president barack obama that is at full employment, a brutal, senate map, a senate election map that heavily favored the republicans, with ten democrats up for reelection in states that trump won in 2016. heavily, heavily gerrymandered congressional districts that meant democrats needed to win the congressional popular vote by 7 points to sneak across the finish line and flip the house, and a president who was stumping for republicans by stoking racial resentment and fear of immigrants among white voters, the exact same message that got him elected in 2016. despite all of that, democrats took control of the house for
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the first time in eight years while shattering glass ceilings and ushering in the most diverse congress in u.s. history with more than 100 women elected to congress. the new house majority will take over in january, which means that a large number of committees like judiciary where the power of impeachment resides, intelligence where devin nunes and republicans did the most to protect the president, including releases sensitive intelligence. ways and means, where the power of the purse lies, soon to be headed by maxine waters which happens to have the power to subpoena donald trump's tax returns. all those committees will be chaired by democrats. joining me is republican strategist, ej dion, and move evan, i'm going to come to you first, you have these house and senate victories that include this incredibly diverse state of
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women. the first muslim woman, ilhan, an mma fighter who's native american, and lgbt, and in kansas. ayanna pressley, alexandria ocasio cortez in new york, the youngest member, abby fink finkennaur, what causes that is youth, young voters, young candidates and young voters, look at a slate and being attracted to that, and attracted to something other than what donald trump is offering. you wrote a piece saying donald trump celebrated the midterm results, without millennials or women he will be headed for sda disaster in 2020. listen, will they? >> no. they're showing signs of not listening. we have donald trump going out wednesday morning and celebrating the victories that the republicans, the red wave we
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had. it's like him going out and celebrating the titanic for having a few people survive. it was an all out disaster. republicans saw losses across every level, down to the state and local level. democrats picked up over 300 state legislative seats, six trifectas, meaning the governorship and state chamber. we lost 7 governorships, this is a disaster of epic proportions, fuelling that, young voters and millennials, who normally don't vote. in 2014, 19% of eligible young voters voted, and that really didn't help and they only voted plus 11 for democratic candidates. in 2018, that increased 56% to 31% of registered young voters voting and they voted predominantly for democratic candidates. >> right. >> they went democrat plus 35. women voters in 2014, women voters went plus 4 for democrats, in 2018, plus 19. and the hidden one that
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everybody missed, 65 plus, they went plus 16 in 2014 for republicans, plus 2 this year. why? because they have been around, and you talk to these republican voting 65 plus senior citizens, who are saying, you know, i normally vote republican but i'm embarrassed at what is going on in this country. >> yeah, they adon -- don't wano be associated with it. >> you and i have been talking about years and years of the increasing diversity of the electorate. minority voters tend to be younger. the reason it's harder to turn them out is they're young. millennials are the largest cohort in the american electorate. they are younger, obviously, but they're starting now to pick up in terms of voting, and as evan said, you now have democrats scoring gubernatorial victories in places like kansas and maine and nevada and illinois. just look at this map, and they're doing it in a lot of cases with candidates of color and women. >> well, and what's really exciting is that not only are
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there voters, but they're also running for office. we had roughly close to 700 millennials running for the first time across everything from school board to governorships. we are building a slate that you have never seen before. they are talking to each other in the issues they care about. even the latino vote, representing 11% of the electoral base, people say why does that matter. that translates to 12.1 million latinos coming out to vote. 12.7 came out in the presidential. 75% of registered latinos came out and voted. folks were questioning, the fact that trump is creating all of this, you know, incessant conversations against the community, is it going to mobilize them, it absolutely did. the challenge is the majority of latinos are under the age of 33. you're going to have a million turning 18 every single year for the next decade. is the progressive movement, if willing, going to invest in them in a strategic way so all of a sudden places like georgia and florida, and texas become secure
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voting blocks for the progressive party or not. that's yet to be seen. >> and you wrote the book, one nation after trump, and part of the argument, right is how to build kind of on this diversity. it's inevitable. you see why republicans have to question birthright citizenship, revoking people's citizenship who have been long time residents. you see the freak out over latino immigration because they can do the math too, there's nothing they can do about the fact that the country is becoming more diverse. they are making sure the people get deported, thrown out or can't vote but that long-term, you cannot sustain that. >> no, i think that's right, and that's why we're having your whole first half of your show was rightly about voter suppression because that is one solution. it just doesn't happen to be a small democratic solution. i was really struck in your opener where there are a couple of races i covered that were on there. on the one side, ayanna pressley in boston, an extraordinary
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young woman who put together a diverse coalition that no one expected to win by the margin it did in the primary, and on the other side, abigail spanberger, a former cia, somebody who worked at cia for many years, a mom of three in an incredibly suburban largely white district, that's the whole coalition sitting there and those two candidates, and i think something's been underplayed in this election, evan kind of got at it. the trump coalition also took it on the chin in a lot of the white blue collar areas that he carried in 2016. in pennsylvania, democrat wins for governor and senator. in michigan, democrats win governor and senator, and in wisconsin, a state that had been drifting republican under scott walker, scott walker loses and democrats also take the senate seat, so i think this is a much
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more telling and significant blow to the trump coalition than we have thought about because we focussed only on their taking those senate seats in what were already very republican states that matters but it's not good for the future of the trump coalition. >> absolutely. i was fielding so many texts on election night of people who were just devastated, democrats who were saying, they didn't feel like a blue wave because we had so much focus on the florida gubernatorial race, and the texas u.s. senate race because those were the exciting races, but when you think about the fact that during the obama years, because of that backlash, democrats gave up something like 900 state legislative seats. they got back a third of them in one night. think about that for a second. it took eight years for democrats to give up those 900 seats. they got a third of them in one night. look at the legislatures that were flipped, colorado, that's going to be important because
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they're going to redistrict that state, and it's going to be democrats in charge. minnesota, maine, governor of maine is moving to florida. he's gone. he's gone to florida. new hampshire, the new york senate, even the new york senate was republican. the connecticut senate. those statewide seats, can you just explain. i'm going to give you a minute to riff on this. those matter, the right to vote, you can't get voters suppressed if the democratic party which wants to expand the electorate is in charge. >> that's why we have seen the losses we have since 2010. it was a massive blue wave on so many levels and what you're talking about is the states, yes, the states are going to be in charge of redistricting, gerrymandering, hey, if we're talking about expanding medicaid, that's coming from the states as well. this is incredibly huge, switching, flipping seven states and let's not forget, we're talking about wisconsin, michigan, illinois, a state like kansas, but wisconsin and michigan, states that donald
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trump won. now it's under the democrat control. this is so big. i mean, and also like we know that ohio now is probably a red state. it is never going to go back to being that swing state anymore. florida is a very difficult complicated state but because of all of these other states we have flipped, we have a different path, multiple paths, difficult but multiple paths to 270 in 2020. what we saw on tuesday night, and clearly the 24, 36 hours after that, more coming in, we may take as close as 40 seat in the house. now we have a path. the electorate is changing, democrats we need to be awake and listen to that and watch that that the elect rate is changing. that is a big flag for us and also now we have more to play with than we did ten years ago or eight years ago. >> could i say something? >> what's interesting, joy, is
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georgia, florida and texas, they should never have been in play in the first place. the fact that texas now is in play is huge because now they sent ten state legislatures that are going to be at the front desk, at the table when it comes to redistricting. that cannot be understated. >> one of the biggest changes, i want to say, one of the biggest winners was obamacare. the health issue dominated the house races. in idaho, in utah, in nebraska, these aren't left wing states. >> yep. >> the medicaid expansion one, the medicaid was an issue in wisconsin, in maine, in the kansas governor's race. obamacare is now setting the minimum standard of what americans expect from their government on health care. this is a huge change from 2010 and 2014. >> yeah, to the point where the president, donald trump was saying, you know, if you like those democrats, they're going to ruin obamacare.
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like, he was like the biggest proponent. he called it obamacare. that would be like fdr calling social security fdr security, so for the rest of time, i mean, they called it obamacare, that was even a huge mistake. people want their obamacare. keep your government hands off my obamacare. even in texas, in these three races where people were so upset, on the strength of the excitement around stacey abrams, andrew gillum and bet to o'rour, they were able to help democrats flip congressional seats. in texas, you have 19 black women who got elected to judgeships in the midterm elections. 19. the fact is, look, the divide in america, and ej writes about this as well, it is very much urban suburban, who are democrats, and ex-urban rural who are republicans. there are more people on the urban suburban side. in a state like utah, if you're a suburban republican, you're
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out. but democrats can win in these states. do republicans understand, though, do they understand that they have the smaller population? so when they just essentially go to war against the urban and suburban population and against ethnic voters, they may win temporary victories but you cannot govern a diverse state if that's who you are because corporations are going to look at that and say, i don't know that we want to be there. if that's what the governor is saying about his own people. >> you know, republicans say we have a problem with women, we have a problem with young voters. no, we don't. young voters and women have a problem with republicans, and we don't realize that. and we think that the way to win them over, specifically with say millennial voters is to put the candace owens and tomi lahrens, who got out and spew fire that excites the base, while insulting millennials, insulting
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women. like dating, if you want somebody to go out with you, you don't say i don't like you, i think you're wrong, come hang out with me. that doesn't work. we have to have thoughtful dialogue with people, and even before we get to the dialogue, we have to listen to issues. think about the nfl kneeling issue, as a republican, it's their right, and we should listen as to why and address those issues as conservatives and use conservative values but, no, the republican party, the big orange guy in the white house said no, they're sons of bitchess, they have issues that should be address, and but we're not smart enough to do that. if we don't get that fixed, we're going to be in trouble in 2020, with the one saving grace if democrats have the 20 or so expected candidates and get somebody too far to the left and n n not, when you run moderate candidates who reflect the
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district itself they ended up being democratic winners. >> it depends. in some cases evan is late, in a lot of cases openly progressive candidates, beto o'rourke, and about andrew gillum, i may not agree with him on issues but i like that he's straightforward and honest, and his values are right. i think with beto it was the same thing. with stacy, there was crossover voting, i prefer the tone of these people. i prefer their values to the trump values, just keep making them mad and that is somehow going to make voters question of fact. >> i think what you saw in a lot of places, former governor tom vilsack of iowa described it well, you have people with broadly progressive views but moderate demeanors, and in districts like the spanberger race, she was reaching out to the other side saying, look, i have my views on these issues,
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but i'm going to represent the whole district including people who vote against you. and whether the candidates were more moderate or moderate sounding or progressive, all of them wanted more people covered by health care. all of them wanted more people to have their right to vote protected. all of them wanted more opportunity for people being frozen out of the economy. one other thing i think we saw is donald trump profited in 2016 because we had a growing economy with a lot of people left out. well, guess what, a lot of those people still feel left out, and they're looking at trump and saying, yeah, all these big economic numbers are good, but my condition really hasn't changed very much. and i think that's going to be an issue going forward that the democratic congress really has to address, and it's something that we unite all wings of this party. >> and a change election benefits the out party, and now
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change means change away from trumpism. >> right. >> and it allows the democrats to actually provide an alternative and to own the narrative of what are those economic policies, that have not surfaced even during the 2016 election, and they really need to focus on what is the economic policies, while the democrats did fantastic in the suburban and urban areas, they have yet to win the rural voters and when it comes to the electoral college because of how it works for the white house they need to figure out how are they going to bring people forward so there is a clear pathway. >> i'm so sorry. i just wanted to say, to find a little bit more about what being progressive means. i think there might be a not a full understanding, but being a progressive means that you want to be multiracial. yes, you have health care is really important, economy is really important, but it's about being inclusive, and i think that's what you saw from gillum, beto and stacey abrams, we have these issues that matter, and by
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the way many of those issues are popular across the board, republican, independent, and democrats, and also they're authentic, so that's the thing because i think it's been for so long that we, people of color, young people have been left out, and so what we're talking about is bringing everyone together and not just be about one side or the other, and i think that's the key here being about progressive. >> it's equity. >> exactly. >> and fairness! and it's important to note, that by the way, beto, and gillum and stacey abrams went out into the rural areas, deep red rural areas and campaigned, which is what democrats should do, and register voters, i don't know if the democrat party does that much anymore. >> thank you very much, up next, donald trump's crusade against black female reporters. and as we go to break, yes, the rockefeller christmas tree just went up outside the studio. the good news is it's beginning to look a lot like christmas.
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to be involved in the russia probe? do you want him to reign in robert mueller? >> what a stupid question that is. what a stupid question, but i watch you a lot, you ask a lot of stupid questions. the same thing with april ryan, you talk about somebody that's a loser she doesn't know what the hell she's doing. >> this week, the three people he went after most viciously had something very obvious in common, black women journalists doing their job, asking questions of the president of the united states. joining me now is tara dow, and somebody who knows donald trump. what is his weird thing with black women? i mean, other than diamond and silk. doesn't seem to like them very much. >> i think there are two things going on with donald trump and black women. number one is that black women have overwhelmingly, the one group that refuses to bow down to donald trump.
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we have been on the forefront of the resistance. we are also not just on the forefront of the resistance, but we are actually behind the defeat of a lot of his candidates. it was black women, black women voters, black women organizers, roy moore is a perfect example in alabama, a ruby red state, we have talked about this over and over again, trump had backed more, ultimatelily and came out aggressively for him. that is part of what his issue is. the second thing is trump knows what racial buttons to push. he has, he always has from the central park five. his attacks are specific. talking about black women are stupid, low iq, those are very specific attacks that have a historic context, and so i think, number one, trump knows black women voters are not stupid because we are the one group that has not fallen for his con in any kind of significant way.
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overwhelmingly we haven't fallen for his con. >> i would say if you support the candidate who is banned from hot topic, maybe you should expect to lose. just my opinion. you never know. anyway, let my play a mash up of donald trump going after not just journalists, here's his take on maxine waters. >> maxine, she's a real beauty, a seriously low iq person, seriously. maxine waters. a very low iq person, maxine waters. i said it the other day, yes, she is a low iq individual. maxine waters, i said it the other day. i mean, honestly, she's somewhere in the mid-60s, i believe. maxine waters a very low iq individual. did you ever see her? do you ever see her? we will impeach him.
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we will impeach the president, but he hasn't done anything wrong. it doesn't matter, we will impeach him. she's a low iq individual. you can't help it. >> and that's always his attack, right, it's always going after women's intelligence. obviously you know what, i bet what maxine waters is smart enough to do, get your tax returns, head of the committee to get your tax returns. he knows she is unafraid of him. but even people who have been his allies in the past, omarosa, also, you know, we all know from the apprentice a woman who said he will make everyone who was ever mean to him bow down before she changed sides. she said you will bow down. he then decides she's a dog, a dog. >> a low life. >> called her a low life. even his former allies, he's got this particular thing that he tries to go after on women's intelligence, black women, he's called april ryan a loser. >> right. >> told her to go find her friends in the cbc.
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this is consistent. you dealt with donald trump, is this racism plus sexism or is this a strategy? >> i think it's all three. i think donald trump is a racist. i think he's also a sexist and a missole judge n m misogynist, and he has this masterful understanding of what buttons to push. he saw what the republican party really was, he saw what excited the base and jumped on the band wagon. i want to make a point why what he's doing is so particularly insidious to black women. as a small business owner a study came out and said his rhetoric is having scientifically, in the "washington post" on halloween. his rhetoric is having an impact on people, not just people who already have, you know, tendencies in terms of racism, but having an impact on white people generally, and let me tell you why that's important because as a black woman business owner when i sit across the table from someone and i'm
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pitching business and they think i'm inferior or not smart, or low iq, that affects my ability to get business, to pay the people that work for me. if you're a worker sending a resume out and people have this unconscious or implicit buys ya, that affects -- bias, that affects their ability to get a job. if you have a resume that's better than a white counter part but if you have a black sounding name, that you are likely not to get that job. and so that's why this matters, and people need to realize this isn't just about his attacks, this has real world implications on people's lives. >> and i want to quickly say because the other group he doesn't like obviously are journalists, what he did to abby philip of politico, i don't know how politico sends her back in there. he doesn't deserve to cover him. calling her racist for asking questions about his kmoencommen charlottesville, in the same 24
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hours, a white nationalist group went on a tour of the white house and posted instagram pictures of it. she's an absolutely down the middle journalist, but he has this fixation with jim acosta, who by the way, is cuban american, here is the exchange, and i don't like to play a lot of trump on the show. if people notice i don't play a lot of it. i'm going to play this exchange because it was so the way the president of the united states comports himself. >> if i may ask one other question. . are you worried? >> that's enough. that's enough. that's enough. >> the other folks have had -- pardon me, ma'am. mr. president i had one other question if i may ask on the russia investigation, are you concerned that you may have indictments -- >> i'm not concerned about anything with the russia investigation because it's a hoax. that's enough, put down the mic. >> are you worried about indictments coming down in this investigation? >> i'll tell you what, cnn should be ashamed of itself
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having you working for them. you are a rude, terrible person. you shouldn't be working for cnn. go ahead. >> by the way, and you know, he works with the competition, jim acosta is a damn good reporter, doing what a reporter is supposed to do. i want to know what you see going on. you see trump pacing, he looked like he was going to explode, and you can see him pay attention to this woman. this woman is an intern, he has an intern jump up and try to take the mic out of jim acosta's hand and they use doctored video of the exchange, which jim acosta, he called her ma'am, he was very polite, trying to finish the question, and then they tried to use this intern being thrown out there to do that, to take jim acosta's hard pass. unprecedented and now he's threatening if reporters aren't respectful, meaning if you don't bow down, if you're not nice, if your coverage isn't nice, you will be banned. what do you see, when you see donald trump pacing and grunting and you hear that breathy voice.
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he was visibly enraged. what do you see happening there, as someone who knows him? >> donald trump is vengeful and vindictive. this is the side that's going to become increasingly worse. he's under pressure on the russia investigation, he lost seats in the house. >> does he understand this was a loss even though he said it was a win. >> i think he understands it's a loss. he knows. now that the house, whether he thinks it should have been a bigger loss or whatever he thinks, the point is he knows they have investigative powers, the house of representatives has investigative powers. trump is used to getting away with stuff here in new york, right, and so he's gotten away with stuff for years, decades and so now he's in the white house, he's continued to get away with stuff and now he's at the point where all these ryan zinke, he has all these people in his administration that have not been investigated because of the republicans being in leadership, he knows that ends now. >> yeah and his son could get indicted. how far would he go to protect
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his son? >> there's not anything trump wouldn't do, he's a narcissist, a malignant narcissist. >> ask some of his family members. >> thank you very much. appreciate it. next up. may be the best story, a lot of great stories out of the midterm elections, we're going to show you one of the best ones on the other side of the break. s on the other side of the break
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after defeating john osoff. mcbath called herself a man on a mission after her 17-year-old son was shot and killed in 2012 by a man who thought jordan's music was too loud. she's be the first democrat since 1979 to represent georgia's 6th district, same district that tom price gave up to become donald trump's health and human service secretary before resigning in scandal. it's the district represented for two decades by one newton leroy gingrich. joining me is the mayor of columbia, georgia, theresa tomlinson. l tell us a little bit about this win. how is it that lucy mcbath was able to pull off a win where john osoff could not? >> well, the thunder you hear is the return of the two party system to georgia, joy. this is really incredible, you're right to put lucy mcbath
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back in the seat where newt gingrich and tom price once held is transformational. we plowed a lot of field, thanks to organizations like pave it blue, flip the 6, there were people out there going door-to-door for a year to make this happen, and then we had this incredible candidate in lieu si mcbath -- lucy mcbath, two time breast cancer survivor, a passionate woman who said i'm going to take my personal life tragedy and turn it into a mission to serve my community and serve my nation, and she well knows that jordan is looking down on her and smiling, that he is very proud of his mom, and we're very proud to have lucy mcbath representing us in congress. this is my home district. my mom, my dad and my sister live in the 6th. my mom and dad and sister all helped campaign for lucy, so we're very proud as a family that she's now the congresswoman elect for the 6th district. >> tell us a little bit, it is your family home district, what is the district like? what are the demographics like?
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>> yeah, it's really gotten to be a more mixed area, dekalb county is a minority/majority community, obviously you have some very affluent, predominantly white folks in the northern fulton county. you've got a little mix of everything, but what you do have, the republicans there are what i like to call business republicans, more moderate, sensible, nonidealogue republicans, they have been turned off by the donald trump era. and one interesting thing we're going to see in the next few days, white women, once again for the state of georgia disappointed in the turnout for the democrats. we got about 26% of women, white women voted for stacey abrams, which of course is not where we want to be. but i suspect what we're going to see is that white women, all women were turning out strongly for lucy mcbath in the 6th district, and we have carolyn
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bordeaux who forced a recount in the 7th district. we may be well sending two women democrats to congress in january. >> and that's interesting, because one of the things that we were talking about in a previous block was the coat tails of a stacey abrams or an andrew gillum, beto, even if they don't win in the case of stacey abrams, her runoff, but they have real coat tails, even in suburban districts that are predominantly white, you are seeing that kind of hard turn against the republicans. >> that's exactly right. lucy mcbath is one of my favorite stories and there were other amazing stories across the country after tuesday night's huge win, but in this instance, you're right, stacey abrams was such a strong candidate, because very much a national election for her race that it really helped the down ballot elections as well. it was high turnout, incredibly high turnout in georgia. and also you had donald trump as you guys were just discussing
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was a drag on suburban voters, on educated women, and also her personal story, it was incredibly tragic, it cut through the noise and she was able to really, you saw her passion, you really saw who she was. as a candidate. we have to remember, tom price won this district in 2016 by 23 points and donald trump only won it by two points and john osoff lost by four. a lot of experts did not see this district being in jeopardy for karyn handle but because of the cdynamic of this election ad also having louisy mcbath being -- lucy mcbath being a passionate, authentic candidate, it worked out to her story. i love this story. i went canvassing for her last weekend when i was in georgia and talked to people at the doors about her, and they were thrilled. they were excited about her and her candidacy, and her story. they really felt heartfelt for
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her. >> yeah, and you know, i wonder, mayor tomlinson about the issue of guns in georgia, obviously when i was down there, you see signs on restaurants that say no guns allowed, which is a little bit jarring for somebody who comes from a blue state to say, oh, my god, people carry guns, i was told by a restaurant owner people go to a waffle house with their side arms on, that would freak me out, but people do it. in a state like that, how unusual is it for somebody who really was running very strongly on gun reform actually won in this district? right. well, first of all, i would say be careful about generalities in georgia because we do have a very sophisticated electorate. we have rural areas where people have a great passion for hunting and we have large urban and suburban areas where that's not as much a part of the daily life, and people want sensible gun control. they want to be safe in their places of business. they want their kids to be safe in school.
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all throughout georgia, i don't care if you're rural or urban, and so people are ready. we poll very strongly, just like the rest of the nation does, for sensible gun control laws. and now it's our legislature that's out of step and in fact, three of the most outrageous pieces of legislation that passed in the last couple of years in georgia were actually not supported in polling and were not supported by our law enforcement agencies across the board because it endangers their lives as well as the lives that they're trying to protect. so folks like lucy really speak to average georgians and i think that's what you saw on election day tuesday. >> very quickly, careen, what does this tell democrats, democrats presumed certain things about the south, you can't go to the rural areas, you can't talk about guns, all of that kind of seems to have been swept aside in this midterm? >> yeah, it really has been swept aside in this midterm. you need an authentic candidate, you need someone who can speak to everyone, who has a story
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who's able to talk about real issues. and the issues were there, economy, health care, tax cuts, in some very red districts that i went to across the country, people really weren't stupid. they understood what the tax cuts were, whether you were a republican or democrat. and so that mattered. one last thing i want to say. i have a friend who grew up in georgia 6. she said when she was younger, parents would dress their kids in confederate outfits and the kids who dressed in malcolm x t-shirts would get kicked out of school. this is a major win, the first woman of color to be elected in this district. >> i have interviewed lucy mcbath, an incredible person and i have to ask you mayor tomlinson, there is another race coming up, a runoff for a clearly important seat, secretary of state in georgia as well. >> right, you've heard a lot of outrage the last few days, certainly, and weeks about this voter suppression. we need to make it easy for people to vote in georgia. we need a new secretary of
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state. we have that opportunity. we have john barrow, running for secretary of state on the democratic ticket. people need to get out and support him in this runoff on december 4th, go ahead and mark your calendars right now to support john baro for social media of georgia. he's a lawyer. he represented us in congress for five terms. he knows what he's doing. he's a smart guy and he's going to fix this business about voter suppression from georgia. >> do you think stacy abrams will wind up in that runoff too? >> you know, its a possibility. the numbers are difficult. they just are, but we cannot lose sight of what stacy abrams has done for the state of georgia. she has literally brought back the two-party system. it is important. she deserves that credit and i do hope that there is a runoff. >> all right. we will definitely be watching. thank you, both, have a wonderful day. up next, florida, florida, florida.
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we are just moments away from the noon deadline for florida's 67 counties to submit their ballot returns from tuesday's midterm elections, with the possibility of triggering recounts in both the
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senate and gubernatorial races and with one statewide race already changing hands. every single vote truly does count. steve shale and ali vitaly where the virts are headed. what do we expect to happen at noon? is an larm going to go off in that building? what is going to happen at noon when all those ballots get there? >> we've been talking about this noon deadline and now that its finally here. at around 2:00, we'll hear there's an official recount in effect and happening. that's what we've been moving towards all week. we just heard from our colleague ron allen who's down in broward county who tells us that they've transmitted their canvassing results to the secretary of state's office. broward county has seemed to have met that deadline.
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that's important because that's one of those places that's really in heavy contention right now for both republicans and democrats. democrats hoping all the votes can be counted including those provisional ballots and things like that so they can continue to tighten the margins. by counting more of those they'll see more votes swinging their way. rick scott actually sued that county and its election supervisor brenda snipes so they could see what the final vote tally was and how many votes were left to be counted. we're not sure about that vote total right now. that number still hasn't come our way. the fact that they did meet that noon deadline is important. what we're expecting next is to hear from the secretary of state that we are officially in recount mode. >> steve, just explain to me if this is how it works. you pass your paper ballot into an optical scanner, it takes a picture of it and transmits that data electronically. is that the thing that people are worried is sitting in trucks some where being sent to
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tallahassee? >> reporter: correct. those ballots are then kept and stored in a box and when the recount begins they'll run all those same bollots through the same machines. they'll separate the ballots that don't read. at the end of that process, if the count is inside of a .25 of a point, they will manually inspect those ballots. >> there was a deadline for people to get in their provisional ballots to, essentially, make the status of those ballots official. what do we know about how far elections officials have gotten in curing provisional ballot statuses? >> reporter: as of 5:00 yesterday, voters had to cure their provisional ballot, prove that they're registered to vote and prove they live where they say they live. they have until noon today in order to get those results transmitted. most folks finished that process yesterday.
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we had seven counties this morning that had not yet finished. >> ali, there were a lot of people on social media, a lot of people -- i'm sure you were hearing from as a reporter down there who were wondering, given the fact that it is so up in the air, whether the gillum campaign would rescind that concession, concessions are not legally binding and its just a formty and tradition, it doesn't mean anything legally, do you have any report that the gillum campaign plans to change the status of that concession? >> reporter: we've been in contact with the gillum campaign and the line they've continued to say both off the record, on background, on the record, andrew gillum said it himself is urging all the ballots to be counted. they're not going back on the concession. they did in a statement say they made that decision with different information than they have now. those counts have shifted and that race is at a 4% margin.
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they're in the recount margin they need to be in. we'll hear from gillum today around 3:00 and i imagine that he's going to towing that line urging all votes be counted. >> everything could change. it is florida, afterall. doing a great job down there. that is it for me today. my colleague alex witt will pick up the coverage on this story next. and i'm doing so right now, joy, so you cannot go anywhere, but hello to all of you. joy's not going anywhere, because i'm going to get your reaction to the electoral drama. in florida, it is a noon deadline for all supervisors to file all unofficial electoral results. that is expected to trigger a vote recount. right now you're looking at new video from the officials in broward county. that's where they did receive those final ballots.
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99.97% of that county's ballots have been counted. highly watched races there are within the required margin to launch a recount by machine. you've got governor rick scott who is leading by less than half a percentage point. both sides have mounted legal challenges. >> we believe when every legal ballot is counted we'll win this election. >> i will not sit idly by while unethical liberals try to steal this election from the great people of florida. >> there's a razor thin margin, rather, also in the race for governor. democrat andrew gillum conceded the race. gillum is expected to speak to the media at 3:00 p.m. today. >> you got to stiffen your spine and square your shoulders to the task. i'm prepared to do that. let's count every vote and let's bring it home. >> before leaving for pari t


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