of the supreme court. i'm trying to remember the last time where we think they may have even, the decision may have been written and now they have to decide where this new evidence should undo all of that. thank you for coming on and sharing your views. that's all we have for tonight. i want to thank my friends here if dallas for being terrific hosts here. an amazing affiliate. we'll be back tomorrow with more "meet the press daily." good evening. shout out to dallas. thank you, chuck. we have a lot to get to. later this hour we'll have international news about the protests against president trump chug the return of the baby blip. more on that. meanwhile a new prison assignment for paul manafort. he could be headed to rikers island. and i'm thrilled to tell you i'll be joined by amy klobuchar for her first interview with us since jumping in the race. that's a lot this hour. i hope you'll stick around. we begin with democrats firing

back against the new stone walling by the trump white house. two more white house aides including loyalist and person in every room, hope hicks, to defy congressional subpoenas. the judiciary chair nadler says he won't have it. he's telling reporters, hicks should show up for her hearing later this month. >> are you satisfied with hicks' response? >> that's the kind of interview that lasts as long as it takes to catch tell 58thor. you got the headline. and nancy pelosi's top deputy saying the house should go ahead and something everyone has been thinking about since wednesday. go ahead and issue a subpoena, force bob mueller to testify cynic he's made it clear he doesn't want to speak in public

voluntarily. and then you get to someone who did finally come around to speaking in public. richard nixon's watergate star witness, john dean, will come back for his turn on the hill. the very next day the full house will vote on contempt for attorney general bill barr who adam schif dubbed today, the second most dangerous man in america. >> the attorney general who really is the president's defense lawyer and spokesperson, and who is quite good at it. and has the veneer of respectability to camouflage what he's doing. i think he is the second most dangerous man in the country. >> second most dangerous. the implication being the president. and then as i mentioned before we set up mr. schiff's point, you have contempt coming for don mcgahn. so there is a building in pieces, or a little pieces from the democrats. all this pressure has pelosi wondering whether she needs to do more. because people are saying, is

this impeachment-like? is it time for an actual impeachment probe? 58 house democrats and one republican say it is that time. half the democrats publicly on the committee, we've been told there may be more privately, and now a new push for more than two dozen joined liberal groups saying it is time. one of the most high profile democrats to call for impeachment, alexandria ocasio-cortez says it is time to get on board. >> i think that the tide is turning with the public and seeing exactly what is going on the w the president denying subpoenas. at this point it is getting to become so overwhelming. we need to upheld to rule of law and the constitution of the united states. >> we are joined by michelle goldberg. she has been writing about what's going on in the country. the democratic voters do want

impeachment as the house daudles. >> one of the things that's starting to change, this is much more of a public ground swell than in the past. it used to be that democratic leaders would say, and they've said it to me and you've heard in it interviews. if you go into the country, people aren't talking about. this only people in the beltway are obsessed with mueller and with the repercussions of the mueller report. and that has really, really changed. you've seen it in interviews on this network the other day. benny thompson was on chris hayes' show and he was saying -- >> we have that. let's look at that. >> i'll talk to a lot of people. and to the person, everybody

says, what are you all going to do about president trump? >> there's been a shift in the conversation in my community, in my district. >> the report lays out 11 instances of possible obstruction of justice by the president of the united states. i told you, this is like coming home. >> i've heard the same thing talking to people. they say at the town halls for the first time, as much as people want to ask about prescription drug prices, they say what are you doing to hold this lawless president to account? the other problem that nancy pelosi is moving to address, her alternative has been no, we're going to run these hearings and see where they lead. but until maybe today, they haven't been leading anywhere. because the white house hack so good at stonewalling them. >> ari, i really think donald trump is trying to provoke the

democrats into impeaching him. and democrats naturally have the reaction, well, if he wants us to do it, it must be bad for us politically. but i think there are a couple problems with that assumption. one, it is fighting the last war. it's assuming that because impeachment back fired in the case of bill clinton, that it would back fire in the case of donald trump. i think that presumes a lot we tone know. i think in a way, the bigger problem is trivializing impeachment and politicizing it to that sentence. impeachment is a solemn thing. it has happened twice in our history. i think there's a strong case for it with donald trump. but i don't think democrats can approach it from the point of view of how is this going to may in the election? this isn't a filibuster. this is impeachment. >> there is a procedure-itis that you notice in the way this is discussed by some public

officials. joe biden declares himself an arbiter of frank talk. but he's falling into it as well, using the i-word to suggest to voters that he's open the this while really saying, who knows, someday this may happen. are not you all in charge of this? take a look at the vice president. >> if they get stone walled and can't make any progress, then i think they have no alternative. but to move to an impeachment proceeding. >> if then no alternative, then they will, if you want to be the leader of the party, let alone the president, wouldn't this be around the time you have to tell voters you're for this or not? if not, maybe you make a strong case and explain why? >> i think you're seeing candidates like elizabeth warren who have been on this upward trajectory who started when she came out strongly for impeachment in the immediate

aftermath of the report. in full disclosure, my husband is working with elizabeth warren. the people had politicized it the most, the people had are owesed to it, the democrats opposed to impeachment they're be saying that it is not warranted. >> is that political which i unfeasible for them? >> right. the argument is that it will hurt us in 2020. in these front line districts. >> is that politically infeasible for them? they're caught between saying, you think there's a real case. >> i think the argument they've been making that he is a criminal. he has clearly committed impeachable offenses but we're not going to move to impeachment unless we can we have the republican votes to impeach in the senate. i think it makes them look like they're failing to lead. >> and you have people getting

into that collusion truther space. some democrats still arguing maybe this was something very nefarious or criminal at the level of russian conspiracy. >> the report has over 100 pages on contacts between various russian officials and the trump campaign. >> that bob mueller didn't find to it rise to the level of criminal conspiracy. >> which doesn't mean there wasn't collusion. >> they're still against impeachment. my question then would be, how bad is it if you think volume i is really bad and volume ii is super bad, why are you against impeachment? hang in with me. i i know you're running around. thank you for getting to us.

>> your guest was about the solemn responsibility we have hits the mark. michelle goldberg's piece last week was superb. this is about our responsibility to uphold the rule of law. i have been advocating for the opening of an impeachment inquiry. a formal process for considering whether to move forward with articles of impeachment. i think we've seen substantial evidence in the mueller report. ten specific instances of obstruction of justice. false documents to be untruthful in their testimony. to fire the special counsel and on and on. we've sustain president since the mueller report has been engaging in an ongoing cover-up and trying to prevent us from seeing the full truth. no one in this country chug the president of the united states is above the law. he has attempted to object obstruct. we are proceeding to the next

step to open a formal inquiry to make this decision. this is not future presidents. this is a moment where democrats have to stand up and defend the constitution. >> so you hey that all out. on the hearings themselves, are the democrats wrong to put john dean's, you know, greatest hits back in the day testimony ahead of say, bob mueller? >> no. look. we're continuing to bring, to do what we have to do to get the witnesses before the committee. the conversations with mr. mueller continue. we're going to bring contempt against two witnesses. >> the contempt is important. we've been covering that. on the mueller side, wouldn't you want to hear from mueller before john dean? and hasn't he made clear what his position is? he told you last week publicly, and jerry nadler says they've

been negotiating privately, he told the world. he's only coming if he's subpoenaed. >> i think there's no question that robert mueller made it cheer to the committee and the american people that he would prefer not to testify. in my view, it is his duty to testify. in he's not willing to do it voluntaril voluntarily. >> i'm only questioning you because he said if. he said wednesday in halawyerly words. he said you would have to subpoena me to come. when would that subpoena come? >> i would advocate for that subpoena immediately. >> immediately. >> yeah. the chairman is continuing. and they're talking to the mueller team on see if they can reach an accommodation for him to come on his own. he has to come before the committee. >> you had me and now you just lost me. he ain't coming. he age coming voluntarily. >> no, no.

i'm saying if he doesn't come voluntarily, if that's the final determination he makes, then i have every confidence the chairman will issue the subpoena will comply with that. this is an investigation did he on behalf of the american people. he now has an obligation to walk the american people through the mueller report, the determinations he's made. it was an attack on our presidential elections. that's the reason it began. i think people want to give him every benefit of every doubt. if he says, i will not come unless you subpoena me, then we ought to subpoena him immediately. >> that's what i think he said. final thought? >> well, we're very focused on the mueller report and obstruction of justice is almost certainly the first article of

impeachment. i don't think it is the only one. we're tending to forget the others. high crimes and misdemeanors is about the abuse of power. not all crimes are impeachable defenses and not all impeachable defenses are crimes. i think donald trump pointed at another impeachable offense yesterday when he called for a boycott on at&t on twitter against cnn. i think that's an article of impeachment rehated to corruption. the way he and his family have enriched themselves. i think they have to be aired and further investigated. i'm not sure what the articles of impeachment are but it is not just the mueller report or just obstruction. >> and that goes to what the congresswoman was arguing earlier. they have to do night serious way stipulating if it goes that direction, there is a process people have to abide by. not because of the politics but because if it is what the congress wants to do.

if not, then congress will let us know and we'll move forward on the other stories. the speaker seems to be holding out maybe possibly someday. very interesting stuff. thanks to each of you. appreciate it. >> coming up, thundershowers flooding the streets to to protest the streets of london as he makes this claim. plus, bob mueller's spokesman telling me he won't comment on some explosive comments in a new book. we'll get into what it means when they won't comment on leaks from bob mueller's office. and paul manafort heading to rikers. and then amy klobuchar will be here. here , but when you book at hilton.com, you get the price match guarantee. so if you find your room at a lower rate, hilton is like...

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teresa may. and this is a 20-foot diaper clad inflatable donald trump baby clutching his cell phone. a "game of thrones" reference. we'd rather have a visit from the knight king. and then trump for prison and the queen loathes you. fact check, not publicly true based on the cordial greeting. trump did what he does. not rise above it. not engage in diplomacy. no, he broke ground by going to this country and attacking the mayor of london for a poor job. then talked up his time with mexico and then claimed the protests you see with his own eyes in the country where he is a visitor, he says it's not even real. >> even coming over today, there were thousands of people cheering. and then i heard there were protesters. i said where are the protests?

i don't see any. i did see a protest, very small. so a lot of it is fake news, i hate to say. i didn't see the protesters until a little while ago. and it was a very, very small group of people put in for political reasons. so it was fake news. >> i'm joined by the white house columnist for the hill. nile, what does it all mean? >> what it means for a start is that president trump continues to believe that the statement of facts is in some way a smear against him. i mean, there were protesters. there it's not fake news. it is the evidence of our own eyes. and the other thing i would say is that this visit reminds me how expectations for the president have been lowered internationally as well as domestically. the mere fact that he didn't, as he has done in the past, retweet quas fascists or declare that

areas of london are no go areas is seen as some kind of victory. he didn't create a major international incident is called for to us yell hooray. >> take a look at how this was covered on fox news. >> and here comes e-ivankaa and john bolten and some security and ivanka trump, walking across together. . it's not for ivanka. it's for john bolten and he loves it. >> are there eyeglasses so you know who the boos are for when you're covering a live event? >> it is a special british form of genius. that you can mind read the boo-ers. this is absurd to try to protect

the president by everybody gauging in propaganda abroad as well as at home. >> the trump administration and the trump family and donald trump have a creative and casual relationship with the truth and with fact. and that's on full display here. so there is an alternative reality happening within this world. with that that, the brits absolutely know how to troll the president. they know how to get under his skin and they did it with style, with spectacle. they took day off from work. they spent the day off. we saw the royal family troll in their own little way. the other thing to remember is that protests matters. we saw protests in 2003 after the announcement about the invasion of iraq. global protests. we saw protests during donald trump's inauguration all over the world. millions of people. and we're seeing on a national stage. a global stage.

that we really are isolating ourselves. the united states is isolating ourselves and that dwloebl powers, people we've considered allies, people we've been in coalition with, are rejecting the nation and that does matter. >> and i wonder what you think as a professor. donald trump is not the first president to delight in certain foreign clashes. as an attitude and playing it back home. of course they dislike me there. i fight for us. so there's nothing unique about that nationalism. when you see the british leader corbin going out, breaking tradition today to march with the protesters of a visiting u.s. president. you do start to would understand that term we used to hear about, soft power. we just don't have the allies in our corner or do you think it's overstated? >> so we've heard this at the beginning of trump's presidency.

a number of foreign powers, people we had considered allies, had been engaged in good diplomatic relations with, had said we can't count on the united states anymore. we have to go it on our own. we have to look to other powers, to other lingss. and we know that donald trump and the trump administration seem to feel very comfortable with authoritarian governments, with dictatorships, with questionable, problematic governments that have really alarming relationships to human rights, to ethics and that kind of thing. so what we're seeing, a re-alignment. and like up, we've seen presidents before who have had tense negotiations with other presidents. i don't know that we've seen something of this magnitude. in the current moment. and that should be cause for alarm. >> i'm almost out of time here. i did want to hear your accent one more time. >> all i can say with donald

trump is there ain't no heart in the love of the city. >> wow! age no love in the heart of the city. age no love in the heart of up to. a jay-z remix. who was the orange? i'm not sure. >> the name is escaping me now. it was a soul singer of the '70s. >> can i phone a friend? >> it's not coming back to me. control room is telling me, not only can i not call a friend but i'm out of time document we have it? no. we don't have it. the news is fast but not that fast. if you are watching this and you have twitter, please tweet me with the answer. there are reports coming in, it may be bobby bland. we need a second source but that's what we have. when we come back in 30 seconds, a developing story on paul manafort. first, these critical reports of leaked mueller memos. they would be the first but they

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including the controversial ones like not forcing trump to testify. he is famously tight-lipped. hearing from him, democrats say it could inform our understanding of all of this and whether the house wants to impeach or not. that's the context for something, that you may not have heard about. it is brands new. an alleged peek inside mueller's operation. this comes from a new book, siege. he claims he obtained written memos from inside mueller's office for the first time. we've read them which is why i'm talking to you about it. it explains the heart of legal powers. it explores what mueller and his team might do in doomsday scenarios, including the big one, what if trump fired mueller or issued pardons to effectively tend whole probe. so whatever you think of these trump books that come out. this is big stuff with long quotes allegedly from inside

mueller's office. we do what we do around here. i personally asked the justice department and mueller's former spokesman, former because he quit, resigned. whether these quotes from the memos was accurate. this is all i can tell you. the doj declined to comment or to object to the veracity of these memos on the record. if they objected, i would tell you that. now what do we have? mueller's team basically discussing what would they do if trump fired mueller and they were discussing this in a very real way. the "new york times" reporting that trump was trying to do that. mueller's team did what mueller did. they got a team, they researched the law, they looked in a fair way, not to just defend themselves but to understand. could trump fire the special counsel this and wolfe says, to basically fire mueller, fire special counsel directly, or

restroke prools would pro had i been that. now, let me read to you exactly what the doj that. that's ang important part. we can only refer you to the report and mr. mueller's statement last week. as you may know, sometimes the justice department and other agencies that have secrecy like the cia, they will sometimes today we won't comment but they'll wave you off. this is not real stuff. they didn't do it here. i want to bring in our experts to get through these items. the former federal prosecutor. john, when you look at the quote we just read, which wolff says is written analysis, it shows they basically came to a legal view that trump could end the probe by firing him. how do you think that might

affect their deliberations and their decisions? >> well, i think they were very concerned in september, they were going to have to be renewed in terms of funding. if not, they were over. and i think that was an intimidation for a bureaucratic special counsel. this happened in march of 2018. and that is significant because they propose three things in that memo. a 56-page memo. one, the three articles, the three charges against the president. secondly, that they had the legal opinion that you could indict a sitting president. and the third thing was, whether or not they could fire mueller. and they decide that had the special counsel race that they had, if the attorney general were to say they were not effective, then the president could fire mueller. they also asked whether or not -- >> just on that point. so again, the doj is not saying

that's not the case. they have disputed other things. if that's what the mueller folks thought, does that explain why mueller held back for the interview? >> well, it says something worse. it says his report is a lie in the sense that he is publicly said we never considered indicting. here's an interesting thing. march 2018, they have this 56-page memo. it is june when we have this unsolicited opinion by barr that goes to rosenstein and to the white house counsel saying that you can prosecute obstruction which were the object crimes in the memo. >> so wolff has been playing in on some of this. let's take a look. >> the conclusion is yes, the president could fire robert mueller. what happens to the work product? they ask if they are fired.

well, the chances, the possibility is that it could be completely destroyed. >> rob mueller looked at this and said, you know, this guy, donald trump, could bring the house down. he could bring the temple down. as everybody's football coach probably told them, stop worrying about what they're going to do to you and start worrying about what you're going to do to them. mueller clearly played this game not to lose. we already know that mueller didn't go as hard as he could have to get the actual sit down interview. we already know. i see you've got a bunch. on the memo part, what i'm asking, do you think that this means that trump got in their head in a way? >> exactly that.

it is like the old mike tyson thing. he would win the fight before he got in the ring because people were scared of him. this goes to the institutionalist aspect of the mueller investigation. he was more concerned with his own institution. his open part of the store than the rest the house burning down. >> which you say is someone who cares a lot about the underlying allegations. the issues with donald trump. people matter and say i heard so many good things about moou. there are many good things. particularly his nonpartisanship and integrity. sometimes when investigations end, we learn more stuff. is what was going on inside if they were concerned about this stuff. i want to do pardons as well. the team considered the idea that trump could just pardon everybody. flynn, family members. and this was their conclusion. according to wolff, this is quoting what he said was mueller's office, the president can pardon his family members or

close associates even for the purpose of impeding investigations. your view. >> i don't believe you can. i believe they thought they were executives and they had nixon corollary. if the president said it is the law, so it is because the president said it. i think the people around him, the justice department, both rosenstein and barr, they all believe that. the fact is, it is an old statement and the darrel of justice had this ruling. you can't be a judge in your own matter. so you can't give yourself a pardon. you can't give your family members a pardon. you can't do any of these things. if that were test in the court, that would be found to be a failure. >> let me ask you the toughest question. this is the one i'm really wondering. if wolff is on the right track. if these quotes are substantially in the ballpark of what was being internally discussed, why would this be coming out?

>> i think it is coming out because the author ofrt publication, andrew wiceman, he's the stronger prosecutor by public and private accounts of the entire team. he was a junk yard dog. and if it came from anybody -- >> i think because they're slightly embarrassed about what's happening. the mueller team with all their honor and integrity, people are starting to see that they did not go as far as they could have. i think if this is really leaking, part of the reason it is leaking, he could have pardoned this guy. he would have destroyed evidence. >> what you're saying, i think you're right. i'm not confirming it. no one is confirming who leaked what if this is the memo. the reason that some lawyers might be talking later, now that mueller has resigned, to explain and make themselves look better as they sit around and try to

explain. why did it end like that? an interesting theory. i want to repeat my thanks. stay with me and i want to repeat my caveats. we reach out for comment. we'll update further if we get more. and i think he would acknowledge as well, publicly attacked by folks. this is certainly interesting quotes if doj is telling us they're not real. still to come, donald trump's campaign chair could be headed for rikers island. and tonight, amy klobuchar. lobur your home at a great price, the way it works best for you, i'll take that. wait honey, no. when you want it. you get a delivery experience you can always count on. you get your perfect find at a price to match, on your own schedule. you get fast and free shipping on the things that make your home feel like you. that's what you get when you've got wayfair. so shop now!

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it has not been finalized. prosecutor john flannery is here to explain many parts of the manafort process, the legal process involved allegations of special and favorable treatment. if he is send to rikers, this would be just like anybody else awaiting trial. >> not in his case but it would in some sense. >> likers is where a lot of people get struck. >> in very terrible conditions smfrl people who read about it would imagine the terrible conditions. he will be in a special facility. but isolation is no fun for anyone. he has been spent time already waiting for prosecution in manhattan. >> you're not supposed to use these assignments to scare people but do you think this could as a practical matter,

have an if he can on roger stone? >> i always wonder what the organized crime part of this does to the decisions. meaning the russians he in knew organized crime and what american cousins were involved. it would tighten anybody's sfinkter muscles to decide, facing lifetime custody between the federal and now the state prosecution. >> we were talking about the hypothetical idea. this is a reminder that totally apart from what mueller did, the legal process grinds on in other cases and the state will have its turn at paul manafort. as i always mention, he is presumed innocent in new york as a defendant. >> and the pardon won't operate on this prosecution. there will be a contest about it but this is a dire circumstance for him. >> thanks for being part of multiple segments.

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now we know. a happy one to you as well. we see you there tussling there with attorney general barr. should bob mueller be forced to publicly testify by speaker pelosi? >> i think that he should go before the house. i'm sure first they will ask and they can use a subpoena. i think it is really important that he appear before the house in this investigation, know allowed to continue. i also asked attorney general barr whether or not the mueller team had looked at trump's taxes and financial documents. and i don't know if you know what he said. i'll have to ask him. i said, okay. but then he has to come before us to do that. and that is the problem. so he's not only not come before the senate. he's not come before the house. we did have the press conference. i think it is really important that there be accountability. this investigation continues and

that means both barr testified before the house. not just the senate. as well as, of course, bob mueller appearing before both bodies but the house has the power to subpoena him. >> in your we saw you pressing him and him basically trying to dodge around the idea that the reported conflicting evidence although we know he resolved the questions publicly. i was looking at the statement you put out after mueller spoke saying he should testify, saying that basically an expanded vsk or impeachment hearings are way to investigate this and you talked about paper ballots and online ads. at this point should we take this as sort of your ending view of the matter or do you think there should be a potentially impeachment and if so, when? >> of course i think there could be impeachment. if they keep stonewalling,s that

o one way they can proceed. they must continue. the other piece of this in my statement is one of the major reason it has to continue is we need the american public to understand what russia did. we have been unable to get the republicans to pass the bill and pushing for back up paper ballots. that's a secure elections act. my bipartisan bill. they also refused to pass legislation that require the social media companies to do just like your tv does and that is say where ads are coming from and what they are and how they are paid for. we will see $3 to $4 billion on internet. this is the underpinning of our democracy that we have fair elections. >> that's regulation which is something i want to ask you about. they talked about beefing up antitrust and a lot of americans concerned about consolidating

power and the companies, tech and elsewhere. how does that work for and you do you find voters care about this or not so much? >> i remember being in a cafe and i heard someone say hey, i saw you on tv. i said was it about russia? she said no, it was about the things being too big. things are too big and that's right. i would start with that. we have a situation with a record number of mega mergers and many industries in addition tech where we have seen the mergers in agriculture, in places like railroads. there is only four major class one railroads which is the exact number on the monopoly board. i introduced legislation that said let's look at the new reality we are in right now. make sure that our agencies have enough resources to be a sophisticated as the big companies that are controlling

so much market power that are monopolizatiing industries and h is a good example of that and if mergers come before us, let's be able to look at them in different ways. there you go with tech, but they control the customers under them or the fact that when you have a mega merger that burdens should be on the companies to show that is doesn't hurt competition. those are things that might build us. it is common sense and you should be able to look back 59 the purchases like facebook's purchase of instagram and what's app so you are able to look at it to make sure we have a competitive market. it is a major price issue for consumers and innovation for small businesses and start ups if they can't get in the market. >> in so many cases it's consumer choice and the pipeline of information and democracy. my closing question for you, in a sentence or two, what makes

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>> before we go, a programming note. tomorrow we have a first-time guest on the beat. the fbi jim baker in the room for so many things.

comey controversies and the russia probe is on the beat tomorrow. also joined by george will about what it means to be conservative right now and we will hear from a doj official who said donald trump obstructed justice. all that on the beat tomorrow. right now, it's "hardball." >> london broil. let's play "hardball." good evening. i'm chris matthews back in washington on this second day of president trump's state visit to the uk. pomp and circumstance were jout shown by politics and protest. the american partner and protest was met on the streets of london with fierce resistance. at buckingham palace, the giant balloon