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here today. that's all from normandy. >> thank you. don't go too far. we'll be back to you very soon. hello, everyone. we begin with breaking news. waeft point cadet is dead and almost two dozen people injured in an accident involving a military vehicle. we are awaiting a presser with officials at any moment and we'll bring that to you live. the accident happened early this morning near a training site in new york. you're actually looking at the tactical truck from above. it is flipped over on its roof. president trump tweeting moments ago, so sorry to hear about the terrible accident involving our great west point cadets. we mourn the loss of life and pray for the injured. god bless them all. ron allen has been covering this for us here. stephanie gosk is at west point. what do we know happened? >> we know this happened at 6:45 in the morning in the light of
dawn. we know that the road conditions seemed to be just fine. we believe that there have been as many as 20 or more troops in what was described as a personnel carrier. a truck with a cab in the front and then an area in the back where there are troops who are sitting. and the investigators will question, were there too many people in the back? too many troops in the back? we know that one cadet died. we know there were injuries to as many as 20 other troops who were there. back and neck injuries were some of the earlier reports. again, a lot of detail is still missing from all this. >> we don't know what caused this. this personnel carrier that we're looking at here, or tactical vehicle, to have flipped of we don't know if there was a weather condition issue or the speed of the vehicle. >> we don't know what type of training they were doing but of course the training there can be very rigorous and intense. it is meant to simulate warfare and combat. you can see it is a very rugged part of new york state which is why west point is there.
and there are steep hills and it is a very dense terrain. it could be something as simple as a vehicle accident. however tragically fatal it is. or it could have been they were doing something more intense. those are, of course, the questions we hope will be answered when the officials come forward. >> do we have details yet, we're looking at the vehicle flipped on to its roof. this is an aerial shot. you're not looking through trees from ground level. this is from above. do we have any sense of how many people were in that vehicle? we know there were 20 injured and we bloe one who has died. do we know anything about the capacity of this vehicle? >> i don't know about the capacity of it. we believe there were maybe as many as two dozen troops aboard. soldiers who were trainers and some cadets. this training camp is a summer camp. it is where the troops go. as i understand it, these are
usually cadets in their second year of training. they spend the summer there. it is part of the right of passage and all this is just a very grim reminder of the hard work that troops do day in and day out. even in peace time. the sacrifices they and their families make in something as apparently what could be a simple traffic accident. >> that's the thing. it seems benign to us. we've reported on accidents that happen on bases and it is jarring. you don't think about these things. the training that these soldiers have to go through is rigorous and dangerous. they don't train them for nothing. they train them in hard circumstances. i don't have a recollection of a lot of accidents at west point. >> i don't either. but i know there are a lot of accidents with the military. there are all sorts of accidents involving vehicles, aircraft.
accidents do happen. because again, it is an intense environment. these are troops training to go to war. so the training is very serious. it is meant to simulate the intensity, emotional, physical, stress and strain. >> and to some degree, the danger. >> we forget that in combat, in dangerous situations, a lot of people are killed because of the dangerous situations. not just under enemy fire. we don't have a lot but we are expecting a press conference from officials at west point. ron and i will listen to that very closely. we'll bring that to you live when it happens. thank you. you can see they're assembling, getting ready for the press conference. we're looking for a lot of detail. what we understand is at least one person has died and 20 others are injured. this includes cadets and
soldiers who were involved in the training. we'll stay with that story and come back to it shortly. president trump's trade wars taking center stage even on d-dated. trade talks will continue between the trump administration and mexican officials at the white house. this morning the president discussed tariffs. casting a shadow over his trade trip to normandy. >> additional tariffs in china? well, you mean, when am i going to put the extra $325 billion worth of tariffs? i will make that decision over the next two weeks. probably right after the g-20. one way or the other i'll make that decision. after the g-20. >> what must mexico do? what can they do to stem this massive thai? 140,000 people in may? >> when you're the piggy bank, they deceive you, tariffs are a
beautiful thing. it is a beautiful word if you know how to use them properly. republicans should love what i'm doing. >> tariffs are a beautiful thing. mitch mcconnell told white house officials he should hold off imposing tariffs on mexico until making the argument to gop leaders. the first tariffs on mexican imports is set to take effect on monday. joining me from limerick, ireland. what's the likely outcome here? it does seem a little strange that they're not on the same page or they haven't even coordinated on talking points? >> reporter: if past is present, senate republican there's capitulate to the president. we've seen it so many times. the president bending them to his will. i don't think it is likely that it will come off his position. we heard from him twice today.
the first time he seemed to be insulting senate republicans saying they didn't understand the beauty of tariffs. and then later in that interview with fox news, the president said republicans should love his approach. the president said he's taking calls from senate republicans. so he's taking incoming and the president of the united states doesn't seem likely to compromise. he believes in tariffs. it is very difficult to see how he can have a meeting in person with senate republicans before that deadline comes and passes on monday. >> the talks are expected as we know within an hour or so between mexican officials and the trump administration. again, we have no sense really about what the mexican officials seemed somewhat positive about the fact they can get something done by monday. but we don't know what's on the table and what's not. >> well, talking to the president, he wants to see the numbers of migrants come down. so there can be a lot of
thresholds as you reach that goal on what you do to the criminal gangs, what sort of penalties. the president wants to see one thing. the numbers come down. that's what he's focused on and frustrated about. you saw it play out at the same time the president has been looking for unique ways. he's been somewhat stymied in building the wall and bringing the numbers down. you see the video. the grainy images of migrants trying to cross the border. that affects the president. it bothers him. what he wants to see is the numbers come down. i would caution on all this. the president of the past criticized. he threatened to shut down the border. and then he says, mexico is doing a much better job. he's the arbiter on all of this. >> that's exactly the point. he decides when mexico is doing a good job and when they're doing nothing and we'll find out once they conclude their talks. thank you.
coming up later, what these potential tariffs on mexico mean for the price of products you buy every day. i'll break that down for you. nancy pelosi told senior democrats this week that she wants to see president trump, quote, in prison rather than impeach him. politico reports citing unnamed sources that pelosi made the comment when house judiciary chairman jerry nadler pushed the speaker to launch an impeachment inquiry. she said she wants to see president trump defeat in 2020 and then prosecuted for his alleged crimes. we should note, nbc news has not confirmed this report. politico did not characterize the full context or tone of pelosi's reported comments. joining me, contributor jonathan capehart. the speaker reportedly wants to see trump in prison. this is the kind of stuff that trump seems to take very personally and it does seem to affect him.
is nancy pelosi making a deliberate decision that she has pressure from part of her party or she's going to sacrifice the relationship, the working relationship she has with donald trump by saying this? >> well, working relationship, we must take that with a grain of salt. whether the president will take umbrage with what nancy pelosi says as we long now know, the president takes umbrage with anything said about him that isn't nice. so those caveats being put out there, i think again, politico is reporting this. you have already acknowledged nbc news has not been able to confirm how this conversation went. but the idea that there are people who are reporting from that meeting that the speaker said she would like to see the president in jail. it is sort of, keeping in line with what i've been hearing, the reporting that i've been doing. there is a lot of pressure within the caucus as we all know. i think based on two fronts.
one, clearly there's anger at the president and what he's done and his policies. but also anger at what has been laid out in the mueller report. the ten instances of possible obstruction, leave aside the interference of the russians in the 2016 election. i think what is driving a lot, at least within the democratic caucus, is a feeling that they have a constitutional duty to be not only a check and ballot president. a check and pal on the executive. but to stand up for the rule of law. so you have a restive base coming up against committee leadership and a speaker who are looking to be methodical and deliberate and very careful about how they go about this. both in terms of building up public support, educating the public about what is going on. you and i both know. most people have not even read the mueller report. most may never read the mueller
report. and so in order for impeachment to really push forward, people have to be educated. i think steve at the mad over blog has the best take of any that i've read. i agree with him that he is supposing that impeachment is one of those things where you can impeach the president in the house. because the senate is run by mitch mcconnell, leader of the republicans, removal of the president won't happen. he remains in office. if indeed speaker pelosi said to her caucus, she would rather see president trump in jail, what that means is, after he leaves office, from their perspective, preferably january 20th, 2021, he is open to legal liability and could be put in jail for crimes by prosecutors. and that is the ultimate punishment. >> the president was asked about former special counsel robert mueller testifying on fox news.
let's just listen to this together. >> he made such a fool out of himself the last time. what people don't report is the letter he had to do to straighten out his testimony. his testimony was wrong. but nancy pelosi, i call her nervous nancy. she doesn't talk about it. nancy pelosi is a disaster. okay? she's a disaster. and let her do what she wants. you know what? i think they're in big trouble. >> a little hard to follow. he's talking about mueller and his testimony being wrong. that's why he had to write a letter. do you make any sense of that? >> no. i could not make any sense of that at all. it is the president. let's keep in mind that interview he gave with laura ingram was before he gave his speech commemorating the normandy invasion. the very stately speech that he gave. but it is typical president trump. calling people names. degrading and belittling people.
and what adds to sort of the horror of what the president was saying is what was in the background as he said it? those white crosses on that pristine green lawn where the bodies of american soldiers who helped liberate france, liberate europe, and saved the world from naziism, are buried, laid to rest. hallowed ground. yet the president used that location and that time to attack his political enemies. given the opportunity to do the same to comment on what is going on back in the states with andrea mitchell, speaker pelosi demured and said, no. this is not the time and place for that. if only the president had taken that same tact. >> always good to talk to you. >> thank you. all right. newly leaked documents at
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problematic his washington, d.c. hotel can be. in particular. according to the post, an iraqi businessman pivotal in the lead-up to the iraq war stayed in a suite at president trump's hotel in washington, d.c. for 26 nights in 2018. this businessman reportedly once had aspirations to be iraq's president, has correspond with michael bolten and mike pompeo about those seeking to overthrow the iranian government. the cost of the stay ranges in the tens of thousands of dollars. before his stay, two former thai prime ministers exiled from the country stayed at the hotel at least one night. these latest episodes are further examples of the shaky mix of personal business and the potential for foreign interests that cultivate perceived favor within the trump administration. the "washington post" previously report on a pr firm that lobbied for saudi arabia booking an estimated 500 nights at the president's d.c. hotel three
months after the 2016 election, and as the merger efforts would sprint, wait on government approval, execs from t-mobile booked 52 nights. the executive, the ceo of the company hanging around in the lobby with a bright t-mobile sweatshirt on. this of course, enriched the president and his family and cast suspicion with watch dogs over government policy toward these high level customers. i want to bring in the report here dug all this up. of course there is the perception that people will try to gain flufl what we have trouble with, what the constitution foresees, how to prove that there is also benefit that flows from doing business with things that enrich government officials. how do we connect the two in. >> in this case, you're right. it is a difficult thing to connect. the people like t-mobile, they're people who want something very badly from trump's administration and they
spend a lot of money on trump's properties. they say the first is totally disconnect from the second one. they just happened to stay at the trump hotel because they liked the hotel. but certainly, it raises a lot of questions about what impact. whatever their intention, what impact those stays and that money could have on decision making within the trump administration. >> there was word early in the administration that the president's properties would donate proceeds from foreign governments or individuals to the u.s. treasury. there was concern that it would be difficult to separate those things out and figure it out. particularly when you're dealing with korvis, the company you reported on, which is a lobbyist for foreign governments. has there been any effort to separate it out and pay money to the treasury? >> we know the trump organization has made two donations from 2017 to 2018 to the treasury. it totals about $300,000. the question is what does that represent? they haven't said much of
anything about how those numbers are calculated. they say this is profit derive from business foreign governments directly. but how they calculate profit. what happens if they spend money a private trump company. the number that matters more, how much in total foreign governments have spend, we don't know. in this case, this guy, the sheikh, he is not a foreign official of the he would like to be president of iraq but he's not right now. they still counted his payments under that foreign patronage policy. we don't know how they apply that policy. it seems to be sort of haphazard. >> all right. thank you very much from the "washington post." i want to bring in joyce vance. we've discussed for a long time how problematic this kind of business is. other than the emoluments chaus which is being evoked by conservative attorneys general in court, what else can be done
to combat this potential conflict? >> this is an interesting situation. jimmy carter famously put his peanut farm into a blind trust to avoid any suggestion that he might ever implement a policy would benefit himself financially. of course, that doesn't seem to be a concern for this president. that's the issue here with the emoluments clause. and outside of some sort of an outright bribe, somebody staying in exchange for a policy decision by the president, which there is no evidence of. it is unlikely there is a federal crime. but what there is here is a clear violation of the oath that the president swore. when he took the oath of office, he promised to uphold the constitution. the emolument clauses, both foreign and domestic, are a part of that constitution. so this conduct would seem to be clearly contrary. >> a lot of americans didn't know anything about this before it came up.
are the test that's we've seen so far evidence the clause needs to be looked at and that it doesn't have teeth in it? or do we need to let the courts decide? >> there are two lawsuits moving forward. like all lawsuits they seem to move at a glacial pace. one is in maryland. one is in the district of columbia. and the district of columbia case, the judge has rejected this very narrow reading of the emolument that's the president has urged. saying it is not given by law. the plaintiffs congress in that case, the ability to move forward with discovery. so that means they'll be able to investigate in essence in the context of that legal case what the president is doing in regard to his businesses. and ultimately, that discovery may prove very interesting and very harmful to the president. >> joyce, always good to see you. thank you for joining us today. joyce vance, for the northern
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welcome back. we're just three weeks away from the first democratic debate. today four of the 2020 democratic presidential candidates are courting black voters in atlanta. senator corey booker spoke at the african-american leadership summit. he appeared to take a swipe at joe biden for supporting the hyde aemtd which bans taxpayer funded programs for paying for abortions. >> this assault on women's reproductive rights is an assault on women but it is particularly an assault on african-american women. and the hyde amendment to deny people through medicaid and medicare abortion rights, that is an assault on african-american women, too.
i am president of the united states. i am going to create in the white house an office of reproductive rights so we can make sure we don't just fight for access to contraceptive care and abortion. we fight to make sure we end the tragedy that america leads industrial nations in maternal mortality. >> he was talking about abortion there. but in fact, they have to make some inroads in the african-american community and there seem to be upticks when they speak directly to african-american voters. how important is that distinction? the idea of getting in there, having conversations with people to hear directly from them what their concerns are. >> reporter: that's a critical point. it was a year ago where the dnc chair in atlantic apologized to black voters saying that we took you for granted and we saw what happened in 2016. so for these candidates to come here in atlantic and address
black voters, black leadership directly to remind them that we are with you, we're here to fight not just for criminal justice, but access to quality health care and education. cory booker mentioned one thing really resonates. when it comes to going against donald trump, it is not standing up for what you're against. it is standing up for what we believe in. today is there anything that has motivated you, connected with you in particular? >> what particularly motivated me is the charge from reverend al sharpton. he definitely gave us a charge to unify. this selection about unity. we separate ourselves. the pigment in our skin, social class. and he reminded us that it is about unity. we need to push forward the black agenda. >> what can the democratic
party, the dnc do to engage voters. after 2016, the enthusiasm will say has fallen off. what can they do? >> the power of engaging millennials. i think nancy pelosi said it best when she spoke to president trump. do not underestimate the power i bring to the meeting. i believe they should not underestimate the power that millennials bring to the party. >> thank you very much. as em, you can't underestimate the power. the candidates and other democratic leaders are here to remind black folks that we are here with you. >> thank you much as always. we'll see you in a couple hours. we'll have another conversation. senator elizabeth warren got fired up at her msnbc town hall shelf explained why she felt joe biden was wrong. she had a dire prediction for president trump.
>> they will still have access to abortions. who won't will be working women. women who can't afford to take off three days from work. will be very young women. women who have been raped. women who have been molested by someone in their own family. we do not pass laws that takeaway that freedom from the women who are most vulnerable. >> donald trump, as president, delayed, deflected, moved, fired, and did everything he could to obstruct justice. if we any other person in the united states, based on what is documented in that report, he would be carried out in handcuffs. >> joining me now, alley who is covering the warren campaign. in addition to those big headline grabbing things she said, with elizabeth warren, if you spend a couple hours
listening to her, there will be a lot of takeaways. many of which are policy oriented. what were your big takeaways? >> reporter: many were policy oriented. it is because the way she campaigns was very similar to the way in which she conducted herself last night when she was on the stage with chris hayes and several others from indiana. she does have a knack for being able to stick to her stump speech and to push her policy plans in the exact same way she does every day on the campaign trail. so the takeaway was despite being pressed several times, and yes, she said joe biden was wrong on the hyde amendment shelf did not draw a lot of contrast between herself and the rest of the field. that's not what she was there for. she was there to present herself as a candidate in her own right. the thing that stood out to me. we're here in indiana. this is a trump state. it is a place where democrats will have to claw back some of the gains that republicans made in 2016 and 2018. and elizabeth warren really did
take trump on in the economic policy realm. specifically when it came to people had a worked at carrier, for example. who lost their jobs and who aren't seeing the economic promises of president trump and mike pension, met now several years into the presidency. as elizabeth warren was pitching her plans, the thing that struck me, there are a lot of dollar signs, how much they'll cost. yes, she says how she'll pay for it in her policy rollouts. a voter asked her, how is she going to pay for all this? and he said she's right to ask that question and then went into her pay fors. how she man's to pay for it. that skepticism really struck me. it is something that doesn't always make it on tv when we talk to you guys but it is something i've heard about for years when i covered donald trump, from voters now that i'm covering democrats. they're all pretty skeptical when candidates come in with lofty plans and ideas. they've heard it all before. they would like to see someone who can get something done but they do give a side hi by the
lofty ideals. and she was here with saying, i have a plan to do it and i have a machine to pay for it. >> as always, thank you very much. we'll be following the contenders on the road. it will be on msnbc on june 26 and 27. let's go to west point where the press conference is about to begin. >> chief kyle. k-y-l-e. innella. the fire chief of west point. he's going to provide, general williams will provide an opening statement and then we'll have four or five questions from there. that's all the information we can put out will be from here. the next step will be 24 hours later. we'll release the name.
lieutenant general darrell williams. we have lieutenant colonel br n brian, brett venable, keller hospital commander. then we have the new york state troop commander. p.b. gallagher. is that right? did i get it? >> it has not started. what we have here is an official talking to the reporters assembled about who will be providing information. these press conferences, you've seen so many of them. various officials. as we've heard from the fire department. so that's what's happening west don't have the beginning of the press conference. we have information, spelling, obviously this is a military
operation. they're very, very particular about that sort of thing. it is a vehicle i believe, it is hard to make out. it is a vehicle that is on its roof. that was a vehicle inside. we know one cadet perished. one died and 20 others injured. ron allen is with me. he's been covering this as we wait for this press conference. what else do we know? that is an unusual picture of for people not familiar with west point or military training, it is hard to make out what we think went wrong. >> in the chatter, we hear that one cadet lost his life. or her life. we don't know. the new york state police are
involved. this appears to have happened on or close to a state highway. i'm not quite sure of the logistics. i would say they are separated from the base. so perhaps this happened off base or in close proximity. we know that there are as many as two dozen troops. cadets and soldiers who are in what appears to be a transport vehicle. a big cab where two or three persons can sit. in the back, a fairly open area like a big pickup truck. riding around in those things, there is no seatbelts, i wouldn't think. it is probably a pretty rough ride at times. i've ridden around in those things in different parts of the world. how many troops were back there? where were they going? we can see the officials are walking down the road who are about to begin press briefing. >> and the one piece of information we got is that these were two benches in the vehicle, in the pickup.
and the top was soft. >> they're long benches that parallel the sides of the truck. >> you will see troops being carried on the highway. they're in the movies that way when they're facing each other. >> right. so this seems to be they were doing something fairly routine ufrlt wouldn't be in something like that heading into combat. so again, there are indications this could be a traffic accident. a vehicle accident. it appears there is only one vehicle involved. we've not heard about a collision, a crash. the conditions of the road seem to be fine. it is a sunny, humid, hot day in the new york area. this happened around 6:45 in the morning. when this time of year there is someday light, the sun is up or rising for the most part. all of that is neither here nor there until we hear from the officials who can tell us what they know and exactly what they think happened.
>> let's listen in. these are officials from west point. >> good afternoon. today was a tragic day for the west point community and our united states army. early this morning, a troop vehicle carrying 20 cadets operated by two soldiers was traveling to a land navigation training site when it was involved in a rollover accident. the cadets were involved in a standard training exercise that occurs as a part of their military training program here at west point. one cadet is confirmed deceased as of 10:58 a.m. the other injured personnel received care at keller army community hospital. and various other regional medical facilities. their injuries are not life threatening. our thoughts and prayers are
with the families of the deceased and our injured. i would like to commend the exceptional efforts and professionalism of the first responders and medical personnel, and thank our great new york state police and our mutual aid partners. we are working actively to notify next of kin and will provide more information when the notification is complete. we'll take a few questions. >> who was driving the vehicle? >> army soldiers. >> it was a soldier. >> yes. army soldiers. >> what is the nature of the injuries? >> the nature of all the injuries? >> the death and if you can give us -- >> i can give you, i'll let the hospital commander give you some sense of the minor injuries. we're not prepared to go into the injuries surrounding the
deceased. >> the hospital commander. so the injuries range from facial abrasion to a broken arm. as the general mentioned, they are all nonlife threatening injuries. >> the cadet that passed away, where was he situated in the vehicle? >> i'm not prepared to talk about the deceased at this time. >> do you believe there were too many cadets in the back of the vehicle? >> i'm not prepared to answer those questions. >> any more tech nick tal details on how it happened. >> we'll know more when we investigate this. we're investigating it now. the investigation will continue west don't know the details of how the accident actually happened. i'm not prepared to say that. >> what was the make-up of the cadets? what year are they? >> they are cadet that's are seniors. cadet seniors. we call firsties. rising seniors. which is a of 2020. >> describe the vehicle they
were in and the training exercise. >> our seniors, as you know, we train very heavily here at west point. the training they do is part of the normal senior training. they've been doing this for some time now. they were headed to the land navigation training when they were in the back of the truck. they were being transferred to the training site. >> right here, i'll go to you. >> how far were they? >> not that far. not that far at all. it wasn't like it was ten kilometers away. they were close. in the training area. >> is it common for them to turn over? is this a freak thing? >> it is not common for these vehicles to turn over. it is very rough terrain. you can see the hills we have. we want to make sure that our soldiers and cadets train in a realistic training environment so this is part of the realistic training. this vehicle was just, it was transferring, yes.
>> can you describe the terrain that the vehicle was traveling on? you can see by looking around. it is very hilly. they were in a hilly, mountainous terrain. >> was on it an incline? >> i think i should wait for the investigation. >> where was the victim seated? is it true this vehicle is only men for 12 passengers? >> i'm not prepared to address that. >> this is the united states army. we're strong here at west point. the community has come together very nicely, as i talked about the medical support and all the great professionals we have here along with our partners. we responded extremely quickly. i came out early this morning when i found out. and our great partners in new york were here already. thank you very much. >> social media -- >> okay. that was a very brief press
conference by officials at west point in which we got a if you more details. what we did not get is an answer to what actually happened, what caused it to happen. ron allen has been watching with me. we got a few extra things in there. we found out what year they were and we got confirmation one has died. the others don't have life threatening injuries. >> we know they were being transferred to a training site. the general said that he was not concerned that there were too many troops in the vehicle. you heard that question suggesting the capacity was 12 of i don't know whether that's true or not. he pointed out this was a very hilly, mountainous terrain. and this was, west point is an area where there is intense training. it is meant to be real. these are young men and women potentially going off to war. this is a very serious environment. one deceased.
a single vehicle involve. it is a commonly used vehicle by the military to get troops from one place to the other. it sounds like a tragedy that is a reminder again of how serious the military takes all this in times of peace. certainly in times of war. a lot of remarks by public officials noting that this is happening while we're observing the anniversary of the d-day invasion. how we should be mindful again that there are always men and women on guard. protecting the country and doing things. >> and it is rigorous to train at west point and those places. we don't, we never expect things like this to happen and we will watch closely. we've got breaking news out of spokane, washington. the state supreme court just upheld a ruling against a florist who refused to provide
flowers for a gay wedding. i want to bring in justice correspondent pete williams. help us understand this ruling. how it got here and what it means. >> it is the second time the supreme court has reached this ruling on a florist from richland, washington. a company called arlene's flowers that had long served a gay client but then refused to serve the wedding. the woman who ran the florist said it would violate her views as a southern baptist and jeopardize her relations with christ. the state attorney general sued her and she lost in the state supreme court because the state has one of those laws that says that you cannot discriminate against customers. a human relations law, or a customer relations law. they said she did. she appealed to the supreme court and the supreme court vacated the ruling and sent it back. that was the year the supreme court ruled in favor of a baker in colorado who refused to bake a wedding cake for a same-sex
marriage celebration. with you the supreme court's ruling was very, very narrow. it said the baker in colorado did not get a proper hearing before the state board that made the decision. so it sent the case back to washington saying, take another look in light of our decision which had very little to do with the merits of the case. which is, do business that's provide services for weddings like florists or photographers, have a free expression right. the lawyers said they'll take it back to the u.s. supreme court. >> thank you very much. we'll continue to follow the developments. coming up next, republicans are worried that president trump imposing tariffs on mexico with good reason. we'll break down how those tariffs would hurt you and which states would be hit the hardest. wake up! there's a lot that needs to get done today. small things. big things. too hard to do alone things. day after day, you need to get it all done.
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on mexico. goods coming in from mexico, starting on wednesday, if a deal is not reached. there are negotiations going on this afternoon. we will keep you posted on this, but president trump's immigration-related tariffs on products from mexico will go into effect on monday. and if they do, let's look at u.s. trade with mexico and just what could get more expensive. the u.s. imported $345.6 billion worth of goods from mexico in 2018. this makes it our second largest supplier of goods. broken down by state, texas imports the most from mexico by far worth about $107 billion in 2018. michigan and california are next, taking in $56 billion and $44 billion worth of imports directly from mexico, respectively. and remember, this is in billions of dollars, so even though states with decimal points are taking in hundreds of millions of dollars worth of imports from mexico, but when we look at imports as a share of a state's gross domestic product, michigan comes out on top. 10.5% of its gdp comes in from
mexico. this is because of the high amount of automotive parts traveling between the two countries. texas is next, followed by rhode island, kentucky and arizona -- i'm sorry, rhode island, kentucky, and arizona. the most important items imported were vehicles, electrical machinery, machinery, medical and fuels, medical instruments, optical instruments. all told, these account for nearly three quarters of all imports from mexico. mexico was the united states' largest agricultural supplier in 2018. our biggest ag imports from mexico were in fresh vegetables, followed by fruits, wine and beer, snack foods, and processed fruits. all of this totaled $26 million worth of food in 2018. all right, i want to talk more about this. joining me now is nicole bevins, college and president of the international trade and government relations section of the firm saddler, travis, and rosenberg. nicole, good to see you. thank you for joining us. >> sure, thanks for having me
back. >> this morning, the vice president said mexico needs to step up to void these tariffs. i guess i'm trying to figure out whether punitive economic policies like this tend to work when discussing a purely political issue or a separate issue like immigration. >> well, i don't think we know the answer to that question, because we've never had this situation before, where, to me, it's sort of like oil and vinegar. you can put them in the same bottle and shake them as much as you want, but they're not going to mix. so i think we need to approach one and the other and find a joint way to address it, because this is a long-term problem. this is not something we can resolve in the next five days. >> let's talk about long-term effects. it's easy to sort of -- i gave some short-term effects, so people can understand their vegetables will be more expensive and cars will be more expensive, but long-term, our trade relationship with mexico is fairly integrated. what happened over five years or ten years if we end up having this sort of relationship with mexico. >> i think what's going to happen in the long-term is
you've got a situation where companies who are currently working on the border, they've been able to develop, you know, a robust business. and we're at a situation where it's the small guys, it's the medium guys who i think are going to take the most -- bear the brunt of this. because they're going to be able to, they're going to be impacted most immediately because they can't carry a 10% tariff. they trade on margins that are so narrow that this 5% or 10% will eat that up. they can't last for a very long time. what does that mean? maybe these businesses go under. so we could see almost a reversal of what we have seen over the last few years, the last decade, at least, where micro-businesses, two and three people who are able to get into business and be able to trade and find a good, reasonable source at good prices for the consumers, they're going to be gone, i'm afraid. >> nicole, thanks for joining me again. all right, a brand-new report finds the earth's carbon dioxide levels have jumped to the highest levels in recorded history. and like lie, the highest level
in the past three years. the three -- i'm sorry, the past 3 million years. a reminder, excessive buildup of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is not a good thing and is the force behind detrimental rising global temperatures. but the democratic national committee doesn't seem to think this serious issue warrants its own debate. 2020 presidential candidate washington governor jay inslee who has made climate change the central focus of his campaign says the dnc has opted against dedicating a presidential primary debate to the issue. in a statement to nbc, the dnc says, quote, while climate change is at the top of our list, the dnc will not be holding entire debates on a single issue, because we want to make sure voters have the ability to hear from candidates on dozens of issues of importance to american voters. joining me now is the founder and ceo of "our daily planet," monica medina. monica, a recently nbc/"wall street journal" poll suggests that climate change is the fourth most important topic for democratic voters.
i don't know how you deal with this in terms of debates, whether there should be debates on health care and debates on unemployment and debates on trade and climate. but how does the dnc send a signal that it is prioritizing this issue? >> well, i do think the heat is on the dnc right now, because it is a high-priority issue for many americans and democratic voters. and i think climate change ought to be debated every day. and i really thank you, ali, for bringing this issue up as often as you do and trying to dig into the bopolicy details. there are 12 democratic debates that are supposed to be happening between now and this time when the primaries get started. and it's not a big stretch for the dnc to say one of the later debates could be dedicated to climate change. and as you know, ali, climate change isn't a single issue. it's every issue. it's national security, it's our economy, it's our future, it's health, it's prosperity, it's everything. it's all there. so it's not as if the dnc would be focusing on something so
narrow that the candidates wouldn't get to talk about some other things that matter to them, too. >> there's a report this week from an australian policy paper that reveals that climate change could end human civilization by 2050. i've heard a lot of shocking revelations about it and i certainly don't want to diminish anything. is that a possibility? >> i -- i can't even begin to think that that's a possibility. and i think it's hard, because it is such a huge issue. it's not that it will end civilization, but we are in a crisis. this is an emergency. and so we don't have a lot of time. 2050 is sort of the outside boundary of when the worst of the impacts will really start to begin. and that's why people focus on that date. but we have to think about now. we have to think about the next five to ten years. and the candidates' plans all are talking about trillions of dollars of expenditures, public and private. it's going to take partnerships. how are they going to do it?
that's why this debate is so important, because the candidates do have different ideas about how will they tackle this enormous issue that is in front of us? and yes, by 2050, if we haven't changed, we are going to be in a world of hurt. >> monica, good to see you. thank you for joining me. monica medina is the founder and ceo of "our daily planet." james o'neill has just apologized at a pride security briefing for the events surrounding the stonewall riots 50 years ago. he says the actions taken by the nypd were wrong, plain and simple. the actions and the laws were discriminatory and oppressive and for that, i apologize. we will get you more on that as we get it. that's the end of the show for me. i want to hand it over to my colleague, kasie hunt, who picks up our coverage and i'll see you back here in an hour, kasie. >> ali, thank you very much. enjoy your one hour off and i'll see you very shortly. good afternoon. i am kasie hunt in for katy tur. it's 11:00 a.m. out west and
2:00 p.m. here in washington, where talks are resuming this hour at the white house on the president's threat to hit mexico with new tariffs. as we speak, top-level diplomats from mexico are making a last-ditch effort to reach a trade and immigration deal with the trump administration. after both sides ended yesterday's negotiations far away from reaching a compromise. if no deal is reached, president trump has threatened to levy 5% tariffs on all mexican goods starting on monday. according to the president, the taxes are punishment for what he sees as a lack of action on behalf of the mexican government. to stop central american migrants from reaching the u.s. border. that is in spite of significant rhetorical pushback from a number of senate republicans, who stand in opposition to the president's nationalist economic tendencies. to appease his conference, senator mitch mcconnell has asked the president to delay the tariffs until he returns to the united states,