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how you can help. how you can learn. how you can get the skills to know your value and communicate it effectively. that does it for us this morning. chris jansing picks up the coverage right now. mika, thank you so much. hello there. i am chris jansing in for stephanie ruhle. it is thursday, august 22nd. here's what's happening. after sowing distrust, confusion at home, president trump heads to europe in a few days where his snubs and flip-flops will meet head on with global consequences. and on issues far more pressing and consequential than greenland. the other g7 leaders have to be wondering what the heck the president has in store for their big summit this weekend. even as here at home there are new reports today that people who have worked in this white house are increasingly worried about the president's behavior. i want to go to the white house and peter alexander who had a front row seat for the president's conversations with the press yesterday, one of many over the past couple of days. peter, look. the prime minister of denmark is not the first foreign leader that president trump has
offended. but i'm wondering how much concern is there surrounding the white house? not just the insults but a white house that doesn't seem to have any reliable decision making. how much worry this is going to have real consequences for the president as he heads to g7? >> reporter: inside the west wing i think not much. president trump is basically the white house and what he says goes in spite of him following his impulsive instincts as we saw yesterday on the south lawn before he departed for kentucky. but as you speak to former officials who served in this west wing, reechltd west wing, i've heard repeatedly real concerns and reservations about the president's tweets and public comments the latest of which obviously refer to the back and forth with denmark. as he prepares to head to france for the g7 this weekend this sort of revs up his bash the allies season. you remember last year it was at the end of the g7 where the
president said of his canadian host justin trudeau the prime minister there that he was dishonest and weak attacking an ally before heading off to see kim jung un to have a conversation in that part of the world. the president refusing to sign the joint communique last year, notably we heard from president macron who will be this year's host and he has in effect said it would be pointless given the fact that there are obvious disagreements with the american president on key issues among them the paris climate accord, climate change obviously will be a top issue here. trade is going to be another flash point. certainly the differences as they relate to iran as well. chris? >> peter alexander, thank you for that. i want to get some insight into what is happening from eddie glaude, princeton university professor and david jolly republican congressman from florida in the past no longer affiliated with the republican party. look, it is easy to make jokes
about a lot of this stuff especially greenland. is this from the onion and you realize it isn't actually but when you have something like the g7 saying we're not going to issue a joint statement. this is coming from macron, our ally, what does this say? >> it teaches the world if you anger enough allies eventually you don't have allys. we know he has continually insulted other world leaders going back to when he first elected on a phone call with the pm of australia. go down the line with our western european allies. the story around greenland we all kind of laughed and questioned the president's stability but one of the foreign policy conversations that was heard around the world was when the president mentioned bringing russia back into what would be the g8. that has serious geo political consequences. >> and not having any sense it
was about crimea. >> exactly. what it says is the united states is not interested in standing up to the aggression of russia which on the world stage the suggestion is for any nation but particularly a nation state like russia. no you cannot march into another land and just take its sovereignty which is essentially what russia did. >> there was an editorial in the "new york times" and the headline was it asked whether, is this real life or a peter sellers movie? the last line was this. that the president of the united states would demonstrate such willful ignorance of how the world works, that he would treat a territory and its independent people like goods and chattel, that he would so readily damage relations with an old and important ally out of petty pique is frightening. he called the leader of one of our allies nasty. >> absolutely. we've seen this before. this isn't new. we're constantly shocked by his behavior but we know this is consistent with how he thinks and approaches things.
>> i think what has taken a lot of people aback with this is just not any individual thing like greenland but the sheer volume of things over the course of just 24 hours. he goes in front of the press, inside the oval office, then he tweets, i think he had a dozen or more tweets even before he went out on to the lawn, the south lawn, before he got in marine one. i mean, greenland, its 56,000 residents treated like a real estate deal. american jews, guns, the economy, the flip-flops. it is the volume. >> i think that's true. at some point you're overwhelmed by it all. i think we have to unpack it at every level. on the one hand, you're right. he is going alone. but we also, when we hear macron we need to know the other countries are doing what they need to do. in light of the geo political realities. and the u.s. is on the sidelines. so it's almost as if they're trying to contain the bull in
the china shop as they go about their business. and that should be alarming to people who are concerned about what's happening in the world. the u.s. is not leading. the u.s. is actually being cordoned off, contained by its so-called allies. that is the first thing. the second thing is donald trump has a vision of the world that is in some ways beholden to i think a kind of colonial model. that you can somehow purchase greenland which goes against his immigration policies. 80 plus percent of the greenland population are indigenous people. he doesn't want those folk in this country in the first place. but the model is of a world that the west can come and take and civilize, can take natural resources, irrespective of the people there. >> one of the things the prime minister said is thank goodness we don't live in that world anymore. >> exactly. one of my great concerns in the president's ignorance and inability on the world stage
when it comes to foreign policy, this is my true security concern. is that going into next year, you know, what likely could be donald trump's last year in the white house, that a foreign nation state takes the opportunity to act in a way that they would not act if there were a different u.s. president. what i mean by that could be an act of aggression. not to our shores but a russia/crimea situation, somewhere where a bad actor on the world stage knows they can take advantage of the president's ignorance or frankly manipulate a president of the united states that is so easily manipulated. that is my fear that we have a geo political moment because we have a president incapable of rising to a response. >> they also see a lack of focus, right? because he was all over the place. i think it's worth just giving viewers a sample of some of the things he had to say just yesterday. >> i am the chosen one. somebody had to do it. so i'm taking on china. you vote for a democrat, you're being very disloyal to jewish
people and you're being very disloyal to israel. only weak people would say anything other than that. president obama and others brought the families apart. but i'm the one that kept the families together. i thought that the prime minister's statement that it was absurd, it was an absurd idea, was nasty. you don't talk to the united states that way. at least under me. >> the "new york times" is reporting that a lot of former administration officials are getting increasingly worried. i mean, look. we've had sort of these periods before. he tweets a lot and he says a lot. but it does seem to be tied to his worries about the economy, about re-election. but if this is where he is, eddie, now, where is he going to be a year from now in the heat of a campaign? >> i have no idea. >> i mean, to david's point about the very real possible threat here. >> chris, darker days are ahead of us. we fleed to understand that. >> you really believe that.
>> i do. there is no bottom here. because of the increasing pressure on him, because he feels, you know, he is under siege. >> he is increasingly isolated. >> he is increasingly isolated. >> did you hear what peter said? he is the what housite house. >> right. he is not reading prep notes. folks aren't preparing him to go out and say something specific about something specific. this is all off the top of the head or out of his gut. and so i think we need to prepare ourselves for darker times ahead. >> i've made the case that nancy pelosi and house democrats should impeach the president over obstruction of justice in the mueller report. yesterday i thought i wish they would impeach him so they would distract him and give him something to focus on. the nation misses the days when he woke up and tweeted no obstruction, no -- 13 angry democrats. we see a highly volatile president right now who has demonstrated he has zero
ideological conviction. we've seen him move on guns from yes background checks to no. we often see politicians confront these ideological convictions that they have to compromise with political reality. that's not what is going on here. there is zero ideological conviction. there is just this waving political influence. >> we only have a minute left but i wonder if we're looking to other leaders to give us some sense of normalcy. i was thinking about that picture. remember the g7 last year with angela merkel kind of summing up the way the world leaders i think thought of him at the time. here we are a year later and we see what the prime minister of greenland did. i wonder if in some ways that sets the tone, sorry, of denmark, saying, you know, we have to oppose this president more forcefully. >> absolutely. what i said is, you know, macron saying there will not be a statement oust the g7 meeting doesn't mean the g6 haven't been
talking to each other, working with each other. >> they have. >> the u.s. is isolated. it's not simply america first. look, whenever a bully runs around trying to bully everyone, everyone suddenly comes to the realization they have to get rid of the bully on the block. and i think we're getting close to -- >> the world is laughing at us. let's be honest. the world is laughing at us under donald trump's leadership because he is more a showman than a statesman and the world knows that. >> there is no there there. >> you guys are coming back. thank you for this conversation, eddie, david. coming up another shakeup in the 2020 race with one more democratic hopeful calling it quits as democrats could be one step closer to taking back control of the senate thanks to former presidential candidate john hickenlooper. about 50% of people with severe asthma have too many cells called eosinophils in their lungs. eosinophils are a key cause of severe asthma.
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this morning we've got ourselves a new 2020 democratic field. one less candidate in the mix. governor jay inslee who put climate change at the center of his campaign telling rachel maddow last night he is ending his bid for president. >> it's become clear i'm not going to be carrying the ball, not going to be the president so i am withdrawing tonight from the race but i have to tell you, look. i've been fighting climate change for 25 years and i've never been so confident of the ability of america to move the ball. >> while his presidential bid is over sources tell nbc news he is absolutely not done with his
climate change fight just yet. we expect him to announce a run for a third term as governor. meantime, exactly one week after he left the race, former governor of colorado john hickenlooper has jumped into another one announcing he will challenge colorado republican senator cory gardner for a seat that would be crucial if democrats are going to retake this senate. ali vitale is in san francisco with all of these shake-ups in the 2020 field. what do we know about inslee's decision to leave and about his next move? >> reporter: hey, chris. so i think the next debate is really presenting a lot of the harsh political realities for these candidates. you look at jay inslee who did meet the 130,000 donor threshold but he said he wasn't going to get there on polling and qualify beyond debt bait stage so he dropped out clearly optimistic that climate change his signature issue will remain front and center in this democratic primary and really did manage to elevate the issue
and force frankly several of his democratic counterparts to put out plans and talk in detail about that key issue. i will say, he's jumping right into the next thing pretty quickly. two sources close to him told me last night that this morning we can expect an e-mail to supporters saying that he is going to run for a third term as governor of washington state so wasting no time on the next thing. >> and, also, you've covered hickenlooper on the trail. what do we expect from him as he enters a very different kind of race? >> he enters a different kind of race but he sort of jumps from one crowded democratic field to another because there are several democrats already mounting challenges to become the democratic nominee to face off against cory gardner in the colorado senate race. he is widely viewed as one of the most vulnerable republican senators in 2020. this is a race everyone is really watching. with hickenlooper the thing i think is going to change and i'm already seeing a little bit of a subtle change in how he talks about someone like mitch
mcconnell for example. today on his website he is calling him out for partisanship and obstruction but over the course of his time as a 2020 candidate it was kind of hard to get him to go at mcconnell as something of a partisan bogey man like many other democrats in the race did. so a subtle change and maybe something we'll see more of as we get further down the road in this colorado race. >> thanks so much. joining me to weigh in on all of this, politics reporter for nbc news who has been covering every step of this 2020 race, white house reporter for politico with that beautiful backdrop of the white house. look, hickenlooper's decision to jump into the colorado senate race, how crucial is this for democrats and what are his chances against cory gardner? >> reporter: well, he has a decent chance against cory gardner but as ali mentioned it is a fairly crowded democratic field. we have been hearing for a while though that hickenlooper was being urged by some of his democratic colleagues by sources close to him that he should exit the presidential field and make a run for senate.
republicans are worried about the colorado seat. as we've seen the trump campaign and people close to cory gardner just in the last week reveal they are paying close attention to this. the former south carolina governor was deployed to colorado just last week to host an event with cory gardner so they are sort of bringing out all of the surrogates, bringing out people who can help get the vote out, make sure cory gardner's seat is kept to where it's as least vulnerable as possible because that is one area of the snaenate where democrats are going to make a very big play. >> i think, jonathan, you can make the argument by both inslee and hickenlooper are less about the presidential race itself in that we knew there would be this winnowing, right, and they were both long shots from the start. it's more about the races they're going to run now. there are a lot of other democrats in washington anxiously waiting for inslee's decision. it seems to me he did what a
pragmatist does. he dropped out, moved on. no drama, right? >> you're right. the culling was inevitable and i think we'll see a significant amount more of it. the basic decision for most of these candidates is they stopped running when one of two things happens. one, the money dries up and they really can't get the plane in the air anymore or if there is something back home that calls to them in the case of governor inslee the governorship of his own state, the duties he has to tend to in re-election in the case of hickenlooper the opportunity to run for the senate. look, it's going to be more difficult for hickenlooper here. the argument that cory gardner is going to make against him is the same one his democratic primary rivals are going to make which is he couldn't decide what he wanted to run for. as far as the national scene goes him getting out will free up some donors. i know he was getting some pressure, from my sources, getting pressure from donors to get out. some folks who wanted to not be
disloyal to him but were ready to move on to other candidates. i think you'll see a little bit of a bump for some of the others who were maybe in similar lanes, probably michael bennett from colorado will benefit a little bit from him getting out and some of their shared supporters feeling more comfortable going with bennett. >> meantime, jonathan, speaking of donors and money you've got a piece about how some folks are spending it, an uptick of money going into iowa from a number of front-runners. tell us a little bit more about that. >> we're seeing the first ads of the cycle from front-runners or the group of people in the lead pack. you saw kamala harris go up last week with television ads. you saw joe biden with them within the last day or so in iowa for the first time. pete buttigieg is running a battery of radio ads and digital ads across the state. this is really the breaking of the dam of these candidates that are sort of in the front-runner group. buttigieg a little more of a bridge between the field in that
lead pack. but you're seeing them testing each other out a little bit, trying to test their own strengths, get a sense of what they'll be able to do in terms of getting a little more attention and voter traction and, also, with specifically harris and to biden they don't want to let elizabeth warren get any more of an advantage with the superior field operation she's gotten in iowa. when i talked to sources on the ground there they say she is so far ahead in that, that it doesn't make sense for any of the rest of the candidates to husband their money for much longer and not try to cut into it. >> so meantime, gabby, on the other side of the aisle, there's talk of another challenger among republicans, the controversial conservative radio show host and former illinois congressman joe walsh telling your colleagues at politico that if he is going to jump into the race it is going to happen soon. i know you've been out talking to voters who went for donald trump in 2016. is there any appetite for anybody else? what's going on here? >> reporter: yeah. a great question. if you go to any trump rally and
talk to voters out there, there seems to be a complete absence of appetite for a republican primary challenger against this president. and the polling backs that up. it is one of the reasons why you have seen a number of possible republican challengers bow out and decline to run against this president despite being recruited by both never trump individuals and even some independents who just want to have an alternative on the republican side. joe walsh is no exception to that. if you look at the polling for president donald trump among republicans, among evangelicals, among noncollege educated white men the people who make up his core base, he has skyrocketing approval ratings somewhere in between the high 80% and sometimes into the 90s. so it is difficult to see a path forward for somebody like joe walsh though i do think if he does jump in he'll find a donor base within sort of the never trump coalition and people who are just tired of the chaos of this administration.
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global outrage is building as the world watches the amazon rain forest burn in devastatingly spectacular fashion while brazil's president baselessly lays the blame on ngos saying nongovernmental organizations are burning it down to hurt his government. nasa satellite images captured this. unbelievable smoke from those fires plunging brazil's largest city into darkness and scientists warn of dire consequences of the amazon fires. the rain forest produces 20% of the world's oxygen and smoke from the fires creates massive amounts of air pollution. brazil's president isn't just a climate change skeptic. he campaigned on the idea that
economic development was being stifled because of unnecessary affection for the amazon. he has been a strong proponent of deforestation. the top trending topic on twitter yesterday was #pray for amazonus. in two new reports showing the real impact of the president's tax cuts including a new report from the bureau of labor statistics revealing that the u.s. added half a million fewer jobs in 2018 than t previously announced, the latest evidence that the president's tax cuts provided less of a jolt to the economy than once thought and the losses come a lot from the retail and hospitality workers including restaurant servers who "time" magazine describes as a major part of the millions of workers left behind from the past decade's economic boom. the impact of the deficit? well, it is growing faster than expected under the tax cuts. a new forecast predicts the
deficit will widen to a trillion dollars for the 2020 fiscal year. i'm joined now by the president of the committee for a responsible federal budget, ben goldberger executive editor at "time" magazine that has a new issue out today, the left behind economy produced in partnership with the fuller project a nonprofit newsroom that reports on issues impacting women. does any of this surprise you? >> unfortunately, it's not a surprise because so much of what's happening fiscally was entirely predictable. you can't have a massive, unpaid for tax cut where there were promises it was going to pay for itself but anybody who believed them was living in la la land, followed by two massive, unpaid for spending increases, and be surprised that the national debt is growing at a pace that is really unprecedented when the economy is this strong. and you layer that against this article in "time" magazine but this has real, profound effects on american workers particularly the most vulnerable and as we may be heading into a recession all of these problems, these
fiscal problems, economic problems, are going to become much, much worse. and with kind of a broken political environment where we can't seem to get anything done the hopes for fixing them and getting out ahead of the problems really has me incredibly concerned. >> still pointing to an over all healthy job market but as you point out, ben, service jobs are expected to grow in the coming years and, quote, waitresses are emblematic of the type of job expected to grow most in the american economy in the next decade. low wage service workers with no guaranteed hours or income. and the numbers tell the story. the average annual wage for example for personal care aides, a growth place. $24,000. food prep, wait staff about $21,000. and all of this as jobs that pay an awful lot more, manufacturing, are going away. is this what we're left with? >> in many ways, yes. i think one of the biggest
stories of the last recession was that manufacturing jobs plummeted. we lost a very substantial sum just under 2 million while the jobs that remained and in many cases have grown since are in food service which tend to be tipped wages or the sorts of jobs we associate with the gig economy in which you gain a degree of flexibility but trade a huge amount of prosperity in the process. in the case of america's waiters and waitresses the vast majority work in states in which there is a tipped minimum wage significantly below the federal minimum wage. the expectation is that the 10, 15, 20, 25 if the server is really lucky percent that a diner leaves on their bacon and eggs will make up the cumulative difference but in many cases it doesn't come close because right now the federal tip minimum wage is only $2.13 and it hasn't budged since 1991. >> the president likes to talk about how much better the economy is for women, how much better it is for blacks. but isn't that exactly who is getting these low paying jobs?
>> disproportionately. 70% of america's servers are women. some 40% of them are people of color. it absolutely is those who do not have the traditional benefits of class privilege. >> maya, the president was asked about the possibility of a recession yesterday and i just want to play for folks what he had to say. >> the fake news of which many of you are members, is trying to convince the public to have a recession. let's have a recession. the united states is doing phenomenally well. >> look, nobody wants a recession, let's just say that. nobody is angling for a recession. frankly, the president's approval numbers on the economy are stronger than in almost anything else. they may be his highest numbers. but what are the warning signs you see, maya? >> well, first off, part of the warning signs is actually that there's been good news for so long. we've had an expansion for a record amount of time and the business cycle isn't gone.
there isn't going to be an economic down turn. there are signs that is happening. everything from the inverted yield curve. but i think the biggest issue really is the massive amounts of uncertainty that now exist in our economy. and you layer that on top of these unsustainable debt levels which the cbo referenced yesterday in its big report that came out and we are very vulnerable. we are skating on thin ice. so any additional amounts of uncertainty or pessimism could put us in a recession. on top of the immediate risks of recession which i do think are likely to happen just because of the normal business cycle, you also have the fact that economic growth is going to be lower in this country going forward than it has been in the past because of the age k of the population. this is something we have known about. we failed to address. we have real challenges on a number of fronts from helping to grow the economy, also dealing with these important issues of mobility and income insecurity. we have an outdated social safety net unprepared to help deal with these headed toward insolvency. we have an unsustainable debt
level. if we don't address all of these issues we know are there a recession is going to be much more painful as are the longer prospects for economic growth. >> ben, one of the eye opening things about the "time" magazine cover story is exactly what you said which is about sort of the aging of america. if you're a waitress the chances of you having a fabulous retirement plan are very, very, very low and if you don't have enough money to live on while you're working how are you going to live at 70 or 75 if you want to retire? >> that is a really good question. the odds of you having a fabulous retirement plan are virtually nonexistent. there are some efforts to professionalize the industry but on the whole it has always been thought of in many ways as supplemental work, something people did part-time to help get through school. it wasn't perceived as a full-time career and as a result people don't have the benefits we associate with traditional white collar work. >> it is a great cover story. people should read it in "time"
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unique donors to qualify. so far ten candidates have reached the benchmark. and if even just one more candidate qualifies, well, a second night of debates will be added. joining me nbc's national political correspondent steve kornacki. so let's talk about the candidates who have not qualified. could we get to 11 or 12? >> it's crunch time. let's take you through what we're keeping an eye on as the august 28th deadline approaches. again, 22 candidates right now. take insley out for dropping out last night. 22 democrats who say they are running for president. as you mentioned, these are the ten who have qualified. they've hit the donor threshold and the poll threshold. no matter what when the next democratic debate takes place in september you will see these ten candidates on the stage. now, here is the suspense. here's what we're looking for over the next six days. it involves tulsi gabbard, tom steyer, and to a certain extent marianne williamson. each one of these three
candidates has hit the donor threshold. they have raised more than 130,000 individual donations so they qualify based on that but, remember, you also need four polls as you say at 2%. right now tom steyer has hit 2% in three polls. so is one poll away from making the debate. by august 28th there needs to be one more poll come out. steyer has to hit 2% in it. if he does he is in. there are 11 candidates. they go to a two-night debate. after that you got tulsi gabbard. she hit 2% in two polls. that means over the next six days, this is a tall order for her, she needs to hit 2% in two more polls. we don't know how many polls are going to come out over the next six days. may not be that many. not a lot of chances but gabbard would need two. marianne williamson would need four. she has hit the donor threshold. she has not hit the poll threshold at all. she would need a miracle to get there.
steyer, very possible. but over the next six days he hits that threshold and suddenly you've got 11 candidates and suddenly you've got two nights of debating again. >> let's talk about hickenlooper. a lot of people were waiting, yes, he is going to run. a lot of democrats have been pushing for that. how does this play into the big picture of democrats have this dream of retaking the senate? >> yes. hickenlooper, colorado, why colorado in particular, these are all the republican seats. republican held seats that are going to be up on the senate side next year. but there are two that stand out. two certainly that stand out for democrats. it is colorado and maine. why? this is cory gardner, susan collins, republican senator up for re-election in these states. these are the only two senate republicans who are going to be up in 2020 and who represent states that voted for hillary clinton. colorado and maine were clinton states in 2016. these are states that already didn't like donald trump so from a democratic standpoint that is the closest thing when you look at these maps, low hanging fruit
is the wrong term because these are going to be dog fights for democrats to win these. but they look on paper at maine and colorado and they say these are already states that didn't like donald trump and maybe in 2020 that presents one of the ripest opportunities, so to get somebody like hickenlooper into that race in colorado in a state where democrats already identified a potential, that is why democrats have been pushing. i think behind the scenes certainly have been encouraging hicken loop soer he strongly to make this move. >> so interesting. but you buried the lead. it's your birthday. big birthday. >> it is. >> we won't say what. 29 once again. happy birthday. >> thank you, chris. that's nice. >> thank you for coming in on your big day. >> nowhere else i'd rather be. >> okay. we'll work on that. coming up, another, this is not funny. another potential mass shooting plot that was stopped plus we'll talk to a mayor taking action in his city to combat gun violence when congress won't. it's time for the biggest sale of the year on the
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hundreds of rounds of ammunition. it's just the latest ka is this week after credible threats were disrupted in ohio, florida, and connecticut. meanwhile congress remains stalled on gun control legislation as the president once again muddies the waters on background checks. >> i don't want to take away people's second amendment rights. i don't want to take away the constitution having to do with gun ownership. you know, we can't let that slope go so easy that we're talking about background checks then all of a sudden we're talking about let's take everybody's gun away. people need weapons unfortunately for protection. >> that is an nra talking point. >> it's a trump talking point. >> joining me now democratic governor of south carolina back with me. david, i mean, we're talking about taking everybody's gun away, who is talking about that?
the flip-flops have actually been whip lash inducing on this issue. did he ever intend to do anything? >> no. i think the sad part for the country to get their head around is even what we're debating right now is such there's not a debate around comprehensive background checks. there's not a debate around an assault weapons ban magazine, clips and so forth. i think in september hopefully we'll see the house try to move that narrative in that direction. the president has clearly shown he's going to do whatever the nra wants and republicans are going to try to speak to mental health. it's not that people have mental health challenges or go in hate chatrooms or play violent video games. they have easy access to firearms in the united states. the nexus we have to crush is the access to firearms.
where the federal government won't step in, you see law enforcement having to step up -- kudos to law enforcement, chris, this week. i would say to my republican colleagues, if you like to think of yourself as pro law enforcement, law enforcement needs better tools, better laws so communities around the country can remain safer and law enforcement officers don't have to go into harm's way in mass shootings. >> when you talk to people in the white house now supposedly what they are looking at is a proposal to improve earlier identification of people who may have mental health issues. >> we can't take these folks seriously. they aren't serious in the issue. we heard donald trump category out of el paso talking about background checks, wanting to make some movement, then he back tracks. what we do know is this. he received a call from lapierre. he walked it back. what we do know is this, this issue won't change unless every day americans organize, continue to push the issue. those parkland students and
those folks who experienced brutality and horror of gun violen violence, they need to organize. we can't rely on these folks. >> your city council passed two gun safety ordinances this week and clearly congress does not seem poised to do anything. to eddie's point, what can every day people do? what can people who don't live in your city do? how did you accomplish what you did. >> mayor's league, closest to the people, see citizens every day, grocery, traffic light i get input from citizens. they expect action from us. you can't ignore the facts. lay some foundation. first of all, i'm not a emme can mayor, i'm elected independently, although i am a democrat. i do want to make that clear.
i am a strong supporter of the second amendment. i'm the former chief of state second law enforcement agency, strong supporter of our police department and have uniform support from our chief of police and our sheriff of all the issues we've been advancing here locally in the absence of federal leadership and absence of state leadership or these incredible preemption laws that try to stop us from doing our primary job, our primary job as elected officials is keeping our citizens safe. we became the first city in the country after las vegas to ban bump stocks. since then we've moved forward to ban ghost guns, incentivize citizens to report lost and stolen guns. just this week, gave first reading to three new ordinances. one hate and intimidation ordinance. one of the few that doesn't have a hate crimes law. second, implementing gun-free school zone act, prevents guns,
recognition of state and local law, no guns within 1,000 feet of a school. red flag, moving extreme risk protection orders. giving family members and law enforcement officers a process that helps people relinquish their firearms for a period of time when it's clear they may not have mental health issues but a period of crisis and a potential event likely see this week you just talked about miss jansing. we've got to make sure we're moving forward in the wake of overwhelming evidence, 250 mass shootings this year. we're in the midst of an epidemic. to ignore this epidemic is in the interest of political expediency is not bravery, bravado, i believe it's cowardice. >> is it now, guys, incumbent on mayors like this, state legislatures in some cases? in the washington, an analysis
of gun violence, quote, interest in addressing the problem tapers out after about three weeks. that's this week when we're talking about el paso and dayton. so republicans have learned, the nra has learned they can run out the clock. >> chris jansi, you're right. it's a tool of the republicans to run out the clock. we have to be honest whether or not any of our political leaders are creating urgency around wha. i'm careful how i say this because democrats do so much more than republicans. congress is in the midst of a seven-week vacation. it's been almost three weeks since the shootings. congress has two more weeks where they are not in washington. it's incumbent on political leaders like mayor benjamin to express urgency in these moments. leaders set the national narrative. donald trump wants us to be talking about greenland and the economy when what we should be talking about is the north
dakota -- the fact 30 people killed. hit on preemption, not go too far down the line. state legislature can do good or bad in this situation. one of the bad things state legislatures do, they restrict the ability of communities like mayor benjamin to act on this. we have to look at that. >> thank you and thank you, mayor, for leading. we'll be right back. and thank mayor, for leading we'll be right back. the business of atlanta on monday... ... cincinnati on tuesday. ...philly on wednesday. ...and thursday back to cincinnati . modernized comfort inns and suites have been refreshed because when your business keeps going, our business is you. get the lowest price guaranteed on all choice hotels when you book direct at choicehotels.com. and now for their service to the community,
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that's going to wrap up this hour. i'm chris jansing in for stephanie ruhle. hallie jackson. >> hey, how are you. we start with california democrats, california dreamin'. almost all of them out west today right now making their play for the early voting state and making their pitch for the party they hope to leave. bernie sanders is there rolling out a big plank of his campaign and investing big in the state as he comes for kamala harris's home turf. she's already scored key endorsement there. notably not going, front-runner joe biden. he's heading to new hampshire instead. you know who else isn't going to be there, governor jay inslee after announcing on this network he's getting out of the race for president. we have brand-new reporting on what he plans to run for instead. >> it's clear i'm not going to be carrying the ball, not going to be president so i'm with drawing now from the race. >> our team of reporters and analysts have it covered every