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>> i'd like to talk about who we're running against. a billionaire that calls women fat broads and horse-faced lesbians. i'm not talking about donald trump. i'm talking about michael bloomberg. >> the leading candidate has three houses. >> mayor buttigieg has a slogan thought up by his consultants. it's not a plan, it's a power point. and amy's plan is even less. it's like a post-it note. >> ali vitali following the warren campaign, shaquille brewster is with the sanders campaign and josh, i'll start with you. going into this first debate, it was clear michael bloomberg
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would be a prime target. the headlines have not been kind. here are just a few, calling his performance rocky. says that he walked into a buzz saw. one even said "titanic meet iceberg." how is the bloomberg campaign looking to turn the page after last night? how are they spinning his debate performance? >> reporter: yeah, they're doing what campaigns do after a bad night, craig, which is try to find a silver lining, some positive out of this. the bloomberg campaign has been arguing he's the only one that really got a hit in on bernie sanders last night when he talked about sanders having several houses. they've also been trying to make the case that the fact that bloomberg was at the center of all of these attacks from his rivals is an indication of the fact that he is a serious candidate that everyone else is afraid of and a sign of his fortitude in the race. there's no doubt the bloomberg
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campaign knows this was not the performance that they wanted him to give last night. take a listen to what the campaign manager, kevin sheekey, told msnbc just a little bit ago. >> i think mike's got to get his legs under him. he had a better second half of the debate than the first, i will admit that. this is his first debate since he ran in his last election in 2009. >> reporter: so, craig, that's what you call lowering expectations after the fact. but the bloomberg campaign as he teld an event here in salt lake city is also trying to create the impression they still have momentum coming out of this, rolling out several members of congress to have endorsed the former new york mayor as of this morning. >> ali, we've seen how strong performances can produce a boost in money, momentum as well. elizabeth warren's campaign saying that so far since she took the debate stage last night, she's raised almost $3
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million. how good is the warren campaign feeling this morning? >> reporter: well, look, their goal on the debate stage last night was to not be able to be ignored and certainly elizabeth warren is the one that all of us are talking about today because of the way that she went after and was able to draw contrast with, yes, michael bloomberg but i think that she went after every other person on the debate stage. you played the bulk of the clips, the fiery moments of last night and elizabeth warren was involved in almost all of them. that was many game plan, to draw the contrast. there was a strategy here. bernie sanders was the front-runner, everyone was looking at michael bloomberg but bernie sanders was the front-runner. when i caught up with elizabeth warren after she got off the debate stage, i asked her about that strategy. she says it's one that she stick by. she wanted to go after bloomberg, not sanders listen why. >> he completely circumvented the democratic process and said,
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hey, i'm just rich enough to make this happen. it's a real risk for our party and risk for our country. >> reporter: elizabeth warren has been warning about the risks of michael bloomberg on the campaign trail. i think the thing that we've seen the most shift from in elizabeth warren is, yes, her willingness to draw contrast but at the foundation, elizabeth warren's unity pitch was about coalition building. she wants to be the bridge between the so-called progressive lane and moderate lane of the party. even just look as she was standing on stage last night she was between michael bloomberg, moderate and bernie sanders, the progressive. standing in the middle of them, throwing barbs to both sides and across the stage, showing that she wants to be someone who can build a coalition and as people drop out bring their supporters into the elizabeth warren tent. that has long been the pitch
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frommer had. no longer is it unity but it's everyone come in and be an elizabeth warren democrat. a few debates ago she went after john delaney. even he tweeted he how debate d with so many her policy initiatives. >> shaq, i would imagine that the sanders campaign also feels pretty good this morning as we head into saturday's caucus. >> reporter: you are right. the senator feels really good about what happened last night. he also raised a lot of money, he had $2.7 million raised a little less than elizabeth warren raised but still 150,000 contributions that they got. sanders came into last night's debate feeling the momentum and the wind behind hit back. nothing that he saw last night or faced last night really changed that. he did receive more scrutiny
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than you've seen senator sanders receive on past debate stages. he had to defend his democratic socialism in a way he hasn't had to in the past and explain why he hasn't released his medical record, for example, and go and spra explain and deflect from the online supporters, the so-called bernie bros. so he did receive scrutiny but the campaign likes the fight, they like he was engaging in that. when you look at where sanders is going from here, he's going to california tomorrow, multiple stops in california. he'll be back in vegas for a rally but then straight to texas. he's making clear he is ready to nationalize his message. he has the money and resources to do so. he feels like with the debate performance last night and how he expects to do in thecuses ths he has the strength and nothing
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can stop that. >> a big thanks to all of you. let's bring in michael star hopkins, a democratic strategist and lawrence leader is also with me, the ceo of all in together, an organization that empowers voting aged women to engage in political life. she was also a diversity consultant at michael bloomberg's company from 2010 to 2013. lauren, let me start with you and your expertise as a consultant there. elizabeth warren pretty much went after everyone but really focused on michael bloomberg and this is one of the big moments last night, talking about the nondisclosures. >> i have no tolerance that the kind of behavior that the me too movement has exposed. >> he has gotten some number of women, dozens, who knows, to
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sign nondisclosure agreements both for sexual harassment and for gender dischrrimination in e workplace. so mr. mayor, are you willing to release all of those women from those nondisclosure agreements so we can hear their side of the story? >> we have a very few nondisclosure agreements. >> how many is that? >> let me finish no. none of them have accused me of not liking a joke i told. >> it was as if he was unprepared for the question. >> he was unprepared for the question. he was called so flat footed in any conversation about diversity. in fairness he did make the point that bloomberg lp is a
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company, is considered a best place to work, he has had a group of very accomplished, highly respected women around him, patty harris, beth mazzeo, many others, but that doesn't take away from the fact that the account at bloomberg lp until he left to be mayor was behind the rest of big business in new york in terms of their commitment to diversity. the sense was that he, you know, really didn't see it as the highest priority issue for the company, but when he left, in fairness, there was a huge effort that was undertaken and the company has made enormous strides and there are lots of women in senior positions but what he missed was an opportunity to reclaim the narrative and paint himself -- he's facing this barrage of accusations online that he's sexist and racist and that's taking off without him. you cannot reset those on the television commercial. he had to come in and speak
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honestly, sincerely and forth rightly about what he's learned and they've made mistakes. i think he should have been prepared -- better prepared on the nda question, a growing question in corporate america. there are not a lot of companies that have banned forced arbitrations or released people from ndas. it's wells fargo and microsoft that have committed to tnot to them anymore. he should have been prepared and it just was devastating last night. >> so that's one missed opportunity. michael, another missed opportunity, in my opinion, and this i would contend was the largest missed opportunity of the evening, bloomberg has spent tens of millions of dollars on every town for gun safety, stood on stage wednesday not far from where you're stand being right now, the site of the deadliest mass shooting attack in modern
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u.s. history, he did not even mention his work. how could michael bloomberg not talk about gun safety? >> it was really puzzling. i think bloomberg had a deer in the headlight moment on the stage. but it seemed like he was unprepared, which is surprising the bloomberg camp really tried to lower expectations throughout the night, but i think even they couldn't lower them enough to bible to call this a win for bloomberg. it's going to be interesting to see how he rebounds on this. but for someone who has invested in climate change, putting so much money into the 2018 election for democrats, he didn't really talk about any of that. i guess we'll have to wait until the next debate to see why. >> lauren, most voters have heard from michael bloomberg through his ads, on tv, radio, on. do we really think last night is going to have a measurable impact on his campaign? or do ewoo think voters are
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still going to get to know michael bloomberg through those ads? >> i think there is a sort of hunger in the party for sure. for somebody that people view as electable in that more centrist lane. he's been viewed as this potential white night nor a long time and he has the money and resources to define himself through those commercials but last night was a heavy blow. he has also been a huge advocate on reproductive rights. he's got lots of, you know, accomplishments in terms of his advocacy for women, but he's totally lost his narrative and he's going to have to take it back in a way -- i think people want to see something that is authentic and personal, not just glossy and on television in commercials i think he's going to have to figure out how to take this back or it could be a very serious fatal blow. the party is not where it was even a couple years ago.
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yes, we need -- democrats are going to need the centrists, need the folks that can win in the middle, which is the case amy klobuchar has been making and buttigieg has been making but it also needs young, progressive, diverse voters who have a very high bar for the candidates. i think he's going to have a hard time clearing that. >> i want to play bloomberg's message to voters last night that could give some vats pause. >> i can't think of a ways that would make it easier for donald trump to get re-elected than listening to this conversation. this is ridiculous. >> you write in politico the winner of wednesday night's debate was the republican party. explain for us, michael. >> when elizabeth warren went nuclear on the field, it starts to write the ads for republicans in the general. if democrats aren't careful, they are going to miss out on the opportunity to draw distinctions without going
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personal. that's something that really happened. when we head into the general, republicans are going to cut up all of these debate clips and use them against democrats. democrats have to be careful being thoughtful with each other. that's the problem elizabeth warren will deal with when it comes time for her to go into the next debate. >> by the way, that debate just five days away in charleston, south carolina. after the debate, there's still one big question to answer, though, can anyone in the race unite the different factions of the democratic party? i'll ask two experts who have firsthand experience running against this specific field of candidates. first, though, right now roger stone inside that federal courthouse where he is about to learn how long he might spend in prison. we'll go live to the courthouse where the judge is about to sentence him any moment now after a week of drama surrounding his case. i switched to miralax for my constipation.
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right now president trump's long-time associate roger stone is in a federal courtroom where he is about to be sentenced. we're getting our first notes out of that courtroom. so far the judge in the case and stone's lawyers have talked about threats that stone made to one of his associates. a judge found stone guilty november of lying to congress and witness tampering. the sentencing culminates a week of intense scrutiny surrounding the case stemming from attorney general bill barr's admitted interference in the process and since then the four prosecutors who tried stone have either resigned from the case or quit the d.o.j. altogether in protest. ken dilanian remains outside the kou courthouse. and also with me is harry littman. ken, bring us up to speed here.
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what else has been going on inside that courtroom? >> reporter: craig, this has been a hearing jam packed with fascinating developments. first of all, a lot of focus on those duelling sentencing recommendations from the justice department. the first one you'll recall called for seven to nine years and argued for enhancements to the federal guidelines, things they said stone did that was worse than what he was convicted of, including threatening violence and obstructing the proceeding. he posted on social media a picture of the judge with what looked like the cross hairs. they argued he deserved more prison time for at that. then william barr intervenes and the justice department pulled back. but the prosecution is arguing with those -- for those again
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and the judge is agreeing with them. the judge is also grilling this prosecutor about why the original prosecutors in the case aren't here to argue, why they didn't file the second memo. he has declined to answer who wrote that second sentencing memo that he told the judge that this justice department and u.s. attorney's office will follow the law without fear or favor. the judge appears to be fairly annoyed at this whole set of developments where the justice department recommended one thing and then pulled back on another. against the back drop of all this, donald trump is tweeting again about this case, even after the attorney general said these kind of tweets makes it impossible for him to do his job. trump tweeted "they stay roger stone lied to congress but so did comey and so did crooked hillary clinton. the person who said roger stone lied to congress were a jury of his peers who convicted him of seven counts of those crimes and now he's being sentenced in that
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across behind me. >> this is judge amy berman jackson that we're talking about. mr. littman, this is how "the new york times" sums up today, "the sentencing is playing out against an extraordinary backdrop of upheal at the justice department and a virtual standoff between the president and attorney general william barr." how closely is this roger stone case being watched within the rank and file of the d.o.j., harry? >> extremely and as ken upheava. what we've had today is really extraordinary. after that whole countermand by barr, they've gone in and countermanned the countermand. they pulled the rug out from under the second position and craig is the person who signed
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the second memo. he is on the hot seat and trying not to answer anything. stone's lawyers are trying to say ignore everything. she has basically gone the way of the vernment, that is the first way of the government. she is trending toward a longer sentence, a guideline range of six to eight years, rather than seven to nine. now having found that and that's what the fight was about, resolving it mainly for government, she now has the discretion and we'll see if she exercises it to go down because, as ken says, he's 67 and other factors. but to date she's called balls and strikes largely for government one, that is the first position that they recanted and then reinstated. >> this is the same judge that handed down the paul manafort sentence, correct, harry? >> that's right. and she's shown herself to be tough when needed and to really be -- to push back against the
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nonsense going on around her, in manafort and here. >> we just saw that tweet from president trump. he's been talking about the stone case as well a fair amount. this is what he said on tuesday. >> reporter: are you planning to pardon roger stone? >> i haven't given it any thought. he's going through a process but i think he's been treated very unfairly. >> reporter: do you think roger stone deserves any prison time? >> we'll see what happens money. >> no one is exactly sure what the president means. what do we know about the impact that the president's comments could have on prosecutors and investigators? are these things that they pay attention to or are these things we just report on? >> they really try not to and of course they ignored it and then the attorney general came in and made a -- enforced a reversal that was in keeping with those
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comments. now, he said himself it wasn't based on them but that was why he was behind the 8 ball because you couldn't tell one or another. it was the department's solid job to ignore them, about you when trump is screaming through his megaphone and repeatedly, even if you can ignore them, the justice system itself looks like it's being influenced from on high in the worst possible way and the d.o.j. has two black eyes now, one from trump and one from barr's decision and you can see it now that in court today they're actually trying madly to back pedal. it's a very embarrassing, continuing to be embarrassing episode, even this morning for the department. >> we'll let you get back inside the courthouse there. do keep us posts, please. thank you both. we asked two big questions on this broadcast ahead of last
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two of the moderates with a lot of stake in the upcoming contest, joe biden and buttigieg hoping for a boost from their debate performance. hours before the candidates took to the stage, we posed some big questions on this show from our nbc news political team. these are the questions to watch -- one, two former vice president joe biden and senator elizabeth warren recover after faltering in new hampshire and iowa? another was about mayor pete buttigieg and senator amy klobuchar. could the two surging but
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competing moderates widen their base? let's get right to our road warriors. mike memoli and vaughn hillyard in vegas. mike, we've already talked about elizabeth warren. how about the biden camp? do they think they did enough to recover from his mediocre performances in iowa and new hampshire? >> reporter: yeah, craig. certainly of the nine debates we've seen so far if you're judging joe biden against his own previous performances, we know the campaign is feeling pretty good about it. one indication of that, we saw joe biden do something he hasn't done before and that is didn't quite go to the spin room but he did do an interview with brian williams and nicolle wallace immediately after the debate, an indication he wanted to follow up on a good performance. what's interesting is if joe biden is going to recover from stumbling out of the gate here in the first two contests, there's a little bit of a gauntlet ahead. step one was a good debate performance and just as
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important was mayor bloomberg's weaker performance. there's a sense of his weakness right now. and next up is the strong performance in the iowa caulk uses itself. we saw joe biden tried to bring up the gun issue against bernie sanders. we see the biden team launching a new video today raising bernie sanders's comments about whether gun companies should be liable when their weapons are used in episodes of mass carnage. joe biden adding a public event to his schedule today to talk about the issue of gun violence. that's where his focus is now as he aims to recover and have a top-twoshotti top-two showing and setting up for his campaigning in south carolina. >> mr. hillyard, pete buttigieg
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needed to set himself apart from amy klobuchar to widen his base. does the campaign think that he got the job done last night? >> reporter: if i could real fast, craig, to kind of put it in perspective where memoli and i were right now, we were talking down the strip to come to this live shot and you see the trump tower beaming up over the entire strip and donald trump here overnight in las vegas himself and that's the part where the democrats after more than a year of campaigning against once another are having a hard time as centering up drl as the one they're going at and michael bloomberg adds an extra layer to that. pete buttigieg hoped this would be a race against him and michael bloomberg. and coming in in near third
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place in new hampshire, pete buttigieg wanted to be the counter to bernie sanders at this point and he even said on that stage last night, look, we could get to march 4th, the day after super tuesday and this could be a two-man race being bloomberg and bernie sanders, and that is why he is pushing and hoping that he is able to create distance from not only elizabeth warren and joe biden but really amy klobuchar. take a listen to part of the exchange between the senator from minnesota and former mayor from indiana last night. >> if you're going to run based on your record of voting in washington, then you have to own those votes, especially when it comes to immigration. you voted to confirm the head of customs and border protection under trump, who is one of the architects of the family separation policy. you voted to make english the national language. do you know the message that sends? >> i wish everyone was as perfect as you, pete. you've memorized a bunch of talking points and a bunch of things but i can tell you one thing, what the people of this country want, they want a leader that has the heart for the
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immigrant of this country and that is me. >> you saw pete buttigieg again last night try to set up that generational contrast, but amy klobuchar pushed back and saying experience means a heck of a lot saying she worked on immigration bills in congress back in 2007 and 2013. clearly there is a need for each of these candidates to create distance amongst one another to make the case heading to super tuesday that they're those countercandidates to michael bloomberg and bernie sanders. >> thank you. turning a debate moment into momentum and actual votes. i have two people who ran and helped run presidential campaigns this year standing by. we're going to talk about how these campaigns take advantage of a strong debate performance. in one week...
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nevada will have their say in this democratic primary, and for all the punches landed in last night's debate, it is unclear, what if any effect it will have on the outcome. but one thing was clear -- whoever wins will have to unites the party and last night showed just how tough that job may be. i'm joined now by two people who know this field of candidates better than most, the former campaign manager for cory booker and ian samms, the former press secretary for kamala harris. ian, as we highlighted earlier in the broadcast, the debate was a bit of a bar brawl, buttigieg versus klobuchar, bloomberg taking on sanders, warren and biden tag teaming on bloomberg. president trump, his name was barely mentioned. as uncomfortable as moments may have been, was last night healthy for your party? >> i absolutely think it was.
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i think we're well past time for this level of contrast among the cand right now that democratic voters have really been all over the place looking for answers, looking fo figure out how who to consolidate behind. we've been through eight debates that have been largely positive contests. as these things move and develop and bernie sanders is a pretty strong front-runner right now, michael bloomberg has come out of nowhere to establish himself, candidates are really starting to have to decide how am i going to set myself apart and what better way to do that than not just talking about why you're the best, which for some candidates haven't worked so far. i would question about what you said about trump and party unity. look back to 2008, this primary has been cupcakes compared to what barack obama and hillary clinton did in 2008 and 2007 and they are able to unite the party and bring everything back together and win that presidential contest just fine. you think we'll be able to do
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that as a party and i think that right now candidates are just coming up to the wire of contests in our fact and having to distinguish ourselves between them more sharply. i want to bring up a clip that was raised last night. >> we could wake up two weeks from today, the day after super tuesday and the only candidates left standing will be bernie sanders and michael bloomberg, the two most polarizing figures on this stage. we shouldn't have to choose between one candidate who wants to burn this party down and another candidate who wants to buy this party out. >> he ran as someone who can unite. that was one of his chief arguments. is there any one in this field well suited to unify the party like cory booker come november? >> well, at first senator booker wouldn't have run if he had thought one of them would be
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better than he. one of these candidates is going to be our nominee and they'll be able to unite as well as we keep it civil and make sure our debates are about sub sans and not personal attacks. mayor buttigieg is right, though, we are definitely headed towards a two-person race between sanders and bloomberg iffing is doesn't change over the next ten days or so. had is choosing time for democrats and we've seen in iowa and new hampshire, i think we'll see in nevada and south carolina as well that people are going to be making their dee signatureci. i any the debate was good for senator warren and a couple other candidates but we've got a long way to go between now and july. >> the sentiment that mayor pete shared that bloomberg and sanders are the most polarizing
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candidates in the race. do you agree with that sentiment? >> no, i think all of the candidates are electable. but who is the best candidate to take on donald trump and who is the best candidate to unite the party? can bernie sanders do that? can michael bloomberg who hasn't been interacting with voters -- >> who is the best candidate left? >> i'm out of the race right now. i'm an undecided voter just like everybody else out here in california. my ballot is sitting on my ballot for march 3rd, i was watching last night trying to make my decision. >> are you undecided? >> i swear to god, still undecided. oo i don't think i'm a unique case here. we're trying to figure out who going to be the best candidate to take on trump, who can carry on our democratic values. everybody is still on the table as far as i'm concerned. we'll see in nevada, in south carolina, the cream rise to the top and i think super tuesday might end up being decisive in who is going to be our nominee.
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>> ian, as addisu mentioned, 14 more states will go to the polls for super tuesday. between now and then michael bloomberg will likely spend tens of millions of dollars more on ads, candidates will swarm these town halls. will anything that we saw and heard last night on that debate stage, will it ultimately matter? >> frankly, i think the biggest things that will matter and that will outlast and outlive that debate and the news cycle around it was the answer when chuck todd of able to get all the candidates besides bernie to essentially say we may stick in this until the convention, as long as we're raising money and earning delegates and contests, we're going to keep pressing forward. i think all these candidates are realizing that no one may come out of this things with a majority of the pledged delegates to win the nomination outright going into the convention. i thought because there's
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proportionality in delegates and we'll see hundreds and hundreds of delegates al kated and split up. we could be in for a very long and drawn-out contest, which was what was interesting last night with all the fire aimed at michael bloomberg, he's still averaging second or third place in this contest. bernie sanders is the front-runner and he didn't take that much heat with the exception of potentially from bloomberg and mayor buttigieg. >> it's a fair point. and bloomberg is not even on the ballot in south carolina. >> right. >> good luck making up your mind before super tuesday. we continue to follow breaking news here. right now roger stone inside that federal courthouse in washington. he is finding out as we speak just how long he will likely spend in prison. the judge applied several sentencing enhancements.
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at this point we still do not have the exact sentence. we've got folks there inside the courthouse, relaying information. we'll begin you updates as we get they will. president trump just made a controversial choice to lead the nation's intelligence community. our next guest called it an attempt to use intelligence as a political weapon. that's just ahead.
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president trump's decision to name a political appointee to head the nation's intelligence apparatus is raising more alarm this morning. he has tapped richard grenell, the current u.s. ambassador to germany to be the next acting director of national intelligence. grenell has served as spoxman for the u.s. ambassador to the united nations. he was also a national security and foreign affairs spokesman for mitt romney's presidential campaign. he has zero experience in the intelligence community. i want to bring in the former assistant director for counterintelligence at the fbi. he's also an msnbc national security analyst and former communications adviser to house speaker paul ryan. thanks to both of you. frank, i'll start with you because i saw your response to the appointment in a tweet last
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night and you say simply, intelligence as a political weapon, as someone who led the fbi's counterintelligence operations, frank, why are you so troubled by this particular appointment? >> for two reasons, craig, first, ambassador grenell is no more qualified to be the dni than he is to be the surgeon general. he's not served in the intelligence community. that's number one. number two is he's pure politics. if you study his background, he's been an aggressive advocate for president trump's agenda aboard and at home. he's served as a fox news commentator. when you put those two things together, lack of experience, you're left with a conclusion that this is about silencing the intelligence community. the dni's role is to decide what gets brief today the president and what the intelligence community collects and reports.
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and when you just remember a few months ago we dealt with a whistle-blower from inside the intelligence community who had to go to the dni inspector general and that dni had to make decisions about the truth and reporting, imagine now this political animal in charge of all the intelligence agencies making those kinds of decisions, deciding what the intel community can and can't report publicly and to the president, unpleasant news, perhaps never getting, to the white house. maybe we never hear that iran has stopped producing a nuclear program. maybe we never hear that north korea is rapidly producing nuclear weapons. the truth gets shifted and used as a weapon. >> the white house statement this morning said grenell is committed to a nonpolitical, nonpartisan approach as head of the intelligence community on which our safety and security depend. that statement coming from the white house. can we trust that statement? >> i think they had to put out that statement because of the
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background that frank laid out. it's notable that this is an acting appointment. the president and probably senator mcconnell understand that he could never get confirmed. this is not someone that republicans in the senate would feel comfortable putting in this position and that is because they know that at least if there's one issue where republicans have maintained any type of consistency and willingness to push back it's been in national security, whether it's the syria policy or last time he tried to in a moment someone without any intelligence background, he had to withdraw it because he wasn't going to be confirmed. the problem that a lot of republicans won't say but they know is that donald trump likes to create his own world. he likes to have people tell him what he wants to hear. the dni doesn't run the cia, the nsa. but an important role is to report back to the president what they're hearing and if the president uses richard grenell in that position to forum shop and hear what he wants to hear, that's a bad and dangerous place to be. i think that's why they have to
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stress he's going to be nonpartisan, nonpolitical because there's a lot of concern about him and it's one reason he's never going to be a permanent dni. >> we're going to have to leave it there. big thanks to both of you. we continue to keep a close eye on the federal courthouse in washington. any moment now, the judge will be handing down her sentence in roger stone's trial. we just learned that the judge has added several sentencing enhancements which means that the time he's recommended to serve is now longer. we do not know the details of the sentence just yet. but, again, all eyes and our cameras trained on that federal courthouse in washington. more details as they become available. pbeat music ♪
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and that will do it for this hour of msnbc live. i will see you tomorrow morning on "today" but "andrea mitchell reports" starts right now, live, once again, from las vegas. >> and right now, live on a special edition of "andrea mitchell reports," live in las vegas, fight club, sharp jabs against michael bloomberg throughout the las vegas debate as elizabeth warren barely waits a new york minute before throwing the first punch. >> a billionaire who calls women fat broads and horse-faced lesbians. i'm not talking about donald trump. i'm talking about mayor
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bloomberg. are you willing to release all of those women from the nondisclosure agreements? >> they signed those agreements and we'll live with it. >> democrats take a risk if we substitute one billionaire for another. >> bloomberg in utah today trying to laugh it off. >> how was your night last night? [ laughter ] >> look, the real winner in the debate last night was donald trump. because i worry that we may very well be on the way to nominating somebody who cannot win in november. >> to the bitter end with bernie sanders now the solid front-runner heading into super tuesday and its big haul of delegates. sanders argues whoever is ahead by the convention should get the nomination even if he has not reached the required number, setting the stage for a convention brawl. >> i think that the will of the people should

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