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thank you for your time this morning as well. and that is going to do it for this hour of msnbc live. i'll see you tomorrow morning bright and early on today. "andrea mitchell reports" starts right now. >> and right now on "andrea mitchell reports," two-man race, and then there were none. elizabeth warren, the last leading woman contender is out leaving just joe biden and bernie sanders to slug it out for the democratic nomination. >> you're talking to a candidate uniquely who has taken on the entire corporate establishment. you're talking to a candidate who is taking on the political establishment. >> it's ridiculous. bernie, you got beaten by overwhelming support i have in the african-american community, bernie. you got beaten because of suburban women, bernie. >> the president pushing false and misleading information about the coronavirus, its death rate and what people should do if they are sick. >> so if, you know, we have
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thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better, just by sitting around and even going to work, some of them go to work, but they get better. >> sorry, mr. president, that is not what the doctors are saying. we'll fact-check the president just ahead. and crossing a line, the chief justice of the supreme court issuing a rare rebuke saying chuck schumer went too far by criticizing trump supreme court appointees for their anti-abortion rights decisions. >> i want to tell you gorsuch, kavanaugh, you have released the whirlwind and you will pay the price. >> there's nothing to call this except a threat. and there's absolutely no question to whom, to whom it was directed. ♪
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good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in washington and two days, two stunning developments shaking up the democratic primary race. today it is elizabeth warren following michael bloomberg out the door. the last major woman contender in the race. the end of a campaign that had raised critical questions on a host of issues. now the big question, which of the two top contenders will warren eventually endorse? front-runner joe biden, the more moderate on a host of policies, or bernie sanders, a fellow progressive, but not particularly close with warren personally behind the joining me now ali vitali, shaq brewster as well as mike memoli who have been covering the biden campaign forever. anne gearan, "washington post" columnist eugene robinson, bob shrum.
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wow, what an all-star panel. ali vitali, you've been all over this. why is warren getting out? why not before super tuesday? what went wrong? what she's likely to do? all of that. >> all of the things, andrea. and really super tuesday was the pivotal moment for this campaign throughout those early four contests. we had seen she had middlie performances. they were pushing towards super tuesday opening their projections would be right and she would b enough delegates to make phone she's suspending her campaign. there's one thing from that phone call that really stuck out to me. i just the campaign. she said i refuse to let disappointment blind me or you to what we've accomplished. it's not the scale of the difference we wanted to make, but it matters. and the changes will have ripples for years to come. the most immediate ripple of this campaign is going to be if elizabeth warren endorses and who that endorsement might go
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to. you outlined right now it's between biden and sanders. there are reasons to go with both of those campaigns or to not endorse at all. this is a scene where i'm standing right now which probably looks familiar to you. i'm standing in a crowd of reporters waiting to hear from elizabeth warren who's going to come out with her husband and make some remarks. this does bookend her campaign because this is where and how she started her campaign last year, 14 months ago. she stood on this street corner and announced she was going to be a candidate. now today, i think i've been seeing on twitter and many of the people here can't help remark on the fact that she was the last woman standing in this race. she was the person to stop the rise of michael bloomberg with the barrage of attacks she launched against him on the debate stage. now as she drops out of the race, voters only have two older white men to choose from. >> let's talk about that.
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anne gearan, we've covered politics together for a long time. the white house, the state department with the first women who were secretaries of state, you were in the pentagon before that. how long is it going to take before a woman -- and tulsi gabbard is still in the race. a woman of the significance of an elizabeth warren or kamala harris or amy klobuchar, kirsten gillibrand, any of the women who have been in the race before. with those senate kcredentials, the person who started up a major agency on the financial crisis and mortgage equity and all that. compare to the men who still remain in this race. >> well, i think -- we covered the hillary clinton campaign together too and the path-breaking nomination of a
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female major party candidate and, you know, i think the big question this year was, would another woman be able to repeat that or was the democratic party going to be leery of nominating another woman. obviously elizabeth warren was the main person we were all watching from the beginning. she was at one time considered to be a potential challenger to hillary clinton and that did not materialize. she was the threat to beat among other women candidates from the beginning. and she lasted the longest. there's been a lot of discussion today that the glass ceiling is intact and i think that will be one of the major interpretations of elizabeth warren's candidacy. it also should be said, though, that she changed the conversation. a lot of the -- what other candidates have talked about was because elizabeth warren already had a plan for it on many policy
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prescriptions and i think she is no doubt -- when she says to her staff, you know, we're not going to let disappointment stop us, she's also saying, we injected a lot of important policy into this campaign that will outlast us. >> and exactly, shaq brewster, my take is also that she could have a huge influence depending on who she endorses and when. shaq, i want to show everyone a bit of what your candidate bernie sanders said to rachel maddow exclusively last night about the subject of elizabeth warren. >> senator warren has worked really hard over the last year. >> would you consider asking senator warren to be your running mate? >> it's too early to talk about that. certainly i have a lot of respect for senator warren and would love to sit down and talk to her about what kind of role she can play in our
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administration. >> she has talked to both candidates, to biden and sanders. i don't know if she's telegraphed what she's planning to do. are you picking up anything from the sanders camp? >> well, sanders' deputy campaign manager was talking with craig melvin just in the past hour and he pointed back to what you heard from senator sanders in that clip right there, the praise that he gave elizabeth warren, the praise for her campaign and the ideas that she brought to the campaign. senator sanders, he's going to have a rally later this evening in phoenix and i think what we can hear from him there is similar to what we heard after mayor pete buttigieg and amy klobuchar dropped out of the race, where he praised them and welcomed the supporters there. that's an easier lift for senator sanders this time around because they were allies. and senator sanders has tried to pick up the progressive mantle and frame this race as himself and joe biden. that's what is being reflected
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in the new advertising where he references joe biden, in the attacks that you heard in that interview with rachel maddow last night, bringing up things like social security or the iraq war vote. this campaign is looking forward to and hoping for an endorsement by elizabeth warren. but even if they don't get that, they think there's some opportunity for pickup in her supporters because of the overlap in policy. >> and then to mike memoli, what about joe biden? could he conceivably get elizabeth warren's endorsement? might he feel she would have more impact to bring the progressive wing of the party into a joint venture, if you will. >> she has real political leverage. my first thought earlier today after the news broke was to a moment on the debate stage at her highest point, really, in this campaign, when she was briefly the national front-runner in the polls and biden took the fight to her on health care. and he asked her when he was trying to pin her down on
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specifics, medicare for all versus building on the affordable care act, he asked, are you for bernie or are you for barack a resolution becaus we see biden with all the momentum right now. but i think she knowings, they' had these kinds of conversations about this before. they talked about a role for her on the ticket. she could play a role here. the biden people want to give her the day as they did with mayor pete buttigieg the other day. there are conversations to come. >> and, bob shrum, you've looked at this from the standpoint of your veteran experience and democratic politics. elizabeth warren arguably was the person who sunk mike bloomberg, if he didn't sink
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himself on the debate stage. her questioning was the toughest of anyone. in the next debate, she took on all of the others. she had a -- not only a plan for everything, but she had a knife jab for all of the others. she's a tough customer. really smart. crushingly smart among the contenders. what is her impact going forward? >> i think she would have a big impact if she endorsed biden. she would prolong the contest if she endorsed sanders. i don't think that we can assume that all the people who supported her will move over to bernie sanders. there's some tensions there. the dispute over whether or not bernie sanders told her that a woman couldn't be elected president, the people on twitter who supported sanders and at one point called her a snake. but she could easily have won this race. i think what happened to her was
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she got caught up in the coils of medicare for all, trying to explain how she was going to pay for it. at one point pete buttigieg looked at her and said, you have a plan for everything else, what about this? and i think that was the beginning of her campaign coming apart after she had risen to the top of the polls. >> and, eugene, one of the things that also was clear with elizabeth warren as with amy klobuchar and pete buttigieg before her, is that she could not win over the support of african-american voters in south carolina. that south carolina primary was not just an enormous victory and turning point for joe biden, but it also caused others to decide to leave the race. >> yeah, it sure did. the numbers of african-american votes for those other candidates, including buttigieg, were just minuscule, basically. look, you cannot win the democratic nomination unless you
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can show you have -- you can win african-american votes. now, i think -- i don't think any -- elizabeth warren did anything to preclude winning those votes. i think she ran a good, smart campaign. she hired a lot of predominant african-americans on her staff. in terms of the issues, she was seen by most african-americans as being right on the issues. but she was just -- you know, biden had kind of an inside track and then of course when the clyburn endorsement came, that sort of loosed the flood gates and that sunk her there. it will be fascinating to see whether and when and whom she endorses. and my guess is that she might not endorse anybody today. she might keep her leverage. and that in and of itself would
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be a help to biden because it would -- it could help bernie sanders enormously if she went for him immediately. but i would be surprised if that happened. i think you just called me a liar on national television, i don't think she's forgotten that moment. >> yeah, and in fact, i think that my own understanding is that she won't endorse today and if she doesn't endorse before march 10th, that could be significant. obviously that's the next big round of primaries. i also want to ask you about something else because there's a new ad -- a new bernie sanders ad and you can argue that it's because -- first of all, he's embracing the establishment. it shows him with a voice and image of barack obama supporting him. so that's certainly an embrace of the establishment that he's been railing against. but also it's significant because he failed in south carolina to penetrate with african-american voters. he's not expanded his base
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there. and here he is embracing the icon for many african-american voters in particular, as well as white voters. >> you have a new ad out today featuring president obama praising you in the past. is president obama part of the democratic establishment that you say -- >> no. and i want to say something about barack obama. i'm not going to tell you he's my best friend, but i talk to him every now and then, and i have a lot of respect for him. do we have disagreements? of course we had. just the other day he said -- i think biden had reached out to him and wanted his support and he said no. i think i will be more effective in supporting the eventual winner. >> everybody is embracing barack. he's a wonderful guy. the idea that bernie sanders was a great supporter of the president of the united states and shares his views, i mean, come on. >> what is the impact of bernie
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sanders now coming up with his own barack obama is my best friend kind of ad? >> i'd be very surprised if it has much impact at all. i understand the play. i understand that he looked at those numbers from south carolina, he looked at the numbers across the south. from, you know, virginia all the way around to texas, and the numbers -- biden just dominated -- >> i should just point out -- let me just point out, we should have made clear, it's completely taken out of context. it goes back to 2006, it edits together different images and voices. it's the kind of ad if donald trump put it up, mike bloomberg would be railing about it. >> i think people generally know that context. it is hard. if you want to compete on the basis of who's closest to barack obama, it's very hard if you're going to compete against the guy who was his vice president for eight years. you're kind of not going to get
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there. i think maybe he's trying to accentuate or create this generation gap among african-american voters that we've been hearing about. we didn't see that much evidence of it on super tuesday, of younger black voters or, you know, like bernie sanders, those younger black voters don't vote in the numbers that older black voters do and you didn't see that sharp division that i think the sanders people were hoping for. maybe he's trying to inch that up. >> eugene robinson, mike memoli, anne gearan, thanks to you. they're about to get this announcement from elizabeth warren and, of course, shaq brewster with the sanders campaign coverage right now. as the coronavirus spreads, president trump continues to
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contradict health experts. we have the facts for you coming up next. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports." stay with us right here on msnbc. ay with us right here on msnbc.
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and as the number of coronavirus cases continues to climb, the virus is spreading and so too is disinformation. president trump is being criticized for minimizing the severity of the coronavirus outbreak. this is what he said when he called into fox last night. >> we have a report today the global death rate at 3.4% and a report that the olympics could be delayed. your reaction to that? >> well, i think the 3.4% is really false number. now, this is just my hunch, but based on a lot of conversations with a lot of people who do this, a lot of people will have this and it's very mild. they'll get better very rapidly. they don't see a doctor. they don't call a doctor. >> now, let me be clear, we
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discussed whether to play that because we didn't want to spread more disinformation, but it's not truth. the world health organization says the coronavirus death rate is 3.4%. and i don't know what the president's hunches are. he's the president of the united states and it's important to point out if he is saying things, important issue like this, that are not correct. to fact-check him, i'm joined by white house correspondent geoff bennett and also dr. celine gounder and she is an infectious disease specialist and epidemiologist and host of the epidemic, a podcast, and ben rhodes. first to you, geoff. talk to me from the white house about the points the president has been making in some of his interviews and how to deal with that. >> reporter: and to put this in some context without excusing
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the disinformation, president trump as we know by now views things through a lens of how it affects him politically, how it helps or hurts his political standing. it appears he's done that with the coronavirus response as well. and that's one of the reasons why he is now spreading unwittingly or otherwise false information. so, yes, yesterday he said that based on a hunch, he was trying to dispute and discredit the world health organization's fact-based assessment of the death rate. he suggested there has been a coronavirus linked death in new york when there is no such case. president trump is not the first american president to have to carefully navigate in a time of crisis how to reassure the american public without undercutting what should be a credible public health message. but facts have to be accurate and language has to be precise. that's why as we reported last week, the vice president's
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office started employing a heavier hand in trying to coordinate and in some cases clearing the messaging coming from this administration about the threat, about the fact of coronavirus. what this white house has not been able to do yet, is to corral the president himself. >> and, doctor, one of the things the president said is that people can go back to work without speaking precisely about that. that does contradict the advice of all medical experts about what people should do if they do get diagnosed with this. >> i think we do need to step back a little bit in looking at these numbers. there's been so much focus on the fatality rate and their very country-dependent. ebola, we saw 20 to 80%, depending on what kind of country you were in, what kind of health systems they had. and that 3.4% that the world health organization is reporting is really an average across
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different countries, different health systems. the case fatality rate in iran has been much higher. and so i think he brought actually is correct when he says that it's going to be lower in the united states. but we just don't have the data yet. i think that said, it's really important that we not minimize this. if you are sick, you should not be going to work. and to remember that the people who are highest risk for severe cases and complications and death are the elderly and people with chronic medical conditions as well as health care workers. we really do need to focus on protecting those three groups in particular. >> ben rhodes, there's been a lot of criticism that the u.s. was not prepared, that since january there have been warnings from china that the test kits weren't ready, weren't usable. how as a national security official do you -- do you evaluate the way the white house is responding now that mike pence is in charge and they're trying to create a structure to
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deal with this thing? >> first of all, andrea, a lot of what you can do to deal with a pandemic you have to do before the outbreak comes. these things happen periodically. we had h 1 n 1 in 2009, we had ebola in 2014, that's why they were setting up an office in the white house, increases in funding, and president trump had reversed all of that, eliminated that office, closed a lot of the offices in other countries, proposed slashes to the funding for preparedness. he was ham strung before this began. then i think what we lost critical time here in december, january, february, when we could see this beginning to become an outbreak, and yet he was more focused on calming markets. and what the white house should have been doing is moving heaven and earth to get as much resources to the cdc and appropriate agencies to have an effective response. once you have this coming to our shores like this, once you have a pandemic like this, part of
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what is so essential is clear fact-based messaging to the american people. and when we were sitting in the white house, what that meant was, putting the experts front and center, putting people from cdc and nih front and center. having president obama echo their messages. what we have is this constant highlighting of president trump's weaknesses, a disdain for expertise, dishonest messaging from the white house. that is very dangerous in a pandemic and what i would like to see now is an effort to get the experts front and center to provide the information to the american people that they need to know. >> the irony is a lot of the president's motivation seems to be to prop up the markets because of nervousness in the markets when there is a pandemic. because he's not been accurate, it has had the reverse effect of rattling the markets. there's a big emergency supplemental that's being passed today and it's some $8 billion,
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dwarfing the 2 1/2 billion. it's final passage on the floor. but you have matt gates, this very -- i don't know how you would describe matt gates. >> colorful. >> that's a good one. wearing a gas mask and tweeting that picture out going to the house floor. how does that help the situation when you've got this republican congressman going to the floor to vote on the supplemental appropriation? >> and i'll tell you, andrea, m matt gates has been transparent. he called it a joke. he was completely transparent that it was a play for attention. it seems to have worked, perhaps not the way he had hoped. but to ben rhodes' point, there are experts who say the administration is taking the steps it needs to take by appointing people like deborah birx who coordinates on a day-to-day basis the coronavirus response. i'm told that she is a serious, sober-minded professional.
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she brings 30-plus years experience. if she's empowered to do the work she needs to do, that will be a good thing. the vice president is headed to washington state as that region grapples with the outbreak. because the administration is not always putting those people front and center, that doesn't necessarily get the attention that folks in this white house would hope that it gets. >> and the markets are down around 780 at this point of the day as the volatility continues. geoff bennett, doctor celine gounder and ben rhodes, thanks to all. steve kornacki is at the big board. she's still at the big board. does this man ever sleep. plus what we are monitoring, elizabeth warren's hometown, we expect to hear from her soon. we'll bring that to you live when it happens. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. reports"c
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and we are following the breaking news today, senator elizabeth warren dropping out of the presidential race. this comes as senator bernie sanders and former vice
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president joe biden are gearing up for the next set of primaries on tuesday. voters in six states will be heading to the polls including michigan, a crucial state where 125 delegates are at stake. sanders won that four years ago. this morning michigan's governor threw her support behind biden. >> i'm going to be voting for joe biden. joe biden is someone that i know, is working to protect health care that was expanded under the obama administration. because of the work that barack obama and joe biden did, i was able to expand medicaid coverage to 700,000 people in the state of michigan. >> and of course she was speaking on "morning joe" today. she was elected in 2018 as the governor of michigan. joining me now for a preview of the michigan race, we're going to expect elizabeth warren momentarily. steve kornacki, the man with the
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board. steve, what are you looking at in terms of the upcoming -- the upcoming big primaries on march 10th? >> there's some trouble for sanders ahead. it looks that way now. this is the running delegate count right now. they're adding more from super tuesday. biden coming out of there with a lead of about 60 over sanders. the reason that's -- it looks close, but the reason why that's bad news nfor sanders is becaus of what's coming up next. we wanted to get a pad there for the upcoming states. mississippi, it's a small number of delegates but the margins suggest that joe biden could get an overwhelming victory in mississippi, maybe more than 30 of the delegates out of mississippi. missouri could be trouble for bernie sanders. four years ago, this was a very close state. sanders versus hillary clinton. but we are seeing that sanders is not getting the same rural white, blue collar support. he underperformed.
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we saw trouble for in him in arkansas. sanders won michigan four years ago, narrow win for him four years ago in terms of margin. there's a poll out that was taken just last weekend as south carolina was being absorbed that put joe biden ahead in michigan by seven points. there's a question if that biden momentum has always moved. the big picture, question, i think, that we're seeing here is when you look back at sanders' numbers four years ago and right now, i think one thing we're asking and starting to have answered is how much of that sanders vote four years ago wasn't really a vote for sanders as much as it was a vote against hillary clinton. when sanders versus biden, perhaps those dynamics are different and they reshape a race in missouri and michigan. one more out in washington state, sanders got a huge win in washington four years ago. but washington was a caucus
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state four years ago. they have switch today a presidential primary. this is something we saw on tuesday. minnesota on tuesday, same thing. sanders had won a caucus by a landslide there four years ago. they switched to a primary. biden just won the primary by almost ten points in minnesota. washington is a caucus state, was a great state for bernie sanders. switching to a primary with a much wider universe of voters could be a very different story for him. to come out of super tuesday down 60 delegates, to have the trouble that's emerging here and if you went a week later, florida comes a week later. the polling has been horrific for bernie sanders in florida. he got trounced there four years ago. it doesn't look any better right now. there's the possibility there too for joe biden to get a big delegate advantage. >> yeah, and just in the last week, he has said things about cuba, praising certain social policies of the castro regime
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and then not only saying he couldn't make the apec convention this past week, but saying he wouldn't kol because he believed there were aspects of the organization that are racist. we're going to break away to cambridge, massachusetts, there's elizabeth warren, her husband. a woman who said she had a plan for everything, a plan for everything except the downturn in her campaign. but she's got a lot of leverage going forward. >> all right. so i announced this morning that i am suspending my campaign for president. i say this with a deep sense of gratitude for every single
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person who got in this fight, every single person who tried on a new idea, every single person who just moved a little in their notion of what a president of the united states should look like. i will not be running for president in 2020 but i guarantee i will stay in the fight for the hard-working folks across this country have gotten the short end of the stick over and over. that's been the fight of my life and it will continue to be so. anyone have a question? >> what guidance would you give to your supporters who don't know who to support now? >> well, let's take a deep breath and spend a little time on that. we don't have to decide on this minute. >> and i wonder what your message would be to little girls who are left with two white men. >> one of the hard things is all those big promises and little
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girls who are going to have to wait four more years. that's going to be hard. >> reporter: why do you think -- >> reporter: will you be making an endorsement today? we know you spoke with both joe biden and bernie sanders yesterday. >> not today. i need some space around this. and i want to take a little time to think a little more. i've been spending a lot of time right now on the question of suspending and also making sure that this works as best we can for our staff, for our team, for our volunteers. >> reporter: it could be coming but not right now. >> not right now. >> reporter: i know that your campaign manager said on the call today that he had no regrets. do you feel the same way? >> i do. i have no regrets at all. this has been the honor of a lifetime. ten years ago, i was teaching a few blocks from here and talking about what was broken in america and ideas for how to fix it. and pretty much nobody wanted to
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hear it. and i've had a chance to get out there and talk with millions of people. we have ideas now that we talk about that we weren't talking about even a year ago. a two cent wealth tax and universal child care that could be real. we could make it happen. and canceling student loan debt for 43 million americans and raising social security payments. those are life-changing events for people. and we could actually do this. i'm delighted to have been here and honored to have had this chance. [ inaudible question ] >> i was told at the beginning of this whole undertaking that there are two lanes, a progressive lane that bernie sanders is the incumbent for and a moderate lane that joe biden is the incumbent for and there's no room for anyone else in this. i thought that wasn't right. but evidently i was wrong rnc.
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>> reporter: why weren't you able to resonate more? >> as i said, i was told when i first got into this, there are two lanes, and i thought it was possible that that wasn't the case, that there was more room and more room to run another kind of campaign. but evidently that wasn't the case. >> reporter: to lose your home state massachusetts? >> no, i am deeply grateful to the people of massachusetts. back in 2012, they took a chance on someone who had never run for public office before. they ousted a very popular incumbent republican senator to give me a chance, to stand up on a bigger platform and fight for their families and i am deeply grateful for that. they returned me to the senate in 2018 and i'm deeply grateful for that. they're the reason i'm in this fight and they're the reason i
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am able to stand here today. >> reporter: senator warren, two questions for you. i saw you vote two days ago for yourself. >> i did. >> reporter: two things, could you reflect a little bit about what that was like for you and then the other question is, could you talk a little bit about the role that you think that gender played in this campaign and in this race? >> so it was -- i stood at that voting booth and i saw my name on the ballot. and i thought, wow, kiddo, you're not in oklahoma anymore. it really was a moment of thinking about how my mother and dad, if they were still here, would feel about this. i had gotten a long email from my nephew and how proud his dad, my brother is, and how they were
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all -- had their plans to vote and had met other people. and it is, it's these long ties. for that moment standing in the booth, i missed my mom and my daddy. gender in this race, you know, that is the trap question for every woman. if you say, yeah, there was sexism in this race, everyone says whiner. and if you say, no, there was no sexism, women think, what planet do you live on? i promise you this, i will have a lot more to say on that subject later on. >> reporter: senator, what is your advice to your supporters? >> let's take a deep breath and think about this for a little bit longer before we settle in. >> reporter: what were you
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thinking about, what informed -- what was the final straw? >> a big part of it is to think about all the people who turned their lives upside down to be a part of this campaign. all of the staffers who moved and worked long hours, gave up jobs to be here, took leaves from school, to think about what works for them. this isn't just about me? it's a whole lot of people who were a big part of this. and also our volunteers. to try to think through. for all those people who have already invested so many hours and so much of their heart in the phone calls and the door knocks and the coming to the office and help clean things up and keep it all going and all of the promises. i take those pinkie promises seriously. those were the things i needed
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to think through and how we make all those pieces work, at least as best we can for everyone. and one last thing, it's about all the people who are affected by all the issues i've talked about. whether they got involved in my fight or someone else's fight or even not at all, but however we talk about this, there still is a trillion and a half dollars of student loan debt outstanding. there are people across this country who -- one bad medical diagnosis and they're upside down financially. there are still moms and dads all across this country who can't finish their education, can't take on jobs because they can't find access to decent child care that they can afford. and i had to think a lot about where is the best place for me to go to keep fighting those
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fights because those problems don't disappear when i stand here in front of you. those problems go on and my job is to keep fighting and to fight as smartly and effectively as i can. thank you. thank you. [ applause ] >> elizabeth warren, her husband, bailey the dog, a crowd of reporters and an emotional departure from this race. she said one of the hardest parts of this is all those little girls who have to wait another four years, that in reference to seeing a woman nominee, a woman breaking that glass ceiling. this has been the honor of a lifetime. she was asked by ali vitali the question about the gender issue. ali joining us now. i was struck when she was asked
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about standing in the voting booth and seeing her name on the ballot and saying, wow, you're not in oklahoma anymore and also then saying i missed my mom and my daddy. i think back at this campaign, you've covered all of it, the moment on the debate stage when she and bernie sanders really mixed it up over whether or not he had told her when she first got into this that a woman could not succeed and whether that will influence her decision now. >> reporter: that was such a pivotal moment, andrea, and i don't think we can discount what that factor will be when she thinks about who she's going to endorse because i think the biggest question that we had coming into this was if elizabeth warren would throw her support behind the others left in this race, and the answer was, let's take a breathe. she said she's thinking about what an endorsement would look like, but she's not endorsing here today. and i think to me standing here in this scrum of reporters, this
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was an as you mention about what her message would be to women and girls who feel like they're left with two white men left to choose from. you could tell she got emotional about it. one of the hallmarks of being on the campaign trail with elizabeth warren, yes, it is the selfie line, but in the selfie line there are often little girls, little kids who come up. when they come up to senator warren, what she tends to do is make them make a pinky promise that running for office is something they do. she's trying to inspire several generations of women to run for office. one of the most critical pieces of the campaign, one of the most consistent on the campaign trail, asking her what it means that it shook out to be two guys at the top, and elizabeth warren being the last woman standing, ultimately having to drop out. you could tell she got emotional about it. you could see it in her eyes. that to me is one of the lasting images, especially when asked
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about the role gender played in the campaign. that's a question you and i will be asking our sources and other colleagues in the field for a long time. what she said is reminiscent of something she told me in an interview i did several weeks ago, you're damned if you do, damned if you don't. damned if not aggressive enough, or too aggressive. she talks about the double edged sword of gender. today was certainly no exception as she wrapped up, officially suspended her campaign out here today. >> and as she phrased it, she said, you know, did sexism play a role, if you say yes, you're a whiner, if you say no, it didn't play a role, a lot of women say what planet are you living on. ali, being a road warrior with the candidate is so displayed with your sense and knowledge of her, the way you got that question in, the way you framed all your reporting. i want to thank you, and it continues. to see you out there, it is a
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great thing. mi mike memoli, the other part of this, the biden campaign. in a way, it would be disnent for her to endorse joe biden given her position on issues which are contradictory. doesn't talk about deficits matter, she talks about the plans she has. he talks about cost of those plans against medicare for all, and tried to define it as being phased in, which was one of the moments when the campaign began to falter when she started talking about how to pay for it, which bernie has not. want to bring up the joe biden tweet. he tweeted she's the fiercest of fighters for families. her work in washington and on the campaign trail has made a real difference in people's lives. we need her continued work in the senate. >> we need her continued work in the senate suggests that the talk of a joint ticket here is not something we should necessarily be anticipating.
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we could be overreading that. these things are worded carefully for a reason. we know the conversations between the two have already begun and are likely to continue in coming days, weeks, months potentially. i think we can look back at how both hillary clinton and barack obama ended up joining forces and also the role that senator warren played in 2016 about either lending her progressive power as a support to the nominee who is lacking in that area to try to bring some energy to the ticket. she could play a role like she did for clinton in energizing. >> i remember just we were staking out hillary clinton's house when warren went over for the big pow-wow, was she going to join the race. it was warren saying she wasn't joining the race that propelled bernie sanders in back in 2015. >> and it is interesting to think back what tripped up warren in this race. it was those moments where she was pressed on details of
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medicare for all and joe biden was among those doing that. that was his effort to get back into frontrunner position when she had seized that mantle from her. he said are you with bernie or barack, she hadn't been clear about necessarily all the details. the biden theory of the case is americans, especially democrats, are closer to where he is on the issues than that. she's going to want to use her leverage, knowing she can play a role to expedite the party coalescing around joe biden as it appears to be. >> ali vitale, counterintuitive to think she may not endorse either of them? >> reporter: look, i think anything is possible right now. i think the underpinning to all this is that elizabeth warren has always been someone who knows her leverage and the power of her endorsement at this moment is palpable. she has always put policy and ideas first. i think that's going to be crucial. i also think in the larger scheme of this, yes, bernie sanders is the person that holds the progressive mantle now, but
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for elizabeth warren she really was able to pull away some of his supporters and to make the case that yes, progressive policy ideas are popular, but that bernie sanders isn't the only person in the democratic political game who can own the progressive lane and own progressive policies because certainly elizabeth warren through her plans and heavily detailed plans was frankly able to fill in more gaps on how you get the plans and progressive policies done than bernie sanders has yet to, frankly. >> ali vitale, and mike memoli, we're going to be watching this fascinating another turn in one of the most extraordinary roller coasters of democratic primaries. i am joined by congresswoman abigail spanburger from virginia, she's backing joe biden. congresswoman is a freshman from virginia. what is your reaction to elizabeth warren, a 70-year-old woman, dropping out of the race, leaving two older men, older
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white men in this race with all the diversity that began on the debate stages back in june. >> well, i just had the opportunity to listen to the questions that she was answering that you had on your broadcast and i think what is most salient is how passionate elizabeth warren has been throughout the entirety of her campaign and frankly before she even launched her campaign during time in the senate and i think it is important to focus on what she brought to the race, what the other women who were also in the race brought to this race. she spoke about little girls that made the pinky promises. that really touched me. i am one of three daughters, i have three daughters. every time i saw a picture of elizabeth warren giving a pinky promise with a little girl and there was a little girl able to see that woman is running for president, if it was amy klobuchar or kamala harris saying these women are running
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for president, it is powerful. so i think that her presence in the race has been powerful for so many reasons and i'm appreciative that she ran. >> congresswoman, you brought up exactly a moment that was so emotional for me frankly and for a lot of others watching. let me play part of that for you. >> one of the hardest parts of this is all those pinky promises and all those little girls who are going to have to wait four more years. that's going to be hard. >> you know, i was covering hillary clinton when she talked about all the millions of cracks in the glass ceiling. how long is it going to take for a woman to be nominated by a major party and then elected president? >> i can't answer that question. i hope it is sooner than it is later but i know here in the halls of congress we have more
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women serving than we ever have before. we ran and won across the country in 2018 and i hope that if i'm a small part of the foundation that lays the path toward a woman ultimately becoming president, i will have been proud of the small place that i have played in that as a woman running at the congressional level. >> you've chosen joe biden over bernie sanders. i know a number of moderate democrats such as yourself, you're from a swing state, a state that's been reliably blue awhile but can swing either way, you have military intelligence background, does bernie sanders at the top of the ticket and bernie sanders will likely be helped by warren dropping out, now clarifying two wings of the party against each other, a head to head match, does it hurt joe biden for warren to drop out now? >> i can't answer that question. what i do know is there are so many people across my district,
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central virginia, 7th district of virginia who have been inspired and excited for all of the candidates and in fact, i made the decision not to endorse until after the polls closed in virginia, and i announced that weeks ago because there's so much engagement on the ground in central virginia. i heard from my colleagues on capitol hill it is the same back home in their districts. there are people that are motivated, excited to be part of the process, and they have engaged with candidates across the spectrum. so what i'm focused on, i chose ultimately to endorse vice president biden because i believe in the policies that he is working towards, strengthening aca, building on it, adding public option, listening to voices, legislating with a heart for the people, recognizing the challenges that we continue to face as a country, acknowledging our best days are ahead, and focus on building broad coalitions of people across generations, across demographics, across the
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country to really put this country back on the right path and make substantial progress on the issues that frankly all of the candidates have been speaking about. >> congresswoman, thank you very much. what a day, what a show, what a story. that does it for us. chris jansing joins us now. takes over in new york. after another extraordinary hour. thank you so much, andrea. i am chris jansing. we are following big breaking news in the 2020 campaign today. what has been one of the most volatile stunning weeks in modern political history just took another twist when just moments ago an emotional elizabeth warren announced she's out. >> i announced this morning that i am suspending my campaign for president. i say this with a deep sense of