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that is going to do it for us tonight, i will see you again this time 23 hours from. now it's time for -- with lawrence. >> rachel, you are always welcome on the side of 10:00. pulling up stacey abrams book, rachel, her new book because it presents from a awkward situation tonight. stacey abrams nubuck, while justice sleeves, it's number one on the new york times bestseller list for fiction, here's the awkward part, she knocked off a friend of mine, laura dave, who was number one, on the new york times the seller list perfection with her brilliant new novel, the net last thing he told me which i
loved. i can't for about a laura dave's novel on this show because laura dave is not one of the national leaders of american politics, like stacey abrams, so i'll be supporting stacey abrams number one position on the bestseller list tonight for, knocking off my friend, laura dave's book, the last thing he told me. she still on the bestseller list she's just down from number one. stacey abrams owns the number one spot. so i don't know how to help laura dave on this, >> what's the name of her book? again >> the name of laura dave 's new brilliant novel is the last thing he told me. >> i thought that what it was. [laughs] >> something else very important tonight rachel, the important -- she's going to join us tonight.
>> i want you to imagine this. you're in your local will greens today, and you're going to step up to that counter to your appointment to get the moderna vaccine. down the aisle, as you're standing, they're down the aisle at walgreens comes the creator of the moderna vaccine, in your walgreens while you are about to get her vaccine, that happened today, and msnbc camera crew happened to be there and catch that moment for a couple of people, all of that is going to be later in the show tonight. i >> want to see that. >> rachel, it's incredibly exciting. i was watching that happen live from our control room. it was incredible. edge of the seat stuff for me. really exciting.
>> lawrence you should stop talking to me and talk to those awesome guests. yeah we have a lot of guest to talk to. thank you rachel. our first guest tonight, stacey abrams, who as you know is now number one on the new york times fiction bestseller list, has also been working on strengthening voter rights and voter registration for a very long time. and now stacey abrams is facing a new voting challenge. and you challenge to democracy and justice. counting the votes. then you republican cellist to democracy in this country means that the candidate who gets the most votes will not necessarily win. wherever republicans control state governments say georgia, georgia's new election law appears to allow the republican state legislature to overturn an election, if a republican candidate comes in second. new republican election laws are trying to limit the role of courts. the same courts in america that
preserved justice by crushing every single election challenge that donald trump lawyers brought into a courtroom in this country. donald trump feel to have but into victory overturned in georgia in 2020 but the new law might allow georgia republicans to overturn future democratic wins in georgia. but the arizona secretary of state calls eight fraud in arizona will have no effect on the biden presidency of the cyber ninjas running that fraudulent exercise ever finish with they're doing to those ballots. but it can be seen as a rehearsal for republican controlled states in the next presidential election. some republican elected officials in arizona started attacking the fraud this week. william gates, a republican member of the maricopa county, board of supervisors said this today. >> some people are reporting to meet the republican national committee supports what's going on right now, in veterans
memorial coliseum. they support known conspiracy theories, using uv lights to find bamboo. i'm a lifelong republican, and i'm shocked and horrified at the rnc would be supporting this. i think that the rnc right now would be wanting to sharpening the message and taking it to joe biden and the democrats, who are governing right now as progressives. we're not doing that. we are re-litigating the 2020 election. -- >> -- michigan's democratic secretary of state, justin benson, said this today to nicole wallace on msnbc. >> those who are trying to undermine democracy and who did so in the months immediately following the election have not stopped, indeed they have just escalated their effort this is a nationally coordinated and will fund strategy that will continue i believe not just the midterms but all the way through 2024 with the same forces that emerged in 2020 will be back, but this time will be stronger.
one of the standard questions and one of the easiest questions in a basic mental competency test in this country who is the president of the united states? two thirds of republicans fail at that basic mental competency test, or at least struggle with. it a recent poll found that two thirds of republicans don't think that joe biden is the legitimate winner of the 2020 election. the people who represent those diluted voters are now trying to block an investigation on the attack on the capital january 6th by a independent partisan commission, the legislation establishing the commission asked house of representatives last night with all robin -- voting for it and donald trump who as a disgraced twice impeached lying loser is banned from twitter and other social media, someone put out a old-fashioned press release for him today in which he called those 35 house republicans who
voted for the january 6th commission quote 35 we word republicans, we word. now there is a guy who's lost his fastball. we word has apparently replaced words like low life in the trump lexicon. donald trump has never used the word wayward, and doesn't have any idea what it means, but that is what happens when someone else writes your press releases for you. it's yet another proof that donald trump is much more distracted by and panicked about criminal prosecutors into states, closing in on him, that he is about we were republicans. the house republican leader, kevin mccarthy, had at least one angry conversation on the phone with donald trump on january 6th when kevin mccarthy was hiding in a undisclosed location and fear of being run
by the trump mob. since then, kevin mccarthy's defense against the trump mob is to join the trump. mob capital kathy voted against the january 6th commission to investigate with donald trump did on that day and what kevin mccarthy did on that day. kevin mccarthy was asked today whether he would testify to that commission. he said he, would fully confident that that commission will never exist, because it will be blocked by republicans in the senate where the bell needs 60 votes to pass. today, senate majority leader, chuck schumer, asked republican senators to support the bill. >> i was within 20 feet of the republicans. it was one of the darkest moments in american democracy and, yet not five months and leader many on the republican side are trying to whitewash what happened. my senate republican colleagues must now ask themselves are they going to join us in pursuing the truth? or are they going to cover for donald trump and his big lie?
>> the choices don't join democrats in the senate -- with donald trump on the big lie? that's not a hard decision for most senate republicans, surely there should be some republican votes in the commission, -- voted to convict donald trump in the impeachment trial for inciting the insurrection of the capital but ten republican votes in the senate for the january 6th commission seem hard to find at this point. kevin mccarthy faced another question from a reporter today which showed how afraid he is of being subpoenaed to testify under oath to a january 6th commission. >> i don't think so. >> >> there he is running away from the question. that's the response of someone
who is terrified of ever having to testify under oath about what he knows about the january 6th attack on the capitol. this, week democratic senator, joe manchin, and -- reached a bipartisan agreement of exactly two senators to reauthorize a provision of a voting rights act that had been struck down by the supreme court and a letter between pelosi and schumer in the senate along with the republican minority leaders of the house and senate. senator manchin and senator murkowski wrote. senator manchin and senator murkowski will need nine more republicans to join them to pass that bill. leading off our discussion tonight is stacey abrams, the founder of the voter protection act, verified action, and she's
the author of the new novel, while justice sleeps, which is now number one on the new york times bestseller list for affection. thank you very much for joining us tonight. we really appreciate it. congratulations on the bestseller list. i want to get a word in about the book after we discuss voting rights and these issues of the day at this moment. i want to start with what senator manchin is trying to do in the senate now which is to reauthorize that provision of the voting rights act that the supreme basically squashed. what is your reaction to that effort at this stage? >> i think it's an important step to take. we do need to reauthorize the voting rights act because it is the only way to preclude new laws that will erode access to the right to vote. the challenges that it is not enough on its own. we have to be both prophylactic with this, but we also have to respond to and neutralize the bad bills that are passing at
break neck pace in florida, georgia, arizona, texas and now being introduced and moving with speed in ohio and michigan. we need the voting rights in the -- john lewis acts separately they do something important together they actually protect our democracy but standing alone, it's insufficient to meet the insurrection that has never stopped. what started on january 6th continues to reverberate and we need both of those laws, both of those actions to protect the right to vote and to protect our democracy. >> the georgia law got a lot of attention on the issue of being able to give voters water while they are waiting in line, but the proficient that seems ultimately possibly the scariest of all is what it does in terms of empowering the georgia legislature in dealing with election results.
what can you tell us about what the georgia law does in changing the aftermath of voting and how the legislature might or might not be able to interfere with the count? >> part of the effectiveness of voter suppression is that it does not mean that a single target. it tries to dismantle or weaken the entirety of the system. and so, yes no water because people are going to be standing in line for seven or eight hours, they may just give up and go home. but if they make it through the gauntlet, they get their ballots cast, they get those ballots counted, on the other side, the republicans have said to themselves, we may not like the outcomes so we are going to rest away the power that we have invested in our election workers. people who are putting their time and their talent and their lives on the line, and we're going to say that they can be overturned by the act of state legislatures who don't like the outcome. when you do that, what you're saying is it's not worth knowing with outcome will be because they are going to break the outcome that they want.
but they will say in response is it doesn't say that in the law, but i've been in politics long enough as help you to know that what is on the paper can be just a precursor to what happens in reality, and because they were also trying to weaken access to the courts, we don't know the full extent of the power that they've given them to themselves but we know enough based on what we've seen in georgia, arizona, but the president of the united states try to do across the country 70 times, we know that it's not good to be good for america, and certainly not quite a big good for voters and it's not good for democracy. >> republicans don't like what happened to donald trump and rudy giuliani when they went to court, anywhere in this country after the election. lost everywhere they went. and so much of this new legislation that's being written by republican state legislatures is aimed at the courts. it is aimed at trying to control the outcome, and minimize the courts ability in certain situations, that seems
also like a very troubling aspect of this. it's what happens after the votes are cast. >> let's be clear. this isn't the decision of various state legislators who have been wrestling over these decisions and such response. this is a coordinated action by the republican national committee, by the big lie, and all of its purveyors, and this is their next attempt to undermine our democracy. and so yes they're going after the voters, they're going after the process, and they're going after the remedy because when you get through the entire gauntlet, if the last vestige of support for democracy are our courts, they're going to try to take power away there. we can't afford to be distracted by one or two or three attacks, we've got to realize that this is a futile lie, they are attacking every vestige of the system because they want the entire thing to either be so broken that we now longer expect success to be
there for voters or that we are so overwhelmed that we can't focus on the challenges before us. that's why there are 400 bills in more than 40 some states, that's why the refusing to take federal action, because they know that if we can actually focus our attention on protection of our democracy, they may lose an election. i can tell you it's not a fatal thing to lose an election, but it is dangerous to america to lose our democracy. >> you have now taken to writing fiction about the courts. your new book, while justice sleeps, is about the united states supreme court. that means that you and i know have something in common. we have both written fiction about the supreme court. i was a writer on a not well remembered, very short lived actually, cbs series set in the supreme court with the great james garner as the chief justice, charles, the wonderful actor, another supreme court justice, and when i found is a fiction writer is that boy that's a difficult place to write fiction. it is very hard to get the
action going in the supreme court, but you have done it in this book. why did you choose this focus for your fiction? >> i want to begin by apologizing to lure a day for you know doing anything that could possibly ruin a future friendship. >> thank you, that helps me a lot. absolutely. one of my dearest friends, teresa, who used to work in the clinton justice department, she was one of my mentors that my law firm and we were having lunch one day, in 2008, she said have you thought about this court in the constitution that the only people with a lifetime appointments and our government are also the only people who have no mechanism for removal if they fail to be able to do their jobs? and that is caught my imagination, caught my attention, and it became all justice leaps because as we discussed, the courts are sometimes the last bastion of justice. and if justice cannot be needed out it's up to us to figure it
out, and in this case, every. cain >> stacey abrams, if you are a writer on that supreme court show that we did on cbs it would still be on the air. this book really, it is really fun to read. i love that leap of the imagination, once you pick up that one colonel, that one interesting think there is no removal process, it all departs from that. stacey abrams a new book is while justice sleeps. stacey abrams, thank you very, very much for joining us tonight, we always really appreciate it. >> thank you, lawrence it's my pleasure. >> thank. you coming up the criminal investigation of donald trump at the manhattan district attorney's office has been joined by the new york state attorney general, we will be joined next by a veteran of the manhattan district attorney's office, the former chief assistant manhattan district attorney, daniel alonso joins us next. o join us next.
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attorney gave to bc news when asked about the criminal prosecution by new york attorney general letitia james into the long time donald trump chief officer's personal finances. the new york times reports. the attorney for allen weisselberg's former daughter in law, jennifer, has acknowledged her cooperation with attorney general. prosecutors are focusing on him because he's probably been
deeply involved in preparing trump's tax returns which could include conversations with donald trump that could show that donald trump intentionally falsified his tax returns. here's donald trump's former personal attorney and fixer, michael cohen, earlier this evening with ari melbourne. >> allen doesn't want to spend the golden years of his life incarcerated, so the question is going to be whether or not he is going to accept the responsability himself and spent his golden years, or he's going to provide the testimony that the attorney general and the district attorney wants. >> joining us now is daniel alonso, a former federal prosecutor in the eastern district of new york, and most importantly for tonight's discussion, former chief assistant district attorney in the manhattan district attorney's office. thank you very much for joining us tonight. we really appreciate it. if you are at your old job in the manhattan da's office tonight he would be in the thick of this investigation. from the elements of it that
have emerged publicly so far, including what we just, heard from in effect from ellen's former daughter in law, the criminal investigation by the state attorney general has been going on since at least march. how do you connect the dots in what we are seeing tonight? first of, all thanks for having me. i want to clarify that this isn't a true criminal investigation into the state attorney general, it's a investigation into the state attorney, the attorney general has joined forces with the da and cross does ignited, two of her lawyers are special da's and they're working closely. basically the combining forces and it makes great sense, in terms of connecting the dots we've known for a wild that there's a pretty substantial investigation. now, i think it's gotten even more substantial. for one thing, there seems to be an additional personal tax investigation on allyn, which
is very serious. that's harris by itself. obviously everyone knows but you have to pay taxes on any salary or benefits that you get as long as they're taxable fringe benefits. so if he will flee did not do that than he could well be in serious tax trouble personally in addition to what ever he has done at the trump organization that the da is investigating. >> what are the particular trip wires for businesses in new york city? because of has its own law, doesn't it, in addition to some state law involving doing business in new york city? >> in terms of what? >> well in terms of record keeping, and falsifying records, things like that. >> sure. you're talking about state law versus federal law. a very important state law that is used a lot in both fraud and corruption investigations by new york state prosecutors is falsifying business records. and that's clearly something that they're looking at. that might even be the very
first thing that they will be looking at because it, that law is implicated in the stormy daniels payments where the allegation is that the reimbursement to michael cohen of $130,000 was improperly accounted for in those records. and what is interesting and doesn't get reported a lot is that if you're a prosecutor in the da's office in the attorney generals office and you see one example of expense being mislabeled fraudulently falsified, you are than going to look for others, and you know in my experience it's relatively likely that there are others. i'm not saying that there are here but i know for sure that they would be looking for others in this case. >> yeah, so you're saying that you see a transaction like stormy daniels and use it feels very unlikely that a business like this that has been operating as long as it has is thinking of this particular scheme for the very first time. >> we used to say you know we're just not that good. we talk to you, with the only every thing you've ever, did
it's not that believable. >> [laughs] so do you have a sense of a timetable here, of when we would expect something to emerge by way of criminal charges? or some indication that an investigation has been closed down? >> stressing that is educated speculation like all of this is, we are reading tea leaves, i think there is every chance that -- is going to want to make this decision before he leaves office. he's not running for reelection. his term is up on december 31st of this year so i think it is highly likely that whatever charging decision will be made and i stress we don't know if it's against the organization, trump, other people, his organization, he's got to make that decision by the end of the year. >> daniel alonso thank you so much for joining us tonight. your expertise is invaluable to. us we have to be able to call you in the future. >> thank you for having me on. >> coming up. what's more amazing than
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>> here is mis-c or bit and she took years working on the vaccine for coronaviruses, before coronavirus existed. so, easy core but it was ready last year to quickly develop the vaccine model that moderna used for their covid-19 vaccine. when is he corbyn joined us on stage at the town hall earlier that our, there was someone she wanted to talk to a lot more than she wanted to talk to me. >> where is matthew? >> where is matthew. there he is. hi matthew. i get it. i completely understand. from where i sit, i think i've realized that through this moment, i sit in a place of privilege, where i have information on the day-to-day basis about these vaccines that the general person does not. the one thing that reassures me constantly, a seeing, overtime, more and more people getting these vaccines. the data are so clear and chris bin that they are effective.
>> after town hall was over, i went to thank her again, personally, she wasn't there. she had rushed off the stage, to speak one-on-one with matthew, before he left the theater. doctor core bit spent several minutes talking to matthew, maybe 10:15 minutes. i stood nearby listening to most of it before i had to leave. then i saw matthew on the sidewalk after i left the theater, and he told me he still wasn't convinced. and matthew went home, he talked to his mother about, it matthews mother who is dr. john cephas, a doctor of educational psychology, and she was vaccine as well -- hesitant as well to get the vaccine. until today, when matthew mallory, and his mother, went to a walgreens in virginia, and got their shot of kissing
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because harvard just got the amazing kid zeke. orbit she -- helped create the moderna vaccine of covid-19 and she will head the new coronavirus is another 11 emerging effective diseases lab to study and understand the interface between hosts, immune systems, and viruses that cause a respiratory disease with the goal of infecting develop and novel potentially universal vaccines. doctor kizzy corbett has already saved millions of lives with the covid vaccine. she showed up at a walgreens in virginia to save two more. we were there to record this conversation earlier today. >> joining us now, doctor kizzy corbett, matthew mallory, and matthew's mother, dr. joan cephas, who is a doctor of educational psychology. joining us from walgreens --
casey, this is a very, very exciting day. , kizzy. i wasn't sure this was going to happen. what's it like for you, you are vaccinating america one shot at a time. this is a big conversion for you. >> every single time someone decides to be vaccinated, it's extremely exciting for me. i will never get tired of hearing that people needed to make the choice to get vaccinated. moreover, wherever my voice can be the beginning of that change, i am so happy. i'm thank you -- thankful for matthew and his mom for coming out today, and of course i was excited to come out all the way to virginia to make sure it happened. >> matthew, how do you feel? >> i feel good, sir. >> so i -- you know, me kizzy i obviously chased down in the theater, right before the town hall. [laughs] and you or i were out on the
sidewalk after, and had an exchange. you told me you don't like needles. i used not like needles either. i told you though, that i didn't even feel it when i got my dana injection. i know there was no reason for you to believe me. how did it feel for you when you said you don't like needles, and you got it today? >> it felt good. i felt the same thing, i didn't feel anything at all. over and done with, before i even knew it. >> yeah, that was my experience with it. doctor cephas, what have you experienced and getting the vaccine today? >> it was very easy for me. t wait went by very quickly. >> so, doctor cephas, i have a question for you about doctor kizzy corbett. you are a doctor of educational psychology. please wait for me. the educational psychology that
kizzy corbett used on your son, and you, to get you into that walgreens today. [laughs] >> i looked at the town hall meeting, and i was very impressed with information being shared by dr. curb it. after talking to my son matthew after the show, that's what really inspired me to go ahead and get the vaccine. >> doctor cephas, kizzy and i know about matthews reluctance, why did you take this long to get the vaccine? >> -- i was listening to some of the conspiracy theories. not sure of the effectiveness of the vaccine. so after i got more information, became more educated, and doctor kizzy corbett really inspired me to get the vaccine.
>> now, you are just listening to kizzy corbett on -- and now at walgreens, this is beyond what you heard at the town hall. correct? >> yes. >> so would you say doctor rule kizzy corbett was the key for you to get the vaccine? >> she -- yes. deal kizzy corbett was the key, because she convinced my son to get it, and it snowballed to me to me to get it. >> kizzy one of you learned about reluctance? have you learned anything new from talking to matthew when his mother about reluctance? >> lawrence, one of the things i found it in the last, i guess you could say, six months, i talk to people all over the country, around their
reluctance or inquisitiveness with the vaccine. you really do need that person who will chase you down after town hall, to make sure your questions are answered. that's what i feel like my purpose is with matthew and his mother and beyond, actually. it's very important for us to make sure, again and again, that we listen to people. and that we leave no question unanswered regarding their questions around the vaccine. >> matthew, when you went home from the town hall, what did you tell your mother about it? , how did the two of you discuss this? >> we talked about it, how my experience was? verses -- i got a lot of information about the vaccine. it kind of push me over the edge, it went on and said yes, i will go ahead and do it. >> and, dr. cephas, was there anything in particular that matthew said, that drew you
closer to this decision? >> as we discussed one happened at the town hall and information they have gathered from attending the town hall, we talked about how we like to travel. , one of the motivating factors and getting the vaccine, was i like to travel. it became very evident to me, that in order to travel, it was being mandated to get the vaccine. so, that was a motivating factor. that's how we made the decision, and i share with my son if he got the vaccine i would get it, we would do it as a pair. >> how easy or difficult was it to find an appointment to get the vaccine? >> the appointment was very easy. they were coming down to policy, doing my information. they were able to educate me.
very easy. >> and kizzy how much degree of difficulty is there and making the appointment? >> it makes so much of a difference. i'm from raleigh north carolina. i understand the accessibility to getting vaccinated, and what it looks like. it's so helpful that there are about 20,000 pharmacies around the country that are now taking walk-in appointments. people can look at their local pharmacies online,.gov, and about 90% of people in this country, five miles of their local pharmacy are within the wreaths to get the vaccine. accessibility can become easier and hopefully more people would get vaccinated. >> matthew, six weeks from now you are free to travel safely. four weeks from now you get your second shot, two weeks after that, you are considered fully vaccinated. where do you want to go if you
can travel in six weeks? [laughs] >> actually, i have a trip planned. i plan to go to jamaica. >> oh, and dr. core bit, i think you have a family connection with there? >> i do, i do. my brother-in-law is from jamaica. so, i am very excited that matthew is going to be able to experience jamaica. i told him i will hop in his suitcase -- [laughs] because i need a break. >> kizzy corbett is a part of your life. now >>, yes sir,. what do you want to say to kids he today? she worked years, and years to develop this vaccine. she worked very hard, more than over time when covid-19 hit, figuring out exactly how to build the vaccine that you got today, the moderna vaccine. what do you want to say to her about the work she has done? >> i want to say thank you.
>> oh. >> you are very much appreciated. you are saving the world. >> thank you. thank you for being vaccinated. [laughs] that's really it, right? i could've made a vaccine, but if no one took, it would've mattered. it's really at this point, the duty is on the people being vaccinated. so, thank you. >> kizzy what would you like to ask matthew and john at this point in their experience? you know, i just want to be -- in the same way you got your information and transported it to your mom, i wanna make sure that if people ask you questions about the vaccine, that you are transparent, that you are honest, and you remind people of all the information you got that day in the town hall, so that we can keep this snowball effect going and continue to keep getting people vaccinated in the same way. >> matthew, what will you tell your friends and family if
they're wondering about getting the vaccine? >> [laughs] it should get done, it's not that bad. it's not that bad. >> not that bad. that's the review, so far. matthew mallory, i cannot thank you enough. first of all for coming to the town hall, you've been a great lesson for so many millions of people now. dr. joan cephas, matthew's mother, thank you very much for joining him today. docked kizzy corbett we will never, ever, be able to thank you enough. thank you once again for joining us, and doing this today. doctor kizzy corbett, thank you so much. this has been a great day. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> and when we come back, you will see once again, just how easy it is to get this vaccine. we will salute the thousands of
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to get my first shot of the moderna vaccine, i was in awe of what i saw. a massive public health campus had sprung up virtually overnight, and became the biggest covid-19 vaccination center in the world. it was the work of shaun penn, and his group core community organized relief effort. shaun penn was there making sure 10,000 vaccinations a day were being delivered without a hitch. i think everyone involved in delivering that vaccine into my arm that day, student nurse -- was especially gracious. the words of thanks i said, did not match the enormity of the gravity i felt. hundreds of thousands of people who were doing something else with their lives, have changed course this year to deliver
these lifesaving vaccines into our arms. they all deserve a very long standing ovation from all of us today. one of them got that standing ovation at a walgreens. if you haven't been vaccinated, peel ease watch this video we are about to show you, of dr. joan cephas getting her vaccine today. he will see start to finish, just how easy it is. if you have been vaccinated, this is your chance to join in the standing ovation for the heroic work of the vaccinators, who are saving our lives. >> i will just clean your arm off. [laughs] all right, are you all set? >> yes. you are all done. >> thank you so much. >> absolutely.
[laughs] -- did you plan? that >> perfect, i love it. thank you. we do have vaccines cards for you. both you will have to bring this to you -- to us for your next dose. we will ask you to stay in the store for about 15 minutes, that way if you have any questions, or if you feel light-headed, anything like that, just let us know that it's happening. >> okay? >> okay. >> thank you so much, congratulations. you are almost there. >> pharmacist ashley echoes gets tonight last word. that word is thank, you thank you to all the vaccinators all around the world who are saving lives every day. please go to vaccines.gov, and make your appointment to get vaccinated. the 11th hour with brian williams starts now. starts now.
and good evening once again, day 121 of the biden administration which has just gone through its first major foreign policy test. just four hours ago, an unconditional cease fire between israel and hamas, went into effect to the sound of silence. the end of the explosions was broken only by the sound of celebrations in gaza. [applause] [noise] sure beats the alternative. the truth comes after some 11 days of rocket attacks, air strikes, and brutal fighting on the ground. the fighting claimed hundreds of lives, and all an rendered much of gas,