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and people who live in our country are looking for. >> labor secretary marty walsh, former mayor of boston, we appreciate your time. >> thank you. >> that is all in on this thursday night to the racial maddow starts now. good evening, ali. od evening, ali. at hole for joining us. rachel has a well earned night off this evening. and i kind of can't believe i'm saying these words out loud.nd in 1993, members of congress had an ice cream party. it led to one of the greatest c-span banners in all of c-span history. capitol hill ice cream party. it was supposed to be an opportunity for members of congress to mingle with members of the ice cream industry to, i don't know, promote ice cream ot something.n' this is not a joke. this actually happened. there was a sundae building contest. the guy on the 11th went on to be trump's national intention, building the best ice cream
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sundae. this ice cream social for elected adults, it was one particular senator's dream comed true. >> double mint ice cream. >> all right. a little hard to hear but let's freeze it here. this is perhaps the most joe biden thing i've ever seen. delaware senator joe biden at an event on the hill, gently ribbing his senate colleague before absolutely going to town on an ice cream cone.e he's been a senator, a vice president and now a president himself. there is been a lot of change in his political career over the years, but the one constant is b that joe biden really, really loves ice cream. b he talks about it literally all
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the time. he visited the headquarters of an ice cream company when he was vice president. em, i eat more ice cream than three other people you would like to be with all at once. i have no idea what that actually means, but i like to think of it as joe biden's, i don't know, his default mode. no matter what's going on. if as he senator, a sitting president, no matter what crisis is sitting on his plate. just get that man a cone. >> what is your message to republicans who are prepared to block the january 6th commission? >> eat some chocolate chocolate chip. on a commission? i think it has been -- i can't imagine anyone voting against the establishment of a commission on the greatest assault since the civil war on
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the capitol. but at any rate, ice cream. >> i came for the ice cream. that was the president today, making a very on brand emergency ice cream pit stop after giving a speech on the economy in ohio. and i know the president really wanted to focus on that chocolate chip cone but the news out of d.c. today was so tense and so toxic that it trailed him all the way to that sweet little ice cream shop in ohio this afternoon. tanoh seriously, back in washington today, the senate, any moment now is expected to take a vote on the january 6th commission. a bipartisan 9/11 style commission that would investigate the attack on the u.s. capitol earlier this year m to looking into how our democracy almost fell that day to make sure it can never happen that vote could come tonight. it's not clear when it will
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happen. senate republicans have been signaling for weeks that they wouldn't support this kind of investigation.ubul the majority leader mitch mcconnell appeared to shut down the prospect of a commission entirely when he, too, came outp against the bill last week. the foregone conclusion of this vote got turned upside down today because of this woman. her name is gladys sicknick. the mother of the fallen capitol police officer brian sicknick who died the day after he was assaulted by rioters while defending the capitol. earlier this week, gladys sicknick asked to meet with g every single republican senator on the hill to urge them to vote yes onseting up a commission to look into what happened that day. she said failing to do so would be a, quote, slap in the faces a of all the office here's did their jobs that day. and today, on the day they were supposed to vote on this thing, she went door to door with officer sicknick's long time partner and two other law enforcement officers who were there that day basically beggine republicans to vote to set up this commission. >> in your statement, you said it would be a slap in the face if there is not a commission.mis
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do you think you can change minds today? >> i hope so. i hope so. brian had a work ethic like second to none. he was just there for our country and for these guys. and he was just doing his job and he got caught up in it and it is very sad. >> does it anger you, mrs. ashe sicknick, the senators who do not support this commission and what you feel? >> usually i stay in the ee background and i couldn't stay quiet anymore. >> 15 republican senators agreed to meet with mrs. sicknick today. a handful of others invited her to meet with their staff. the rest, they said no.puto they wouldn't meet with officer sicknick's mother to discuss the
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creation of a commission to study the attack on january 6th. the vote on whether to investigate the insurrection attempt is expected to fail. when it finally does come to a h vote with only these three republican senators openly supporting it right now. seven more republicans would have to sign on to get the 60 votes it needs to pass. this is just to investigate what happened on january 6th. for his part, mitch mcconnell has reportedly been whipping votes against the commission. cnn said they have been asked t vote no as a personal favor. mcconnell has told his caucus that an investigation into the insurrection attempt would be bad politics for republicans heading into the 2022 mid-terms which very well might be true, as long as the republican partyh continues on cling to the big lie that the election was somehow stolen from donald trump in 2020. rachel, as you know, has been doing extensive reporting about the so-called election you had s in it arizona's largest county
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where republicans have ordered a recount of more than 2 million presidential ballots under the false pre tenses that there was something fraudulent about the results. a kind of bogaerts third party, legislatures in michigan and georgia all ordering their gi-called audits as an attempt to cast doubt on the legitimacy of the election. we just got news of a new one in wisconsin. the republican speaker of the house in wisconsin has just hired a group of former police officers to investigate the november election in wisconsin last year. a state that joe biden won. he says the investigators will have three months and a wide authority to review any and all tips they get about potential e fraud in the election. em, quote, is there a whole lot of smoke or is there actual fire?
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we just don't know yet. end quote. of course we know. there is no smoke and there is certainly no fire. but republicans are running two sticks together anywhere they can and create important smoke and distrust.ea it is a subtler way at chipping away at the bed rock of our democracy. one that doesn't involve using american flags as battering rams to break into the united states capitol. the same goes for the attack on voting rights in this country. since joe biden was elected president, republican controlled states have pushed through a oer number of bills that make it harder for people to vote. particularly people of the latest one to try it was ar texas. they passed a bill that would ban elections officials from mailing absentee ballots to voters, even absentee ballot applications, unless voters specifically requested them. it would ban drive-through voting. the bill sets new penalties for people who try to help other people vote. it would give more leeway to partisan poll watch here's could intimidate and harass people on
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the way to the polls. we're now waiting on the final n version of that bill to be released to the public. we have no idea what the final bill test. it will be voted on one more time in the senate. that is expected imminently as early as tomorrow or saturday. then it goes on the fast track to the governor's desk who is expected to sign that without delay. one example. the kind of bill going around america, the kinds of bills going around america right now in republican-controlled states and legislatures. joining us now, beto o'rourke, the founder of powered by people. a grassroots organization working to mobilize voters in ps amerteg texas. also joining us from houston. judge lena hidalgo, the chief executive in the most populous county in texas.
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congressman, let me start with you. you've been fighting this for a long time, before americans knew this was a thing. this idea of creating an environment and support for people to vote who either hadn't traditionally voted or have faced things that made it harder to vote. people ask me, how is this racist? how is this bad? if the same rules my to everybody, why are these changes proposed in texas bad for voting? >> that's part of what is so pernicious about this. this is all taking place under the guise of standardizing our elections.nahi woptial who could be against that? we might have asked the same question about ourselves 100 years ago. won't that my to everybody? how many gumballs are in the jar?
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what we know is that these are all efforts at suppressing the votes. not all texans in our state but certain texans and historicallye that has been black texans, more recently, latinos and other communities of color. we see it in big cities like the metropolitan county, harris county, where judge hidalgo has done such an extraordinary job, for republicans and otherwise. it is a piece of the big lie and what happened on the 6th of january. this effort to change the rules of our elections to be able to consolidate the hold on power republicans have in states like georgia and florida. it has passed the house of representatives and is penning of the senate and all it lacks o is the senate to the white house and the american people those in positions of public trust listen to. this is our moment of truth. >> and i want to talk about the
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for the people act. good to see you the texas tribune talks about the number of polling places. it reads democratic areas, they will see a drastic drop in polling places under the senate version of senate bill 7.em a a texas tribune analysis shows. let's explain what this means. there used to be this idea that people should vote near their ed homes. when i vote a few blocks from my home and there are all sorts of issues with that. sometimes the line-ups are long. people vote close to their homes. that's not the case. it's 2021. we've got a rover on mars and yet we are reducing the number of places people can vote at. >> right. and the motive behind these bilf comes clear through these provisions that have been shown, that tribune article shows, to be reducing polling locations in minority neighborhoods. what it does, it micromanages the ways counties like ours can
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distribute polling locations and voting machines, and the end result of it is fewer locations in minority neighborhoods, and c long lines. we have innovated to all but eliminate lines. we don't know what will come out of this because it is happening behind closed doors.e but irrespective of what passes, the simple idea that they're making policy based on a lie that there was election fraud on a massive scale. that in and of itself length credence to that lie that it weakens our own democracy standing abroad. so when folks ask, what's worse? what's best?ichea d ceenfo the concept itself is so dangerous.ep it will have enormous effects, that it is not happening only here in texas but so many places. they are not about to give up even if this passes. this won't be the end of the
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>> let's talk about the for the people act. to some people who never had any trouble voting, it may be an abstraction. a number of things that the act will address. three of them are directly about the things that you're seeing in texas. strengthening mail voting systems, preventing unreasonable wait times at the polls, against deceptive practices. these are things meant to spread the idea that everybody who is qualified to vote in this country should vote. we should think that's a good thing. and sb 1, the for the people act, would be the kind of thing that would mean that those federal rules and standards can be applied across the country. >> that's right. and if you see as we connect thh dots in these 47 states that have more than 361 voter
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suppression bills, either past or pending, the great attack on democracy since the voting rights act of 1965, in other words, trying to take us back to jim crow.ct we need a commensurate response like that voting rights act. that's the for the people. it has passed the house of copresentatives. it is pending in the senate. and then there is this. if like me you are sick and tired of members of congress choosing their votes instead of the other way around. the gerrymandering in texas. this would set up redistricting commissions so there is a fair and level playing field. fair maps from which we can choose those who will represent us. that's good for republicans.
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that's good for democrats. that's just good for americans. >> for democracy.t and that's why we've got to get this passed. if we fail to do this and we only have this summer to do this work and get it passed. we don't only lose this window this year or this cycle. we might very well, given the threats against us that we saw on display on january 6th. we might very well lose this democracy forever. it is that important. so let's all commit ourselves to doing all we can to get this passed and urging president biden to make this his number one priority. >> judge, the texas naacp took out an ad in the austin american statesman on the 21st in which we says, the bill's use of poll oss t ou watchers with impunity, even authorized to record a person's is n vote or getting their personal i space, is design for nothing other than intimidation of voters of we've seen the intimidation tactics used to keep people of color from the polls and we will not fail them now. this is one of the things we'ren seeing in texas and other places.n tacit or explicit intimidation of voters. how do you overcome this, if not just in fighting these pieces of legislation? how do you get people to understand, this is your right
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guaranteed under the constitution. you cannot be bullied out of your right to vote. ganon >> what the naacp said is not ag exaggeration. proposed under the senate bill was to have poll watchers be able to record voters as they'rr casting their vote and make it a misdemeanor for poll workers to. so as stand in the line of sight. so so much of this, it goes beyond the pale. there are obstacles to voting, voters with disabilities. the fight is still on. we need that recognition that this is about democracy.anche rh the democracy we're proud of and that makes our country what it is. once something passes, it in the we've given authority to our county office, giving him what he needs to file to fight voter suppression o even now, it really does land at the footsteps of the federal government.,
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i feel a responsibility to continue the legacy of lyndon b. johnson who passed the voting rights act. as americans, all of us need to feel responsibility to protect the democracy that people died for. not just the time of mlk but fighting our wars abroad. that so many have come to this country and searched for. it is not worth any political caeledngmay these republicans ho are scoring. our democracy is not worth that. this is not just a partisan political fight. this needs to be able to stay above partisanship. because it is about our ability to have a democracy and we can't weaken it by making policy based on a lie. right now is the time to keep fighting. it is not the time to regret. we have to keep pushing. >> our democracy is not worth that. harris county judge leyna hidalgo, beto o'rourke from texas. thank you both for joining us tonight. more to get to. a criminal investigation to help the 2020 campaign.
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there is a police officer here just to support the sicknick family and officer dunn as well and u.s. capitol police. as someone who responded to january 6th, i'm here to educate senators about my experiences that day. and as an american i'm here to advocate for the commission because i want to see congress come together in a bipartisan fashion and really get to the bottom of january 6th.
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i think it is necessary for us to heal as a nation from the trauma that we all experienced that day. that's why i think it is so important. >> it's been excruciating, you know? it was very hard to deal with the ambiguity of not knowing what happened to brian. facts are facts. if they look at the footage that happened, it is very obvious that was not a peaceful day. the police officers were getting attacked, beaten, fire extinguishers were thrown at them. they were being attacked by flag poles. it wasn't a tourist day. wasn't just tourists walking by. >> if january 6th didn't happen, brian would still be here plain and simple. >> that was two of the capitol police officers who responded to the january 6th attack on the capitol. speaking today with the life partner of brian sicknick the day after. he also engaged with the mob that attacked the capitol. that first officer you saw, officer michael fanone suffered a heart attack that day after he was pushed boo the crowd, beaten and tased with a stun gun. that group was on capitol hill today to meet with republican senators they protected that day, urging them to approve a bipartisan commission to
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investigate the events of january 6th. the senate will likely vote on whether to approve the commission tonight. republicans are expected to block that. joining me now, michigan democratic senator gary peters. chair of the senate homeland committee and the governmental affairs committee. good to see you. you are there. what is your latest expectation or understanding about when this vote will take place and how it will go? >> i think it will be later tonight. we're dealing with another piece of legislation, and we're going to be working on both probably late into the night or perhaps early morning friday. >> we believe that 28 republican senators are going to oppose the commission. we believe that three republicans are agreeing to support it. nine have not said what they are going to do, including three who voted to impeach donald trump.
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so what is your sense of hope of getting another seven senators to agree with this investigation? >> well, certainly my hope is there. it is essential in my mind that we do have this commission. we need to get all of the facts. here we had this singular event. an attack on the capitol. an attack on our democracy. it is important to know exactly what happened. how or why it happen. we want to make sure this never happens again.
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clearly, there are many questions that people have, still unanswered. the american people deserve to have those answers. >> you know, hearing from those officers, and the family of brian sicknick. some of your republican colleagues absolutely refused to meet with her. some said you can meet with my staff and a few did agree to meet with her. do you think that has an impact? watching them talk, not in a private setting, even to the public. you can't help but think, do we not owe it to these people, or the families of these people torsion at least give them an investigation. we're not pre determining what the outcome is. >> i don't know how you can say no. the office here's put their life on the line. we're dealing with an incredibly violent acts by this crowd that was acting here. they certainly deserve to have answers as to what were the leadership failures. clearly the leadership of the rank and file messages of the
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police failed. the men and women who work here. quite frankly, defending our democracy which was a constitutional procedure that was during on that day. and the american people deserve that. the whole country was spell bound watching the events at the capitol. we need to have those answers. it is just about facts. it is about getting the facts. doing it in a nonpartisan way. similar to what we did in the 9/11 commission which we needed to get the facts of that horrific event that everybody was glued to the tv, watching that attack on the twin towers. the same singular event here. we need to get the facts. what we're seeing from a majority of republican senators is that they simply do not want to know the facts. and i think the reason they do not want to know the facts is because they know the facts are not with them. and they're afraid of what those facts will say. so really, a sad testament to where we are as a country where we can't come together and determine what facts were
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involved in a horrific attack on our democracy. >> there's a way out of that for republicans to say, that happened and that is not going to be our future. strangely, we've heard reports that mitch mcconnell has been phoning people and say, do this as a personal favor to me. if this comes out at the end of the year, we get into 2022, an election year, and apparently, republicans think this will be bad for their election prospects. but there is a way that it doesn't have to be. >> well, i think it is about getting the facts out and finding out what happened. this should not be about politics. this is bigger than politics. when you have a mob that descends on the united states capitol and attempts to basically engage in an insurrection against the government, this is when we all have to rise above our petty politics. this is not about political power for one party or another. this is literally about our democratic republic. if republicans are unwilling to do that, i would certainly hope that there would be some repercussions that the american
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people will say, we expect more of our elected officials. particularly when it comes to a fundamental question about protecting our constitution. something that each and every one of us took an oath to defend the constitution. this is time to say, when the constitution was attacked, we want to know why. we want to get to the facts and we want to do everything we can to make sure that it never, ever happens again. >> senator, good to see you. we'll watch this very, very closely tonight in anticipation of a vote. gary peters who is also the chair of the senate homeland security committee. whether this goes through or not, this is a man who will be dealing with this matter for some time. up next, breaking news about a new investigation into foreign interference into the 2020 election to help donald trump. that and much more. stay with us. tonight we've got breaking
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tonight we've got breaking news about efforts to interfere in the 2020 presidential election. the "new york times" reports that federal prosecutors in brooklyn, new york, are investigating whether several current and former ukrainian officials, quote, helped orchestrate a wide ranging plan to meddle in the 2020 campaign including using the former president's personal lawyer,
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rudy giuliani, to spread their misleading claims about president biden and tilt the election in donald trump's favor. end quote. the times reports the investigation in the eastern district of new york which began in the final months of the trump presidency is separate from the southern district of new york's investigation into giuliani. as the times notes, while the two investigations have a similar cast of characters, and overlamb in some ways, mr. giuliani isn't a subject of the brooklyn investigation. according to people with knowledge in the matter. andre who met repeatedly with giuliani and which who the u.s. government describes as the agent of the russian intelligence services is the focus of the brooklyn investigation according to the times. we'll follow this as it
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develops. but this comes as new reporting from mother jones magazine shows that donald trump's long time money man and cfo, allen weisselberg already in the cross hairs of the criminal investigation also appears to be tied to a separate civil investigation in d.c. the magazine reports that previously unnoticed emails attached to a court filing last year show that weisselberg is involved in the trump inauguration case currently being investigated by the washington, d.c. attorney general. the crux of that investigation is whether trump's presidential inaugural committee and the trump organization coordinated
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to use inauguration funds to enrich the trump family by grossly overpaying for event space at its d.c. hotel. emails show weisselberg was called in to oversee the audit after the call for huge always of money raised and where it could have been spent. asked why weisselberg would be involved in the inaugural committee's internal audit, given that he was the cfo of the company allegedly benefitting from the grift, rick gates, you'll remember him. that he was great number. of course, his fluency with trump's finances is part of why there's a cloud of nerves hovering, since news broke that a special grand jury is convened in the manhattan investigation. said one trump adviser, the fact that they're dealing with the numbers guy who has plain details makes people more nervous. as far as we go, weisselberg's part in the investigation is not a line of inquiry currently being pursued by investigators in the manhattan district attorney's office. but he certainly appears to be feeling the squeeze as the main focus of prosecutors' inquiries. today, weisselberg's exdaughter-in-law who has supplied the. did. a's office with boxes of documents told another network
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that weisselberg has served her an eviction notice after she has continued to speak out about what she knows. >> has there been any back lash or retribution? >> yes, yes. allen weisselberg is on my lease. yesterday i was served to leave my apartment within the next seven days. so that's a threat. a threat. there's definitely tax fraud. definitely tax evasion. i think that there is a lot of, for the first time, they seem really nervous. >> that news today comes as former prosecutors and legal experts tell politico that manhattan d.a. cy vance could be considering a criminal charge that says the trump organization is a corrupt enterprise under a new york law resembling the federal racketeering statute known as rico. that new york law called the enterprise corruption statute and sometimes called little rico can be invoked with as little as three crimes involved and can
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carry a prison term of up to 25 years, along with a mandatory minimum of one to three years. abc news and cnn have already reported that several witnesses have already been contacted about appearing in front of the special grand jury with at least one told to be prepared to testify. one of the people quoted in the washington postal's tuesday night school about the existence of that special grand jury was rebecca, a former district attorney in manhattan, who said prosecutors in her former office were unlikely to take this key step without evidence, and probable cause to believe that someone committed a crime. joining me now, rebecca, a professor at new york law school who previously served as an stand district attorney in the manhattan office. thank you for being with us. we have a lot to sort of pick apart here. first of all, tell me, with the idea of the special grand jury, people being invited to talk to them.
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and one reportedly being asked to be prepared to testify. that means testify beyond and outside of the grand jury's deliberations. >> right, exactly. this just shows that the investigation has proceeded beyond this early phase when they were gathering information and sending out subpoenas. there was obviously a grand jury then. now it is convened to hear actual evidence from witnesses, and you know, in new york, the grand jury really isn't used in quite the same way as in federal practice. so this stage really indicates that they've moved on and are hopefully thinking about charging somebody at the end of it. which means they are couldn't vinced they have a criminal case. >> what do you make of where that criminal case could be going? we're seeing evidence about weisselberg, we're seeing, we assume that he has been invited to participate in this process, whatever that means.
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who is the target? and how do you think, or how does your experience suggest to you that they're working toward a final goal here? >> right. it's a dangerous business to try to read tea leaves into this kind of thing because grand jury practice is so complicated and also, all secret. so i don't really know. you're right. that the public reporting makes it look as if weisselberg is at
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the center of all of this and it seems statements that michael cohen has said, his former fixer, this is the person who knows everything. he knows where all the bodies are buried. so one possible strategy they could have would be to charge him and charge him with a lot. putting a lot of pressure on him to then cooperate and give up somebody else. and there is nobody else that he could be giving up other than donald trump. so that is one possibility but it is really unclear and hard to know. >> what do we, there was a time when we all knew about rico stuff. we would talk about gangsters and mafia and political corruption. what do we know about this new york law, this so-called little rico? >> yeah. so one thing, just to back up a second. one thing people are speculating that they might be bringing this kind of case because new york, new york's criminal laws having to do with white collar crime a little different from the federal ones and imperfect in some ways. the ones easier to prove in cases like this carry lower sentences. i can see why people are thinking, they must be thinking about higher sentences. that rico charge would carry something more like 25 years, rather than four years, the falsification of business records or a scheme to defraud. those are easier to prove. the rico statute is not dissimilar from federal rico but it really wasn't designed for this situation. you can kind of imagine what
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throwbacks would be charging something like that. if you bite off more than you can chew as a prosecutor, you lose credibility. so there is this problem that maybe they'll charge something like this. the jury might look at them and think, are you serious? you're saying all of trump organization is criminal, he's our former president. is that possible? and you don't want to play into the hands of his rhetoric which is like, this is politically motivated. so i don't know how i would split that baby. it's true also that you want to build as good a case as you can. >> and that's why we continue to hear from people like who have had experience with stuff like this. the prosecutors dealing with this won't be motivated by politics. if they don't have the ability to bring a case and likely succeed in that case, we won't see a case. thank you for being with us.
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a professor at new york law school and former manhattan assistant district attorney. still ahead, democrats in congress trying to decide how much longer they'll allow republicans to stand in the way of some very popular proposals before they and the president decide to go it alone.
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even my republican friends in congress, not a single one of them voted for the rescue plan. i'm not going to embarrass any of them but i have here a list of how back in their districts, they're bragging about the rescue plan. >> president biden in cleveland, ohio, highlighting the last big piece of legislation he passed. the covid relief bill which he passed without a single republican vote. which was so overwhelmingly popular that now republicans can't help but pretend they had something to do with it. at the same time, president biden is planning to continue negotiating with republicans on the next piece of his legislative agenda. his multitrillion-dollar
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infrastructure plan, blowing through his own self-imposed dead line of wrapping up negotiations by memorial day. and here's the thing puzzling to me about that. today, senate republicans unveiled their counter proposal. the sticker price is $900 billion. less than half of what biden's original proposal called for. and it takes out a bunch of the most popular parts of the bill. that sticker price is sort of an illusion. more than $600 billion of those dollars are already in the federal budget, and scheduled to be spent on infrastructure projects, bill or no bill. so republicans are only proposing $257 billion here, which is not at all close to the more than $2 trillion biden originally proposed. they're also completely swapped how the plan would be paid for. a poll last month out of monmouth university found more than 64% of americans supported biden's plan to pay for the bill by raising taxes on corporations and 65% supported his plan to pay for it by raising taxes on
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individuals making more than $400,000 a year. instead of doing that, republicans want to to top it all off by lowering the spending this much, they gutted the most popular part that would fund the care economy like group homes and aid. dropping the proposals around clean energy which 64% of voters are likely to vote. we know from their track record, they will vote against the bill in the end and take credit anyway. why is biden still at the negotiating table. joining us now, the representative from washington.
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thank you for being with us. i put that question to you. with the relief bill or act, the aim thing happened. still no republicans voted for. >> that's right, ali. this was an embarrassing counter offer. it is all smoke and mirrors. if you bided on a house and put in an offer that was 17% of what the asking price was, you would be laughed out of the street. this is a wait wags where the president wanted to show for some of the more conservatives in the senate that he's making an effort for the republicans. the reality is that they are going to drag this out for a long time.
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they have not budged. they are not offering anything so far remotely connected. the time has run out. we need to move forward. similar to the rescue plan that got more and more popular and extremely popular as people are getting shots in their arms and here is another place where the american jobs and family plan is extremely popular. we need to make sure we have extremely populous things. none of that moves forward if we don't quickly say to the republicans, we are din negotiating, you haven't reduced anything in good faith.
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we need to deliver for the american people. they expect us to and it is urgent. >> as they inch towards each other and at this pace, it will take many, many months to get close to a deal. the president decides this isn't worth it. does he settle or do we go back to the original proposal was in the case of the jobs plan and infrastructure bill? >> this was a mistake they made during the obama administration. they negotiated. they came down significantly and went along and voted for it either. then we saw no package was what we need to do from our economy. the people around him have learned from that less on. he had said multiple times, the
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problem will not be that we go too big, the problem will be that we go too small. we go back to the original proposal. we are calling for an even bigger proposal and combine the jobs and families plan and do it as a once in a generation investment that gets care to people and infrastructure to all of the forms of people that fixes schools and water system so much more. we give hope back as we create jobs and allow families to thrive and survive. >> congresswoman, thanks for joining us. congresswoman from washington, the chair of the caucus. thank you. one more story to get to tonight. some very welcome good news. we'll be right back with it. ♪♪
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weekend, the unofficial start to summer, president biden reaching for a goal of vaccines. 65% of the demographic having one shot. in an effort of raising numbers, all sorts of states are coming up with incentives. free beer in new jersey. a $100 savings bond in west virginia. a pound of free krau phish crawfish. no way to know from this data if all of these people were persuaded by the cash but has
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changed the trend line in ohio. rather than a decline, the trend is moving upward. if the promise of a large amount of money gets people vaccinated, we are all amount of money gets more people, then we're all winners. developing news overnight from the senate floor as republicans stage a marathon session that now delayed a key vote on whether or not to create a bipartisan commission to investigate the capitol riot. when will that take place? and counter proposals on the white house infrastructure plan. is the president willing to shift money from the covid relief package? president biden making a surprise stop at an ice cream shop in ohio and it w