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3.5 trillion is not something to blink at. but bernie sanders, he wanted initially something closer to $6 trillion, looks like he's not going to get that. he has to bow to reality and come down from that number just to be realistic with what a lot of moderate democratic senators would do because they need every single democratic senator to vote for this package for it to pass. >> all right. thanks for being up early with us. we appreciate it. one other thing to watch this week and through the summer is voting rights. sources close to senator joe manchin say that he understands it's likely to come up again. it is going to come to a head, and there are some signs that he is thinking about ways in which to make a filibuster more painful for the person who decides they want to implement it right now. it doesn't take very much skin in the game to do it. so that's something i'm keeping a close eye on as we get started
this week. thank you for getting up "way too early" with us this morning. don't go anywhere, "morning joe" starts now. you had such love at the rally, they were there for one reason. the rigged election. they felt the election was rigged. that's why they were there. they were peaceful people, they were great people. the crowd was unbelievable. and i mention the word love, the love in the air i've never seen anything like it. >> former president trump speaking yesterday with fox news, continuing to frame what happened on january 6th in a far different light than reality. as we know, he directed many of those so-called great people -- >> the great people that were beating police officers with american flags, that our troops had fought to defend for 240 years. they used that american flag to
bludgeon, nearly to death, police officers. >> right. and he told them to go to the capitol and get tougher on congress, to stop the certification. he told them -- >> and, of course, don junior said something about, we're coming to get you. we're coming to get you, and it's going to be fun. you had rudy giuliani on the same stage talking about combat justice. >> yep. >> combat justice. and this is exactly what donald trump and his minions were calling for. so this is his definition of good people. and mika, what happened after donald trump went back to the white house after he let lose this riot on the united states capitol -- >> happy. he was watching on tv. in fact, even in the tent after his speech he was watching on the monitors, members of his family were hugging and doing
little dances. >> and according to one republican senator, donald trump was actually delighted and thrilled by what he was seeing. you had kevin mccarthy calling him while these so-called good people were breaking into the capitol and budgening police officers and calling for the hanging of mike pence, donald trump was cheering it on and would not call in reinforcements. >> this morning we have new video that was released by the justice department. officers being brutally beaten by capitol rioters while trying to help someone who had collapsed. that is just ahead. >> they were trying to save a life, by the way. save the life of a rioter, and other rioters beat and bludgeoned them for trying to save her life.
plus more than a dozen guns and thousands of rounds of ammunition found in a hotel room near the upcoming all-star game. what were they plotting? we're following news from cuba where thousands of demonstrators joined anti-government protests there. amid the worsening pandemic. >> how's that workers' paradise working out for you? you know, with or without castros down there, it's still a communist tyranny. and it is about time that people are released from tyranny. >> we'll talk about how the government is responding. and sir richard branson wins the first of the space race beating jeff bezos to become the first person to blast off in his own spaceship. is this the launch of the space tourism industry?
also with us on this monday, july 12th, we have white house reporter -- >> is that a scene out of austin powers 4? i don't know. >> -- jonathan lemire joins us and also edward luis joins us. >> edward, how are your parents doing? how are you doing? how is england doing? >> well, i'm grateful to say -- good morning to you. i'm grateful to say that my parents have zero interest in soccer. so they probably rate as the least depressed people in this country right now because they're utterly unconcerned by the result. the rest of us have seen this movie too many times to recall. it's a classic pattern, england go, take an early lead and then they spend the rest of the game
doing a sort of dunkirk operation, trying to defend that early lead and then eventually in an all-too-predictable penalty shoot out. last night was deja vu all over again. it's almost rereassuring, the world carries on. >> comfort zone. >> that's how it should be. >> it is brutal even here state side. i have too much english blood in me. it was -- my son and i were mourning this loss last night. it really was -- and again, it's one of the more loathsome sides in international football, italy, who committed at least one or two red cards and the ref was saying, you know, no decapitations, no fouls. that seemed to be the rule last
night. jonathan lemire, i was so heart broken that i could hardly crack a smile when mike called and reminded me that there were actually happy things happening on fields and pitches across the world. that the new york yankees gave up six runs in the last inning to lose to the houston astros. i don't know, that's like the soviet union being invaded by nazi germany. are there any winnings there? >> that's right. it's the measles versus mumps conundrum. >> maybe that's better. i retract my statement. but go ahead. >> we'll take a devastating yankees loss. i saw a stat yesterday, the entirety of the major league baseball season only two games in which there was a team with a five or six runner lead and
lost. the yankees did it both time. that was a thriller soccer tournament. my condolences to ed and his family, even if they don't care. predictable english result, though. the place was shaking. we saw tens of thousands of fans that just wanted to be near it and went into violence. but there was a spirited celebration two minutes in for the goal that gave england the early lead. just devastating for the young kids, they missed the penalty shots at the end, couldn't have been more than 20 years old, sobbing on the field, knowing the whole nation was sobbing with them. >> you have rashford who has experience in there, who obviously played at top level for some time but he wasn't playing much in the tournament. and the 19-year-old kid who
unfortunately had to take the last shot, it would be like bringing up somebody from triple a and pushing them into a seventh game of a world series with bases loaded and say go in there. and, of course, garrett is taking a lot of heat for putting these kids in at the very end. and just horrific racial abuse being showered on them, which, of course, makes it a terrible situation even worse. but we'll talk to roger bennett about that. the newly sworn in american, who, of course, i'm sure is still filled with a good bit of self-loathing as an englishman watching football on the international level. >> we'll do that in a moment but now we want to return to that newly released video from january 6th. the justice department on friday releasing video of officers being brutally beaten by capitol
rioters while trying to help someone who had collapsed. it shows officers in a tunnel outside of the capitol, trying to make their way to a rioter who was later found to have died of a drug overdose. one appears to be dragged by his helmet into the crowd, where court documents say he was then stripped of his gear and beaten with weapons. a second officer is pulled back and forth between attackers and a colleague trying to rescue him. video from the body camera shows him being stomped, kicked and beaten by the rioters with weapons. prosecutors identify the attacker as jack whitten, who was charged with several felonies and has not yet entered a plea. he is also seen on camera threatening an officer's life
according to prosecutors. >> you're going to die tonight. >> someone -- the quote is, you're going to die tonight. >> ed luce, these are the same people -- these are the rioters, these are the thugs that donald trump yesterday called good people and an attempt to try to rewrite history. calling these rioters and these people that were beating up and abusing law enforcement officers, called them good people. it was really -- talk about an orwellian weekend, a bizarre weekend of lies spread, you also had republicans gathered, cheering on the fact that less than 90% of americans were vaccinated. cheering on the lack of vaccinations in this country. again just sad, frightening times and for those progressives that say the republican party has always been this way, no, no, it really hasn't.
republicans actually vaccinated their children and sent them to schools with five vaccinations for decades and decades. and again, this is just -- it seems we took another step towards a more dangerous, more authoritarian, more ill liberal republican party over the past weekend. >> it does. it seems like an age ago that we were saying, after january the 6th, that the fever might now have finally broken because of what people like mcconnell were saying and mccarthy were saying. we thought maybe this is the final straw that breaks the camel's back. it's gone the exact opposite direction. and unfortunately it's continuing as we heard from trump, not just his republican enablers but his media enablers. i know it's probably not kosher to attack your competitors but
maria barton, what is she doing enabling him. she would not be in place working for chinese state television to enable this kind of lying. to say there was love in the air when people were beating police officers to death. when people were seeking out both republican and democratic leaders for violent punishment and possibly lynching. when they were brandishing the confederate flag on capitol hill. and we have a president -- a former president, the former guy as some people call him, describing this as an atmosphere of love in the air. and media enablers spreading this message. i have to say, this kind of thing will happen again unless the consequences are not severe -- they have to be severe. the department of justice has to
treat this as a defcon situation because american democracy is at stake. >> yeah, they do. federal judges have to treat this as dangerously as a situation as it is and not hand down light sentences. this was a full-on riot. this was an insurrection. if they look up the definition of conspiracy to commit sedition, it can't line up more tightly and neatly than this. this is a riot that is meant to do one thing, at the president's guidance, to stop the count. to stop the count of the electoral college that was going on inside this building, and they were willing to try to beat police officers to death, to bludgeon them with american flags. to do anything they could do, including calling for the hanging of the vice president to stop this count.
well, this is -- perhaps these are just signs of more things to come. there are many people concerned about what's happening out of denver where police arrested four people and removed weapons and ammunition from a hotel room near the denver stadium that's set to host mlb's all-star game which, of course, is controversial this year because of donald trump and other people on the trump right attacking it for not being held in atlanta, georgia. police feared a las vegas style shooting during the game after receiving a tip from a housekeeper working at the hotel near coors field. the employee discovered more than a dozen weapons and more than a thousand rounds of ammunition in one of the rooms. three men and one woman were arrested friday night in connection to the incident. and the fbi released a statement sunday saying it's not aware of
any direct threats to the all-star game and doesn't know if friday's arrests were connected to the event but they have no evidence as of yet that it is. the all-star game was moved from atlanta to denver after the uproar over georgia's voting law. that led donald trump to urge fans to, quote, boycott baseball. the western part of the country is once again facing dangerously high temperatures and the heat is fuelling the wildfire risk. nbc news correspondent, erin mcloughlin has the details. >> reporter: extreme temperatures fuelling infernos across the west. in california more than twice as many acres have burned compared to the same time as last year. triggering evacuations in the northern part of the state. photographer craig fillpont
captured the conditions as a small towned burned. >> it's weeks and weeks dryer than it should be this year. >> reporter: the fire also deadly. in arizona retired fire chief and a pilot were killed in an air accident. the temperatures threatening nearly 30 million americans across the west with thermostats soaring 10 to 20 degrees above average. on saturday utah tied the hottest state record, a sizzling 117 in st. george. the same temperature as las vegas also matching a sin city record. the extreme heat pushing the extreme drought to historic levels, reduing water deliveries across the west. in utah one reservoir has completely run dry. >> this is something different. something i have never seen before.
>> let's bring in meteorologist bill karins. usually covering different weather events people say it's never been this bad. but this seems extreme, like never seen before. >> yeah, i mean, we're in mega drought category, people are calling this like a decade long drought and then it feeds itself, the soil is so dry it heats up more rapidly with climate change on top of it, it's worse than it should be. we have 95% of the west in a drought right now. this time last year it was 40%. that's a high number. this weekend, death valley, it's always hot but this was incredibly hot. friday, it was 130. so the all-time record is 134 but that was with an old device, an old type of thermometer, the reliable heat records with the standards we have now, 130 is the hottest what we call reliable temperature ever recorded on earth. some people don't think that 134
with today's equipment would have been 134. but you see the last three days, 130, 129, 128. today we're starting to slowly cool off but we still have 19 million people under heat warnings and advisories in the west. we'll still see record highs today, not all-time record highs, but easily break record highs. reno 105. fresno at 110 degrees. and our friends in the northeast we had the horrific flash flooding through the end of last week we'll do it again today and tomorrow. it's a tropical growth air mass, a lot of downpours already this morning, new york city, hartford, providence, cleveland, erie, all under flash flood watches. it's hit and miss showers and storms. watch out in new york city or this evening's rush hour, a lot of heavy rain, lightning and thunderstorms in the area and that easily could cause
significant travel delays for your forecast. yes, the east is lush and green, rivers are full, reservoirs are full, but it couldn't be more extreme compared to what we're seeing in the west. >> bill karins, thank you very much. the biden administration is responding after thousands of cubans took to the streets in what's called the biggest anti-government demonstrations in decades there. the protests erupted amid food shortages, high prices and daily blackouts as the island struggles to contain the coronavirus. it lasted about two and a half hours before it was broken up. witnesses tell "the washington post" that cuban security personnel deployed tear gas and other forms of force to disperse the crowds, multiple people were injured as authorities clashed with the demonstrators, cuba's
president now blames the united states for agitating the population. the country is going through its worst economic crisis in decades as it suffers the ongoing consequences of u.s. sanctions. a u.s. state department official released a statement on twitter reading in part, quote, peaceful protests are growing in cuba as the cuban people exercise their right to peaceful assembly to express concern about rising covid cases, deaths and medicine shortages. we commend the numerous efforts of the cuban people mobilizing donations to help neighbors in need. >> a haitian doctor with ties to florida has been arrested in connection with the assassination of the country's president. police say 63-year-old christian emmanuel was part of the plot he planned to take the presidency. the development came as the
united states arrived in haiti yesterday, some officials did, at the request of the haitian government. the biden administration said the delegation is assessing the situation to see if it can be of assistance. and jonathan lemire you had some people calling for u.s. forces to go down to haiti. that's a mistake that bill clinton began to make before actually turning the ships around as they got to the dock, i think that was in '93. i suspect that's not a mistake the biden administration is going to repeat. at the same time chaos is erupting on that island. and i'm not really sure, you know -- and the biden administration is not sure how bad this can get. so how are they weighing their options? >> so we've heard direct appeals from the haitian government asking the president to send troops to the nation to try to
stabilize things there. the u.s. has not ruled that out but they're strongly leaning against it. we heard from white house officials, pentagon officials yesterday talking to us who were with the president -- traveling with the president in delaware for the weekend, as well as on the sunday shows, pointing out that team you mentioned, fbi agents, department of homeland security agents will be in haiti the next few days and will do an assessment and report back. but they do not think that sending troops down there would be the right decision. though they are keeping a wary eye on the situation. haiti is not very far from the united states, a country that has struggled to pick itself back up after a devastating earthquake in 2010. the government, accusations being ripe with corruption, obviously there's real poverty. they're worried this could destabilize further as the investigators try to untangle what's a very murky scenario,
story, as to what led to this assassination with four nationals among those arrested, and now, of course, this man with the ties to florida. >> ed luce, haiti has seemed to be an unsolvable problem, extreme poverty for decades, extreme violence, an earthquake that made a bad situation worse. anarchy at times let lose on the island. assassination and now we find ourselves where we are today. what can the biden administration do to bring some sense of stability to an island that has just seemed to be immune to outside help and solutions? >> it's a terrible dynamic, because it's a quagmire begging for america to get sucked in. there is no sort of record of america successfully stabilizing haiti. it's been a long relationship and it's been a troubled nation
for many, many -- well, longer, centuries really. on the other hand, if the situation continues to deteriorate and there's supposed to be elections there in september, looks very unlikely the conditions to hold them are going to be ripe. if the situation continues to deteriorate and we start getting what we saw in the '90s, and since then, which is large numbers of haitians coming across to florida, coming across in boats. then it's going to be a terrible political, you know, problem for biden. and we know that the opposition is going to be exploiting that. so it's -- there's no easy solutions to this. other than to sort of try and monitor it very closely, offer what nonmilitary assistance, the biden administration can offer and not to put all america's
faith in holding an election simply for the sake of holding an election. particularly in conditions like this. which are, you know, not good ones for voting. >> also making headlines this morning, british billionaire richard branson made history becoming the first person to reach the edge of outer space in a rocket funded by his own company, virgin galactic. branson launched into space with three company employees, flying 53 miles above earth. it was the final test mission before virgin galactic plans to kick off commercial flights with paying customers next year. nbc news correspondent tom costello was in new mexico for the very moment. >> reporter: under a blazing sun a new age of space travel lifted off from the new mexico desert.
virgin galactic unity attached to the belly of its mothership. inside richard branson, three other employee passengers and two pilots climbing to 46,000 feet. then 45 minutes after liftoff. >> three, two, one, release, release, release. >> reporter: a 2300 mile per hour rocket ride to more than 53 miles high. >> passengers in the back are cleared to unstrop. >> reporter: then the moment branson has been dreaming of since he was a teen, the darkness of space and the curvature of the earth. after three to four minutes of weightlessness, the journey home safely touching down just over an hour after takeoff. >> a perfect landing. >> reporter: on the ground, jubilation, tiumph and the branson champagne shower.
finally, 17 years after starting virgin galactic. >> the wings that are the virgin galactic wings, this here is sir richard branson, astronaut. >> i'm never going to be able to do it justice. it's indescribely beautiful. >> reporter: in an exclusive with nbc news, sir richard could not contain his excitement. proud of his wings. >> i'm afraid no one will be able to take it away. once an astronaut always an astronaut. >> his kids glad to have him back on ground. >> reporter: after suggesting on friday branson and his passengers would not be true astronauts because they don't go as high as jeff bezos and his
passengers will, jeff bezos seemed to give the win, writing can't wait to join the club. branson hopes the quarter million dollars for a price ride will come down. virgin is launching a sweep stakes for two tickets to space. >> then you and a friend will be able to go to space. it's an exciting, i think, opportunity for people around the world, which has never existed before. >> reporter: a life long dream fulfilled and a pledge to open space to everyone. all right. still ahead on "morning joe," an anti-vaccine advocate takes the stage at cpac and gets cheers from some of the crowd. what dr. anthony fauci is saying about that. plus a show down in texas as republican lawmakers there try once again to pass restrictive voting measures. and all the highlights from
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the death toll in surfside continues to rise. the death toll now stands at 90 people with roughly 30 still missing. at least 70 victims have been identified, including three young children. crews continue to sift through the rubble as recovery operations remain ongoing around the clock. >> pope francis made his first public appearance yesterday from the balcony of a tenth floor window at the rome hospital
where he had major surgery a week ago. the vatican said he's been healing well after his july 4th surgery to remove a portion of his colon. the pope of all people needing accessible health care. this is his first hospital say since being elected from the papacy in 2013. turning now to the all england club. on saturday world number one, ashleigh barty, captured her second major holding off karolina pliskova's comeback to complete a three set victory. barty is the first australian woman to win the wimbledon title in more than 40 years. and yesterday, top ranked novak djokovic earned third straight championship at the all england club. his sixth wimbledon crown after
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stephie graff in 1988. quite a day in britain yesterday ed luce, a lot going on there. but as we look at the news, we also had the news that boris johnson was lifting all restrictions in the uk. obviously many are concerned about the delta variant still on the move there. why did johnson make the move? what are the concerns from the health care workers? >> so one of the striking things about yesterday's extraordinary day of sport, whether it was on the center court at wimbledon or wembly stadium, there wasn't a mask. there wasn't a wimbledon last year because of social distancing, but this year there was, and there were no masks. part of the reason for this is that next monday, boris johnson
has announced the scrapping of all restrictions on social distancing. amid the fact that the delta variant is leading to a tripling of infections. in fact, the infection rate is 30 times higher than a month ago and expected to go back to its peak of 100,000 a day that we saw late last year. so this is a herd immunity strategy. almost no scientist in britain, including those advising boris johnson, are recommending that he do this. there's a great deal of puzzlement as to why, at this point, he would be tempting fate for a third winter lockdown. but he's going ahead. he operates on gut instincts and his gut instinct is british people have had enough. and now we throw caution to the wind and see what happens. >> what's the vaccination rate?
do you know what the vaccination rate right now is in britain as the united states is trying to get up to 70%, what's britain's vaccination rate? >> for adults it's over 80% have had at least one shot. >> wow. >> and i think it's approaching 60% have had two. so it's very high. i'm only here for a couple more days, but since i've been here, the ten days i've been here, we have many friends in london and outside of london with both shots who have come down with covid. now the covid they've come down with is much less serious than it would have been had they not been double vaccinated. so hospitalization rates are not going up at nearly the pace of the infection rates. but the fact is, this is a very supple fast moving virus that mutates and the risk here is that the prime minister is offering it a whole new petri
dish to mutate further. >> ed luce thank you very much for being on this morning. coming up, incidents of unruly airline passengers are on the rise, shutting down airports and diverting planes. we're going to show you one of the latest which required the crew to duct tape the passenger. what the faa is doing about that. plus, iceland experimented with a four-day work week, and it was a huge success. could we see other countries follow suit? "morning joe" will be right back. "morning joe" will be righ back from prom dresses to workouts and new adventures you hope the more you give the less they'll miss. but even if your teen was vaccinated against meningitis in the past they may be missing vaccination for meningitis b. although uncommon, up to 1 in 5 survivors of meningitis will have long term consequences.
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richard had said life is not fair but government should be. and that's true. >> lawmakers will be sending a message that you can be on the front lines of our economy, that you can be risking your lives at times like so many have done during the pandemic, but yet you shouldn't be able to cast your vote. that's not right. >> a few of the pleas from some texas voters over the weekend. but shortly after, texas house and senate committees advanced two bills which opponents say could disenfranchise millions of voters in the state. meanwhile, in washington, one of president biden's closest allies is pushing for him to endorse reform to the senate filibuster. speaking to politico, majority whip jim clyburn said biden should back a change to the filibuster that would exempt legislation that applies to the constitution. the change would make it
possible for democrats to pass their sweeping election reform bill and another bill reauthorizing key sections of the 1965 voting rights act with just democratic support. congressman clyburn said the president should pressure senator joe manchin, one of the staunchest supporters of the filibuster in the democratic caucus in response the white house echoed its call for a return to so-called talking filibuster, which would require senators to stay on the senate floor to block a bill. clyburn told politico he met with manchin while the senator was drafting a compromise bill. clyburn told him, i'm not asking you to eliminate the filibuster but what i'm saying to you is that nobody should have the right to filibuster my
constitutional rights. joining us now former hud director and mayor, julian castro who today is adding another title to his resume, that of msnbc political analyst. >> thanks for being with us. why don't we start by following up on jim clyburn's suggestion. i said time and again that if mitch mcconnell made an exception for the filibuster for what conservatives consider to be the most important thing congress does, which is to vote on the domination of supreme court justices, then why in the world can you not always make an exception to voting rights, and as jim said, to rights involving the constitution? >> yeah, i think that representative clyburn is exactly right. as you point out, republicans have put a carve out, in effect, for the filibuster for the two
things they always want which is getting to appoint judges as quickly as possible and tax cuts. and representative clyburn now, pleading with the president, who, of course, as everybody knows, clyburn made the biggest difference in president biden's campaign, pleading with him to at least push a carveout on voting rights and also with joe manchin. my hope is that in the least this is something that's going to get done. we know that there's significant push back to actually doing away with the filibuster, i think that would actually be best. because it's not only a problem when you talk about voting rights but a number of other issues that i think would be good for the american people if congress could actually get some things done. but a carve out or a push on the talking filibuster as the president has already said he supports. the problem is we haven't seen
any activity, any push from the oval office on this issue. and you can see that, you know, the impatience is growing among democrats. >> i wanted to ask you about that, jonathan lemire, at the white house. what is the timing of president biden having that discussion with joe manchin, or joe manchin's timing from what you heard, about making these changes? he talked about making the talking filibuster we heard discussions moving the number from 60 to 55. there is the carveout, which if harry reed did that carve out for district court judges and circuit judges, mitch mcconnell and the republicans did that carveout for supreme court judges, which again the most critical issue to their base, so
when is joe biden going to sit down with joe manchin again and when should we expect some movement on the filibuster and a movement towards getting a bill -- some version of hr-1 that can actually pass, some version of hr-4 that can actually pass? >> well, first of all, the president and senator manchin talk all the time. they speak on the phone frequently. president biden is often on the phone calling around to senators and manchin is near the top of his list. he's implored other people to lobby manchin on his behalf, including reverend sharpton. the timetable remains fuzzy. there's a sense it'll be this summer. but right now the infrastructure bill is paramount. the senate is back in session today after a bit of a recess, a lot on their plate the next few weeks. that seems to be the top
priority. we are finally going to hear from president biden, his delayed speech on the importance of voting rights is going to be tomorrow. i'm traveling with him to philadelphia to the national constitution center where he'll deliver it and that's the beginning of the public lobbying campaign. we heard from vice president harris last week on this. we'll hear more from them going forward and they're also going to be stressing, the administration, about legal remedies to preserve the vote. but everyone here recognizes it can only be really done with a legislative solution and that's only going to happen if there is some sort of filibuster reform but there's been reluctance from joe manchin, kyrsten sinema and others i think we're weeks away from knowing which course will be taken to change things. and if not, i think it's clear, there won't be any meaningful measures taken to protect the right to the ballot. >> mr. secretary, let's talk about the texas voting bill that
just passed. and we look back at what happened in georgia, people came out talking about the georgia bill being jim crow 2.0. in the light of day. you had people like nate comb at "the new york times," saying no, it made voting more accessible. there are troubling parts of the bill but it wasn't as bad as first advertised. let's talk about the texas voting bill. do you consider that to be a dangerous piece of legislation? is there any piece of that legislation, like the georgia bill, that actually takes the rights away from local election officials and puts it in the hands of the republican legislature? >> when you look at what republicans are trying to do here in texas, it's all tied into hundreds of pieces of legislation across the country, whether we're talking about
georgia, arizona, other states, and i see it as trying to push back on a changing texas, the demographics of texas have been changing for a while, everybody knows that. in 2018, republicans lost 12 state house seats, lost two congressional seats, lost two state senate seats. and this is an attempt to try to make sure that they stay in power longer. so when places like harris county, for instance, did some forward looking things to increase voter participation, 24-hour voting, drive-thru voting now the legislature is staying you can't do that. in the first edition of that in the texas regular session they tried to have a provision put in so there would be later sunday voting. sunday voting wouldn't start until 1:00 p.m. folks know in the
african-american church one of the traditions has been to take voters to the polls right after church services in the morning. that version is now gone in this special version of this -- >> wait a second. let's be clear here. so are you saying that the souls to the polls provision was taken out? does it start after 1:00 p.m.? or were they able to restrict the voting on sundays? what's in the final version? >> that's right, joe. what's on the table now in the special session now, this is still being worked on in the senate and the house, it went through two committees this weekend, but the restriction on sunday voting that would start at 1:00 p.m. is now gone. and i believe now voting can start at 9:00 a.m. to address your earlier point, look, are there some things that the legislation does where somebody at first blush might
look at it and say isn't this better? an example of that is that it increases by one hour overall early voting hours during the week. so what they do is say, we're actually trying to increase over all early voting hours but what they're doing is, it's a point shaving system. they're taking away the mechanism for local communities to try to increase participation and doing things like saying to county registrars across the state, you cannot proactively send out mail-in ballots for people to fill out applications for. no more of that. so it's going to make it harder for people who relied on getting a mail-in ballot application to actually participate in the future. i think it is overstating the case to say they are absolutely stopping people from voting. what they're engaged in is suppression through a point shaving system. they know putting these
mechanisms in place, whether it's banning 24 hour voting, banning drive-thru voting, stop in mail-in ballot application mail outs, that that's going to help republicans. it's going to help them stay in power. that is their game. >> julian castro, now an msnbc political analyst. thank you so much for being on this morning. >> great to have you on the team. >> we'll continue to follow this. still ahead, another major moment in the withdrawal of u.s. troops in afghanistan as a top commander steps down. plus, new reporting that u.s. intelligence gathering, there is suffering as the taliban continues to make gains. we'll have the latest on that.
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welcome back to "morning joe." it is monday, july 12th. the ap's jonathan lemire is still with us. and joe -- >> yeah? >> -- screaming at the top of his lungs yesterday. i thought the house was going to fall down. >> yeah. >> it was not good. and jonathan lemire, at one point he screamed at me. >> no, i did not, jonathan. i would never do that. >> joe! >> i asked a simple question and the man snapped. >> what was the question you kept asking? mika wanders in for penalty kicks at the end of euro 2020 and 21. >> i did not know who was who because they changed their outfit. >> they did not change their out fits. before the kick she was asking are we this for in or out? i'm like, mika we're against the
blue team, we're for the white team with the lions on the jerseys. jonathan lemire, jonathan lemire, oh my god, it was a bad choice. i was so upset. >> insightful sports commentary there, mika. >> thank you. >> whereas a few of us, we were -- i was traveling with the president this weekend in delaware, he spent the weekend in wilmington, we were in the hold in a cafe, all gathered around the tv watching and people were shouting and screaming. although most people i was with new which uniform each team was wearing. >> roger bennett we're going to get to you in a minute and going through all this. but just wanted to get you off the top as current u.s. citizen, always self-hating englishman when it comes to football. boy, they -- they were dominated, i hate to say it. but for about 115, is 10 out of
the 120 minutes they were dominated. gareth southgate forever going to be questioned why he got two 12-year-olds to come in that haven't played since 1973 to have the final two kicks. >> i feel so bad for them. >> some questionable moves for them. but at the end of the day, after the first five to ten minutes italy was just heartbreaking superior. >> i ride with team america now, joe. so none of this pain, agony, disaster, affects me whatsoever. >> whatever. >> it's facts. >> i don't believe it at all, roger. you were broken hearted yesterday like all of england, were you not? >> i can measure my life in england's footballing agony and failure. this was a lovable team of remarkable human beings that
transitioned the way they saw the footballers, champagne swigging, a-list, buy a lambeau, crash a lambeau, by another one personality. this was a group of remarkable human beings after the lockdown, and the self-inflicted wound of brexit. this young team allowed the nation to rip its shirt off, throw its beers in the issues and grab issues, lgbtq rights, racism, child hunger, and they were a happy face of the nation, a face that i hope still comes true. they should be proud. but england is a dark and twisted place and pride is a complicated thing for them. >> they're a great group of kids -- i call them kids because i am just so old. but even the stars, you know, carried themselves so well.
so let us hope, mika, the world cup is next year. i think they're going to be playing it in death valley with temperatures of 134 degrees. so we'll see how it goes next year. >> maybe better luck then. we have developing news this morning out of afghanistan. defense officials say the commander of american and nato forces in afghanistan is stepping down today. general austin scott miller has led the u.s. operations in afghanistan since august of 2018. longer than any of his predecessors but officials say he will turn over the command today. taking his place will be the commander of u.s. central command, marine general frank mckenzie, mckenzie, meanwhile warns that intelligence gathering is suffering. while traveling to kabul yesterday he said, quote, my knowledge of what's going on in afghanistan is not nearly what it was 180 days ago.
>> probably what it was 18 days ago. >> the taliban is quickly regaining territory in afghanistan. it's estimated that a group now controls more than one-third of the country's 421 districts. and the white house is pressuring russia to respond to a string of ransomware attacks. in a phone call, president biden reportedly warned that time was running out for the russian leader to take action. earlier this month the russian group r-evil is believed to have attacked a high profile tech company. this was after an attack in may that shutdown one of the largest meat directors. the attacks were a key focus of last month's meetings between president biden and putin. in friday's phone call, the president reportedly warned putin that the attacks were being treated as national
security threats which could lead to a more severe response from the white house. >> the latest now on the pandemic. we could know more this week about whether or not we'll need a third pfizer vaccine shot to protect against the new covid delta variant that is behind the new outbreaks across the country. nbc's kathy park has the latest. >> reporter: a national debate over the covid-19 booster shot. pharmaceutical giant pfizer will meet with top u.s. health officials about the benefits of a booster. "the washington post" reporting the meeting will happen in days as pfizer's research suggests a third doze can offer more protection against the delta variant. but the cdc, and fda say americans who have been fully vaccinated do not need a booster shot at this time. >> that doesn't mean that we're not actively following and gathering all of this information to see if and when we might need it and if and when we do, we'll have everything in place to do it.
>> why is there a debate over the third dose? >> so the debate is because there's a question about when we need a third dose. but we have studies, which the cdc and the fda can cite that show that even eight to 12 months out clinical trial participants they're still maintaining anti-bodies and they have immunities. >> in israel, officials plan to give a third dose for the older adults. >> reporter: in the u.s. coronavirus cases are climbing more than two dozen states, outbreaks in this arkansas, missouri, nevada and texas with the delta variant. >> we're going to overwhelm the health care system in arkansas in the next 14 days. >> reporter: the u.s. surgeon general stressing the risks of going unvaccinated. >> we're seeing the vast
majority, 95%, are in unvaccinated populations. >> reporter: the deadly surge driven by the delta variant. >> the conservative political action conference was held in delaware over the weekend. and at one point the audience cheered when a speaker began discussing how the united states fell short of its coronavirus vaccination goal. here is the moment, following by dr. anthony fauci's reaction when asked about it yesterday on cnn. >> clearly they were hoping, the government was hoping that they could sort of sucker 90% of the population into getting vaccinated. and it isn't happening. right. there's a -- [ cheers ] >> younger people are well aware of what the risks really are. >> it's horrifying. i mean, they're cheering about someone saying that it's a good thing for people not to try and
save their lives. i mean, if you just unpack that for a second, jake, it's almost frightening to say, hey, guess what, we don't want you to do something to save your life. yay, everybody starts screaming and clapping. i just don't get that. i don't think that anybody was thinking clearly can get that. what is that all about? i don't understand that, jake. >> what is that all about, joe? what is -- i mean, even i could see one of the people on stage kind of flinching. probably vaccinated. >> we talked about a political cult. i have no doubt and i'm sure you had no doubt, if donald trump from the beginning pressed this on his people and made it their patriotic duties we would have seen republicans at 95% vaccination rates and we would be focussing mainly on getting
people of color and getting those numbers back up. but you do see, though, there's this -- again, you look at the numbers and you have republicans that are staying away from this in large part because this is anti-vaxing phenomenon has taken over the republican party. large chunks of the republican party. you can see why because media figures on the trump right are talking about how the vaccine is dangerous. people at so called conservative groups saying the same thing. it's hilarious they call themselves conservative, there's nothing conservative about them. nothing. i say nothing. nothing conservative about what those people are talking about. it's a radical change from where we were even ten years ago. it wasn't so long ago that conservatives that republicans
sort of, you know, laughed off the anti-vaxxers as left coast radicals. it's not left coast radicals now, it's right wing trumpists leading the anti-vaccine charge. let's bring in michelle goldberg from "the new york times," we'll talk about her latest piece in a second, michelle. as a life-long southern baptist that was a fascinating read, an important read. first talk about the antivaxxing i have people i know my entire life calling up, saying why do we need vaccinations? these are the same people who gave their kids five vaccinations before they went to kindergarten and didn't think twice about it. suddenly vaccinations have
become this political hot topic for people on the trump right. >> what's heartbreaking about it is you could imagine a scenario in which they crowed about the trump vaccine, trump deserves credit for operation warp speed, right. they wouldn't have to break with their own political naurive in order to champion this thing. i think it just goes to show both how committed so much of the right is to a broader narrative about covid being no big deal. about the whole thing being some sort of hoax designed to create, you know, some sort of political sub board nation. but also the extent to which this is a movement that exists in a completely hermetically sealed alternative reality that cannot be pierced by the evidence of their older relatives, their neighbors,
people in their communities going to the hospital, you know, being sick, being incapacitated. it's very hard, i think, in this country right now to not know someone whose life has been turned upside down by covid. >> it's very sad. we're reading one story after another, seems every day stories coming in from people who are in vaccine resistant areas who are hospitalized. some die, some have to get transplants and they -- you know, so many of their family members say i wish they had just gotten the covid shot. jonathan lemire, michelle brings up a great point. trump supporters could have very easily -- donald trump could have very easily embraced this and said, hey, look what happened with operation warp speed, compare what we did to what the europeans did, and compare what we turned over to joe biden, we set them up for success. and, of course, donald trump could have taken full credit for it and told people, hey, let's
go out there and have this be our lasting legacy, that we alone beat covid or however he would want to say it. he had that opportunity and for some reason he's not walking through the door and most of the supporters are saying now they don't want to get the vaccine. >> there's very little commendable about president trump's response to coronavirus. but one thing they did do well the funding of operation warp speed, investing in the companies, and steering the development in record time. now the early stages of delivering it were another matter. yet the president never embraced it. a few reasons why. trump during the campaign last year promised the vaccine would be out before election day, that did not happen. pfizer got its approval a few weeks after, and trump according to our reporter was in a rage about that, thinking it was an
attempt to plot against him. and during the transition, if he was going to cooperate with joe biden, and he did no public events to urge americans to say it was safe. when he and first lady melania trump got the vaccine, they did it behind closed doors. not in a way they could have promoted using it. and since then we have heard from him on occasion mention you need to use the vaccine. he says now people should get the great vaccine but talks about it in a way i'm not getting enough credit for this. he's still viewing everything through a political lens and this is one of the fundamental dynamics with donald trump. he never wants to alienate even the fringe portions of his supporters. never wants to cast aside anyone who likes him, that could be white nationalists, proud boys or in this case, anti-vaxxers.
he doesn't want to be out there challenging them because he doesn't want to lose their support. even if trump were to come out and say everyone needs to do this, i question how much that will help. >> michelle you write about how the christian right is in decline and taking america with it. you quote a leader about how white evangelicals once saw themselves as the owners of main stream american culture, morality and values. now they're just another subculture. and michelle, you write in part this. from this fact derives much of our country's cultural conflict. it helps explain not just the rise of donald trump but also the growth of qanon and the
escalation con fle graduation of race theory. the feeling that it's slipping away has created an atmosphere of rage, resentment and paranoia. >> michelle, i said as a southern baptist we have a lot of protestants, white protestants that went through the 1960s. we grew up with our parents feeling like they had been besieged by the radical images coming across television, chicago '68, woodstock. fill in the blanks. but at the same time you would go to church on sunday, it was main stream and evangelicals, churches were growing and we always would look at like the main line protestant denominations and say, well, their numbers aren't growing as much because it's lukewarm. but you look at the numbers that you cite here, and other
numbers, and you look at the decline in the number of people who self-identify as evangelicals now, and it really is a pretty rapid decline. and i've got to believe in large part because it has become so affiliated with politics and particularly donald trump. a very divisive figure, especially for younger americans. >> so this -- you know, this sort of downward slope proceeds donald trump. and i think that there is a chicken and egg dynamic. it's symbiotic. you had, evangelicals were losing the younger generation. i wrote a book about the religious right in 2006 in a time they were feeling triumphant had one of their own in the white house, their churches were abundant.
they boasted they were going to outbreed liberals. and enthis you saw the younger generation rose up thinking this generation was going to march through our institutions and take them over. several stuck to the path but many didn't and they stopped being able to win over new converts. it was around 2013 that the first time the religious nuns became the single largest religious group in the united states. and last year, and this has to sting for evangelicals, main line protestants became a bigger portion of the population than white evangelicals. so i think there's two things happening. they're declining. as they decline, they become more hard edged. they become more attracted to these really angry reactionary politics. and then that angry reaction politics leads them to shrink more and repels young people even more.
>> what's so interesting is when i first got into congress in '95, i had a lot of young people come work for me, the religious right helped me get elected in '94, '95 i'd come and ask the question, why do you want to work in a congressman's office, what do you want to do on capitol hill? if they were from evangelical churches, you'd get traditional, it would be about abortion, family, the sort of things that you would expect in 1995. by the time i left in 2001, they were still coming in, but a lot of -- i had been telling this story for years. a lot of them would come in birken stocks and it was about aids in africa. it was about hunger, it was about global poverty. and i would go into church groups and i would say, you want to know what the future of your church is, and then i would
explain the transformation over six years. and you also saw it with george w. bush, this obsession with doing something to save the lives of people in africa. aids in africa. there was a very evangelical issue, something that evangelicals really focused on and you had that change. so, of course, that's why i'm not so surprised that this hard edge is turning out so many younger americans who might be naturally joining the church. >> right. i think you had -- yes, you had a lot of evangelicals who wanted to do something about global poverty, who were not so attracted to this hard-edged anti-gay message. who were, like a lot of young people, idealistic. and something interesting i've seen in response to my article, i've seen threats online from people who were reared in these
evangelical home schooling communities that were really preparing people to go on this long march through the institutions. and some of the young people who have broken away from that path, in some ways it was their very rigorous home schooling education that gave them the tools to look at this christian nationalist theology, to look at these anti-rationalists and often just quite sadistic politics and to say that -- and to be able to turn their back on it, to be able to get some distance on it. >> all right, michelle goldberg, thank you so much. we really appreciate you being with us. please come back soon. you know, mika, even in 2005 when we were going over -- our church was going over every day to mississippi and louisiana for aid and relief after hurricane katrina, i would go on tv every
night and complain about the fact that the government wasn't there, that fema wasn't there. that the feds weren't there. that nobody seemed to be there, other than a lot of evangelical relief organizations. and there were young evangelicals all over the region providing food, providing water. there were some people from different evangelical universities. pat robertson's university were down there as well. that was, again, that was actually a large growing part of that evangelical movement. and what -- you know, george w. bush did and you look at financial times estimates that he saved perhaps 13 million lives in africa, because that -- >> that's right. >> -- was the obsession for so many evangelicals, it's sad to
see how that has changed over the past decade. back now to the european championship, english fans lined up early for a seat at the pub yesterday before their national team took on italy in the final. but instead of a celebratory toast many ended the evening drowning their sorrows. let's bring back in roger bennett, an nbc sports analyst, author of "the new york times" number one best-seller "reborn in the usa, an englishman's love letter to his chosen home". probably good timing. >> yet if you look at roger, he's dead behind the eyes. there is no joy. we played pretty vacant. it brings you absolutely no joy. just admit it, yesterday was so
heartbreaking to you. >> it's terrible. >> and talk about how heartbreaking it was for most of england. >> most of england like me can measure their life in english footballing agony, self-sabotage and failure. it's not just the loss, it's an echo of the ghost from the pass. it's like watching the knicks get to the finals. and they faced italy, the most passionate national anthem stingers in the world. it started well for england, second minute, storming in, slapping the ball home. cue a roar heard by richard branson in space. 50 million english lovers rip off their shirt. but england shrank there on.
the second goal for italy. it went to penalty kick. the players' shirts seem to weigh of chain mail and the young stars wilted in that pressure. the final taker, a 19-year-old, taken on by the italian. so this defeat for england takes its place against the battle of saratoga, dunkirk. don't take away our losing, joe, it's all we got. the italians were fantastic. they won the song contest and now they won the euro.
what a great two months for that nation. >> it's jonathan lemire, two questions. congrats on the book. is the stadium still standing this morning? and second a lot has been made of this team in england being youthful and representing a new britain, but royal cup is just a year away. because of the postponement of the euros we have one year until the world gathers again. could next year be the year it's coming home as opposed to yesterday, i won't take credit for the joke, when it's coming rome? >> obviously football holds a mirror to the nation that surrounds it. and england is so deeply divided. and what this young team, this generous, socially active young team did fleetingly was unite the nation very, very briefly
and england will wake up now hungover and deal with the splits it had before. and some of the behavior was a darkness, a hint of everything to come. the world cup is next year in qatar, may as well play it on the dark side of the moon. that is going to be a world cup of chaos, crazy, where anything can happen. please got the u.s. national's men will be in the tournament so that's all we can care about. >> we don't believe it, roger. we know your number one on "the new york times" best selling list. thanks for being with us. we're sorry your heart is broken. the houston astros had the last laugh against the yankees on the final day of the first half of baseball's regular season. why not start on saturday night
when aaron judge his hit 21st home run of the season and as he rounded third base, he mocked jose altuve, tugging at his jersey like he did when the second baseman was told not to rip off his jersey when celebrating. there was speculation he was wearing a buzzer, cheating. last night yankee's catcher gary sanchez made the similar gesture with his third run home. mocking altuve, the astros. the yankees up 7-2. but the astros had an answer in the ninth, a walk-off home run for altuve. no gestures this time. and his teammates ripped his jersey off in frenzied celebration. the astros avoided the series
sweep with an 8-7 victory and altuve had obviously taken off the super computers and the wires attached. sure he cheated against the yankees, you know he did. and people saying let's just forget about it. no. not going to forget about it. jonathan lemire, hard to cheer for the astros, especially a guy who should have been banned from the game for several years. but someone needs to tell aaron judge, a great player and all i heard a great kid, don't play new york, new york around the yankees, don't mock altuve. hit your home runs and keep your head down. it never pays off for him. >> no. joe. he should stop poking the bear. you mentioned the new york new york moment was in the 2018 playoffs, yankees red sox in the first round. yankees won game two at fenway
and aaron judge played new york new york on the clubhouse speaker system. so it was a taunting moment in boston. the next two games at the bronx, the red sox win 16-1 p. he seems to have instigated this as well. you're right, it's very difficult to route for the houston astros in light of all that's happened. that said when they play the yankees, i am willing to make that exception. and yankees playing better in the last week or so, the red sox went into the break in a slide here. the rays are on our heels and we don't want the yankees to pick up momentum, seemed like they might have been and that was a crushing loss for them yesterday. >> a miserable way to go into the all-star break. this is a team over the past couple weeks gave up seven runs to the angels in the ninth, gave up six runs to the astros last night in the ninth inning.
despite all of that we understand they are going to be the team of destiny the second half of the season. red sox still will be lucky to squeak ahead of the baltimore orioles. maybe we finish fourth, if we're lucky tied for third with the blue jays. >> still ahead on "morning joe," cubans take to the streets in a rare protest against the government. morgan radford joins us with new reporting on that. plus a new book claims president trump praised adolf hitler in a 2018 trip. and disney and marvel's new super hero film, "black widow" sets a pandemic record at the box office as people start heading back into movie
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welcome back to "morning joe," a live look at the white house at 37 past the hour. and the biden administration is responding after thousands of cubans engaged in what's being called the biggest anti-government demonstrations in decades there. nbc news correspondent morgan radford is following that story and joins us now. morgan, what more can you tell us? >> it was truly unprecedented, i can't overstate how pivotal this moment is, thousands took to the streets in cuba yesterday in a striking anti-government protest and police clashed with protests after a call for storm after a crippling pandemic, food
shortages and a poor economy. they're calling for food, medicine and freedom in these protests. a display of anger in the streets on cuba. thousands of anti-government rallies in large cities and small towns across the island of 11 million people. citizens calling for an end to the decades old communist dictatorship. protesting the dire economic conditions, food shortages and the slow pace of covid-19 vaccinations. in one area of havana protesters clashing with police. elsewhere they chanted repressors at riot police. they're voicing frustration over civil liberties and the handling of the pandemic. the president is blaming the united states for the unrest and calling on supporters to take back the streets during a nationally televised speech
sunday afternoon. social media helping to fuel the demonstrations. the hashtag sos cuba taking off on twitter. here in the u.s. solidarity protests spilling into the streets of miami and across the country. >> everybody in cuba go out in the streets, everybody asking for freedom. >> reporter: u.s. officials expressing support for the protesters and a member of the u.s. state department tweeting we stand by the cuban people's right for peaceful assembly. we call for calm and condemn any violence. so what's interesting is that right now there seems to be a bit more optimism in miami than on the ground in havana. sources i spoke to in cuba say there are mixed emotions. one person said something striking to me, they said the pandemic did what the embargo was unable to. they said the storm the pandemic created was really created
internally. so there's so much discussion are these protests about covid or about communism? the truth is it's both. cubans were brought to the brink with the pandemic. although many are hopeful this could be the beginning of the end of the regime, they're still skeptical but hope with enough international attention and pressure that things could change for good, mika. >> thank you very much. joe? >> jonathan lemire, of course, repression and tyranny and hardship, that's been the norm on cuba since castro took over. the question is, will this be different. is this time any different? you look now and saw the sign that said biden, please help, out of cuba. of course, there are a lot of people that are looking to the united states there. the same thing with haiti, haitians looking to america to help as well. these are a couple of hot button
issues right on our doorstep. joe biden and his staff have a lot to balance this coming week. >> hot button issues right in the united states' back yard. it's striking how unusual protests like this in cuba are. we haven't seen one like this since the mid '90s which led to cubans fleeing the country soon thereafter. obviously this is a government known to crack down on things. i should know national security adviser jake sullivan chimed in saying the u.s. supports freedom of expression, across cuba. he just tweeted that, adding to the white house's and the federal government's sort of course of support for what's happening there. but yeah, this is going to be a tough issue for biden in the coming days as we were talking earlier about balancing what to do in haiti, they sent a team there but reluctant to send troops. they're going to be supportive
of what happens in cuba, a country reliant on tourism, so it was hit hard with the pandemic. the president has a jam packed week, with these questions he has to face even on paper looking at the domestic agenda, crime today, voting rights tomorrow, the child tax credit later in the week. the issues are too big to avoid. >> coming up, senator lisa murkowski defied the political odds in alaska before running and winning as a write in candidate after losing a primary. now she's facing another challenge back home. we'll talk about that next on "morning joe." "morning joe."
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joe." alaska republicans voted to endorse a political newcomer instead of long time incumbent senator lisa murkowski. in a 58-17 vote, gop members endorsed the state's former department of administration commissioner on saturday. this comes after lisa murkowski voted to convict donald trump after his impeachment for inciting an insurrection. trump has also endorsed the senator's rival and said in a statement issued by his leadership pac last month quote murkowski has got to go. >> lots of luck with that. let's bring in democratic senator michael bennett of colorado he wrote and helped pass the expanded child credit. the payment that starts to families this week. we'll get to that in a moment. lisa murkowski, senator, may be more difficult for republicans to beat than they think. they tried this before in 2010 with a tea party candidate and she beat them as an independent
write-in candidate. she's tough, isn't she? >> she's incredibly tough, incredibly honest. i'm not sure there's anybody in this building with more integrity than lisa murkowski and i think the people of alaska know that which is why the last time the tea party tried to take her out, she was able to overcome that election even though she wasn't on the ballot, she was a write-in candidate here so i think she has a good shot here. >> can you take us behind the scenes and let our viewers know what the state of bipartisan negotiations are across a wide array of bills. of course, we hear about the fights. we see some crazy clips from conferences. we hear idealogically driven charges from both sides. but what is happening with people like yourself and senator
murkowski, manchin, and romney? talk about some of the bills that are getting passed or some of the negotiations that are moving forward. >> yeah, there is good bipartisan work going on right now with the infrastructure bill that i think we're going to have the chance to vote on in the next couple of weeks, it's not in my view a perfect bill but it is the product of bipartisan negotiation that i think is constructive and helpful. negotiation that i think is constructive and helpful bipartisan negotiation that i think is constructive an i spent the last two months in a room with republicans and democrats trying to figure out if there is a path forward on immigration, including the dream act.he we meet with a group of senators. i would say the big dividing
line is that republicans in washington are unwilling to vote to repeal a single sent of the trump tax cuts. and they will stretch to every degree to avoid doing that and that will make it very hard for them i think in the end to pass a large bipartisan infrastructure bill. >> all right, senator, i want to ask you about this child tax credit. >> i c ran as you may remember almost completely unnoticed campaign for president on the idea that we could cut childhood poverty nearly in half and he took my american family act that is a reform of the child tax credit in the american rescue plan. and it will cut poverty nearly
in half. it goes 2,000 a kid to $3,000. it is fully refundable which means for the first time in the country's history the millions of children, the poorest children, willst receive it and paid out starting on july 15th on a monthly basis for the next six months. participants will get, and by the way it is 65 million children that will benefit from this. nearly 90% of america's kids, will have the benefit until the end of the year. right now our night fight is to make it permanent. we have one of the highest poverty rates in the industrial world. the population in our country that is poorest is our children. that is a disgrace, and it costs us nearly a trillion dollars a year. here is an opportunity finally
for the government to intercede for working families, poor families, and it made me more optimistic than i have been in the last 11 years that i have been in thear senate and i give them huge credit for leading on this. >> senator, good gorng, two questions for you, is there a update on the disturbing arrests of the four people in denver. they had a huge amount of weapons and if there is any sense to what the motive may be, and also a voting rights speech in inphiladelphia, i want your tense for what you think should happen for the phil buster reform. yeah, so i don't, on the arrests in denver, i don't want to speak
on the arrests. it was apparently the result of a made that saw the reps in a hotel room and reported them and that is incredible. the idea that she came forward and did her duty is really amazing. on thely voting rights. what i think should happen is we need to show up in favor of democracy. you see name cuba that are protesting oppression there. democracy is being tested all over the world. the chinese government is competing with us in a relentless way and we need to get our act together. mitch mcconnell's obstruction of the senate. it's not a traditional approach. he is bringing this democracy to our knees as is the voter
suppression that is going on all over the country. my t state has the second highe voter participation rate in the country. weth have mail in pal lots. we have opportunities for people to drop off their ballots early. republicans would fight as hard as democrats to keep it the way it is and i think the country ought to look like that, you know, if we believe in democracy we should be voting for people. we have a third republican, democrat, and independent. and i, for one, do not believe, mitch mcconnell, a bastardization of the rules, and we thought protect the american's people right to show up and compete, and we can
compete with societies around the wiworld. what is at stake and that is whyke i think it is so port. >> all right, michael bennet of colorado. thank you and just for the record, i noted your presidential campaign. i noticed -- >> you did. i predicted you would do very well.er nostrodomus i am not. >> thank you, i appreciate it. and the all-star game is tonight in denver, colorado because of ourve commitment to voting and hope people will watch it. >>at thank you for that. still ahead, as he has done so manyas times before, donald tru is railing against a new book and driving up it's sales. >> greatsa for sales. >> i think he must have some deal with publishers he gets a percentage. >> we're going to talk to the
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mention the word love. the love in the air, i have never seen anything like it. >> former president trump speaking yesterday with fox news continuing to frame what happened on january 6th in a far different light than reality. as we know he directed those so-called great people -- >> they were beating police officers with american flags, and troops that fought to defend. they used that american flag to bludgeon nearly to death, police officers. and he told them to go to congress and stop the stertification. >> don junior said something like we're coming to get you. we're doming to get you. you had rudy giuliani on that
same stage talking about combat justice. combat justice. this is exactly what donald trump and his minions were calling on. and what happened after donald trump wept back to the white house? after he let loose? this riot on the united states capital. >> he was happy. he was watching tv. even in the tent after his speech he was watching on the monitors. members of his family were hugging and doing little dances. >> according to one republican senator trump was delighted and thrilled by what you had seep. kevin mccarthy calling him while these so-called good people were breaking into the capitol and
bludgeoning police officer. calling for the hanging of mike pence. donald trump was cheering it on and would not call in reinforcements. >> this morning we have new video. officers being brutally beaten by capitol rioters while trying to help someone that collapsed. it shows officers in a tunnel trying to make their way to a rioter who was later found to have died by a drug overdose. one is dragged by his helmet into the crowd where court documents say he was stripped of his gear and beaten with weapons. a second officer is pulled back and forth between attackers and a colleague trying to rescue him. video shows him being thumped, kicked, and beaten by the rioters with weapons.
prosecutors identify the attacker as jack whitten has not yet having entered a plea. someone said "you're going to die tonight." >> these are the rioters, the thugs, that trump called good people. he said these riot eers, and people beating up and abusing law enforcement officers. talk about an orwellian weekend. just a bizarre weekend of lies being spread. you also had republicans gathered cheering on the fact that less than the 90% of
americans were being vaccinated. cheering on the lack of vaccinations in this country. just sad and frightening times. and for those progressives, republicans have vaccinated their children and sent them to schools with vaccinations for decades and decades. and again, this is it seems we have taken another step towards a dangerous step over the past weekend. >> it does, and it seems like teenages ago that we were saying that the fever might now have finally have broken because of what people like mcconnell and mccarthy were saying. we thought maybe this was the
final straw, and it went the opposite direction and it is unfortunately continuing as we heard from trump, and not just his republican enablers, but his media enablers. i know it's probably not kosher to talk about your competitors, but maria bartinomo. saying there was love in the air where people were beating police officers to death. when people were seeking out both republican and democratic leaders for violent punishment and possibly lynching. when they were brandishing the confederate flag and we have a former president, the former guy, describing this as as
atmosphere of love in the air, and media enablers spreading this message. i have to say this kind of thing will happen again unless the consequences are not -- the consequences has to be severe. because american democracies is at stake. >> yeah, they do, federal judges have to treat this as a dangerous situation, and not hand down light sentences. this was a full on riot, this was an insurrection. if they look up the definition of experience to commit si decision it can't light up more tightly and neatly than this. this is a riot meant to do one thing at the president's guidance to stop the count. to stop the count of the electoral college that was going
on inside of this building and they will willing to beat the police officers to death, to plungeen them, to do anything they could do including talling for the hanging of the vice president to stop this count. well, this is, perhaps, just signs of more things to come. there are many people concerned about what is happening in denver. police removed weapons and am munition from a hotel room. police feared a lfz style
shooting. the low discovered more than a dozen weapons and more than 1,000 rounds of ammunition in one of the rooms. three men were tressed after the incident, and they said they're not aware of any direct threats to the all-star game and doesn't know if friday's arrests were connected to the event that they have no evidence as of yet that it is. the all-star game was moved from atlanta to denver after the uproar over georgia's voting laws. >> all right, to the severe weather now. the western par of the country is once again facing dangerously high temperatures and the heat is fuelling the build far risk.
>> in california more than 2500 acres burned compared to the same time last year. the fire this weekend doubling in size. one photographer captured the intense conditions. >> it is just weeks and weeks drier than it should be this year. >> not only prematurely ferocious, but also deadly. the scorching temperatures threatening nearly 30 million americans across the west with thermostats soaring. it was 117 in st. george. >> the extreme heat pushing the region's extreme drought to
historic levels. reservoirs hitting new lows. in utah one reservoir has run dry. >> this is something i have never seen before. >>. >> let's bring in bill karens. usually covering different weather events. this seems extreme like never seen before. >> yeah, i mean, we're in a mega drought. some people call it a decade long drought. the soil is so draw that it heats up more rapidly. and it is worse than it should be. this time last year it was only 40 pakistan. and this weekend, death valley is always hot. this was incredibly hot.
that was the old type of thermometers, the 130 is the hottest reliable temperature ever recorded on earth. some people don't think that that would have been 134. but today we're starting to slowly cool it off. but we have 19 people with advisories. we are not going to have all time highs, but it will be for areas like reno. and i want to remember all of our friends in the northeast. we had the horrific flash flooding. we're going to do it today, it is a tropical growth air mass. there is a lot of downpours.
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the biden administration is responding after thousands of cubans took to the streets after what is being call the biggest anti-government protests in history there. the island is struggling to contain the coronavirus. the protests lasted about 2.5 hours before it was broken up. cuban security personnel deployed tear gas and other forms of force. cuban president miguel diaz blamed the united states for
agitating the situation. a u.s. state department official said that peaceful protests are growing as they express near concerns. we comment the efforts of the cuban people mobilizing donations to help those in need. police say a 63-year-old doctor was the ring leader in the plot to assassinate the haitian president. the development came as the united states arrived in haiti yesterday, some officials did, at the request of the government. the delegation is now assessing
the situation to see if it can be of assistance and jonathan, you had some people calling for u.s. forces to go down to haiti. that is a mistake that bill clinton started to make, turning theships around as they got to the dock. i think that was in '93. i suspect that is not a mistake that the biden administration will make. at the same time the chaos is erupting on the island. how are they weighing their options? >> yeah, we heard direct appeals asking the u.s. to send troops to the island nation to try to stabilize things there as you said it is descending into chaos. they are strongly leaning
against it. they're talking to us, with the president, traveling with the president of delds, pointing out all of this, but from the internal deliberations they don't think the troops down there would be the right diction. haiti not very far from the united states. a country that really struggled to pick itself back up after a devastaing earthquake. and they are worried this could destabilize further as the investigationers try to untangle what is a very murky story with foreign nationals being among those arrested and this man now with the ties to florida.
>> and ed, haiti just seems to be an unsolvable problem, extreme poverty for decades, violence, an earthquake that made a bad situation worse. anarchy. what can the biden administration do to bring some sense of stability to an island that has just seemed to be immune to outside help and solutions. it is a quagmire. it was centuries, really. on the other hand, if the
situation continues to deteriorate there is supposed to be elections there in september. it looks up likely that the conditions to hold them will be right. if the situation continues to deteriorate then we start getting what we saw in the 90s and since then. which is large numbers of haitians coming across to florida in boats. then it will be a terrible political problem for biden and we know the opposition will be exploiting that. there is no easy solutions to this other than to try and monitor it very closely and offer what nonmilitary assistance we can offer, and not to put all americas faith in holding an election simply for the same of holding an election. particularly in conditions like
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for the first time in nearly two decades, afghanistan is nearly clear of u.s. troops. as american shouldiers leave, the threat of a particular enemy is reemerging. richard engel reports for us from kabul. as the military winds down operations, the top american general handing over this morning to a new leader with a far more hands off mission. the taliban are closing in on kabul. as u.s. trained afghanistan military forces put up half hearted resistance.
is the united states heading right back to where it started? the u.s. invaded afghanistan nearly 20 years ago because theball ban were in power and they hosted osama bin laden whose was responsible for 9/11. now one group is fighting hard to prevent future bin laden's from taken hold. the elite afghan commandos. i recently saw them in action attacking a taliban safe house. we understand they're starting to come back in once again. >> it is problems for the future as they get -- >> even worse than 9/11, i'm telling you. >> a member of parliament and a negotiator with the taliban. extremists tried to assassinate her, twice. >> you have been in war and in
war people don't distribute sweets. they kill each other. do you think those that have been killed will not go for revenge? they will. >> i naught question to a former taliban leader who knew bin laden. >> will afghanistan once again become a base for international terrorist attacks? >> the taliban signed a peace deal with the united states and the main point is that the taliban will not allow any terrorist groups to operate in afghanistan. >> richard engel with that report. turning now to the olympics, the tokyo games are under two weeks away. the country is still working on tightening covid restrictions. tom yamas reports from tokyo. >> tokyo under a state of emergency and olympians feeling
it the moment they land. long waits, covid testing, to apps that track their every move. travel is limited to the olympic village and event locations. no traveling to outside restaurants or sites allowed. >> i'm not going to sugar coat it. it is very hard being out here. it is very hard staying focused because we're quarantining and we can't go nowhere. >> but with all of the restrictions, they are not required to be vaccinated. >> i didn't want to put anything in my body when i didn't know how i would react. michael andrew saying he is not vaccinated and doesn't plan on it in the near future. >> all of us here went through a very strict protocol.
>> novak djokovic is thinking twice about competing. fresh off of his victory, he's now on track to be the first man to win a golden slam, a grand slam plus a gold medal. >> my plan was always to go to the olympic games, but right now i'm a little bit divided. it's kind of 50/50 because of what i heard in the last couple days. >> for some events, the competition is already heating up. on the basketball court over the weekend, team usa suffering a stunning loss to nigeria in the first olympic warm up exhibition game. >> kevin durant getting stuffed at the rim by one of the 7 nba pros playing for nigeria. the american team also stacked with nba stars. >> none of us have ever played with each other, so we're just
trying to figure it out. we know we don't have three or four weeks or whatever it may be, but i think this is good for us. and just regroup. >> tom yamas with that report. now to a frightening moment in the sky for passengers on a single engine sesna plane in alaska. an 18-year-old man took control of the plane in an attempt to end his own life. alaska state troopers say he got up from his seat and grabbed the yolk and caused the plane to nose dive. the pilot with the help of other passengers stopped him. he was take into custody for the
attempted assault. across the country unruly airline passengers continue to cause major disturbances in air travel. nbc news political reporter vaughn hilliard has the story for us. >> unruly passengers shutting down airports. this one was taped to her seat on a flight to charlotte. she attempted to open the boarding door, and she bite a flight attendant. and one man saying he had a bomb in his luggage after an argument with a ticket counter employee. the number of faa investigations already three times more than a normal year. the faa releasing a zero tolerance psa.
>> tsa resuming self defense classes. >> packed planes and resistance to mask mandates inflaming the stresses of air travel. they are hoping the mandates will ensue. >> the current government order will expire and fingers crossed my guess is it will expire on september 13th. >> the masks are important, but it is not really the under lying cause. any flight attendant out there working know there's is something much bigger going on here. there is just a general aggression. >> american and southwest airlines stopping alcohol service and the faa handing out masks and fines from $7500 to $52,000. vaughn hilliard with that report. >> now to what may be the future of work.
what it may look like. two four day workweeks in iceland have been called an over overwhelming success. i'm laughing because tj has two-day workweeks and he says -- >> alex barely comes to work. >> representing 1% of the working population, many of the working hours reduced from 40 hours a week to 35 hours a week without a reduction in pay. they suggest that they work more efficiently with no overall loss of productivity or quality of service provided. there was also a improvement in worker well-being with stress and burnout lowering in many cases. after the completion of the trial, 86% of iceland's
workforce is working less hours and on the way to implementing a shorter workweek and mika, tj is going to the passport office today. he is going -- >> he works only three days a week and -- >> wait, that right, it would be worse. "black widow" had the largest box office opening for a film since the beginning of the pandemic. disney said the scarlet johansson film made $250 million on the opening week. overall they made $80 million in the domestic box office. $78 million internationally, and $60 million from two million households on disney plus.
that is a success. >> a huge success. a great character in the marvel universe. are you a fan? >> the answer is not yet but about to be. my kids have been young for marvel by my older is about to turn ten and he would like to start the series. we have not done avengers yet. but that is about to start, so joe, question have this conversation next summer andville a lot more to ad. >> okay, start with iron man, then go to captain america, keep moving through. if you are a fan, have you seen the new loki series on disney plus. it's pretty incredible. >> i just don't get it. >> i know you don't, but this loki thing, the final episode is coming up and it may be --
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unfortunately this was an election where the person that counts the votes was far more important than the candidate, no matter how many votes that candidate got, we got record numbers of votes. it is a disgrace to our nation and we are truly being scorned and disrespected around the world. never forget the radical left is not the majority in this country. we are the majority and it is not even close. >> and just for those who actually would be stupid enough to believe that, also never forget that rudy giuliani himself said in federal court there was no widespread voter fraud, william barr, the president's attorney general, called it bs. trump appointed supreme court
justices said there was no widespread voter fraud, federal judges appointed by donald trump in pennsylvania and america said there was no widespread voter fraud. let's just face it. you really, really have to be dumb or purposely ignorant to believe anything you just saw, that that president, that former president just said. >> former president trump at the conservative political action conference yesterday, continuing to spread the big lie that voter fraud cost him the election. now we're getting an inside look how chaotic the white house was before, during, and after an election that trump still refuses to admit that he lost. joining us, senior white house reporter for "the wall street journal," michael c bender, author of the book "frankly, we
did bin the election, this election." the inside story how trump lost. >> michael, thank you so much for being with us. how far was donald trump willing to push things behind the scenes to overturn the will of 80 million plus voters? >> he was willing to go as far as he needed to and do and say whatever he needed to keep himself in the white house and his hold on power. i think that's what the book lays out here, not just the chaos. we knew how chaotic the administration was, how chaotic this president was. what i was struck in reporting of the book, i tried to layout methodical here, how dangerous people closest to trump thought he was for the country. >> there are a couple of things that made news. in the book, you account a blow up between president trump and his vice president. quote, the most heated discussion pence had with trump
as of may of 2018 when news broke that pence's super pac was hiring lewandowski. trump had give pence the silent treatment. trump flung the article at the vice president. felt like his team was aban danning him in the midst of the russian prone. on the way to the white house, so disloyal he said, pence had had enough. he hired lewandowski as favor to jared who earlier asked pence for help finding a job for the former campaign manager who few in the white house trusted. as he prepared to hire brad for the re-election bid. pence walked in at the time of lunch with trump. pence picked up the article, threw it back. pointed a few fingers from his chest. we walked through every detail of this, pence snarled.
we did this as a favor to you. and this is how you respond? you need to get your facts straight. the former president denied the story, said no such fight ever happened. talk about how you bring up the story but you suggest this is the only time pence ever really stood up to donald trump and was ill prepared for chaos that led up to january 6. >> that's right. i used this as an example of the type of thing people around pence urged him to do, that they needed another get the facts straight moment, pence needed to be clear. people around him needed to be clear about what needed to happen january 6. pence's people believe he was very clear in meetings. trump told me pence never told him no, and you mention trump denied this story. he is singling out this book
because he knows how many people i have spoken to and people who don't normally speak to journalists. this story, this is the most loyal lieutenant in the trump administration, anecdote that happened several years ago that hasn't come out until now. there's more where that came from inside the book. >> michael bender, congrats. i ordered my copy. one of the stories out there, one of the defining days of the trump administration was june 1st, lafayette square, when he cleared the park of protesters after the george floyd killing. we saw eruptions of violence across the country. you report that he told general milly that he wanted to use the military to crackdown on them, say they should shoot the protesters. tell us more about that moment and what it means in terms of bigger picture, how trump was
using the leverage of government and the united states military to advantage him politically, keep a hold on power. >> this is one of several examples of people talking to me because they wanted to explain how dangerous they thought trump was behind the scenes, and just for -- his advisers wanted to put national guards on troops to take care of protests. these are folks trained to handle protests. the people that trump wanted to put on the streets are uniform military. the difference is those people are trained to kill and take land. it would have been a very dangerous situation. it is one of the most striking scenes. general milley, top general in the country, in the oval office with dozens of aides around him pointing to the portrait of abraham lincoln hanging over trump's shoulder, says that guy, mr. president, had an insurrection.
what we have is a protest. >> michael, another part of the book that's made news has been when the president was talking to then chief of staff, general kelly, on the way to normandy, talking about good things hitler had done. give us context to that headline. >> that's in a portion of the book that talks about some of the george floyd protests. what was striking was that people inside the administration and around trump, they didn't think he was a racist, in the textbook definition. they thought what was missing was understanding of history, not just black history but as this anecdote shows white history as well. he was focused mostly on his own political fortunes and that was how he made decisions. >> all right. the new book is entitled "frankly we did win this
election." the inside story how trump lost. thank you. joe, just these anecdotes, but even more so, what's happening now with trump and with those still in office that can't seem to quit him, can't seem to go against his undemocratic ways, this seems to be a fault line in our democracy at this point or potentially one. >> well, i mean, as michael was talking about, there was ignorance in donald trump, something we always said, he didn't know history and the constitution, it was willful ignorance, now there's willful ignorance of his followers, they can go on google and see so many of the lies he is spitting out there, blaming the radical left. it is actually a lot of republican officials, a lot of republican election officials, a lot of republican appointed judges that made those decisions. it wasn't the, quote, radical
left. it was radical trumpists who again are willfully ignorant now and just don't want to know the truth because it is inconvenient to them to believe that their man got beaten by joe biden. something donald trump still can't come to terms with. >> that does it for us. stephanie ruhle picks up coverage right now. hi there. i am stephanie ruhle. it is monday, july 12th. great to be back this morning as we have a lot to cover. the commander of u.s. and nato forces in afghanistan is officially stepping down. we go live to kabul for the latest. in washington, president biden will address rising gun violence taking place when he meets with a group of law enforcement officials and local government leaders, including new york city mayoral candidate